Star Wars Mafia (Game Over)

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[reck]

Vote: bv310

Pre-emptive lurking vote.

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Maybe I should have announced it earlier that I am a hydra. Although, it's kind of obvious with the name two headed cyclops. Sorry, if it bothers anyone. On the otherhand, I don't really care anyway haha. Now we can proceed on with the quicklynch of the inferior hydra.

Lynch, Lynch, Lynch!

Who are you a Hydra of, hmmm?

Maybe our hydra and your hydra should mate and create the first four person hydra. HUZZAH!

Best Star Wars spoof song EVER (with a cheesy music video to go with it): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 921667346#

That's not even the best Weird Al Star Wars Spoof Song Ever. This is.

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[Starbuck]

What's with the OMGUS, bv? You have 23 other people you could have chosen from. Why did you decide to OMGUS?


@TwoHeadedCyclops - Don't be jealous.

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[Reck]

Our wagon seems entirely like a RVS wagon with no basis behind it, which is fine, but I'd highly encourage bv310 to get his sorry ass in here and answer why he decided to OMGUS us. I'd also like to point out he said he was trying to get better with the lurking... and has since disappeared from the thread.

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[Reck]

I posted that yesterday and we're on Page 3.

Either way, I chose to OMGUS you because I was trying to make my point clear. Why are you so fixated on a single vote when there are 5 people voting for you? Just aiming for the easy target?

Aiming for the scummiest target on my wagon? Yes.

@Wreck Star: I think you are stretching things when you say that "he [bv] is trying to get better at lurking".

SWEET MISREP BRAH

If it's clearly an RVS wagon, then isn't the explanation that it was random?

It's clearly a RVS wagon in the fact that it's not a serious wagon, but bv's OMGUS and promise to not lurk this game is something worth talking about.

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@Wreck Star: I think you are stretching things when you say that "he [bv] is trying to get better at lurking".

Actually, that's exactly what he said

Actually actually, that's not what Wreck or BV said. But I made the same mistake reading it:

"I'm trying to get better"
"he said he was trying to get better with the lurking"

Which is meant to mean he's trying to get better at not lurking. A bit much for Wreck to call it a misrep.

I'm sorry, didn't realize we were allowing functionally retarded people to play this game. I called bv310 out for lurking in every game and voted him, and bv310 responded with an OMGUS vote and said "I'm trying to get better", which OBVIOUSLY IS IN REFERENCE TO THE LURKING.

JESUS TAPDANCING CHRIST, A HYDRA WITH TWO HEADS AND ZERO BRAINS.

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And that was Reck, in case that wasn't obvious enough.

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THH's scum strategy:

One of us can push bullshit cases on people, and then the other can come in and be like "Whaaaaat I didn't know my partner was doing that! ...BULLETPROOF."

If you're going to play as a hydra, work as a hydra, don't try to back out of your opinions just because you're two halves of a whole idiot.

PS, who IS in your hydra? I swear one of them has to be either MrSuave or kyle99.

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[Reck]

If we could get a

prod on bv310

, he could get in here and PROVE he was talking about not lurking. I mean, literally, no other interpretation makes sense. He even VOTED for me to prove how serious he was about it.

@farside22: I don't know of any other non-lurkers more than bv310...but it could be that he was just fresh in my mind due to an ongoing game.

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That Wreck contradicts himself

You're clearly delusional. By the way, this IS a Reck/Starbuck hydra. Only... Starbuck seems to have forgotten. >.>;

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Did your initial vote on bv310 not have basis or purpose? It seemed like it did

Is THIS how you think you've caught me in a contradictory statement? How are these two thoughts even related - I was talking about my wagon being random and not having any real weight behind it, and you're talking about my vote on bv310. HARDLY CONTRADICTORY. LRN2MAFIA


And... oh, wait... what's this?

Prod received. Good god people,

I meant that I was trying to get better about non-lurking

. Probably shouldn't have made that commitment before exam weeks, but that's the way she goes.

Anyway, I'm doing a quick catchup.

Aaaaand... checkmate

.

Unvote; Vote: TwoHeadedCyclops

FoS: Konowa

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[Reck]

player 1:I'm voting you before you start lurking
player 2:I'm trying to get better

What about that suggests anything OTHER than the lurking-in-question as the topic of conversation?

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[Starbuck]

Sorry guys, I've had a crazy work week so far.

So it seems that Reckoner has dug us into a hole. Thanks a lot, Will.

Hopefully, I can be the Calm Tuesday to his Manic Monday.

On bv310

Either way, I chose to OMGUS you because I was trying to make my point clear. Why are you so fixated on a single vote when there are 5 people voting for you? Just aiming for the easy target?

What point were you trying to make clear? It didn't seem to me like you had one in the first place.

I had asked you a question because I wanted to know why you thought OMGUS was a better way to go (gameplay wise) versus not OMGUSing. Please remember that was me asking that question and not Reck.

On Kast

Another game that I have to deal with your tl;dr posts! =P

However, a policy lynch on D1, especially one that's based on outside game meta, isn't going to help us find scum and is worse than random shooting.

Agreed.

Wreckstar wagon: Is there any reason behind this wagon?

This is what I was wondering. All I've really seen are a bunch of random votes.

It sounds like people are pushing a terrible case to discredit Reck.

Thank you.

On TwoHeadedCyclops

LoL at your FoS @ Kast in Post 66, this is what Kast does.

Voting me over this is just ridiculous WC. If the statements weren't ambiguous why did you wait for the clarification to vote me? Why is it scummy to misunderstand? Why did you react so strongly over a mere clarification? This seriously seems messed up to me and I will vote you for it if my partner agrees.

I don't find anything wrong with my/our vote on you.

You were one of the main people pressing this issue, and you backed off as soon as it was convenient for you to do so.

It's scummy to misunderstand when what was meant was being explained quite a few times over.

On Konowa

@Wreck Star: I think you are stretching things when you say that "he [bv] is trying to get better at lurking".

I have to agree with my counterpart here.

Konowa, have you ever played a game prior to this one with bv? If you haven't, then you really won't understand this.

On farside22

Wreck Star: why did you vote bv310 for lurking over other known lurkers?

I can't answer this question because I wasn't the one who placed the RVS vote. I know that both Reck and I have a disdain for bv's lurkiness.

On ooba

Two ways to take it:
a) I'm trying to get better at the game and lurk less
b) <sarcastic> I'm trying to get better at lurking

Reck, CryMeARiver say its "b" while Konowa says its "a".

What game are you reading? Because that's not what was meant at all.

Reck clearly understood what bv said as "a".

Why do you keep reaching with this?

Kast completely sums this up in Post 131.

On CMAR

That Wreck contradicts himself

Where is the contradiction?

Yeah, I totally misread that. By "my wagon" I thought you meant the one you were on, or something. Actually, looking back, I have no idea what I thought.

Holy fuck, seriously?

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[Starbuck]

I failz at logging out of my main account, but my point is clear.

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Also, unlike your hydra, we sign our posts.

You might want to pay closer attention to that.

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[Starbuck]

Except that last one, Lawlz.

But it's not like it wasn't obvious who it was coming from.

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[Reck]

@2HC - not to sound like the Harbringer or anything... but allow me to paint this beauuuutiful picture for you. You random vote us. Then you decide to jump on the "Wreck Star is stretching things" bandwagon with Konowa, which implies your vote was now less-than-random. Then I pressure you on the matter, and the other half of your hydra comes in and is all "Nah brahhhhh we didn't mean that just chillax" and unvotes, thereby hoping to avoid the pressure shit-storm you have coming your way. Then we continue to pressure you on the issue (because, let's face it, that was an awful attempt to pressure me on something so fucking stupid) and you just go all stone-face on us and decide you're not going to apologize or discuss the issue and make multiple attempts to redirect the attention to Kast. The pressure STILL doesn't let up, so you decide you're going to threaten "WC" (which I can only assume is supposed to be "WS") with a vote, and when I point out how obvious the situation is, you just say that I can't think outside the box. Starbuck rationally explains that our vote for you is okay, and you just say that we're being vindictive.

Face it - you folded under pressure. Twice. The origin of this whole thing was Konowa making a statement about me stretching, and then you rushing to his side to be like "YAH GUYZ KONOWAZ RITE". Buddying attempt, awful reasoning, folding under pressure, using the "I can't speak for my partner" excuse (play like a damn hydra already), and trying to ignore the issue altogether.

Our vote on you is

fiiiiiine

.

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[Reck]

Reck/Star

sadly

I get town vibes those voting them need to explain why.

Don't sound too excited there, farside. BRB gonna go figure out WTF is up with the FCG wagon.

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[Reck]

...okay, I don't get the FCG wagon. Can someone explain it to me?

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[Starbuck]

bv - You still haven't even told us what your point is. You keep dodging around it. I asked you in Post 163...

Either way, I chose to OMGUS you because I was trying to make my point clear. Why are you so fixated on a single vote when there are 5 people voting for you? Just aiming for the easy target?

What point were you trying to make clear? It didn't seem to me like you had one in the first place.

Your reply is the following....

Star, I was trying to prove that I was committed to not lurking this game, so I voted for you to try and be like "See, now I'm really not going to do it" which didn't exactly work out, but still.

You get called out again and you say...

My vote on the Wreck Star was solely meant to get my point across.

You keep saying that you want your point to get across. If your point was to prove to everyone playing that you aren't lurking, you have failed because you are still lurking. Why do you even join games if this is what you are going to do?


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I have tried not to escalate things. I keep in mind these people are more likely teammates than enemies. I keep in mind that there are 22 players. My priorities are in the right place, imo.

Just where have you tried not to escalate things?

We didn't suspect Wreckstar until they started freaking and acting like we did.

Besides Reck being Reck, where were we "freaking"?

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[Starbuck]

@THC - Would you not avoid my questions?

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[Starbuck]

So now you are going to buckle under pressure & not participate or play to your win condition?

That's sad.


Lynch this fool please.

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[Reck]

Oh hey, nobody explained the FCG wagon to me. I want to lynch every one of you on it. Okay, perhaps that's a tad bit exaggerated, but seriously... I asked a question, I want an answer. I find it funny 2HC was like "omg potentially viable wagon" and voted Kast. I find Kast to be pro-town. Much more so than 2HC.

lololololynch please

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Unvote

I must've skimmed over the mason claim...

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[Reck]

Unvote

I must've skimmed over the mason claim...

Maybe you should read the last 30 or so posts before you misrep me and dismissively call for a lynch. Reading comprehension for the win.

unvote, vote:Wreckstar

Hey, I just got back from Vegas and I only got 45 minutes of sleep in the past 60 hours. I'm slightly delusional right now (not kidding, I just fell on my ass trying to get out of the shower). I have an excuse for lacking reading comprehension. Last post I understood was wolf just saying "don't kill THC please", I never saw the official claim.

Either you guys are ballsy scum, or you're masons who are lucky you're masons because town would lynch your scummy asses otherwise (referring to THC's "two heads).

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I agree with wolframnhart on his assertion that Wreck Star missing a page isn't exactly grounds for an OMGUS vote on him by 2HC. Especially when he unvoted after he realized his mistake. (And doubly because of Vegas. btw, did you run into Alan or any tigers?)

He basically just checked in to throw shit at us without even reading. How is that excused by his state of mind? It says something about his priorities imo, especially if he did it reflexively without much thought.

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[Reck]

...okay, I don't get the FCG wagon. Can someone explain it to me?

Oh hey, nobody explained the FCG wagon to me. I want to lynch every one of you on it. Okay, perhaps that's a tad bit exaggerated, but seriously... I asked a question, I want an answer.

If I'm not mistaken, the reasoning is basically his one post was full of contradictions, right? But I think his response post does a pretty good job of explaining those contradictions. Plus, the quickness in which his wagon built up speed is quite worrisome.

And doubly because of Vegas. btw, did you run into Alan or any tigers?

No and no. Though I

did

give an Alan-esque speech while standing on our 51st floor wrap-around balcony overlooking the strip =D



Some general thoughts about the recent events:
- ReaperCharlie's 273 is goodposting.
- I obviously believe the mason claim. It'd be fairly suicidal for scum to pull that gambit this early on.
- ooba saying RC is rolefishing is quite a stretch.

Essentially, we've been derailed by the mason claim because much of the wagon-building was based around THC's play. Since we're basically

ignoring

that now, I can only look at the FCG wagon and shake my head. While his play has been...lackluster...it's hardly enough to warrant a wagon of this size.

Though, I

would

like to go back and

vote: bv310

because his lurker ass still hasn't proven me wrong, and it's only a matter of time until we have to lynch him anyway.

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FC - If you scroll to the top of the page, there's a nice link up there entitled Wiki. Click it on it.

It will change your life.

Haha. +1



...but what's the point of being a hydra if you're just gonna use your real name anyway, Starbuck?

[Starbuck]

I was at work and catching up on all my games because it got slow.

I'm still not used to this hydra thing too. Maybe I just need to take this game off my watched topics list on my main account.

Apologies guys.

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[Reck]

<3 Starbuck.

Vote: Scott Brosius

. Hope you don't mind.

PS,

Mod, please prod the fuck out of bv310.

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[Starbuck]

Just noting that THC is completely ignoring certain people.

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[Starbuck]

I fucking fail at logging out!

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[Reck]

Hold on hold on. We're lynching hp because he claimed bulletproof? Am I missing something, or is there a fucking carbon monoxide leak in here? RC's 370 is an awful attempt at cloaking a parroting post. This whole wagon is just awful.

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[Reck]

Okay, I'm really high right now. Did hp claim day-BP or night-BP? Or both? I don't see why a town role would need day-BP abilities. It's more likely (imo) that town has dayvigs over scum. If scum had daykill, I have no fucking clue how this game would even work. Someone clarify for me, because reading is nigh-impossible right now.

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Yeah but hp[leaves] obviously should have realized that he

would

be effectively outed by Kast trying to kill him, and him not dying. Now he's only wasted one of our shots at killing scum during the daytime. Kast ASKED everyone who he should shoot.

What I am trying to say is: hp[leaves] should have claimed before Kast attempted to dayvig him. Then we'd have an extra shot at killing scum today. FFS

I agree. Now that I'm coming down from my high, this logic makes sense. I wasn't ready to lynch him over simply being BP. I must've missed the part where he took up a bullet. That's a purely scum motivation. But something else bothers me more that I noticed:

Looking at this whole mess I don't see how Lando would be both bullet proof and a one shot cop, hell i don't see how he could be bulletproof. His continued refusal to do much of anything is what is making me feel he is hiding something.

unvote, vote HP

Uhhh, really? You're willing to lynch someone because the

flavor

doesn't quite work out in your head? This is a bullshit reason to jump on the wagon - reeks of paranoid scum who just wants a reason to lynch someone.

Unvote; Vote: wolf

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FUCKING SHIT SCOTT'S RIGHT.

ugh.

unvote

. I need to come back and play when I'm not high.

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[Starbuck]

It's typical BV. He's just mad because we were right about him.

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LOL bv.

Anyway, consider me V/LA for a few days... I'm shooting a short film tonight and tomorrow then editing it for a few days, so I likely won't be able to check in. I guess this is when it's handy to have a hydra. gogogostarbuck

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bv's strategy: "Put my vote on an unviable wagon then disappear so I have an excuse for not being on either a scum lynch or a town lynch"

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Whoops. Totally forgot to place a vote earlier.

Vote: bv310

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semioldguy- You look pretty passive in iso. As in, not actively involved in the game. As in, along for the ride. As in, you don't care about day phase because you get to kill at night. HMMMMMM. What are your thoughts on bv310?

ooba- what do YOU think about the bv and scott wagons?

AGM- if your reasoning for voting bv310 is how lurkish and unhelpful he's being, why do you excuse DoS from doing the same thing when bv310 is infamous for how badly he lurks? Why does meta excuse one but not the other?

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Since this is Episode 4-6, it seems pretty obvious that the scum faction would obviously be the

Empire

, in this game. But they don't place bounties on people's heads like smugglers would. And

why

would the Empire and Jabba be on the same side? They weren't in the movies! Your logic regarding this matter makes no sense at all

To be completely fair, flavor can amount to jack shit in games like this... as in, there was a Harry Potter game run where Harry, Ron, and Hermoine were the scum. Flavor can fit however it needs to... so don't just assume the Empire are the baddies.

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Uhh... no.

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Here's my ReaperCharlie impression:

"Hey guys! I'm going to ignore logic and say that if the Empire isn't the main baddies in this game then the setup is broken! Fuck examples that show otherwise!"

Flavor/setup speculation is pointless. You're right... Kdub wouldn't make a broken setup, but having the Empire not be the main bad guys doesn't mean it's broken. It means he's smart. And even if the Empire ARE the bad guys, there's a good chance the mod gave them fakeclaims so that the setup can't be broken by a massclaim.

So please, Charlie, explain to me what exactly there is to be accomplished by speculating on the setup.

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[Starbuck]

Btw, I've played the Star Wars LARP and it's all sorts of fun. =)

On CryMeARiver

[Starbuck]

It's typical BV. He's just mad because we were right about him.

Is this a reference to a different game? Also, Starbuck hates me, you don't. That's ironic

You realize that Starbuck was talking then, as she is now?

And I don't hate you. I just hate lurkers. You are getting better though. Much better than bv.

Weird thing is, they never use stun grenades in Star Wars...

DUDE..........................SERIOUSLY??

/sigh

I had a one shot investigation and supposed I'd use it on a prominent player who can act pro-town whether he is town or scum.

I'd say that's a good reason. I normally have a pretty hard time reading farside, but if you felt she was town, why wouldn't you investigate someone that you are suspicious of? Rather than clear someone who you already felt was town?

No chance Wolf could be scum now. He's 100% clear since his mason buddy is dead and flipped exactly what he said.
I am town. So is Farside.

YOU CANNOT CLEAR YOURSELF.

The only person who is cleared right now is Wolf.

Since I was only a one shot, I didn't want to risk investigating a scummy person as it wouldn't help us later in the game and an actual investigative role might investigate them as well.

What? I don't understand this.

Post 526 - Please tell me that you didn't just link to yourself talking about this game outside this thread?

On bv310

@bv - Not getting the Wreck Star obvscum ISO read. Care to elaborate?

I'm waiting on this too.

On Scott Brosius

Post 490 - L O L for being a hypocrite

On danakillsu

CMAR, if you're going to claim that much of your role, you should give us the name of your role so that we can confirm whether that fits. Until then, I'm suspicous of you for claiming without any real pressure.

Blatant rolefishing ftw!

FOS: danakillsu

Now Reck placed the vote on bv and not myself, for everyone voting for a lurker, why are you voting for that person vice people like...

DragonsofSummer
VRK
Toon Fighter
Scott

?

[Wreck Star]

[Starbuck]

Happy ScumDay d3x!

He just comes back every 5 days and says 'Sry I'll post more.'
I don't think prods will work. Just replace him, please. Thx.

Mod - This ^^

On Toon Fighter

Well, looking at CMaR's claim, I think the best move as town would be to lynch him. If he turns up innocent, then we just lynched a (now vanilla) townie and confirmed farside as innocent. If he turns up guilty, then we have just lynched scum. What do you think?

Are you kidding me?

FOS: Toon Fighter

Can we lynch this guy?

On Scott Brosius

Let me clarify, my participation was less than stellar D1 I will acknowledge, but another game I was in just ended so I have been participating more. I don't think it's fair that I get lumped in with people who have posted 4 times.

You AREN'T the one who gets to decide this.

On semioldguy

As for bv310, he hasn't contributed a whole lot, but has taken stances on a few suspects. I'd lean slight town on him for now.

What stances? Have you read the guy in ISO? He jumped on us (me & Reck) because Reck called him out early on lurking. He rides that for 6 posts. He then votes Scott Brosius because Scott had as many posts as him, but contributed even less. He then jumps on the easy HP wagon (at L-1 nonetheless).

Then we started Day 2 where he jumps back over to me & Reck, and hasn't posted since.

So tell me (out of his ISO), what's so townie? What am I not seeing here?

On CryMeARiver

I've never used them in the many Star Wars games I have played and they were never mentioned in any of the books I have read or movies I have seen

You know that "Stars Wars Geek" pin that I gave you? I'm taking it back now. =P


I'm glad to see that you are starting to lurk less in games.

He is R2D2. There is no way he could be on the dark side.

This makes me want to make a droid game.



Yoda (as a JOAT) makes sense to me. CMAR, if you are town, I'm not sure why you felt you had to claim so early. If I was you, I would have kept that shit under wraps, at least until you knew farside was in trouble somewhere down the line.

I also didn't notice your breadcrumb, but I normally suck at noticing them.

On danakillsu

because I don't really believe CMAR.

Why?

I'm not liking dana's reaction to this whole situation at all. He's been pushing on CMAR's roleclaim for awhile now. It feels like hidden agenda.

Unvote
Vote: dana

[Wreck Star]

Semi: Do not like your post where you try and say R2 might be scum. He’s a claimed mason with his partner dead. Trying to muddy the waters?

EXACTLY the thought I had at first.

FoS: sog

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[Starbuck]

Posting in response to prod. And since you brought it up Farside, the "read" on Wreck is more of the "Guilty investigation" variety. Not sure why I didn't say it before.

Elaboration would be awesome, especially because of what you said earlier today in this post.

In iso, you read as even scummier than normal. Trust me on this one.

So if it was an "investigation", why would you hold back and not push this "information" sooner? Right now, I disbelieve bv because of the conveniency.

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[Starbuck]

I left off a line when I copied and pasted...



I also disbelieve him because I know our role.

[Wreck Star]

Holy shit, what the fuck is this nonsense? I take a few days off and bv310 conveniently pops back in with a guilty on me. Jesus H. Christ.

I guess we're being forced to claim since people are blindly believing this with no reason for flavor. I'm not sure what the fuck bv310 is smoking, but I'm certainly not evil.

I'm

Chewbacca

, Alliance Tracker

. Flavor talks about me being a former freighter pilot who was reluctantly convinced to join the rebel alliance, despite my desire to work independently from them, and I reluctantly joined. My ability is called "Homing Beacon", and it allows me to track one person each night.

Last night, I tracked SOG to THC. No bullshit. See my post here where I randomly target SOG after not mentioning him previously after D2 starts. Then here, when we place an FoS on SOG. I wasn't sure if he was a town PR who happened to visit the NK victim or not, and I thought by applying soft pressure he might slip up and reveal some connections, which I could use to town's advantage. But here we go with me being forced to claim.

Vote: SOG

unless he has a mighty convenient claim to explain why he visited THC last night.

@Town: seriously, just fucking trust me on this. I have no fucking clue why bv310 would get a guilty on me unless there's a redirect or some weird flavor shit going on, but let us lynch SOG today and you'll see how fucking right I am.

You gotta claim, SOG?

[Wreck Star]

I didn't target TwoHeadedCtclops last night.

Yeah, I know, you targeted TwoHeadedCyclops.

[Wreck Star]

Goddam Reaper Charlie stop the rolefishing please.

The obvious thing to do here is to have Kast shoot Wreck Star. If she's town, then we have two lynches in bv and semioldguy. If she's scum, well then we killed scum, and then we can move on from their.

I'm pretty sure Wreck Star is the liar in all this mess. But regardless if she's telling the truth or not, she's the best shot by far.

There are a few problems here:
1) Obviously, I know I'm not scum. I'm not 100% convinced bv310 is lying scum though - it'd practically be suicide to fakeclaim as cop D1 and get me lynched. I know he's been known for his less-than-stellar play, but I don't think even bv310 would be dumb enough to fakeclaim cop as Luke Skywalker this early on. He could've been redirected, or perhaps I was framed. I could see a Mafia Framer in this setup pretty easily, especially as a member of Jabba's organization (it would fit with the bounty thing, maybe Jabba's crew is centered around the mechanic of setting other people up?).

2) A dead SOG would easily prove just as much (if not more) than a dead me would. Plus, SOG has yet to say if he's a power role or not - not trying to out anymore power roles, but

I got a fucking visit on him last night

. So either he's a power role (which means I could be telling the truth or I could just be a lucky guess), or he's a VT (which means I'm lying), or he's scum (which means I'm definitely telling the truth). I'm pretty confident the chances of him HAPPENING to visit the dead mason means he's scum. If he's not, lynch the fuck out of me.

I propose this: Kast shoots SOG. If he flips VT, lynch me immediately. If he flips scum or power role, we can go from there.

Kast shooting me wouldn't really prove anything, as my flip would still allow SOG to come up with a fake power role claim if he's scum.

Kast shooting bv310 would prove nothing about my alignment or SOG's.

[Wreck Star]

@DP:

First off, sorry - MS.net has been laggy for me and I figured I'd just post under my main account instead of my hydra because it'd take me an extra ten minutes to log out and log back in as Wreck Star.

Why am I the way to go, especially considering my most recent idea? Vigging SOG would either clear me or make me insta-lynch material.

I'm not incredibly up-to-date on my Star Wars knowledge (as in, I was a huge fan in 8th grade and haven't paid attention in nearly a decade)... but I don't know who would be in Jabba the Hutt's scumgroup. I'm thinking scumgroup + SK at this point, with the Empire as the scum and Jabba as the SK.

In any case, vigging SOG will either clear me or not clear me. I *implore* the town to not vig their tracker. SOG has been conspicuously silent since I called him out (likely going OMG I IZ SCUM HEY WUT DO I DO) and his first post after I called him out was less than convincing. I'm gonna

Vote: SOG

, but nobody lynch until Kast shows back up.

Mod, prod on Kast?

Kast is V/LA until May 2.

[Wreck Star]

[Starbuck]

On bv310

Sorry I can't post really detailed stuff. On my iPod. Anyway, my role is Luke Skywalker. I am able to sense a player's alliance to the force. I determined wreckstar to be evil. I didn't claim before because I was hoping to get the time to do a proper case. Starting midnight shifts has somewhat limited my mafia time so I decided to just claim now.

So why evil and not Dark side? The word evil is not used in Star Wars.

The result was that I determined my target to be evil. I assume this means "on the Dark Side", except simplified for anyone who hasn't seen Star Wars.

I've played Kdub games before this. He's about the flavor.

Seems like you are trying to cover up for your scumbuddy, SOG.


Also, notice how bv has faded back into the shadows again? Like him and SOG were trying to play a gambit.

On ReaperCharlie

after reading back, I realize that bv310 hadn't claimed Luke Skywalker when you posted the 'I disbelieve you' thing, but why didn't you straight up say he was lying in the first place? That still sounds super scummy that you said that at all, and especially how you said it.

And another thing. I don't see AT ALL how LUKE SKYWALKER could be a fake claim. Ironically, it was you yourself who remarked (pages and pages ago, not gonna find it) that in Harry Potter mafia that Harry, Ron, and Hermione were the scum group, and not to base anything on a flavor judgement and assuming the mod won't be a bastard. Well, here I am, basing my opinion on a flavor judgement again, against your sage words of wisdom.

I simply don't see how Luke Skywalker could be told that Chewbacca is evil, unless he's either LYING (about his role AND his result) or whether he is telling the truth about both, but the result was just redirected or blocked or something.

I said it that way on purpose. Why? Because I knew that he was lying, but I wanted to see how far he could trip over his own feet.

I don't think Luke could be a fake either. I don't understand why he could be told that us (as Chewbacca) is evil. BUT I've played in other Kdub games (namely The Lion, The Witch & The Wardrobe) where one of the siblings was a fakeclaim for the scum.

On Dragon Phoenix

CryMeARiver

- I have serious issues with the play style here, and I have difficulty to see why

Yoda

would be limited to a one shot investigation. For the time being, no need to lynch but keep in mind that he is not a cleared townie at all. It might even be that Yoda has been given as a safe claim to scum.

You realize that this is NOT what he claimed. He claimed to be Yoda,

Jack of All Trades

via this post.

Why are you misrepresenting him?

Unless there is a general redirecting role (which would be bastard modding in my book)

Why is a redirector a bastard modding role to you?

*This is just my curiosity, not game-related*

On semioldguy

Is it somehow important to know who I did target or if I targeted anyone at all? Are you trying to get excess claims out of the day? Wreck Star is lying, because I didn't target TwoHeadedCyclops last night. I voted them because there is a claimed guilty result.

The accusation looks like an attempt to just get even more claims out there then there already are.

If you believe this about our accusation, why would your defense be

I didn't target TwoHeadedCtclops last night.

instead of "I didn't target anyone last night"?


But even if you did say the above, that would be a lie, because we have a track on you.

[Wreck Star]

What?

The point was if I flip scum, and it comes back on SOG, he could be like "oh, I'm XXX power role, I wanted to stay hidden yesterday". If SOG gets dayvigged and flips VT, I'm auto-liar. If he flips scum, it means I wasn't lying. If he flips a power role, it's also PROBABLY means I wasn't lying.

I'm convinced there's either a framer or a bus driver.

[Wreck Star]

Sorry, meant town. Typing up too many things at once.

If I get dayvigged, it'll do two things: it'll make bv310 a target for being wrong about his investigation, and it will also allow SOG to be like "oh guys don't lynch me I'm a power role" and weasel his way out of it.

If SOG gets dayvigged, it'll either prove/disprove my claim, which will then allow us to properly lynch.

Sry if this sounds weird grammaticlly, I'm pretty drunk.

[Wreck Star]

Sounds to me like SOG is trying to softclaim being redirected without outright claiming it because it might back him into a corner.

[Wreck Star]

The only redirection I'm considering is bv310's result on me being redirected, because I know for a fact you visited THC.