Rapture Mafia - Over!

[CryMeARiver]

Vote: Nachomama

for not being bolded

[CryMeARiver]

Next person to post is scum.

I agree *sits and waits for next person to post*

[CryMeARiver]

@ Mod: Was scum able to talk to each other for the three or so days we had our roles before the day had started?

No answer

[CryMeARiver]

Would you all kindly join me and

Vote: Horrordude0125

Ugh, horrordude is in this game? BW with me on this rainbow over the policy lynch my friends!

Unvote; Vote: horrordude

[CryMeARiver]

Or page 2...

Anyway Spyrex is scum, discuss.

Nacho better confirm. He's 1/18 the reason I signed up for this.

Now that does not make sense
1/17 I would hope.

[CryMeARiver]

So...

Perhaps we should...YA KNOW...move past the RVS...we should... EXCEPT THE ACTIVITY LEVEL RIGHT NOW IS AWFUL.

@Town - shape up. Participate. I thought I'd be coming back from Vegas to find multiple pages to catch up on... and instead I find 2 pages of boredom.

Yeah, town should start policy lynching horrordude faster...

[CryMeARiver]

Why the PL on me?

WHY ME = FRY ME

[CryMeARiver]

Why the PL on me?

WHY ME = FRY ME

lol no. Just wondering why I'm worthy of a policy lynch

Because I have seen your play and I loathe it - and you usually end up flaking and replacing out anyway.

[CryMeARiver]

You mean drives should shift from an RVS-Chrono vote to a Serious-Chrono vote?

*Puts serious face on*

Large image removed

Ok, we're good.

Vote: Chronopie

[CryMeARiver]

Kill that baby. Now.
Or at least shrink it.

This. Baby breaks page width.

Hmph. Page stretcher for the win
Since I cannot edit anything, our only choice is to post till we are off this page or till the baby stares you into death.

[CryMeARiver]

Cry, will you please chill with the pictures? This is like the third one I've seen you post. They don't really add anything, to be honest. It was fine before, BUT THIS ONE IS STRETCHING THE PAGE.

Name one person who has added something to this game so far. It certainly hasn't been you

[CryMeARiver]

Cry - just STFU and stop because no-one likes having their page width fucked around by a un-necessarily huge baby, or whatever "lolworthy" pic you decide on next.

It might be quite fucking possible that I did not tend to mess with the page width. Stop being a dick and try to scumhunt.
K thanks, bai

[CryMeARiver]

Level of scumhunting possible at page 3 in the RVS when no-one has posted anything of note = bloody well as close as it gets to zero.

Personal attack noted.

Yes, but attacking me for a pointless reason isn't going to get us any further away from 0.

Personal attack noted on my part as well. Sorry I may have overreacted, but I'm going thru a lot of crap right now.

[CryMeARiver]

This game needs more activity.

This might actually be worse than RECKONER. I don't even remember another post from you.

Says the one with two posts. >__>

What exactly would you like me to comment on? I appreciate that you're trying to promote discussion, but let's keep the BS to a minimum.

Says the one who took two posts just to discuss my pictures...

[CryMeARiver]

Scumhunting is pretty possible at any point, sora.

Yep, meanwhile, we can focus on killing Pie

[CryMeARiver]

Mod: how perma-banned would I be for posting goatse in-thread?

I would cry. A river. And build a bridge. And throw you off of it.
But while your at it, google "blue waffle" and "lemon party" but you must click I'm feeling lucky. While Reck shits himself, we can scumhunt.

# How much experience do you have playing mafia? Please include any off site forums which you play to.
# What would you say is your scum meta is?
# What would you say your town meta is?
# Someone just got quicklynched, and is town. What do you do?
# Same situation, but quicklynched is scum.
# Your #1 scum read got NK'ed last night, and you have no reads on anyone else, and it's LYLO. What do you do?

[CryMeARiver]

CryMeARiver: to hell with answering your questions. None of them are scum-hunting.

Wow, this guy really hates me



Sorry for trying to generate SOME discussion

[CryMeARiver]

Point is, I've been active in this game. Not much of an opportunity to scumhunt has been presented yet (RVS votes are still being placed...), and Coyote seems to be a player who likes to make a few really long posts, quoting everything, just to seem helpful.

?

Red has said more in one post than you have yet.

So, I'm more than a bit baffled that you'd call out activity at this juncture. ESPECIALLY when you say there's no opportunity to scumhunt.

Yeehaw

(RED STILL ANSWER QUESTION PLEASE)

Unvote, Vote: Sorasgoof

Can I not have one game where someone doesn't get what I'm saying? Jesus! Maybe this is my anger at CoD rubbing off on you (which isn't your fault, I'm sorry), but come on. I was saying that I am constantly posting in this thread. Posting two long-ass posts, most of which were quotes, and PRETENDING to have content is NOT scumhunting. I was trying to get people to post in order to bring up more opportunities to scumhunt (by posting), because, if you hadn't noticed, hardly anyone posted during those first few days. Hey, it worked! I'd rather be the center of attention than no one post in thread.

I also, unlike you seem to be saying, have not claimed to be posting content. By active, I mean that I am constantly looking at the thread, POSTING. I can't wait for more people to post so I can really try to look for scum (aka post content).

If this doesn't make sense/seems weird, just ask me. I'm pretty pissed off right now for other reasons, and this just sort of set me off. Sorry.

This is how I feel with all of my mafia games right now. No one seems to understand anything.



/end rant.

Did you seriously just do that?

[CryMeARiver]

Waxing sarcastic definitely helps.

So, how should we go about the adam situation?

[CryMeARiver]

I think that SpyreX isn't intentionally misrepping sorasgoof - the way it's written, both of their viewpoints could be extrapolated from it. soras' reaction to being pressed on it, though, is slightly worrying. Misrep is a fairly weak scum-tell, because people can and do regularly misinterpret things as part of their cases unintentionally - but bandwagoning is right there, you can't misinterpret it, and

yet soras chooses to go after the least easily callable "scum-tell" of the three in Spyrex?

It's deuced odd, I say, deuced odd.

Is that a scum tell in your book? While it's not exactly smart, it's more of a town tell than a scum tell.

[CryMeARiver]

Picking up prod, even though I have probably more posts than all of the people I said needed to post more combined. :p

Same here

[CryMeARiver]

EBWOTP: Ninja'd by RECKONER + SpyreX...

Is Mafiascum loading VERY slowly for anyone else?

Haha, ninja'd here too.
Nah, it's faster today for me.

[CryMeARiver]

Ohh hay look soras never voted for me funny that.

Ohh hay look he's still alive.

Ohh hay look we're talking about the most obvious not a doctor claim ever to exist well I never.

God this post reminds me of a gay black guy
[img]
http://www.omgsoysauce.com/wp-content/u ... derman.jpg[/img]

Ohhh haaaayyyyyy...
content to come later

[CryMeARiver]

Ohh hay look soras never voted for me funny that.

Ohh hay look he's still alive.

Ohh hay look we're talking about the most obvious not a doctor claim ever to exist well I never.

God this post reminds me of a gay black guy
[img]
http://www.omgsoysauce.com/wp-content/u ... derman.jpg[/img]

Ohhh haaaayyyyyy...
content to come later

Oh crap, this was the one game the mod asked me not to put pictures. Good thing only a link came out.
By the way, I don't know how they still think you claimed doctor. It's pretty clear who the real doctor is to me But that's beside the point...

[CryMeARiver]

Oh, I AM the Doctor.
I'm just not a doctor.

LOL
YOu are just going to confuse them more

[CryMeARiver]

...oh my dear sweet god. IT WAS A DOCTOR WHO REFERENCE. AGAIN.

What? you are doctor? WHY'D YOU CLAIM??!?!??!?!

[CryMeARiver]

Every single game I join goes slow because, sadly my fault, and other
people.

Vote KoC

just because his confusing doctor claims.

Yes, I am OMGUSing for KoC. You have such fail logic. SCUMHUNT PLEASE! DONT JUST VOTE BECAUSE YOU CANT WRAP YOUR BRAIN AROUND SOMETHING.

Vote: Drives

[CryMeARiver]

toon fighter= terribad.

what do you mean with this?

Its meaning is pretty obvious.

[CryMeARiver]

Wait? What? I'm not lynched?!?

Unvote, Vote: Drives

asking for a post-death role claim

after

I'd already claimed...

LOL, I didn't even bother to post in twilight. But I'd like to reiterate my vote for the same reason:

Unvote: Drives; Vote: Drives

If you fucking realized you weren't lynched and pulled a huge fucking gambit, you deserve to win the entire game right now.

[CryMeARiver]

If I'm still in this as of now, I'd like to

Unvote; Vote: DonJohnson

[CryMeARiver]

mod: requesting modkill on CMAR. voting without personal consequence taints the slot.

kise: i think you've played with me before. my play should be null tell at best. also, what do you think of reckoner's hypocritical request?

What the heck?

[CryMeARiver]

Don, why would you request a modkill? Unless there's a good reason for it, it's scummy.

CMAR is a questionable slot as-is. my attitude about modkills is that they are as useful as dayvig's. you get a flip on a questionable slot.

kise: i think you've played with me before.

my play should be null tell at best.

Look at the bolded... he's worred about his meta and what his playstyle looks l like to outside eyes. If you add this to his being worried about the "tainted slot", I'd say that CMAR/d_j could very well be scumbuddies together.

if you think i'm scumbuddies with CMAR, then why do you have a problem with me requesting a modkill on the slot? also, i see you mention it a couple times, but "worry" is not how i would describe my state of being.

please point out any inconsistency in my posts. you cannot. therefore they are well thought out.

Again, showing that he's worried about how his posts look in comparison... scummy

sooo... asking someone to clarify

why

they are suspicious of you is... wbeing worried? pointing out that ones posts are , in fact, exactly the opposite of what another player is characterizing them is... "being worried"?

You can determine actions without flips, you know.

sure, but more often than not, you are wrong. hence the abhorrent number of townie mislynches that occur on day 1 on MS. actions are much more investigifiable with flips with which to correlate them. are you seroiusly going to argue this?

i thought toon fighter was obvscum? oh. nevermind. you obviously aren't interested in answering questions.

Where did this come from? Had you even asked him to answer questions before this?

yes. actually. questions. were asked.

Oh, so you can only scumhunt/vocalize opinions when people ask you to? I get it now.

no. but if someone is going to complain that i am not contributing, then an easy way to guage whether or not i am actually willing to contribute is to ask me a though provoking question. then, if i don't respond, or if i deflect it, ignore it, or exhibit poor logic, then one can reasonably discern my level of committment. as of yet, noone has asked my opinion on anything except the list of assanine questions popped off by nacho which i am assuming were joke questions.

I still have a Major FoS on TF, but I like this lynch so much more for now.

so does that mean you've caught three scum on day 1? you should write a book.

CMAR: you asked for replacement. you are no longer in this game and should not be posting in this thread. by dropping a vote after exiting the game, you are creating more wifomic actions whose deprecating effects will most likely be thrust upon the shoulders of your replacement. your action is inherently anti-town. given that your slot had already generated a certain amount of suspicion, that makes you ripe for the pickens. i.e. you wouldn't be my first choice for a dayvig, but since i am not a dayvig, i will certainly expose any chance i get to remove suspicious characters from the lineup, thus securing flips and henceforth generating copious amounts of information with which to utilize in my ongoing and tireless search for those of the scum persuasion.

I'm still in the game aren't I? So fuck off

[CryMeARiver]

i am not familiar with those rules regarding modkills. in games i have played, modkills reveal alignment and whether they end the day or not is mod discretion. but whatever.

But seriously, asking for a modkill on the basis that a flip will tell us something?

is anyone reading my posts? i clearly laid out why i requested the modkill. its not just for a flip.

CMAR: no. you requested replacement.

mod: i again request modkill on CMAR. not only is he posting in a thread to which he no longer belongs thusly tainting his slot, he is now cursing out an active player. this is rude and uncalled for and it is against most general rules. as you haven't laid out said rules in advance, it is obvioiusly up to your discretion, but i don't see why CMAR should be allowed to act in such a manner.

not sure where all the animosity is coming from, but i generally try to have fun when i play mafia. so whatever. if you guys actually do any meta research, you will find another game where i asked for modkill on a player. as luck would have it, i was town in that game too.

That is because I am going to be V/LA for a week and don't feel I will able to give this game attention. I am still in the game until I am replaced.
BAHAHAHA at the cursing. This game has xReckx in it. Seriously?

[CryMeARiver]

fair enough. its the mod's decision anyways. not mine. that's why there's absolutely nothing wrong with requesting it. and no, i was not serious about the swearing thing. but if it helps plead the case for modkill, then it helps. the difference between you and reck is that you are vacating the slot, thereby impressing upon a replacement to answer for your behavior.

honestly, i'm not sure why everyones panties are in a bunch. i was criticized for not participating(even though i have more posts in a week than many players have since the thread opened) and as soon as i grab the spotlight there's a really poorly thought out wagon building on me. i am amazed that noone sees the hypocrisy in how this wagon got started. but i love the misrep and the bad votes. those only help town. in any case, i see no reason to let tf off the hook here(please note he has dissappeared as the pressure on him dissipated). the conversation directed at me has been "you're scum" and no reasoning. is it scummy to

request

a modkill? don't we all believe that as mafia players we should be held to a code of conduct and standard of play? without rules there is anarchy, and under anarchy, mafia will always win.

LOL, what behavior? Voting you? Not being as active in this game as I usually am? I thought the case on Soras was ridiculous and from the little I do know about BioShock, BigDaddy could easily be a flavor name for a doctor, so I believe him. Also, doctor tells and scum tells are VERY similar as I have found out and it makes sense. Both don't want to be in the spotlight at risk of being killed.

[CryMeARiver]

CMAR - A Big Daddy is a giant in an armoured diving suit who acts as a bodyguard for a Little Sister, and uses either a rivet gun (a gun that fires 2 inch wide iron rivets instead of conventional bullets) or a GIANT FUCKING SCREW to kill Splicers.
It doesn't make sense as a Doctor claim at all. I'd be expecting a Tenenbaum as Doctor claim, not a Big Daddy. They don't have any kind of healing ability other than (IIRC) the same ability as any NPC to use the health stations on themselves.

Yes, but from the little research I have done, it PROTECTS Little Sister

[CryMeARiver]

the behavior i was referring to was the unreasoned vote. had you dissappeared right after it, you would have dumped responsibility of answering for it on your replacement

and

helped contribute to a mislynch. the fact that you are still participating somewhat changes that, but i was under the impression that you were out. in any case, if you think doc tells and scum tells are similar then you are also agreeing that soras was/is scummy. its poor form lynching uncc'd docs on day 1 and in regards to the action around the claim i find bv310 to be the most scummy(not pushing the lynch, but finding every which way to retain suspicion for a future lynch thus removing the necessity of having to nk the doc and thusly waste a perfectly good nightkill.). i have seen KoC push for pr lynches before, though i can't remember his alignment in said game, i think he was town. and his reasoning isn't poor. from what i remember, KoC is the kind of player who lynches more on behavior than anything. that said:

KoC: what is your view on toonfighter? who would be your second choice for lynch today? do you think soras is using a mod supplied fakeclaim?

My reasoning? I ISO'd you like Reck told me too lol
I'm not sure really scummy, but flailing when being attacked by SpyreX and company. This would make sense for both scum as well as docs. From my experience, doc and scum tells are often very similar.

[CryMeARiver]

your iso 29 contains zero reasoning. were you staying in the game, then you could further explain it. as it looked to me, you were coming out of the shadows, laying down an unreasoned bandwagon vote and taking no responsibility. the fact you are still attempting to play and have not "dissappeared" changes it a bit.

in any case: anyone calling the "request" for modkill scummy needs to explain why it is scummy to expect players to follow rules and abide by the mod's judgement and accept the consequences. if it is known that breaking the rules gets one modkilled, then it is a townies best interest not to break the rules. thus, breaking the rules does not benefit town but has the potential to benefit scum. come on now. you know you want to try and slice through that logic...

I just said the reasoning...

It is scummy.
First of all, I did not break ANY rules and therefore I just sliced through that logic.
Second of all, a modkill accomplishes nothing.
It ends the day - Clearly not good
It doesn't reveal any alignment - This renders town almost useless to scumhunt D2 as they can't use their number 1 power to scumhunt - connections to the dead based on the flip. It basically gives scum a free kill, a N0 if you will.
It could be seen as you trying to a) Avoid being lynched b) Avoid your scumbuddy being lynched.

[CryMeARiver]

So you requested a modkill because you're too lazy to push for an actual lynch and would rather have the mod do it for you?

Unvote, Vote: Don_Johnson

L-2 I believe?

Protects, yes. But not by healing. I would expect a Big Daddy to be a bodyguard, a vig, a serial killer (rather tenuously)... but a Doctor? No.

A very powerful ally to the Town. Each night, the Doctor contacts the Game Moderator, choosing one player to

protect

during the night from a night kill. When used in combination with a Cop, the Town has a sharply increased chance at catching Scum.

Generally, the Doctor can not

heal/protect

himself. Also, if the player is targeted by more than one Mafia family (or a family and Serial Killer), that player still usually dies.

A doctor protects a player from being attacked. If that player is attacked, it heals the player. I still see this as a very viable claim.
Also, why would sora claim a wishy-washy flavor name with the role Doc rather than the obvious one that you stated?

[CryMeARiver]

I received a PM from the mod since then, he clearly doesn't feel this is a rulebreak.
Link to a game where a modkill did not end the day.
Link to a game where a modkill revealed a flip.
I'm not even going to read that sensibly.

[CryMeARiver]

caps was intended to draw attention to the statement. people are obviously not reading my posts, i thought the caps might get some attention.

CMAR: no, no, and no. don_johnson doesn't link.

chrono: the point is obviously moot. no need to bother the mod with such a silly question. AtE can happen when a player gets frustrated.

in any case, this thread has had enough dj for a bit. if anyone wants to lay out a case and explain why anything i have done benefits scum more than it benefits town i am all ears.

That is just dumb.

[CryMeARiver]

This whole thing is getting blown out of proportion, and DJ is now acting like a cross between newbtown and obvscum. I sincerely doubt scum would choose either of those routes, so I'm no longer positive about my vote about him.

Unvote

. I wash my hands of lynching what I now believe to be a townie on Day 1, and I believe the quick-hops onto this wagon will help us find scum. There is no doubt in my mind that there are opportunistic scum on this wagon.

And DJ, if you ARE town, you might wanna

seriously

re-evaluate your playstyle. If you flip scum, disregard everything I said in the first paragraph of this post. You're playing horribly, either way.

@ CMAR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmw78t8NgIE <-- THAT is a Big Daddy.

That just confirmed my thoughts: He PROTECTS Little Sister. I still think Doctor makes sense.

[CryMeARiver]

After CMAR posted in the thread, I PMed him and he agreed to stay in the game (for now at least). I forgot to post this in thread. Sorry for that.
No Modkill's today.

In other news, WingsOWisdom replaces MehPlusRawr.

Wow, you scared me. I saw "CMAR" and "modkill" and I was like "awww, man... "
Thank you though, sorry for the confusion, though I do personally think it made a good reaction test
I don't have time to go through Nacho's case (cramming for my AP US History test tomorrow), but it seems to have been effective, so

Unvote

for now.

[CryMeARiver]

Fuck were stuck with CMAR...

I love you too Fate

[CryMeARiver]

This whole thing is getting blown out of proportion, and DJ is now acting like a cross between newbtown and obvscum. I sincerely doubt scum would choose either of those routes, so I'm no longer positive about my vote about him.

Unvote

. I wash my hands of lynching what I now believe to be a townie on Day 1, and I believe the quick-hops onto this wagon will help us find scum. There is no doubt in my mind that there are opportunistic scum on this wagon.

I've quoted the above because it felt like a genuine town reaction to the sudden push on don towards the end of the day. Of course it was genuine, so I'm just trying to make a point.

Given Toon's flip, I've become very interested in those who attempted to shift the focus to don, who has become even more town looking to me. Among these players are: Chrono, RECKONER, horrordude, Cry, bv310, and sora.

Now I'll just bet you there are one or two more splicers in that group. I feel okay about horrordude and Chrono for now.

sora, what did you do last night?

RECKONER's move could be seen as rational, because he went back and forth on Toon and was probably sincerely weighing Toon's actions in his mind.

Right now I'm leaning toward a vote on Cry or bv310, so I don't think I'd be opposed to either one.

Vote: CryMeARiver

No, this is just hilarious. If you will reread, I did not try to shift anything. He was attacking me and trying to get the mod to modkill me and I was defending my self and wondering about his motive for me to be modkilled. I was then absent for the end wagon on Toon. The sole pusher behind the don wagon without solid reasoning was Reck, not me.

Right now I'll leave my vote with R_C.

Vote: CMAR

Assuming this means that you support his reasoning rather than just like him as a player, so - see above. But I dig how you pose 3 different suspects, then proceed to vote me. Interesting.

But of course, I'm MORE surprised that soras is alive.

I love how you try to hint that soras is scum, maybe hoping it will catch on? Are you really surprised at this? As a believer of soras claim, it's kind of clear to me that they would leave him alive since he makes for a good mislynch and the chances of him protecting the person that they target with this many people alive is slim to none. I don't like you dropping hints about that though. FoS: Fate But you were saved by the pure stupidity of another player.

HELLO.
Could the AWESOME people here give me a summary?
Vote: Cry

This is just too great.

Vote: Dicaria

Woohooo go apathy for victory.

That said: There's trouble afoot. Fess up now and maybe you're town.

RC being alive is FAR more of a surprise than soras *shock*.

Reckoner bothers me with that whole dance.

KoC, while I can dig apathy, I really don't like the 779 at all.

Don is town *gasp*

RC is town *GASP* moreso I am a proud sheep right here

Vote: Cry

Seriously? You sheep bandwagon me in every game we are in and it always bites you in the ass. The only one who has provided ANY reasoning for their vote on me is RC and I responded to that above.

And why is there an early BW on CMAR?

Yeah, I'm not really sure either. But apparently this guy knows:

Read.

Vote: CMAR

This just keeps getting better and better. 4 or 5 votes on me with no reasoning, 1 with reasoning. This is almost as good as Zombie mafia where, though there was a guilty investigation, I was the target of a COMPLETELY random bandwagon with no reasoning and I flipped doctor. Ahhh, this is just fun isn't it?

[CryMeARiver]

And why is there an early BW on CMAR?

What the heck kind of a post is this, horrordude? [\quote]
Yeah, I disliked that at first too. But then I thought about it. If he was scum, he would have no reason to buddy me (since I'm currently being voted by 5 people). So I think it's just town who is completely lost.

If you will reread, I did not try to shift anything. He was attacking me and trying to get the mod to modkill me and I was defending my self and wondering about his motive for me to be modkilled.

I will give you credit for not revoting don today. I won't argue with you over whether or not you were right to attack don for calling you out after you had tried to replace out, but I want to know if you are going to continue playing this game or not. I think you owe the game that much, regardless of your alignment. [\quote]
I thought it was pretty clear I was staying in the game. But in case no one knows:

I am officially still in this game. I have not replaced out.

As a believer of soras claim, it's kind of clear to me that they would leave him alive since he makes for a good mislynch and the chances of him protecting the person that they target with this many people alive is slim to none.

Does anyone read this and go, "I wonder if someone on the Splicer team told him to say that"?

What? If you are suggesting sora and I are part of the Splicer team, I can assure you this: I would NOT be defending soras flavor\claim because the last thing I would want is to be tied together with him if he hypothetically flipped scum. That said, I'm pretty sure he is town with me. Also, even if I was scum, I would not need someone to direct me of what to do today.

[CryMeARiver]

Has everyone checked in?

I'll say it one more time before we delve deeper: If you did something to me last night fess up. Now.

Are you being serious? If so, nope, not me

[CryMeARiver]

Vote: KoC

RC... I'm so proud.

@Diacria: Sora is a claimed Big Daddy Doctor outed Day 1, KoC is scummy scum and you should vote for him now, we wagoned Chrono (who was fake-hammered), Sora, don, and then toon for the scum lynch.

I'm still patiently waiting for you to actually provide a case as to why I'm scum. Until that time, Nacho, you may as well not exist with contentless posting and your constant refusal to back up your vote with any reasoning.

This proved to be dumb lol

Sorry, that was so hypocritical that I had to make sure that I read that correctly... You just accused ME of contentless posting? You, who spent 10 posts bitching about my failure to provide a case on you but didn't really feel like providing a case on anyone else. You, who kept your vote on an UNCOUNTERCLAIMED DOCTOR most of yesterday because the claim sounded wrong. You, who failed to comment AT ALL about the wagon yesterday that lynched scum aside from saying that you were "ambivalent" about the lynch. You, whose 57 posts contain all of about 5 content-filled ones. You, who've been using my refusal to state a case on you as an excuse TO ACTIVELY LURK THE WHOLE DAMN GAME, actually have the nerve to say that my posts lack content? You know, you're probably the most ballsy scum I've played yet. Not smart, but definitely ballsy.

Very strong case

Sorry, that was so hypocritical that I had to make sure that I read that correctly... You just accused ME of contentless posting? You, who spent 10 posts bitching about my failure to provide a case on you but didn't really feel like providing a case on anyone else. I provided a decent case on soras yesterday, actually. You, who kept your vote on an UNCOUNTERCLAIMED DOCTOR most of yesterday because the claim sounded wrong. Not being counterclaimed =/= guaranteed 100% town. This isn't an open setup. And I still don't like the claim. You, who failed to comment AT ALL about the wagon yesterday that lynched scum aside from saying that you were "ambivalent" about the lynch. Well, excuuuuuuse me for sticking with my main FoS. You, whose 57 posts contain all of about 5 content-filled ones. You, who've been using my refusal to state a case on you as an excuse TO ACTIVELY LURK THE WHOLE DAMN GAME, actually have the nerve to say that my posts lack content? So because you're using "ZOMG ACTIVE LURK" on me, that gives you an excuse to not post a case? lolwat. I should also point out that for most of the end of Day 1, I was organising my Large Theme I'm modding. That takes a certain amount of concentration. You know, you're probably the most ballsy scum I've played yet. Not smart, but definitely ballsy. Not scum either. And I like that you're resorting to insulting my intelligence now.

Weak countercase

I provided a decent case on soras yesterday, actually.

Bandwagoning is a much more overt scum tell, is being committed (apparently) by two other players, and yet soras is focusing on what may or may not be misrep. It's poor play. Is poor play necessarily scummy? No. Is it scummy that he continues to push it despite people pointing out that worse offences have been committed, and he has acknowledged them but continued to tunnel? Yes.

Is this your idea of a case good enough to lynch an uncounterclaimed doctor?

Not being counterclaimed =/= guaranteed 100% town. This isn't an open setup. And I still don't like the claim.

Just because he's not 100% guaranteed town doesn't mean he's not a horrible lynch. And you don't like the claim solely based on flavor, from what I understand. In other words, you're willing to lynch a claimed doctor because you don't agree with the flavor...?

Well, excuuuuuuse me for sticking with my main FoS.

...for sticking with your main FoS and refusing to comment on anything else.. That's called TUNNELING, you know. And tunneling is a powerful scumtell in a LARGE THEME, where you should have more than two suspects >.>

So because you're using "ZOMG ACTIVE LURK" on me, that gives you an excuse to not post a case? lolwat. I should also point out that for most of the end of Day 1, I was organising my Large Theme I'm modding. That takes a certain amount of concentration.

I've posted cases in this game. I've commented on major bandwagons without being prodded, and I've found suspects all my own. And I honestly could care less about how busy you've been; the point is, you haven't been providing any content whatsoever. And still, you have the nerve to accuse me of not providing content.

Not scum either. And I like that you're resorting to insulting my intelligence now.

If you were offended, I'm sorry.

The problem with Nacho's "case" is that it's all based on stuff that occurred (or didn't occur) long after his initial "ZOMG KoC is scum get him I'll giev case later kthxbai" crap. Basing a vote you initially made at the very start of Day 1 on stuff that happened much later doesn't work.

I don't get the point of this. Is your defense to all of this "it doesn't count cuz I did scummy stuff after you voted me"?

Very strong counter counter case

Wow, talk about an epic bandwagon right there.

I don't get the point of this. Is your defense to all of this "it doesn't count cuz I did scummy stuff after you voted me"?

No. My point is, you're pushing a wagon where you initially promised to provide a case very early on Day 1, based on stuff that you're interpreting as scummy from much later. Your case to back up a vote from page 4-5ish cannot be based on actions from page 20.

VERY weak counter counter counter case
You only respond to one of his many points and that doesn't matter. On page 4-5 he doesn't have to provide a case. The fact that you are defensive about that makes you scummier. That is a very weak defense.

Let it also be noted that I dislike the following things:
Nacho dropping his Horrordude case for this one suddenly
Deathsauce's misguided, but not really scummy, tunneling of Reck
ReaperCharlie's case put forth on Reck, then all of a sudden dying
Reck leading a wagon on DJ then dropping it
Reck's seemingly uninterestedness in the game today
Bv being on the first Toon Fighter wagon, but not the second
Kise's bandwagoning on the ToonFighter lynch (since he wasn't on the first one)

I do find the following town:
Dicaria
Soras
Chrono
Fate
DeathSauce
RedCoyote
Either Nacho or KoC (one is scum, one is town)

Vote: KoC
FoS: Kise, Bv, Reck

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EBWOP:

Vote: KoC

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Let it also be noted that I dislike the following things:
Nacho dropping his Horrordude case for this one suddenly
Deathsauce's misguided, but not really scummy, tunneling of Reck
ReaperCharlie's case put forth on Reck, then all of a sudden dying
Reck leading a wagon on DJ then dropping it
Reck's seemingly uninterestedness in the game today
Bv being on the first Toon Fighter wagon, but not the second
Kise's bandwagoning on the ToonFighter lynch (since he wasn't on the first one)

This isn't MafiaPoetry, you know. >_>

RECKONER, I have a feeling you're feeling exactly how I did when you guys were attacking me. Hurts, doesn't it? Feels like an absolute bullshit case is being pushed on you, right? Yeah.

Just because you didn't pass English class doesn't mean you have to bag on other people. <_>

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I do find the following town:
Dicaria

Hmmmm...

Weren't you just voting him? I mean, what happened?

Funnily enough, I was about to say that I thought this post was pretty good, but now I'm not sure. Your read on Drives/Dia has been very strange this game.

Yes, I was just voting him for his quickvote on me without reading the thread, but since he has read the thread (I assume) and started analyzing and contributing to town and scumhunting, I find him very protown.

@Mod: Any reason ReaperCharlie's death is not on the first page run over?

Fixed

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I haven't read a word.

Okay, he had me fooled. Take him off the town list for the time being.

It's cause when I 'died', I didn't actually die. I'm still 'alive', and I'm just in a different dimensional space which those who are 'killed' descend to. When others 'die' they come to this dimensional space too. It's called the Differential Reality Plane, and here we have different weapons, more ADAM, and slightly altered win conditions. Can't wait for the rest of you to get here.

It's true.

















*JK*

Bah. Go town.

Wow, he had me going there for a minute. LOL

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K I don't see any obvscum on the KoC list which worries/pleases me.

I'm guessing CMAR is the only one, and KoC is a PR?

Not scum here

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Half right, Fate.

So you aren't a PR?

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Half right, Fate.

So you aren't a PR?

Rolefishing FTL?

It was a joke. He just said that I was scum and he was a PR. Unless he was saying I wasn't scum, but I doubt he would say that.
Calm down and read carefully.

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Anti-prod post
Sorry, went back on vacation and my laptop died, didn't think it would be a problem.
I'll play catchup in the next few days.

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*Sits and waits for the mod to send him his PM of "You know have unlimited ADAM" *

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Ok, come to a conclusion.
There is DEFINITELY scum between xReckx and Deathsauce. And I still don't believe KoC's claim. Heck, when people are backups, they almost NEVER know about it from what I've seen. I think it's also a good claim for scum because it makes the town not want to lynch them, almost more than a doc claim, because town without adams really want adams, so it's sort of an AtE mafia fake claim. I still agree with his lynch.

Vote: KoC

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Unblockable doctor!

I hate post 1185, whenever someone is lying about their role they throw all those little weasel-words like "oh gosh I don't want to quote the PM" and "gee I sure hope this isn't against the rules".

Soras is lying, let's lynch him.

I actually think to myself that this is more of a nulltell barely leaning town personally.

i don't think its me. a guilty on me means something is wrong with your investigative abilities.

unvote, vote: horrordude

if you have a question for me, just ask. tell us your guilty, otherwise i'm going back to KoC.

I don't like this reaction at all. It's as if he knows he could be the guilty but is trying to...I don't know, I just don't like the reaction is all.

@WhoeverSaidIt: Why only DJ or horror?

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cmar: Fate has claimed an investigative role. he also claims now to have a guilty on horror. reading is tech.

I'm not dumb, I realize he has an investigative role, I realize he said horror is guilty. I would like my last question to be answered first.
@Soras: Why horror or dj?

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I don't think Fate was claiming guilty on horror, he was paraphrasing Spyrex.

As you say...

Also waiting for clarification on this. When I reread it, I noticed this as well, and I think I know why he did it as well.

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Potential guilty is going V/LA? hmm... convenient.

He's posted it in all of his games.

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Mod Are you even trying to replace Wings of Wisdom? This is ridiculous.

Cross Replace with someone

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Fuck it, let's lynch scum.

Vote: Kise

Yeah yeah red herrings and BS and reaction fishing etc. etc. I hope no one's surprised.

FULL CLAIM PROPERLY AND DIE PLEASE.

Unvote; Vote: Kise

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You guys do realize, if I remember correctly, Kise was one of the tough defenders of sorasgoof? Just makin sure, because your votes show stupidity.
Hey look, scum bw above me,

Vote: KoC

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Woooooo nelly:

Fact: I was backup Little Sister.

Fact: with Coyote's death, I became fully-fledged.

Fact: I was not informed of any link with a Big Daddy, despite a Little Sister always (with the exception of Eleanor Lamb) having a bond with a specific Big Daddy.

Hypothesis: Kise was the only true Big Daddy, Coyote was the only Little Sister.

Further Hypothesis: Soras is either backup Big Daddy hoping to draw a kill (highly unlikely) or scum who claimed Big Daddy hoping that Kise would assume it was a ploy to draw him out and leave Little Sister unguarded.

Note: We are still unaware of the precise powers of a Big Daddy. Assuming soras to be clear because a Big Daddy has flipped with no power definitions = highly dangerous.

Fact: You have claimed backup to a role that base flavor all but guaranteed would be in the game.

Fact: Red Coyote is dead and you haven't said anything about what that change actually DOES.
Secret Fact: This is ridiculously important and it not being stated is awesome.

Fact: Having links was never supposed by Red or Kise. This would have probably been something that would have came out had it been the case.

Fact: Kise, after Soras's claim of Big Daddy doctor never voted for him.

Fact: Soras claimed day 1.

Hypothesis: Kise, being a Big Daddy, after seeing soras's claim of the same, in not voting him ever lends serious credence to soras at least having the mechanics of the role right. As there was no way aside from true mod chicanery for him to know that at that point this means the mechanics probably wasn't obtained through sneaky means.

Problem: Two Docs? I dont know what I think about that.

Statement: Claim WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU for reallies last night in detail.

This might be the first game I have actually enjoyed the presence of SpyreX

I am now a fully fledged Little Sister. Every time the town mislynches, I take 1 ADAM from the corpse, and distribute it to another player. I still cannot keep ADAM or use it myself.

Darn,

Unvote; Vote: Horror

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Just popping in to note that Chrono may not actually be the town we thought. More later, I hope.