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@VP: Your meta sucks. I'm on record SEVERAL TIMES as saying I prefer town to scum since scum is too stressful. Other is even MORE stressful. Just because I managed to BARELY bring off TRADTiMM doesn't mean I enjoyed the process. That was a pain in the ass.
That said, I AM very proud of that victory.
But either way, I have a lot of stress in my life right now. I'm not going to add more by choosing scum or other unless it's a REALLY EASY other, which I doubt I'd get.
@Jack: Why would you waste a post pointing out something as obvious as that? Further, you don't even answer why you assumed other was cult..."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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@VP: um...everyone saw the playerlist before picking alignment. Zoraster LINKS you to it in the choose your side PM
I don't understand why you even said that."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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@Jack: No, and that's a very odd thing to say in response to that.
I'm merely stating that mafia is a game of reads and rereads. Every post you make that contains very little game relevant content is purely noise. Noise makes it harder to determine alignment.
It is mildly hypocritical for me to bring this up though, since I have a notoriously high signal:noise ratio, but I do recognize that too much noise is bad, so I've been trying to cut down.
Basically, the point is that that post accomplished very little in what seems to be a situation where there were at least some serious things to reply to. I probably wouldn't care as much if it were truly RVS but it seems we are jumping right into the game (not a bad thing IMO)."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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@Jack: I disagree that it was very ironic, since what I said was relevant to the discussion.
@DGB: unless Llama has drastically changed in the past few months (not unlikely, but still not something I'd count on), he definitely prefers vanilla town. Of course, that does set him up for lol scum WIFOM, but yeah.
@VP: Not on hand. And I'm more disinterested as VANILLA town, but I love having a role as town. Particularly vig .
As I said, scum is too stressful."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Oh my god the fucking quote stripes WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
That said:
@VP: Nah, I trust Zora and Vi to give me something cool. Honestly, given how much more power any given power role has for mafia, I'd honestly expect myself to be less likely to draw a PR as mafia. Not sure about other since it's a crap shoot to determine who would willingly give themselves a hard wincon.
Anyway, your minor rolefish is noted.
@Parama: Really? Why would you give up like that? Seriously?
@VP: I don't like your posting, and am ready to vote you given how pliable you been for basically any wagon that's occured. But Parama isn't doing too hot either. Jack also is of note.
@Para: seriously? Are you just going to OMGUS everyone on your wagon?
@VP: hi rolefishing.
@VP: hi misrep
@xvart: Nice. There are so many reasons that's a terrible post, at least regarding DGB and Ellibereth. Are you even TRYING to find scum? I shall await their response to the accusation though.
@Parama: Wow, that was terrible, you totally just made xvart's argument almost work.
Ok, seriously, at this point:
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##FoS: Jack
@Troll: Get to the point. Your first two paragraphs suck. The rest of your post is good though. And hey, no quote stripes. I think I'll get along with you.
@Cobalt: This again? I mean, even vague reasoning would be cool.
Sorry, this is slightly wally. I'll provide links for my @'s where necessary if requested."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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@Troll: I did mean the first two, though the hello was more because it was a whole paragraph rather than a simple hello, and could be seen as trying to build rapport to make you less likely to be lynched. So it's suspect. The second paragraph is "pro-town" fluff that scum can use to look good, much like rapport building, without actually doing anything. The rest, however, does quell that instinct. Regardless, I have an eye on you."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Heehee, I see that your only response is to counter OMGUS me. How...stereotypically scummy.
Let's see, you've made terrible meta posts that don't contribute anything, rolefished a couple times, though only mildly, and then finally misrepresented Parama I believe. (I should probably start linking in catch up posts myself to remember what I saw. I did recall a misrep though).
Para has VI juice pouring out of his eyes, with a couple scummy traits, hence my FoS.
Either way, you, quite frankly, reek of trying to fake it til you make it. And it's failing, terribly. So, that's my vote ^-^."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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It probably will help to know all of these are me reading from my previous post in this game.
@VP: Mostly in addition to your other scumminess. It's mostly related to the Big Bad meta comment right after another rolefish. Seriously?
I consider your first post little more than random, since it was just that silly.
@LF: Oh, I'm not saying being a VI is scummy, just that he's mixed in a couple scummy acts in his VI play.
@VP:
Contradiction of my own tells? What land are YOU coming from?
@xvart: Ahahahahahaha, nice try. I want them to respond first.
@RedCayote: Of course you realize admitting you prefer scum puts you under higher scrutiny. I'm considering it a null tell, but enough to keep my eye on you.
Where do you get your numbers for "half of them are scum"?
And to be fair, I hate playing the quote stripe game but I'm more interested in finding scum than arguing for pages about how you make my eyes bleed. Though it took me a couple games to realize this ^-^;
@Oja: Oh God Ojanen likes quote stripe bullshit as well ?
That said, I agree with what you said about xvart, but still want Elli and DGB to answer.
How you miss the fact that VP is faking it is beyond me.
@imaginality: That's nice. Why is it town v. town?
I do agree that Jack STILL needs to answer the non-hostile cult question.
@Parama: Ok, and as for the OMGUS you said that everyone on your wagon likes being not town or something to that effect. I can't be arsed to quote you exactly. That's what I was referring to.
And what will you do if I call you a VI again? I merely call them as I see them, and you are so all over the place it's not even funny.
Oddly enough, that raises your liklihood of being town.
@DGB: He's long winded but had a couple of good points in his wall IMO. But, I'll let Troll cover his own defense.
@VP: really? xvart and VP are wagons? I see very few votes on either. So we have Parama and Jack. Are you telling me that none of these are scummy?
@DGB: I'm interested in this
@DGB: Good response.
Yay catch up wall. Hopefully the sparse entertainment helped."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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@DGB: Yeah, but unfortunately, all the hammer does in SotN is un petrify you. Whereas in mafia you should be...petrified in fear at the hammer :V
Anyway, I'll be honest, you're pretty trustworthy...when you're town. Before I blindly follow you'd I'd both have to see what makes Troll scummy (which may involve ISOing him later), and also determine you to be town.
So, while I want to believe you, currently I'm trusting my own cases more."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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@Nico: Llama is pretty obvtown. Xvart is pretty obvscum, but VP is as well, and someone needs to keep on VP if he's ever to be lynched.
Also lol "feels off"
Plan on at least ATTEMPTING to justify that?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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@Nico: Funny, I could think of several townie roles that could give you exact numbers, and given the format of this game, I get the impression that at least one would exist.
Also, how in the hell is she accusing him of too town to be town? You may answer after Troll has responded so as not to give him a free defense.
Not much else to say, DGB's case is pretty decent, wanna see Troll respond to it."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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IIoA is actually a pretty reliable tell and I can see most instances of it she highlights.
But I also note it was his first post, during the miasma between RVS and non RVS."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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It seems like the xvart wagon is a lot more likely to happen. I'm pretty cool with this actually.
##Unvote
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Why do you think Jack is town, farside?
I don't think he's town but I don't think he's scum, so he's a secondary lynch."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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@VP: Thanks for proving you're just a dick ^-^.
I reserve the right to ignore every post you make from now on until you get an attitude adjustment and also learn how to post in a readable format.
And also don't spend half a post on completely irrelevant shit.
Oh, right, and you've still never explained how I violated my own tell and decided to woohoo ignore the evidence I had against your fucking idiotic accusation.
Die.
I'll find a way to make sure you die. You most certainly deserve it.
Not much else to respond to,"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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@VP: Oh, I'm sorry. You've never ADEQUATELY explained it. Since, you know, you've beencompletely fucking wrong.
Already explained it. Since you are planning to ignore things that don't fit your version of events, I'm not going to waste any breath on you.
Just die.
@xvart: Yeah, multiple wagons are actually pretty good. Just pointing out that it's very convenient there's a counterwagon forming when there was a healthy wagon on someone I thought of as scum.
At this point I'm going to mention that pops first (or was it second?) post gave me huge scum vibes, but I have no idea what they are from. It was more like, I read it, and there was like a big red SCUM sign flashing in my head. I'd have to reread his posts before I followed that line of thought further though.
@Nico: I only get profane when someone is being completely fucking stupid and impossibly bad at being town, or even looking like it, while attacking me with the shittiest logic I have ever had the misfortune of seeing. tl;dr incompetence pisses me off.
@Red Cayote: I'd say lurkers are slightly more likely to be scum, but not to the point that it becomes a 50% chance. As for the quote stripe comment, it was a general comment on "I hate a certain type of playstyle, but lynching based purely on that is not a good idea".
What the hell?
Why is Phate posting a defense of Troll? What the fuck?
Oh, I think I know and it makes me SERIOUSLY want to vote Phate.
His explanation falls flat. I think he's trying to discredit the person that started the wagon on him. Still...I like xvart scum :S..."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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@VP: You quoted it yourself. The indignation isn't fake, you are just playing that terribly and like a moron, and it's pissing me off.
Honestly, I'm mostly being a truculent jackass about this because I flat dislike you at the moment.
As for why your explanation is inadequate, it's explained in my explanation.
For the record, you claimed my explanation was inaccurate or something earlier when...it wasn't. But whatever."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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@Oja/VP: Hmmph.
Either way, I did answer it. I'll find the quote but it was basically the one to the effect of "Um, two of those weren't even wagons at the time, wtf are you talking about?""Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Pretty much answers how I don't feel it's hypocrisy at all.UK wrote:
@VP: really? xvart and VP are wagons? I see very few votes on either. So we have Parama and Jack. Are you telling me that none of these are scummy?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Actually, they were original thoughts from where I was catching up. They might not have APPEARED to be because people might have caught the relevant points as I was making them when I was, you know, catching up."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Honestly, Fishy's reaction sounds like something Fishy would do. I understand that discrediting the tell is generally bad but...this doesn't feel like scum Fishy in situations I've played with him."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I think it was Tar's Random Anime Double Trouble ? ? Madness
Anyway, thank you for the answer, it wasn't apparent in your wall and it seemed to be a more hate vote as opposed to scum vote."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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popsofctown wrote:NO ONE POST.
There's a townie that is a dead night target, but the scum don't know it's a bad target.
Scum have, say, 2/3s of the town to target with night actions, so 1 invalid target gives them a pretty good shot of messing up and hitting whoever was modkilled.
Town have the entire town to target, so they have less chance of accidentally hitting a modkilled player with their actions and thereby doing nothing.
Plus I think town have fewer actions anyway. Townie town seems townie tbh.
Obviously I'm making an exception for myself so I can transmit this idea. Plus I'm a claimed VT with lots of suspicion so I have no chance of getting shot by scum, ever. Blegh."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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@Gamma: Because PGO is one of those early claim things. What if you had been wagoned?
Either way, I was hoping to get a better answer. Ah well, at least it wasn't a scummy one.
@Elli: That's indeed interesting, though Parama did have a bad start. I don't really have any dispute with those three names since only Fishy has struck me as possibly town. farside has been underwhelming, but I couldn't put my finger on it without an ISO, and I have no read on imaginality.
And yeah, RC does kinda look bad, though admittedly I skimmed half his posts since he doesn't seem to understand how to use links, or you know, post succinctly at all. Probably will vote him after this wall unless I see something silly.
@Chronopie: Hey look, I saw something silly ^-^. OMGUS without providing any content is really cool, yanno?
@Chronopie: Then why are you voting Llama?
##FoS: Chronopie
##Vote Fishy
@Chronopie: Why did you wait until after the wagon partially started to vote Fishy?
@pops: Yeah, I got that after the fact.
@Llama/Jack debate: Llama's right. Survivors effectively count as scum in lylo. As do jesters. Non hostile rarely helps the town.
@Nico:##FoS: Nico
@RC: Do you think that taking Fishy to L-3 was a good idea in that post? I know you're the other wagon but you could at least give a warning. Also, who said you were Fishy's partner?
@RC: Where did Jack rolefish Chrono? Either way, still curious why you put Fishy to L-3.
@Llama: That's not a breadcrumb. That's a friggen' softclaim.
@RC: Least you caught Nico's rolefish.
@Fishy: You're an outsider? Really? I want you to die before endgame. But I think we can give you a little more time for the time being.
Also,##Unvote, Vote Nicodemus
Hi, rolefishing sucks."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Caught up, not much to respond to. I kinda wanna lynch fishy, but I could also see where keeping him alive could be helpful. Quite frankly, the Fishy wagon was REALLY easy for scum to jump onto, and I fully expect to see the majority of the scum team on it. I think I might want to ISO those who jumped on it at first. But I have a lot to do, so I'll hopefully get to this today or tomorrow."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I disagree, DGB. Though you have a point about the others. But I think that scum who were around would be like "Oh hey, someone who's not us is being called guilty, let's jump! Everyone will think we're ok fellas and not actually look at this wagon because everyone will be on it soon enough ""Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Plum is prob town, Nico needs to die, SC needs to realize that farside vs. llama wasn't alignment related except for the debate on Fishy's alignment. I'm pretty sure they aren't accusing each other, and in fact farside's...reaction to llama indicates she thinks him stupid town.
So, that brings me to my point. Why bother pointing out it's "town vs. town"?
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I don't think your reasoning fits with what you said. Again, how does fishy alignment have anything to do with farside/llama, outside of them arguing it? It was pretty obvious they weren't attacking each other in the sense they thought each other to be scum. Basically, your statement reads like "Hey, saying something is town v. town gets me town cred", but you screwed it up."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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DING DING DING!Jack wrote:Note that xvart is specifically "Speaker of the housepart ofthe legislature". Indicating that he is part of a faction.
I would almost guarantee that mafia are either trying to ride this "lynch non-hostiles" horse as far as they can, or lurking like d3x to see how it turns out.
And guess who's pushing that really, REALLY, hard right now?
OhYEAH, Red Coyote! HOW DISTURBING!
Oh Hai RC, why did you vote Jack again?
@SC: Well, yeah, you have to say that now, or else you admit you're scum .
@farside: If he DOESN'T visit the PGO, he gets lynched, now doesn't he?
His credibility is lower than gamma's.
Ah, cool, Troll is at L-5
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Hmm...what to do about Fishy now...his post came right before I posted mine...
If heisa non hostile other I feel we'd be wasting a lynch when we have SO MANY other better targets that might actually be hostile to us..."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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A scum tracker WOULD be something Vi would do. And any lynch that's not mafia is a mislynch FOR the mafia.
Fun theory.
But, anyway, Nico, your last post does nothing to assuage the fact you are scum and since it FINALLY appears a wagon on you is starting, despite my failed efforts in the past to get you lynched,##Unvote, Vote Nico"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I'm not asking why I think farside could potentially be scum, I'm asking why SC thinks she could potentially be scum, and I'd prefer NOT to have answers handed to my suspects so I can get original thought out of them, k thanks."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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WHAT A FIENDISHLY POWERFUL ABILITY! SO SUBTLE, YET SO GAME BREAKING!Jack wrote:
Recruitment gives us the ability to talk publicly in the thread.UncertainKitten wrote:Oh dammit Jack recruited SC in his no hostile cult .
@RC: So...Fishy claims non hostile other...but you think Jack is...what?
Further...is there a...case or something similar on Jack?
But yeah, overall, how if Fishy's claim more anti town than whatever Jack is."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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That's a nice justification but doesn't really help me determine your alignment. So, please excuse me for not excusing your actions which are borderline scummy."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Huh? Why should I? My stance is pretty clear I think. Nico is flat scummier than Fishy. And I don't know YOUR motivations, butfarside22 wrote:
Then answer the question in 907 that DGB ignoredUncertainKitten wrote:That's a nice justification but doesn't really help me determine your alignment. So, please excuse me for not excusing your actions which are borderline scummy.Iplan to catchmafia, not third party monkeys.
@SC: What about meta supported policy lynches?
Also, Jack was pretty clearly joking since the intent had already been revealed."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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@RC: I have? Wait what? Where? Huh? Please, explain yourself? I don't believe I ever said anything about voting other non hostiles. What game are you reading?
Secondly, where did Ieversay Fishy was being completely truthful? I think my stance is that he's not a good lynch when we COULD BE LYNCHING OBVIOUS MAFIOSI!
So, yeah, two times misrep? What the fuck?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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You stuck a worm on your tongue, farside?
At any rate, has anything new come out of the Fishy/farside fight? I mostly skimmed it and detected ridiculous amounts of wasted posts. Just curious if my impression was right?"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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I don't understand why no one has considered the possibility of RC being targetted both by a roleblocker and Fishy being redirected.
Or maybe you have and I missed it, idk.
Further, if fishy is lying for some reason, and did roleblock RC, I honestly wouldn't blame him for blocking him. RC was pretty well slated to be lynched today IIRC.
I don't trust fishy. But I do believe he is an other. I just don't know if it's hostile or not. Overall, I don't think he's worth a lynch when we have obv scum Nico lurking the fuck out of this game and possible SK Zorblag trying to talk things through. Honestly I haven't really been following the Zorb case as closely. Nico needs to die.
I expect Fishy will be dealt with eventually. I think neutralizing the mafia is the top goal."Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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Why the legislature? Very interesting choice.Jack wrote:
But if you are a member of say, the legislature, and fishy is in the judiciary, who else would you vote for? I wonder what farside said about xvart.UncertainKitten wrote:Oh right, most importantly...
TUNNELING ON FISHY WILL NOT CATCH SCUM!"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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@Chronopie: We know that there is a Legislature, Judiciary, and Executive faction. Why did he pick Legislature instead of one of the others?
Hence my "hmmm"
Add this to his non hostile cult claim.
Again, HMMM~!"Never have I seen anybody glorify their own lynch."
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