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This game, ladies and gentlemen, stinks badly of bastard modding.
On topic, #42 and the rest tell me tovote This is not me.
Oh and I didn't kill Pooky, I swear...*hides avatar*For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Scapegoating sheeps is scummy. Just saying...BabyJesus wrote:
why? because someone has a night action that lets them give us a voice from the heavens? please. If enough sheep vote me, sure, I'll claim. But thats quite possibly the worst excuse I have ever seen to vote for someone.VisMaior wrote:Oh yes, I want to hear a claim indeed.
Hi, Peacebringer.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Unvote BabyJesus. But first, would SSB! and the other mason (and BJ too) please check with the mod that their fellow masons are guaranteed town ?
The third mason doesn't need to speak up but should still check. SSB! could confirm BJ as town after checking.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Well, if you stopped being a mason, we wouldn't be there, now would we ?BabyJesus wrote:
This whole being "investigated guilty" when I'm a pro-town mason is really getting old.Puzzle wrote:Unvote BabyJesus. But first, would SSB! and the other mason (and BJ too) please check with the mod that their fellow masons are guaranteed town ?
The third mason doesn't need to speak up but should still check. SSB! could confirm BJ as town after checking.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Do you see much harm in asking ?dybeck wrote:
Lol... mods don't really give out information like that!Puzzle wrote:Unvote BabyJesus. But first, would SSB! and the other mason (and BJ too) please check with the mod that their fellow masons are guaranteed town ?
unvote: SSB, vote: VisMaiorFor now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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@ Tyfo : Claiming mason on day 1 as a scum is suicidal : if there is a group of masons in the game (common occurence), only one of them has to counter-claim and BJ's bust. I don't think he'd take that risk if scum.
@ This is not me : mate, you are making me extremely uncomfortable about you. It's up to you to judge if your info is more valuable exposed now or kept for later (with risks of being night-killed), but teasing like you do + your unwarranted cop claim gives me chills in the back. Would you be trying to attract investigation and/or doc protection (GodFather ?), I don't think you'd act much different.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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That's incompatible for a townie.!Chucklez! wrote:
I'm not even going to argue against retarded votes like this.TonyMontana wrote:Vote: Chucklez
Looks like scum to me..I fucked up, live with it. Mistakes happen, and they are not scum tells.I'm not going to claim off this wagon, and if you lynch me anyway you deserve what you get.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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No.Astronaut wrote:So the ass that killed BJ last night shat all over the keys to the inn this time? Nice move...
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Care to explain?Puzzle wrote:I can state at 99% certainty that !Chucklez! is lying : his ability flavour is wrong.
And I'm not in the mood for another short day, despite the target being Dybeck.
Vote Darquiel.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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We don't need safe lynches on day 3.Iammars wrote:Yeah, cause the sheperds don't like rBabyJesus...
That sounds right, but isn't a vanilla townie a safer lynch than most?
Vote Darquiel.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Sorry for that :Iammars wrote:
You are misinterpreting what I said. I didn't say that he was a safe lynch, I said that he was a safer lynch than most.Puzzle wrote:
We don't need safe lynches on day 3.Iammars wrote:Yeah, cause the sheperds don't like rBabyJesus...
That sounds right, but isn't a vanilla townie a safer lynch than most?
Vote Darquiel.
We don't need safer lynches on day 3 after lynching two townies. We need to lynch mafia, who we've not hit yet.
Better ?
As for Darquiel : #257 + her position just after Squonk (probable townie) on !Chucklez! wagon + general lurking and little personal input.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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I'm not a shepherd but can say that there is very probably more than 1 shepherd in the game indeed. The possibility of GodFather is still here for Squonk but Fritzler wouldn't have backed him up like that if he was one.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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#264 was crap because it scapegoats Dybeck lightly.
Your previous vote on Dybeck sounded a bit too eager also and the "cop-tell" reasoning falls in the bin considering that :
- we have lynched a paranoid cop.
- there is already another claimed cop.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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I'd rather have a cleared living townie than a cleared dead townie but maybe that's just convention.dybeck wrote:It's actually not such a bad thing for the town as a whole - but it really sucks for the person you investigate. It's kinda convention not to do it...For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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I think the question was even about who he'll investigate beforehand.Fritzler wrote:
Yea, I'll probably die tomorrow, your fault. Woe. At least I confirmed a townie before I left.dybeck wrote:It's actually not such a bad thing for the town as a whole - but it really sucks for the person you investigate. It's kinda convention not to do it...
Now, a vanilla townie may not be big enough a fish for the Mafia to kill...For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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No, what I was saying is that you shouldn't say who you'll investigate beforehand.This is not me wrote:yeah,but on the other hand if i would die all my info would be gone.and oky it seems so that saying who are townies are pointless,so from now on i only say if i catch some scummy?
Additionally, you should always wait until someone is about to be lynched before giving us the name of an innocent : it could help to see the said innocent be wagonned, in order to analyze who went after him, when and how.
And the town should always leave you the time to say who is innocent before concluding a lynch.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Darquiel is a random player and a lurker to boot...This is not me wrote:yeah and it sucks,i am not very far of making random lynch vote,but that would suck of courseFor now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Pagan ! Isn't your avatar a photo of us (or should I say me ?) in a religious classroom, by the way ?dybeck wrote:Frankly... I think we're both lucky I'm not in your religion class
Oh and I know who Joseph and Mary are (irl, not in the game)...For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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In order to move before the deadline, could we please get a wagon rolling ?
I presented a case on Darquiel and haven't seen anything concrete on anyone else. If someone thinks he has anything better, please speak up. Else, please join for at least the sake to avoid a last-minute lynch before deadline, which is quite often disastrous.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Far from good enough to me.Werebear wrote:Hm. I had just typed a long post, and erased it, because I think I just talked myself out of the vote. OK. I would believe there are shepherds in the game, the shepherds would be a logical role. I would also say if there are shepherds, they would be good. The one scum role we've found so far hasn't been a "surprise" scum, if we were given a role name, the lynch would have been quick. Both "There are no shepherds and Squonk got lucky with a claim" and "The shepherds are evil" don't sound good to me, so I'm going toUnvote: squonk
We have a deadline coming and little time to act. So first : can we have adeadline retraction, please ?
If not, I'd like a claim.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Even if he claims now, it's too late to :
- get a possible counter-claim.
- turn up against someone else and get a case / an answer.
So... bye Werebear, as far as I'm concerned. Please everyone vote him. I haven't checked the count, but we don't want a no-lynch.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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That sounds awfully, utterly wrong.
I wouldn't mind his role being different than mine (yeah, I'm a sheep), but there's just this little thing that bothers me a lot : "I'mone ofthe sheep in the inn.".
On the contrary of this claim, I had not only no indication that there may be other sheeps in my PM, although there were signs of at least two shepherds.
What bothers me is not so much that there could be more sheeps, but the fact that he would get to know through his PM and not me.
And I'm not neutral... I'm town.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Uh, btw, so that it's not claimed later if I die, well, about the inn keys, you know. Well, I was sorta hungry that night and the grass was tasty near the lynch scene...For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Just looking at your posts since the beginning :
-#88 : "I will unvote: VisMaior - I do not suspect him for now, andI will not be guilty of lynching a possible townie.". While the unvote could be explainable for not suspecting him (although there was no better target then apart from BJ), the second part of the sentence betrays a too big concern not about lynching an innocent but about being seen on a possible innocent lynch.
You also don't take any stance towards BJ when they are the only leads then, i.e. refuse to take any share of responsibility about what's happening then (2 innocents being under the spotlight).
- #91 : idem : concern about your apparence and too strong anticipation, presneted as a concern, of either being innocent. You're clearly not looking for scums there (seeing you're not after anyone else), you're looking not to compromise yourself if they turn up town.
- #125 : "bad guys could also easily clain mason" : bull.
"for now it seems that either BJ or VisMaior that will be lynched today" : too much anticipation to my taste here but okay.
"Vis has claimed cop, with counterclaim, and anyone could also claim this, (but he supposely meta-claimed BJ as scum - could this be a falsely reverse-truth-claim?)" : bull reason to avoid voting Vismaior but still pushing his wagon.
"I've still not decided who to vote for, but it is becoming clearer who the cop/cops should investigate tonight - so maybe the true/additional should not come out. " : directing cops to innocents.
- #132 : votes Vismaior when BJ is even further confirmed and Vismaior is clearly the goner. Then disappears a while.
- #235 : finishes !Chucklez!, who is the clear lynch then. Disappears again until...
- #328 : "It seems that we are running round in circles, eh? :Wink: ". Gives me a scummy vibe, although I'll grant that may be subjective. No real input after 100 posts. Disappears until...
- #383 : comes back to hypocritically focus on lurker just when the werebear wagon is taking place. Coincidence ? Would a townie lurker do that ?
- #398 : suddenly interested in post #336. Why not talking of it before ? Advises Werebear to claim, when he clearly has to.
- #401-402 : further fishes for info from TINM, when Werebear is the play.
- #406 : points at Werebear being in danger of being lynched and suggest unvoting him.
- #413-414 : finally votes Werebear, when he is already going anyway. Prepares to unvote if deadline is cancelled.
Here are my root arguments :
1. Your posts show a repeated pattern of concern about having innocent blood on his hands, particularly #88. The only insistance where you really take a position are ones where the lynch has already more or less been decided by the town.
2. Your attempt to side-track the Werebear attack onto lurkers is also a concern to me, seeing you didn't do so for BJ, Vismaior or !Chucklez!.
3. Finally, all the positions you have taken have been once the town had decided something. You always carefully avoided to start anything on your own, which denotes a lack of interest in active scum-hunting, and more in going-with-the-town-flow.
So, in short : you're scum.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Anyway, if you really were a third cop, why wouldn't you have been more bothered about This_is_not_Me counter-claiming Vismaior on day 1 ? Your reaction (cf pages 5 & 6) really doesn't show any particular suspicion on either.
Additionally, if true, after Vismaior's lynch, you should logically have inspected the cop counter-claimer : TinM, not me (Puzzle).
I think I'll follow your plan. Vote stays.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Unvote diggy, re-vote Tyfo. If he has inspected me on night 0, it's just impossible that he would check TinM AND BJ the following night.
I guess his #125 was a preparation for a false claim.For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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