Beginning from post 153 on page 7 by xvart...I can see why people want to lynch him. Pushing the QT thing which was obviously reference to another game is very scummy. Additionally, his reasoning for choosing town is weird and doesn't seem like something that would cross my mind. Sounds contrived.
UK wrote:@VP: Mostly in addition to your other scumminess. It's mostly related to the Big Bad meta comment right after another rolefish. Seriously?
You know, every time I play with you my opinion just gets lower and lower. If you're not scum this game, you simply should stop playing mafia altogether. I honestly don't think you know what rolefishing is.
UK wrote:Contradiction of my own tells? What land are YOU coming from?
It was rather clear actually. You said I was pushing any available wagon, which was blatantly false. I had only expressed serious interest in lynching you or Parama. Then in the same post you FoS or Voted almost all of the major wagons. Calling something a scumtell and then doing it yourself shows cognitive dissonance and is a very good reason to call you scum.
UK wrote:@VP: really? xvart and VP are wagons? I see very few votes on either. So we have Parama and Jack. Are you telling me that none of these are scummy?
You know what would help this? Actual context so I know what you're talking about.
DGB wrote:I've seen him as scum and as town. I'm overwhelmed with my sixth sense tingling that he's scum.
I'd like more detail if you can provide it. I've seen him as both town and scum, and I think Troll is very good at having consistent play as either. I'm not seeing a glaring difference in his play here, so you'll need to be more specific.
Llama wrote:This guy is grasping at any available straw, and trying to turn anything he can find into a case at this point. We need a wagon going here. His vote seems to be in the wrong place, his reasons for suspicions all seem to ignore simple answers, nothing here reads like town trying to make a case.
I can agree with that assessment.
Jack wrote:Fishy may be scum after all.
Um...ok, where did that come from?
Parama 169 is ><. You're really bad at this game, aren't you? Here's a cool example:
Parama wrote:OMGUS =/= Vote
OMGUS = overreacting to a vote like you did in your previous post and trying to attack the player who attacked you.
Meanwhile, elsewhere:
Mafia Wiki wrote:OMGUS stands for "Oh My God, You Suck (for voting for me)!". it is sometimes used as a shorthand to
indicate that you are voting for someone primarily because they voted for you
.
indicate that you are voting
voting
You should perhaps consider sometime that five or six months on site isn't all that much in the grand scheme of things.
Parama wrote:Setting up a dichotomy I see.
Implying you think we could be the same alignment? Haven't seen that from your play yet. But buzz words are fun.
*side track to charter*
Have we played any games together in the past where I was town? I really don't understand your obsession with me, especially considering your earlier points don't hold water. I know I took advantage of you in that open, but you don't have to be illogical about it.
Llama wrote:@charter - He is stuck a little too hard on Parama lynch for my liking, but its nowhere near enough to vote him.
This is how I know Llama is town. He and I probably have a unique understanding of each other's scum play after Dark Goma Mafia where we had a strange symbiotic relationship. The fact that he's not pushing my wagon shows me his reads are accurate and coming from a town perspective.
Nico wrote:Re: Parama. Parama is town. His posting, tone, and voting style are all consistent with my experience of TownParama.
How much experience do you have with ScumParama?
Nico wrote:The continued, willful ignorance concerning the QT quote that Elli posted is pretty damning. "I highly doubt they share the town win condition" is probably the worst result to come out of this.
I agree with this. At first I could see him simply not understanding it, but clutching to it is scummy. Any town player would have let it go after it was explained.
Uk wrote:someone needs to keep on VP if he's ever to be lynched.
Just as a note to you, I've only been genuinely mislynched once as town and that was my own damn fault (ask Llama), so best of luck to you this game. You'll have to NK me if you want me dead.
Gammagooey is acting weird this game. Usually he's super pro-town looking, but his posts on page 8 are meh.
Parama wrote:Quick note: no time to fully explain this but you should know by now that I hate meta
Parama's first sentence in this game wrote:Anyone who understands how I play knows my alignment.
I seriously don't get the town reads on him. Keep contradicting yourself champ.
gamma wrote:People who I'm interested in hearing more from (which is what you said I didn't have) are DGB, DDD, Zor after DGB posts her case, and VP.
What would you like to hear from me?
Jazzmyn wrote:I'm a bit swamped in real life but I'll catch up as soon as I can.
Can we get an ETA?
DGB, I think your case on Zorblag is really weak and not true other than maybe the random vote thing. Please see my above question.
Llama, is the only reason you think UK is "obviously town" meta based on that single game?
Oj wrote:Not my meta, at least. Troll's style of thick, somewhat impenetrable posts is close to this regardless of alignment, at least from what I've seen.
Yerp. It's annoying honestly.
Phate is being ridiculously useless in this game compared to my very limited town meta of him.
UK wrote:Not much else to say, DGB's case is pretty decent, wanna see Troll respond to it
Not really. How much experience do you have with Troll?
Troll wrote:I expect VP Baltar in particular to dislike this stance given what I had to say about Albert B. Rampage in Open 193
Not really for two reasons. 1) I have much more experience with DGB. 2) I don't think she says things just to get a reaction like ABR does. She is purposeful in her scumhunting even if she's very wrong at times.
Also, I should note that in the past that Cobalt seems to have a strong affinity toward lurking as scum...though I find it hard to believe he'd choose a scum role, so that is kind of a paradox for me.
charter wrote:Fishy and Balter on a scumteam.
How the fuck are you arriving at this conclusion? (here comes the cursing, one bottle of wine later)
Also,
charter wrote:Jack is scum.
Parama is town.
Zorblag is probably scum.
All of these reads are wrong. You've lost your town touch charter.
## Unvote
## Vote: xvart
(L-5 I believe)
That's today's lynch and should be pretty telling. If he flips town, I'm turning to Phate, Parama or Uk.
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