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Noise, action and insanity claims in the first game led to an overwhelming town victory. What better alternative do you suggest? A hardline stance against claims providing a tracking system for the town seems a little anti-town to me.Adel wrote:I'm not claiming day 2."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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The only reasons I have seen associated with a vote on dramonic, and I may have missed one, are ones of the basis that he is a big fan of being a 3rd party, was one in the last game, and would most likely try to be one in this game. I would gladly support his lynch if it was based on evidence of him being scum. I have not seen any of that offered up yet, feel free.elvis_knits wrote: I think the point is that dram either rolled cult -or- he rolled investigator who will choose to become a murderer. Why are you not thinking about the scenario where dramonic rolled cultist?"SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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I find ani's action stupid more than scummy. Scum wouldn't be willing to give up their ability to contribute to a mislynch.elvis_knits wrote:
(viii) Avolition - For three Days, your vote no longer contributes to a lynch. Your vote still shows up in vote counts.animorpherv1 wrote:I heard no noise, did not use ward.
Also, I decided to Launder myself, and I chose Avolition because I essentially, over the period of the game, seem really scummy in every game I play, as well as I always seem to find townies scummy. By day 4, I should have some info to make an informed decision.
You chose to give yourself an insanity?
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I believe Sajin just nailed a slip right on the head!Sajin wrote:
The only way you CAN'T go murderer is if you are a cultist. Do you agree?dramonic wrote:oh come on.
I think you are trying to consider me overpredictable. You are in the game sajin, I'm not stupid, I know I CAN'T go murderer even if I wish I could =_=
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Stalk is the only thing that ani could be covering up. That means ani is one of the following.iLord wrote:@Slysly: Okay, so then what action could Ani possibly be covering up?
1. Idiot (most likely)
2. Planning to become murderer and trying to cover it up with #1.
3. Warded someone and is lying about it.
If he is covering up a future insanity, that could be validated if someone has Occult Books and used them on Ani.
I can see that as a reasonable interpretation. My vote will likely move soon if one player in particular continues to avoid questions.Seacore wrote: I don't believe what he just said was a slip, he's simply saying that Sajin would catch him the moment he went bad."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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No, N1. If the OB user has 0 insanity, as should be the case right now, and Ani is lying, the results would be negative as Ani would have 0 insanity as well.iLord wrote:
On Night 0?SlySly wrote:If he is covering up a future insanity, that could be validated if someone has Occult Books and used them on Ani.
The rules, Commune description wrote: Effect: You learn whether your target has (strictly) morethan you.Insanities"SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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As I stated before, I would rather lynch scum than a later potential murderer. Ani is not a murderer yet and may not become one. Ani voters, start scum hunting.animorpherv1 wrote:I give up. I stalked Adel.
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Adel is a good player -> What if he's cult -> If he is we're all screwed."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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You speak like you have a list of the scum players in this game. It is hard for Investigators to make such bold assumptions.Adel wrote: 2. they have players from the last Sars game
I believe he didn't Launder and that he stalked.iLord wrote: You believe him?
If Adel gets killed and flips scum, why kill Ani? It takes 2 murders to be forced to become a murderer. All investigators, in a sense, have a 1 time free pass Vig. It just cost a night and an insanity to do it.Chaco wrote: Obviously, yeah. Laundering would be stupid. So, if Adel gets killed, kill Ani? But for today leave him alone?"SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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I think you are scum that is running scared because Ani has a bullseye on your back. IMO, you have been anti-town so far during this game.Adel wrote: I believe that it is essential to lynch ani at this point. Riculaulsly anti-town play requires dicipline and punishment by lynch.
Proving his insanity is now pointless. He stalked you. There is no reason to doubt his honesty about his insanity choice. From my view he is obvInvestigator that chose to stalk. It is better to try and lynch scum than to lynch those who are investigators. No way around it.Adel wrote: Giving people a pass for being "too scummy to be scum" isn't going to help us win.
He can'tprovethat he can't hammer, so his claim is not verifiable.
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Follow along...Adel wrote: prove to us that you are sincere about this.
How did you arrive at that opinion?
Which posts influenced your opinion?
What makes me more antitown than other players?
Why do you think that I shopuld be lynched?
What exactly about my play has been anti-town?
Prerefusal to help the town going forward. Anti-town.SlySly wrote:
Noise, action and insanity claims in the first game led to an overwhelming town victory. What better alternative do you suggest? A hardline stance against claims providing a tracking system for the town seems a little anti-town to me.Adel wrote:I'm not claiming day 2.
Avoiding my question, Anti-town. Given, youmuchlater answered a similar question.
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Show me where it is obvious that players from the first game are scum in this game. It's not. Mere speculation. I was in the first game and I am not scum. I'm not saying there are no players from the first game on the scum team in this one, but I don't see how you can say it is obvious that is the case in this game. Nothing more than an assumption on your part, or you have inside information because you are scum.Adel wrote: Obviously, a person who played in the first game is cult in this game, and they decided to go with the full claims pronto.
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Wagon jump on obvTown player. Anti-town.Adel wrote:animorpherv1 wrote:I give up. I stalked Adel.
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Adel is a good player -> What if he's cult -> If he is we're all screwed.vote:animorpherv1
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Same assumption as before, see above.Adel wrote: 2. they have players from the last Sars game
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Panic at realization there is target on your back so you push to eliminate and obvTown player. Anti-town.Adel wrote: I believe that it is essential to lynch ani at this point.
Try to discredit obvTown player by bringing up a useless point. Anti-town.Adel wrote: He can'tprovethat he can't hammer, so his claim is not verifiable.
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Repeated panic and move for lynch of obvTown player for self-preservation reasoning. Anti-town.Adel wrote: I'm for lynching him quickly and moving on to night before this spam fest leaves us with 75 pages of nosie.
Repeated prerefusal to help the town going forward. Anti-town.Adel wrote: I'm still not going to claim anythign on day 2."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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He can be checked with Occult Books. If he has no insanity, he is lying scum. If he does, he is either idiot town or stalker town. Town = worse lynch than scum. Pushing for town instead of scum hunting = proScum. I think he has an insanity NOW and was just trying to explain it off. I am more than willing to believe he stalked.Nicodemus wrote:I'm not quite sure where you get the certainty to make such bold statements. How do weknowthat Ani isn't cult fake-claiming an insanity so that he can kill in the ritual tonight? How are you so sure that Ani is telling the truth about his insanity this time, as opposed to another lie? I am far from convinced that Ani is "obvInvestigator" as you say.
I think it is silly to lynch obvtown player when there is scum to lynch.Nicodemus wrote: In other news, I think it's silly to lynch anyone other than Ani today."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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Exactly, I'm sure you do, scum.Adel wrote:
or I know something that you don't.Show me where it is obvious that players from the first game are scum in this game. It's not. Mere speculation. I was in the first game and I am not scum. I'm not saying there are no players from the first game on the scum team in this one, but I don't see how you can say it is obvious that is the case in this game. Nothing more than an assumption on your part, or you have inside information because you are scum."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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If you were warded and he stalked you and his stalk failed, why would he be trying to cover up an insanity? He wouldn't because he wouldn't have one. If it is because he is scum and trying to cover up a future insanity, which I find highly unlikely, that can be checked with Occult Books.Adel wrote:
even though I was warded by another player? really?SlySly wrote: He can be checked with Occult Books. If he has no insanity, he is lying scum. If he does, he is either idiot town or stalker town. Town = worse lynch than scum. Pushing for town instead of scum hunting = proScum. I think he has an insanity NOW and was just trying to explain it off. I am more than willing to believe he stalked."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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Well, I am glad I am outed as town.Adel wrote: now that you've outed yourself are you trying to play stupid so that we'll give you a pass for being a VI? That isn't going to happen, so please just stop it.
He has an insanity. I don't really see why scum would at this point.Adel wrote: If he really did stalk me then hewould not claim an insanity-- but he did.
Why do you think that he is Obvtown?"SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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More of a blanket statement, in this game, I would think it be equally important for scum and town to read everything as there is so much going on. In a regular game, scum can float along when their tactics are working without having to pay attention to every detail of the thread.Iecerint wrote:
Hmm? Really? Why? Not that I'm not somewhat receptive to Adelscum.SlySly wrote:Scum never have to read as close as town. I already caught on."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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That game was pretty much a perfect run for the town. I have not reread the game since it was over, so I don't know exactly what you are referring to, nor am I going to go back and dig for it. But I know that the ongoing information gathering by all the claims throughout the game lead to an overwhelming town victory. It was not just the lynch of two people.Adel wrote: as I see it the policy based deaths of zwet and mastin led to an overwhelming town victory.
I think he is obvTown and I think it is much better to look for scum to lynch.Adel wrote: why are you against an ani lynch?
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I see that as the only logical explanation for his actions.Adel wrote:
why do you think that he has an insanity? He claimed that he did, why do you believe him?SlySly wrote: He has an insanity. I don't really see why scum would at this point."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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Just calling it like I see it. Only other people besides Adel who have registered on my scumdar are the possible Dramonic slip, Elliberth, and DGB. DGB only because of inactivity. I'm sure she will resurface soon and alleviate my concern of the lurk in classic DGB fashion.Seacore wrote:I agree Sly, I don't like this blatant example of smear."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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Sorry dude, I replaced into that game late, as you probably know since you have obviously read it more recently than I. I do not have total recall of that game at all. I do know that the claims were helpful for the town in the part of the game I played.Adel wrote: sure dude, day 2 opened with 3/5 of the cult dead, and all of you are geniuses for winning. Congrats on your amazing systemthat the reviewers and game designer obviously weren't aware of and wouldn't have adjusted for in the design of this game.
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If you say so, only a cult player would know what has been coached so far. I'll take your word for it.Adel wrote:The cult players who were in the first game obviously know the favored tactic from the first game and have coached their team to roll with it
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Severe reach with severe OMGUS.Adel wrote: the real story: SlySly is cult, and either is defending his buddy, or defending someone he knos is not cult.
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I explained it plenty well. And, I was right. Once he revealed he had stalked, obviousness struck that he was obvTown trying to cover his insanity with a bogus Launder claim. It was pretty clear before that that he wasn't cult, you just weren't willing to accept it openly. Not surprising, though. Why would scum want to derail a strong mislynch wagon?Adel wrote: bullshit, you gave no reason for thinking so! All you offered is scummy circular nonsense!"SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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QFTSajin wrote: @Phayte- I actually have zero problem with ani taking other actions that cause insanities as long as he robs the lynch grave every day+ others if needed. Do you have a problem with him vigging one time? I guess that would be the only other useful action he could take that would cause insanity gain. Point stands though."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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Adel wrote:So is Ani fully cleared, or are we worried about another wannabe murderer with an Avolition insanity being on the wagon trying to spread chaos?
For 100% verification we could clear the wagon and get the other 12 players to vote for Ani along with Ani."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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Yes, I will be happy if Adel gets vig'd and flips scum but I also remember in the other game that there were times where we needed more than one person robbing graves for accountability. I'm fine with ani choosing to vig Adel because he believes he is scum, as I do, and I am also fine with him only robbing graves tonight. I suspect some more questionable players will arise that we will want robbing graves in the nights ahead. I would prefer Adel get lynched, flip scum and ani's vig ability is nullified, period.Seacore wrote: Um, he can only vig after a successful stalk. So the only person he can vig is Adel, which is why Sly is so happy about it. Unless he stalks somebody else and then Vigs.
@Adel: I don't have an alt. Yes, I still believe you are scum."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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I know it is hard for you to accept being wrong, so why do you write a script and save the rest of us the wasted time and effort?Adel wrote: If we wanted to be really meticulous about it we could cycle through every 12 player permutation."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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Dude, get a grip. Some of us want to play the game that Percy worked so hard to setup and run for us. If this was my game and you offered this up, you would either be replaced immediately or modkilled. You are the type of player that ruins games for everyone, mod included. I know you think you are smarter than the rest of us, but some of us don't care and want to have fun in a cool game."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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I think you are arrogant enough to suggest a plan that you think will break the game, scum or not, that you think will make you look more brilliant at the end of the game where you can pat yourself on the back. Your suggestion has not changed what I think of you, in game.Adel wrote:
do you still think that I am scum?SlySly wrote:EBWOP:
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Phate,Phate wrote: A note on SlySly's behavior: in my only other interaction with him (can't specify as game is ongoing), he has shown himself to be extremely in favor of 'playing to the spirit of the game', which he appears to define as not cooperating with the town except to vote, discuss, and lynch. The comments he's made about me having a massclaim fetish and appointing myself town leader may tie in with this.
I think it's more likely he's scum who's trying to provoke me into replacing out and opposing concerted plans in order to win, but the possibility exists that he is simply as incompetent a player as he is a mod.
1. I was invited to this game. I can't speak for him, but I seriously doubt that Percy is really thrilled with what is going on in the game right now. His first game of this was great and fun and I am sure he was hoping for the same in this game.
2. a)In my game, you tried to break it right off the bat. b)Read your tag. c)In the queue of this game you were already calling for massclaim. You do have a mass claim fetish!
3. I want to play the game in the spirit that Percy had in mind when he created it. I seriously doubt that what is happening right now is not how he envisioned it.
4. I am not trying to get you to replace out. Honestly, it would be much more satisfying to see you get vig'd.
5. I will point out your competence as a player at the completion of my game for any who want a good chuckle."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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Yes. He tried something but it failed miserably. That doesn't make him irrational.iLord wrote: Personal question, here. Would you consider Ani rational?
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No one vig'd N0. Ani stalked, big difference. Ani is town.dramonic wrote: Who vigs night 0, seriously?
Better yet, why is he being unvoted?"SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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I think so, but I could be wrong. My predecessor had chosen Psychopathy, which no one in this game has yet, but Percy allowed me to change that choice when I replaced in. I don't remember though exactly where the game was when I came in.dramonic wrote:n0?"SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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Technically, but do you really think it is now in the best interests of ani to go murderer? Ani's best chance for a win is definitely to stay investigator, he knows it, I know it, you know it, and everyone else knows it. His every step in this game will be tracked and he will be dealt with swiftly upon murderous deviations.dramonic wrote:well if he picked psychopathy he WANTED to be a murderer, so my point stands"SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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Ellibereth wrote:I'm confused about something.
Ani Stalked Adel, it failed, then it went through.
VP Warded Adel.
Noone warded VP.
I don't get it.
Here is my interpretation of this.Percy wrote:I will confirm that there was an error in the Night 0 Result PM I sent to animorpherv1. It has since been corrected.
If Alice wards Bob, and Charlie wards Alice, then Charlie's ward causes Alice's ward to fail. Alice will be warded, but Bob will not be warded.
Assuming that VP really did ward Adel, someone DID ward VP and just hasn't came forward and that is why VP's ward failed and Ani's stalk was successful."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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Have you heard of Occum's Razor? You have been spending too much time around Adel with your tinfoil hat on. When something is blatantly obvious, accept it and move on.Ellibereth wrote:Only one person that said they did ward, but haven't said whether they wared VP or not, left."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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It is obvious something like this did take place. The magic 8 ball says, "All signs point to Yes". Very similar to the debate I had with Adel. All signs pointed to Yes there too and low and behold, the answer was Yes, much to Adel's chagrin.VP Baltar wrote: Assuming something like this took place is unnecessary."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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Very interesting. I have not looked at it from that perspective. Must evaluate.dramonic wrote: You know what I think? I think Ani laundered night 0 to "confirm" not cult. I think it was planned all along, I think Adel and Ani are cult together and the former tried to insure a cult win with a fake setup break."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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Adel's and Phate's obsession with game breaking has moved them into an arrognat belief that rules do not apply to them.
It is blatantly obvious that they were discussing this game here and giving the rules and the mods of this game and this site the big middle finger.The Rules wrote: Do not discuss this game with other players outside this thread. The only exception to this rule are the Cultists, who may post in their QuickTopic thread.
A swift modkill of both of them should take place. Rules are in place for a reason and all players should be expected to follow them."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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Sorry, I really hate game ruining, game breakers. There is no doubt they were discussing this game, and possibly one more ongoing game(at least in Phate's case, which you are full aware of Iecerint).Iecerint wrote:SlySly is almost certainly scum if the two modkills he just requested are town. For one, that (= what SlySly just did) is a very dastardly thing to do. Second, there is no indication that either party was discussing this game per se until Vi transparently indicated as much. If anyone is violating the spirit of that rule, it is the party who inappropriately contextualized the conversation IMO."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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If it was so abstract, as it was trying to be suggested in that thread, the thread wouldn't be locked. There were subtle specifics in that thread. They know it, I know it, and the mods of this game know it too. I'm sure if you go read the whole thread, you will know it too. You might be a little more upset if a game you were running was being discussed in such a way before its completion. Rules apply to the self perceived elite on this site too."SlySly is the scummiest player on the site." ~DrippingGoofball-
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