A Clash of Kings - A Divided Kingdom

[Raivann]

Hi all, I shall dine on hard cheese and spiced apples and mead whilst I read thread ...

[Raivann]

Ok I'm caught up. Richard post's are dripping with scumminess.
I don't believe his claim either...

Claim: Renly Baratheon

I am Robert's youngest brother. I have decided to be King, but their are currently bigger problems to attend to.

If I die, Ser Loras is able to perform one kill to attemp to avenge me. Therefore, I know Ser Loras is in the game. However, I do not know who (s)he is and what alignment they are. If Ser Loras dies before I do, nothing happens upon my death.
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Rereading this morning.

I was Jon Snow in the mini and fakeclaimed I could get 1 kill with my Direwolf.
Even in the 2% chance that Richard is town he can die knowing that Ser Loras will avenge him.
Who exactly is Ser Loras gonna kill anyways?
Isn't that just another reason to lynch Richard?
His entire claim is BS.
Avenge this Ser Loras..

Vote:RichardGHP

Raise: CrymeaRiver

I like his aggresive RVS play and he wants it.

[Raivann]

Hmm raivann there are no benefits from a player getting a one-shot vig?

Gotta say i think thats a weak opening post...maybe i unvoted deer too soon?

Yes, there are benefits.
Thats exactly my point. We lynch Richard and in the off chance he's town and not lying, a player gets a 1 shot vig.

[Raivann]

I was Jon Snow in the mini and fakeclaimed I could get 1 kill with my Direwolf.

did you claim that the Direwolf was another player in the game? And that it got a kill when you died? Because that's what Richard's claiming. Not that he gets a kill.

Raise: CrymeaRiver

I like his aggresive RVS play and he wants it.

What did you like about it? Why is wanting a double vote a good reason to give it to someone?

No, but it was an avenge kill nonethelss.

I agreed w/him and it seemed genuine. I feel like I can read aggressive players better.
No, not by itself. But you'd be surprised what you get just by asking for it.

At this point I believe I can't appeal to the usual sense of logic and reason as there are trains running on myself and Richard with no case but the logical case I built on CryMeARiver and the case Mikujin built on vezopiraka go completely unanswered in any way! No one has defended CMAR or Vez nor has anyone agreed and voted. But the random loose bandwagons on me and Richard just keep gaining unreasoned votes which no one appears to see as scummy?! I feel as though I'm playing this game in another language here, you play in a very different style than I'm used to. As for insulting me or questioning my age well not only was that unnecessary but it's pretty much guaranteed I won't be playing on this site again. Enjoy your game guys, when I flip town just kill the hydra thing and we'll call it even Note that from here on out I will only post to answer directed questions and won't be contributing more ammo onto your trains, thanks.

Call me a sucker, but I believe Kleedrac here. He seems to be genuinely pissed.

[Raivann]

Raivann, you have absolutely no right to call my claim BS with no reasoning. If you're going to attempt to tear my claim to shreds, at least say why. Jesus.

He sounds like he just want rid of a townie, and I'd wager that he knows who Ser Loras is.

How could I possibly know who Ser Loras is?
Like a special power I have?

[Raivann]

@Raivann: Hi! Thanks for replacing in! I stand by my original opinion on Richard's claim - it is confirmable, it relies on a second player, and is extremely unlikely to be fake. I don't like your vote, nor your Raise vote, or even your read on Kleedrac. Your vote in particular - "let's just kill him, if he's telling the truth someone else dies anyway" is extremely anti-town. Explanations, please - let's start with what exactly you like about the case against Richard.

"Let's just kill him, if he's telling the truth someone else dies anyways" is pretty anti-town, I agree, too bad thats not what I said at all.
I'm still want to know from Richard how I could know who Ser Loras is.
I see nobody argees with my view of Richards claim, and I don't think Renly is that prominent of a character as xvart was saying.

unvote, Vote: Kleedrac

choo choo!. Someone made a good point about yeah he was pissed but that could just as easily come from scum

[Raivann]

I find this post scummy. Because people doesn't agree with your view on RichardGHP"s claim, you basically decided to bandwagon, which is bull because it basically said you're refusing to support your top lynch candidate in favor of a lesser scummy, but more popular lynch candidate.

FoS: Raivann

Yup, that's basically what I'm doing
Let's see if we cant finish this game before 2011.
What do you find scummy about it?

[Raivann]

3) Lynch Raivann. But if we don't do this today, even if he's scum, it probably won't hurt us.

oops!

unvote, Vote: Danakillsu

[Raivann]

If you guys don't lynch dana for pretty much claiming scum or Richard who is obvious scum, please lynch me.

Mina is probscum too, thats why she is voting me. To negate my awesome scumhunting. Not gonna fool me this time Mina!

[Raivann]

Sorry I read Dana's post wrong, I'm buzzing pretty good right now.
I thought he meant even if he's town it wont hurt us and typed scum because of a scumslip.... ugh.
I would rather we lynch Richard, but it doesn't seem to be going that way, so I hopped on popular wagon. Do I believe we have better chance of hiting scum with Richard lynch? Yes. But I'll go with the flow D1.

[Raivann]

Super smash goes out of his way to appear townie which makes him scummy.

FoS:SupersmashBrosfan

[Raivann]

3) Lynch Raivann. But if we don't do this today, even if he's scum, it probably won't hurt us.

oops!

unvote, Vote: Danakillsu

This vote seems OMGUS-ish. I mean, dana just finishes outlining his opinion on who our valid lynch candidates are and - surprise surprise - you show up on the list. Then instantly vote him. I'll admit your quoted text does make it seem like dana is trying to deflect some heat off of your threat-level, but I'm sure that's more an impact-not-intent matter (that is to say, he did not mean for that outcome).

If you guys don't lynch dana for pretty much claiming scum or Richard who is obvious scum, please lynch me.

Mina is probscum too, thats why she is voting me. To negate my awesome scumhunting. Not gonna fool me this time Mina!

That's just plain pathetic. I'll gladly lynch you, and everyone else should hop on board that. Even if you're

not

scum,

telling everyone to lynch you is anti-town play

. Even I can see that. It's apparent at this point that you are either:
- Scum, and desperate to avoid the lynch, or;
- a village idiot who has no real concern for the outcome of the game.

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Ugh, really Raivann?

Sorry I read Dana's post wrong, I'm buzzing pretty good right now.
I thought he meant even if he's town it wont hurt us and typed scum because of a scumslip.... ugh.
I would rather we lynch Richard, but it doesn't seem to be going that way, so I hopped on popular wagon. Do I believe we have better chance of hiting scum with Richard lynch? Yes. But I'll go with the flow D1.

You draw tons of suspicion to yourself, now you're just trying to double back and save face. And failing pretty mightily. "Woops, I messed up, I'll just do what you guys want." Scum. A million times over.

Super smash goes out of his way to appear townie which makes him scummy.

FoS:SupersmashBrosfan

The accusation might actually hold some ground if you tried to justify it with a case. You just seem more and more desperate to avoid any suspicion, so you're just tossing spaghetti around at this point and hoping it sticks somewhere. In the last what - 40 minutes? - you've named no fewer than

four

"scummy" players and provided cases and/or evidence for

zero

. You best put on your thinking cap and make the best damn case you can - not to lynch someone else, but to let us know why the hell we shouldn't lynch you, because at this point I'm hoping it's apparent to everyone else what you are.

You're scumhunting abilities are mindboggling. /not

[Raivann]

Unvote, Vote:Richard

I should have unvoted dana earlier.
I never should have unvoted Richard either
You're right Mina, maybe it's not too late especially after lynchmepls just made the best case in the game so far on him.
I don't know Kleedracks alignment I know alot of others found him scummy and were asking for moar Kleedrac votes. My main point for thinking he was town was proven wrong.So I was following or going along. Another way to look at it is with all these players there has to some kind of consensus and teamwork.

FoS:Mina

I see a Richard/ Mina connection.

[Raivann]

Well not much has changed.
Richard is still scum, Mina sure seems scared to leave me alive. Percy seems to always wanna lynch me.
Thor's post seems scummy to me as well, he is making sure not to offend.
I get townvibes off lynchmepls,xvart,drippereth.
I'm not a fan of either mine or CMAR wagons, but..

unvote, Vote:CMAR

To save my own ass and he has totally disappeared, he's not even voting anyone.

Be careful trusting Mina, she's really good at this game.

p.s. Name of the Wind is a must read!

Mod ~ This is truth. When is the next book coming out?

[Raivann]

I was hoping not to have to claim but..

I'm Beric Dondarrion and yes I'm a Vig.

So everyone get off my wagon please!!!

[Raivann]

No limitatians, I can kill every night and yes I should be off the hook now!
I'm Beric Dondarrion, Innocent Aligned. I'm the leader of the Brotherhood without Banners. As the leader of the Brotherhood I feel justice is important and needs an arbiter, so why not me? I'm not content to sit around during the night and do nothing!