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This post is full of win.My Milked Eek wrote:Lurker hunting is easy to use as scum.
Richard pushing is also easy to use as scum.
I don't like either of these that are happening in this game. I'll take a look at the common factors in these two cases tomorrow. Got a test coming up tomorrow morning and I need some studying.
I wish it was still RVS so I could vote for the Aussie hater. And I see no reason to change my vote so it stays.Don't @ me.-
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Because it is scraping through without content. That isn't good.Anon wrote:I missed some questions,
Even if this were true, why does it deserve a vote? Why do you think this was scummy?Espeonage wrote:Unvote, Vote: Anon That scales as one of the very worst read throughs I have ever seen. Even on the site i first started playing on.
Yeah, basically I read the thread quickly to get an idea of what wass going on. I took quick notes and to-do notes. One of them is finding what is stinking in the richard wagon.faraday wrote:You need to read people in iso already to have a strong opinion? I thought you just read the thread.Don't @ me.-
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So do the read before making a vote.Anon wrote:
No once again you are not reading:Espeonage wrote:But why can't you come to a decision on your own over which of the three deserves your vote instead of just going for the one with the biggest wagon.
And no you're right. i'm actually reading instead.
In the same post:
So?Anon wrote:I cant decide which of the voters is the most scummy. All three have some bad flavor attached.
A more deep reread in iso will give me more light about these three.Don't @ me.-
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I think i was the first person on Anon.Sando wrote:Seraphim/Farside, the flip-flopping, ok. But the vote under pressure being a scumtell? Why do I get the feeling that if there wasn't a vote that he'd be backing off the wagon and again, be accused of flip-flopping, another scumtell. This latest accusation seems like a catch-22.
Espeonage jumping on the popular wagon strikes me as opportunistic.
Richard seems to have gone from whiny, to angry, to angry with a bit of a plan, to a gambiting master... At least in his own mind.Don't @ me.-
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Ok i need to start paying attention to this game. i have been in lylo in another game and it has been hectic.
I admitted somewhere that my case on Anon wasn't the most solid of things around. That is why I backed off. I needed somewhere to put my vote. The fact that I agree with the case on bv doesn't make me scummy. I can understand how it looks like I just flopped on the wagon but I had nothing to add to the case other than my agreeance with it.Don't @ me.-
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Ok. Anon had no good reasoning for going for which of the three he did other than one had more votes than the others.Ojanen wrote:@mod: requesting a prod on Espeonage.
And when you get here, Esp, please answer:
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So why was Anon's post "one of the worst readthroughs you'd ever seen" again?Espeonage wrote: I admitted somewhere that my case on Anon wasn't the most solid of things around. That is why I backed off.
why was Anon's catchup the worst readthrough ever, while MME's post was full of win?
Also, I agree that Porochaz' reasoning on the Richard being scummy because he thought ckd conducting a policy vote on him (and was right about it!) was really really weak. Ckd said it was partial policy before Porochaz' vote, and obviously the situation came with some context from another game.
I will have a look back at when I said that about MMEDon't @ me.-
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His absence under pressure speaks to me that the case on him might hold a bit more water than it does on face value. However I am happy with my vote right now.Ojanen wrote:Esp, opinion on Richard?
bv, did you make a conscious decision to be more defined in your stances after you got wagoned?Don't @ me.-
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Pom is lurking in plain sight which unlike inactive lurking is a major scumtell. The rest of the case has already been stated but that hammer yesterday was pretty bad.Seraphim wrote:Esp: why do you agree with the lynch of Pom? Why is boberz town? Also, you never did your analysis of the major wagons of the last day. You have been away quite a bit and have not contributed a lot to the game.
Boberz tried pretty hard to make the point he was trying to. At first I was suspicious but then I kinda saw his point even if he didn't state it well. Although the post he made right at the end after bv's claim is probably the worst post he has made unless I am misreading it.
The only other wagon of major note is the one on Richard and sadly he is most probably an unhelpful town. I didn't really ever see the case on him as all that strong when considering lother reasons for certain actions.Don't @ me.-
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There is a difference between being away and active lurking.Pomegranate wrote:
I would love to know how you feel that you are doing anything more than me, Espeonage. Yes, that was a question directed at you. You're jumping on a wagon without much of anything yourself. Ahh, hypocrasy at its best.Espeonage wrote:Pom is lurking in plain sight which unlike inactive lurking is a major scumtell.Don't @ me.-
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Because you are scummy. That is a scummy thing to claim. It is the kind of claim that buys you time and as farside says it is a really useful fakeclaim for a Godfather or any scum for that matter. The vig is gone so you are either going to be lynched. You can go around declaring that your buddies are town when you survive the night and it just too perfect.Don't @ me.-
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Trends are a natural part of mafia. Momentum is what drives discussion.BUTwhen we wait so long to lynch someone scummy we forget why they were scummy. Pom was always going to be the lynch today but because nobody has gotten off their asses to make this lynch happen we are losing it and letting Pom get away.Don't @ me.-
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You know what ABR. I really wish you were right. I love playing as scum and haven't been since I started on this site. I am quite dissapointed to be perfectly honest.
Come tomorrow if you lynch me you will realise that you do have some good ideas but don't trust them all. Pom is scum. That much is obvious from her actions yesterday and tangled feet over her fakeclaim today. I on the other hand am not scum. If I were I definantly would have been more interested in this game. It is my worst tell. The more active I am the more likely I have a PR or am scum. And do you really think that if I were bussing that I would have rode this lynch out even when it was starting to head towards a derail.
btw porochaz is scum. i can feel it in my gut.Don't @ me.-
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I'm happy with the points made. The biggest thing that makes me agree with it is that scum are preoccupied with appearing town. All those points I agree can be seen as scumtells and thus are all the more solid thanks to their, for want of a better word, weirdness. Scum overlook that type of thing in their play. Those kind of slips are better evidence than conventional scumtells imo.Don't @ me.-
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Second to last vote on a wagon is in theory meant to be the scummiest. If you look at that votecount with the idea of sando as scum it makes sense as seemingly perfect bus. People have accepted the wagon and have given it support so you jump on just before the hammer so everyone is thinking about mr hammer over the night and not paying attention to your L-2 bus.Don't @ me.-
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