Star Wars Mafia (Game Over)

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Vote Farside

Because my son is cuter then hers

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<snip>I'm a man of my word.

Annnndddd now i must go watch Dark Knight.

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Bow Down In Wonder!!!!! He turned two on Wed. and this pic was taken about 4 months ago, i haven't uploaded anything recent.

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I always thought this video was kinda funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omB18oRsBYg

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unvote, vote WreckStar

The felix the cat avatar compels me!

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I think out of the 1-3 Darth Maul was my only fav in that trilogy. I hated Jar Jar with a passion, laughed when Samuel's char got lightninged out the windo, and groaned in agony every time anikan's char tried to act.

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i don't think there is such a thing as a pointless RVS wagon, sometimes good info can be found there.

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Reck posts many loud posts that are unnecessary, it's kind of his charm.

And I like two-headed cyclops, he reminds me of C3PO, talking gibberish mostly to himself and R2D2.

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KillaSeven's posting reminds me of another players in an on going game.

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Dunno about the kyle99 part since i don't think i have played enough with him to know him well enough, but who the hell would make a hydra with Suave? That's signing your insta-lynch death warrant

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Cheese and rice will my friggen post not go to a "problem loading page"????? ><

Let's try again..

@Farside
No reason, just felt like moving my vote at the time and the Wreck wagon was just were i ended up. Had more votes gone their way i would have unvoted since I don't see anything scummy from them.

@CMAR
No i wasn't talking about you in my comment about k7, was talking about a different ongoing game.

Well for the reason to unvote, see the post itself. My only reason to vote Dana was to get him posting, which he did although his post didn't add much. About not voting, I didn't see the point. I believe twoheadedcyclops had no votes at that time (might have been wrong here, didn't count) so a FOS would seem to have the equal effect as a simple vote.

Also, I don't think its time to "vote" yet. (As in trying to seriously getting people lynched or to L-1/L-2) There are plenty of votes already (mostly on K 7 and Wreckstar) and those guys started talking. At first I thought it was scummy not to take part in the RVS stage, but apparantly, also according to you, its very normal for K-7. Since we got that cleared out, I was surprised to see twoheadedcyclops join the K-7 bandwagon right after, which I described as "late". About Wreckstar's bandwagon, I also commented that it seems mostly random or based on disliking him.

I could simply vote for him now, since he'd be a considerable alternative now. (3 votes if I include mine? Sorry, its late so I fail at counting) However, I obviously wouldn't call for a lynch yet. Or will it be scummy now that I vote after being pressured into voting? Guess I'll find out soon enough.

This caught my eye.
1)Voted to get dana posting, but even though he says dana's post wasn't much, he isn't going to keep pressuring dana, just gonna leave it be.
2)Doesn't think it's "time to vote yet" but at the end of his post votes anyways
3)because another person said it was normal for k7 to not vote in RVS FC drops his case or investigation, whatever you want to call it, against k7
4)THC is a "considerable alternative" more or less to me means "people think he is scummy so that's where i am going" and so even though he won't call for a THC lynch, he is going to vote him anyways since he will be the third vote against him.

unvote, vote FC

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FINALLY

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1 He voted and there were no serious/well based bandwagons so far so I didn't expect a well based vote. His activity is lacking compared to other's but he did post. If you want more of him, feel free to pressure him yourself.

If you didn't expect a well based vote why bother voting him at all?

2 Yes, my vote had other reasons. 1, I was asked to vote because it seemed scummy to withhold a vote, so I picked the best alternative there was according to myself. 2, I did and do not expect that this vote will lead to a lynch, but if Wreckstar or K-7 would get on 7 or 8, the odds might go up.

So you voted because if you didn't it would seem scummy? I find scum are more worried about what people think about their actions. Why would THC have to be the best alternative? Because he had votes against himself? You could have looked at the other players and found someone else

you

thought was scummy, but instead you went where other votes and suspicions were.

3 Yep, I'm new to this site so I don't know any of you or how you all play. Since no one bothered to argue against semioldguy, I assume he was right. Also considering no one voted for K-7 afterwards except twoheaded, I think he was right as well.

You are new to this site, but not mafia if i remember correctly from your posts in the Queue, and when semi-old guy voted you and started asking you questions you "believed him" about K7 and now have gone towards THC.

4 I'm not convinced twoheadedcyclops is scum, but I do consider him more likely to be scum right now. Why? See my earlier post(s) about him and also because I think both alternative bandwagons aren't well founded as I've said a few times before. K-7 for not partaking in discussions apparantly and Wreckstar for personal reasons. I think the bandwagons on these guys will lead to nothing unless some new facts about these guys come up, so I do think it would be wise to change to focus to other people.

as far as i see this is the only real time you mention anything against THC:

<snip>FOS: Twoheadedcyclops for joining the K7 bandwagon this late.

Because he joined a bandwagon late. And how can you think that a bandwagon against someone who is not taking part in discussions (which is what you say about K-7) will lead to nothing?

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@Bv310

Instead of pointless one liners how about some actual posting?

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wouldn't that be a hell of a game, star wars vs star trek mafia!!

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Get what point across? That you are still not posting anything but one liners? That you aren't trying to scum hunt at all?

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please dont kill THC, posting from work, will post later.

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@Kast

yes I am claiming mason with THC, i really didn't want it to come to this, i was hoping my first breadcrumb of who i am would stick on post 37, but decided to give it one more push with calling THC 3CPO, which i thought you picked up on Kast because you started calling him that, apparently I was wrong. The only reason I even felt the need to come out and claim it was because of the threat to kill him in less then three hours. THC also breadcrumbed on his third post:

M

aybe I should have announced it earlier that I am a hydra.

A

lthough, it's kind of obvious with the name two headed cyclops.

S

orry, if it bothers anyone.

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n the otherhand, I don't really care anyway haha.

N

ow we can proceed on with the quicklynch of the inferior hydra.

Bolding mine.

I also don't think it was a great idea on your part Kast to claim daykill vig, but that was your decision.

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The mod will remove the posts FC. Also as a mason we cannot recruit anyone to be a mason with us, it's just myself and THC, you might be thinking of a cult recruiter.

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And what do you think about the claim WreckStar? Do you think I am scum as well claiming mason with THC?

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@Scott

So you have nothing to say about anything in the game so far? All you have posted is your RVS vote (that is still there), talked about darth maul, episode 1 being just for a racing game, you will catch up, and then asking about why people are claiming.

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Though WreckStar missed the mason claim, i don't think they are scum for it THC. Hell as it is I am about to vote for BV310, but maybe his lurking ass can be vigged.

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This is w.r.t Wolf's role name. Do you agree with the claim for info on additional abilities of THC, Wolf?

I'm sorry i must have missed something/my head not on straight. What are you asking?

@Kast
And here I thought if Han Solo was going to be anything in this game it would have been a bus driver or commuter, shows how much ya can't out guess a mod. As for the shooting I'm reading neutral on HP so if you feel there is something there then go for it.

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SO are you trying to say he is scum reaper?

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^^This

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Looking at this whole mess I don't see how Lando would be both bullet proof and a one shot cop, hell i don't see how he could be bulletproof. His continued refusal to do much of anything is what is making me feel he is hiding something.

unvote, vote HP

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It wasn't so much JUST the flavor that didn't fit WreckStar, it was also as i said in the last line

his continued refusal to do much of anything

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Well first:

Something is telling me that this is a ploy to get us to kill a townie. This is ridiculous, let's try to ignore this for now since I doubt 8 people would vote farside without getting anything out of it.

I don't really like this post much. Now nothing against farside, but I don't know why CMAR just straight calls her a townie. Farside's not pining my scumdar but i wouldn't just call her a townie just yet. This post feels more like CMAR trying to appear too townie (if that makes sense).

Second:
@BV310
Specific posts please to back up your vote.

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Nice attitude CMAR, and Farside is a she.


@Slicey
Here is my post on why i voted hp

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Well first:

Something is telling me that this is a ploy to get us to kill a townie. This is ridiculous, let's try to ignore this for now since I doubt 8 people would vote farside without getting anything out of it.

I don't really like this post much. Now nothing against farside, but I don't know why CMAR just straight calls her a townie. Farside's not pining my scumdar but i wouldn't just call her a townie just yet. This post feels more like CMAR trying to appear too townie (if that makes sense).

Second:
@BV310
Specific posts please to back up your vote.

I hardcore LOL at this due to your most recent post in a different game that I'm not in and I just wondered upon.

ok. point being?

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There is actually a big difference in what I said there and what you said here, however I don't wish to discuss this any further, I'm never 100% clear on the talking outside thread rules and don't wish to break it somehow out of ignorance.

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I agree about the jabba the hut comment, however with two kills last night I am guessing that might mean its jabba's group vs empire vs alliance, but that remains to be seen. If it is that way Jabba could have bountied Farside because she can be a strong player both as scum and town, so Jabba is trying to get rid of farside by offering an item.

Let's also not forget that IF there is more then one person in jabba's group (like bobba fet) then they can hammer and get said item and use it, so extra incentive for them.

All speculation though, won't know till someone flips differently.

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Oi i got my chars mixed up, Greedo i mean, my fault there.

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Also Boba was a neutral survivor, i don't think he was apart of the possible Jabba group at all, but again, I am not sure.

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Well by looking at the star wars wikki I would say this line stands out:
"The Hutt put his trust in no one other than his Nimbanese accountant Mosep Binneed and Ephant Mon, whom he made Chief of Security of his palace. "

So i would guess either of those two, maybe possibly even both, because I think if i am reading this right Greedo was not actually under the employment of jabba, he was just a bounty hunter who took up the bounty on Han.

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In fact, to go along with the speculation, if it is a Jabba group, and if it is Ephant Mon that is apart of said group, with him being chief of security i could almost see that as being a scum rolecop.

But either way this isn't helping us much. We need more posters.

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@Slicey

Claims that are out so far:
Kast - Han Solo town day vig
Me- Mason R2D2 with TwoHeadedCyclops

@Farside
In Kingdom Hearts Mafia there were two scum groups, and a vig (though limited shots) and an SK, though i think that had 4 more people playing, so when I saw the neutral survivor dead to me that takes care of the SK slot, and when i saw the bounty on you that made me think Jabba and I can see him having his own group, along with the empire, against the alliance.

Whoever I won't know for sure until a flip on someone tells me otherwise.

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vote bv310

I don't like his little toss out there vote with no real explanation.

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@CMAR

If it drives you crazy figuring out which alignment Dana can be in a game why did you not investigate her? I realize you said Farside was neutral but there wasn't anyone else that stood out to you to try to investigate?

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Man you really get your dandruff up when questioned don't you?

I don't care what theFonz posted, I am asking

you

why you didn't investigate someone you have a hard time telling the difference of whether or not they are town.

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Not as The Chancellor he wasn't.

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Just because The Chancellor wasn't in ep 4-6 as The Chancellor doesn't mean there isn't and Godfather possible flavor type role.

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Well I am sure The Chancellor wouldn't be a GF, Emporer yes. Even so they would have a safe claim, to claim Chancellor would more then likely be an immediate lynch.

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@Farside

Only reason I am questioning CMAR is because twice now when I ask him something he gets really upset and snotty, and I am trying to figure out if I really do believe him or if he is scum trying to clear himself. Had I an investigation role I would have investigated the person i have the hardest time reading, which to me his hardest player is Dana, but that was his choice. If i truely didn't believe him right now I would vote him.

right now though we have a lot of non posters and I really do not like bv310 lurking his ass off since his vote against WreckStar.

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I know myself to be town so I don't see a scum modivation for making a claim that early. Do you?

Not off the top of my head, yet that doesn't mean a possible scum wouldn't do it, one can never say exactly what someone else will/won't do as scum. Like I said I am not completely sure of him being scum, I only think it be a slight possibility to watch out for, hence my questions.

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@SOG

I must not have seen you ask me your question but the answer is yes we were confirmed alignment together.

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Farside or Wolf: Did you notice my breadcrumbing?

No, but I'm terrible at looking for things like that.

Same.

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@Farside

I'm looking back at it and really wondering about how he was asked to full claim. I wasn't looking for a full claim out right so much as asking questions to see if i believed CMAR at all. For those that just out right asked him to claim does seem a bit suspect to me. I do wish that CMAR had waited until he was put (if he was ever going to be put) at L-1, though I do understand his frustration better. I felt really frustrated myself when i had claimed as early as I did to save my mason partner from being shot, and thought i had done a good enough job with my crumbs to prevent it (how wrong i was )

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Posting in response to prod. And since you brought it up Farside, the "read" on Wreck is more of the "Guilty investigation" variety. Not sure why I didn't say it before.

Probably because you weren't posting at all, it's due to that that makes me have a hard time believing you, though on the flip side I don't know if you would do this as scum and out yourself so early.

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unvote

pre-emptive vote on WreckStar

But for now I think we could use:
A)More discussion
B)Wait on Kast to see if he can shoot the "cops" investigation.
and
C)We definitely need to stop having town PR's claim >< I know i started if but that was because I didn't want to see my partner shot ><

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pre-emptive vote on WreckStar

Not completely sure about your intention here, so I'm going to take the conservative route and say this vote doesn't count.

Yea it wasn't meant to be a true vote, and i probable used the wrong wording anyways.

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Holy shit, what the fuck is this nonsense? I take a few days off and bv310 conveniently pops back in with a guilty on me. Jesus H. Christ.

I guess we're being forced to claim since people are blindly believing this with no reason for flavor. I'm not sure what the fuck bv310 is smoking, but I'm certainly not evil.

I'm

Chewbacca

, Alliance Tracker

. Flavor talks about me being a former freighter pilot who was reluctantly convinced to join the rebel alliance, despite my desire to work independently from them, and I reluctantly joined. My ability is called "Homing Beacon", and it allows me to track one person each night.

Last night, I tracked SOG to THC. No bullshit. See my post here where I randomly target SOG after not mentioning him previously after D2 starts. Then here, when we place an FoS on SOG. I wasn't sure if he was a town PR who happened to visit the NK victim or not, and I thought by applying soft pressure he might slip up and reveal some connections, which I could use to town's advantage. But here we go with me being forced to claim.

Vote: SOG

unless he has a mighty convenient claim to explain why he visited THC last night.

@Town: seriously, just fucking trust me on this. I have no fucking clue why bv310 would get a guilty on me unless there's a redirect or some weird flavor shit going on, but let us lynch SOG today and you'll see how fucking right I am.

You gotta claim, SOG?

I cannot find anywhere in this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Chewbacca Saying that chewbacca was a former freighter pilot that reluctantly joined the alliance. I see that Chewbacca and Han were smugglers, which i believe is different, and that they helped the rebellion, heck chewbacca even helped out in the clone wars with the jedi (though i realize the clone wars has no bearing on this game). Also see nothing about wanting to work independently, nor do i buy that chewbacca has a "homing beacon" because I see nothing that states the Millenium Falcon (which Chewbacca was crew or co-pilot of) having one. I see here: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Homing_beacon that the empire has one, but nothing stating chewbacca or the Millenium has one.

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The situation as a whole has my head hurting. If you are telling the truth, then damn that's one more town PR out in the open, but one scum (SoG) exposed. Again if you are telling the truth then i could see a possible Bussing incident that made bv get a guilty on you that really should have been on the person in the bus with you, but that is hugely up for speculation.

I still don't like bv's claim but that might just be because I am not a fan of BV. Your attitude about this whole thing wreck makes me want to believe you are town and got framed somehow (or that bv is lying after all) and i am not really sure about SoG though obviously it depends on if you are telling the truth or not.

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@Mod I think you already have, but just in case i think there are a few players that need prods

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Well i was waiting for Kast to use his ability on WS, but if he has no shots left then lynching is just as fine.

vote WS

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Even though he flipped scum as bv310 said, I think WreckStar was telling the truth about who he tracked and where he went.

vote SoG

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Boo-yah! Called it, two scum groups with Jabba, and look, no bounty!

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The only thing is since you were wrong about RC (he was a GF after all) I wouldn't completely write off Scott just yet.

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I suspected the lynch victims in days 1 and two, but wasn't online in time to vote.

Oh did you now? Cuz I did an Iso and see no where you suspecting either of the lynch victims.

Aside from your anti-prod posts there isn't much to your posts, but here are ones that make me believe you are scum.

Here you said you didn't find WreckStar suspicious:

Hi, just read the game so far, and I don't really know what bandwagon to support right now.

K7 - seems very inactive, even with all the votes on him, and isn't really answering any question.

Wreck Star - seems to have nothing but RV and opportunity votes in his bandwagon. He responded against the people who voted him, and they crucified him. I don't see him as suspicious

THC - Here it smells a bit more scummy. He voted for Wreck Star claiming to get rid of the opposite hydra (that was WS' 3rd vote)(post 31), and they attacked each other in page 4. He unvoted WS when we felt pressured, and changed to the easiest target, K7 (post 95). I find that to be suspicious.

And here you basically admit to lurking:

I haven't posted much, but I have been following the game.

You wanted to lynch CMAR to confirm farside.

Well, looking at CMaR's claim, I think the best move as town would be to lynch him. If he turns up innocent, then we just lynched a (now vanilla) townie and confirmed farside as innocent. If he turns up guilty, then we have just lynched scum. What do you think?

You haven't contributed to anything, have lurked, lied about suspecting the lynches for the Day 1 and 2 (hell you even defended SOG), all in all are just plain scummy.

vote Toon Fighter

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mod i think we need a replacement for FC?

FC has been prodded.

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Kinda depends. Some ignore a VI, others lynch them or ask that if there is a vig in the game to kill them and get rid of the distraction, myself I treat them like any player, if i think they are scummy i don't care if they are VI, i will build a case and go after them, because there is just as good a chance they are IS (idiot scum).

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I kinda get the dana votes, but really my vote i think is best on TF, i just do not see anything town in this guy, and I hate VI talk because he could still just be silent scum.

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Huh, that's actually a very good point there kast, I missed that entirely.

Bv investigate TF though tonight please.

unvote, vote Dana

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Sorry all, work got me the past few days and I won't be able to give a good post here until Tuesday sometime.

mod if you feel like you need to replace me i understand but i will be back tuesday if that is ok

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Im here, sorry it's been a bad time for me getting with these games, F work is all i gotta say lOl.

I don't completely find dana's role claim truthful. So far every person we have been about to lynch has had a bad claim with flavor and each bad claim was a scum. Not once do i see him saying anything hint wise that he was a one shot bus driver, and he never questioned that i can see CMAR's claim that farside is innocent, which now she very well is up in the air because if he bussed THC and farside then CMAR's investigation was really on THC. The whole thing is just off putting.

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I'm here, will post up as soon as i get a chance from work. Sorry for my absence everyone, been a rough few weeks at work =/

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@Blaze

CMAR was a JOAT, he had an investigation role as one of the powers.

HoS Blaze

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Softclaims warrant more votes. Period. Claiming to have secret info about the lack of night kills warrants more votes.

Guess I just lost then. I was bluffing that. Guess I am done for.

Pfftt

vote BlazeRb

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I sent the mod a message asking about the force investigation, as soon as i get a reply i will let you all know.

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even though the mod answered for me, I still wanted to post and say that he was not able to answer my question.

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So sorry every one for my craptacular play these past few game days. No excuse for it, just my own fault for letting this game go.

can someone do me a favor and summarize the DP case for me? I will try to catch up on the game (especially if it goes into night phase during the next couple days) but a quick summary would be appreciated.

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well that day had gone by fast, but luckily scum was hit.

I agree Scott is a hard person to ISO and figure out, in a game i just got done modding a few weeks back with him in it he was town, and his posts were short and infrequent, and he was thought to be scum multiple times.

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No prod needed. Am willing to vote d3x, should have followed gut on dana and will do so with d3x. I don't believe vezo is the last scum but will look again at him. Not going to throw down my vote just yet though being as most people will be gone until monday anyways.