Mad World: Time Travel Mafia (Game Over)

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu is up to page 10.

[Mafuyu]

I still think the flip from FoS to "leaning town" is highly suspicious, and his latest lurking and prod dodging isn't helping.

Mafuyu will bite! Mafuyu thinks that three days worth of content as well as it being a weekend is a fairly decent reason for a chance in viewpoint; however, it is worthwhile to consider in said conjunction with recent attempts to lurk.

FOS Sharkfinsoup

@Reaper: Ending a suspicion-rousing sentence with a raised-eyebrow has always confused Mafuyu. Is that a person's natural want to dangle between self-destruction and salvation emerging in post form, or is Reaper just screwing around by attempting to insinuate setup arrangements?

[Mafuyu]

V/LA my wife is going into labor. It might be a few days.

....do you work where Mafuyu works? Eerie.


With a mild amount of additional reading, Mafuyu is going to

Vote Sharkfinn

. Hopefully Mafuyu can scrounge time Friday or Saturday to complete a comprehensive reading, but right now it's mostly popping online for small bursts of time in between recent work.

[Mafuyu]

o.O

FoS Reapercharlie

[Mafuyu]

bored with it

Babies will do that to a person.

[Mafuyu]

@Anon: Not realizing who died N1 assumes that one didn't realize who died N1. Mafuyu submits the possibility of a scripted gambit. Assuming that scum play with their knowledge on their sleeve is not a good idea. Part of being scum is the manipulation of (or lack of) information. So perhaps it is a town tell, but Mafuyu isn't going to write Sharkfinn off just for that one tell. It certainly isn't enough for Mafuyu to unvote as of yet.

In addition, it seems like Anon is currently skirting through by simply asking many things of others (particularly the new player, but this can also include simple "Read me" posts rather than redistributing content) rather than posting comprehensive sums of text instead. Correct Mafuyu if this is incorrect.

[Mafuyu]

Anon almost never loses as town. Let's just sheep him.

Unvote; Vote: Rhinox

7 for 7, desu?

Why do I have to suspect someone just because they made a case against me? Isn't that OMGUS?

Blanket reactions are not useful. At the very least, questioning Why You, Why Then, Why That Way would be the proper thing to consider. Hiding behind a supposed fear of getting accused of OMGUS is not only a poorly crafted sentence fragment, but it's trying to dodge the fact that an attack was not addressed with sufficiently obvious reason desu.

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu would like to know what your conditions are for action-claiming. Is it simply waiting for the rest of town to post something?

[Mafuyu]

Vote: Skarkfinn

I haven't likes his play all game and his first post of the day was simply awful.

Funny, a quick iso mentions no raised concerns about Sharkfinn, and a previously contentless post. Then again, a quick iso shows 18 posts, almost all of which are one-liners, so that becomes steadily obvious as to why. Mafuyu would like to see something more detailed, if at all possible?

[Mafuyu]

ReaperCharlie agrees with Mafuyu, but wonders why we are talking in third person when obviously that is one Mr. Zorblag R. Lyeh's job.

Force of habit?

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu forgets; but it isn't something restricted to only this site.

[Mafuyu]

Cattle-prodded.

@Sharkfinn: No specific reason. Funny that you're the one calling out Mafuyu, being the sole person Mafuyu voted for.

[Mafuyu]

Robbnva really is suprised nobody else commented on his observation he made earlier

It isn't a restriction, if that is what you're curious about.

Mafuyu does agree that 793 doesn't come off right at all. Jumping off the fence only because someone's attempting to bring attention to it is dodging the radar and attempting to please for the sake of pleasing. Additionally, LMP's lurker-deflection argument.

Vote Kagelord

[Mafuyu]

Hello.

[Mafuyu]

A little.

[Mafuyu]

Neither.

[Mafuyu]

Then why are you?

That implies that one of the two are true. Mafuyu doesn't see the first, and isn't doing the second.

[Mafuyu]

Unvote

Vote: Mafayu

Thal last discussion with SF reaks of scum.

It's exactly what would have been posted in one post of indignance, spread out across multiple posts. You must really be desperate, to latch on to something as stupid as a one-liner banter and call that a discussion.

[Mafuyu]

Unvote Vote LMP

[Mafuyu]

unvote vote mafuyu

have you expressed any suspicion in LMP this game?

Via post, no. This is also true for a good half of the people alive.

[Mafuyu]

You misread: Mafuyu speaks of Mafuyu, not of everyone else. Mafuyu hasn't exactly done a player analysis on...well..a lot of people.

[Mafuyu]

Unvote

@Mod: Is there actually still a vote on Empking?

No, that's my mistake - Corrected now

[Mafuyu]

In regards to LMP's claim: I'believe it somewhat. This explains why LMP unvoted when I mentioned the claim. Also, I've never recieved a confirmation whether/not my abilities work both nights, so I assume it does. Mafuyu is scummier imo anyways. She needs to claim now.

VOTE: Mafuyu

So Mafuyu is scummier anyways, but you pushed my wagon to L-1 and a claim anyways?

Mafuyu has only been claimed scummier because of recent content-less posts (some of which were hypocritical like the Kagelord vote). He's likely looking for someone that can take a fall, and your claim isn't one that'll allow for a fastlynch. That, or he could be pulling data out of claims.

[Mafuyu]

You had made a good point. Mafuyu hadn't been exercising voting power at all, which is stupid to do for any role that didn't have a specific restriction towards it.

[Mafuyu]

You had made a good point. Mafuyu hadn't been exercising voting power at all, which is stupid to do for any role that didn't have a specific restriction towards it.

your claiming you were restricted from voting?

Exactly the opposite. Mafuyu is not and was not vote-restricted, but can see why one could think that way.

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu and LMP are the two scummiest players imo. LMP/Tasky was before he subbed in and after. I want one of them lynched today. I was hoping to get a Mafuyu claim, but someone unvoted before I could get one >_<

Mafuyu wouldn't claim at L-2 as it stands.

100% is never 100% just because you think that one of the two has to be scum. Is it really necessary to add emphasis to your read?

[Mafuyu]

Either A: Mafuyu is opportunistic scum or B: Both are coordinating scum. See the votes on KL. Mafuyu's was 100% scummy.

So you believe there isn't a single situation, at all, where Mafuyu could be town? Gee, what about the easiest counterpoints possible? Lazytown. Lurkertown. VI. The scum counterparts of those three. Third-party. You're missing out on a lot of options here.

[Mafuyu]

Hm.

@Robbnva: Is Wilson a pear?

Mafuyu has a perfectly legitimate reason to ask this question, and would thus like it answered in your next post, clearly and without a shadow of a doubt.

[Mafuyu]

....okay.

Perhaps a bit more nudging is going to be required here.

Unvote, Vote Robbnva

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu believes that you are fudging around to dodge an innocent question which has a potentially high likelihood of making you not-town.

[Mafuyu]

@Rob: What is your opinion of the odds that you will be able to not only form a wagon on RC, but get him lynched before deadline? Keep in mind that your latest posts have devolved in to ad hominems, AtE, and excessive emotions laced occasionally with an argument.

In addition, is your role name exactly as you have claimed it?

[Mafuyu]

...

You can declare your name and type word for word without getting modkilled, if that is part of what you refer to.

[Mafuyu]

Targeted RC and I got no result. Either I got roleblocked or he is investigation immune. I'm thinking he might be the serial killer or the godfather.

Vote: RC

Interesting.
Mafuyu claims Item Joat. Attempted to Walkie-Talkie (Day/Nighttalk) RC, ALSO failed.

[Mafuyu]

Vote: Reapercharlie

[Mafuyu]

True.

In positive news, Mafuyu can fashion a one-shot vig tonight and give it to someone (or to Mafuyu), to be used Night 5. Thoughts?

[Mafuyu]

Redirected Mafuyu to Empking...

VOTE: Mafuyu

No scum wants to kill Empking.

That doesn't make sense. Mafuyu's Walkie Talkie completely failed. If Mafuyu was redirected to Emp, barring an RB Mafuyu would have established contact there.

The last line is also confusing. Clarify?

[Mafuyu]

Hm. So that's why the Walkie-Talkie didn't work. Sharkfinn directed Mafuyu to someone that died the same night, and as the Walkie-Talkie's talk starts D4 and lasts through the Night Phase, Mafuyu's ability failed.

If you guys hadn't noticed, scum wants claimed vig-maker dead.
Would you like a full claim?

[Mafuyu]

Michael Jennings, Paycheck.
Non Time-Traveler

As explained before, Item JOAT. Flavor-wise, Mafuyu foresaw a scum victory, and thus prepared an envelope filled with random trinkets to turn the tide.

One-shot Roleblock
One-shot Motivate
One-shot Kill
One-shot Networker

[Mafuyu]

@Reaper: Cut down your alliance size. 7 person = That's excessively large and bulky. Cutting down to 3 might provide more information.

As explained above, Mafuyu has to distribute an item before it can actually be used (hence, a two-night process of 1. Getting/Giving it, and 2. Having it used).

Night 2 was used to make the walkie-talkie, which Mafuyu gave to herself. Night 3 was attempting to rendevous with you, which ended up not happening. Flavor-wise, it wasn't working and the batteries died from trying to contact the other side all night. It was Mafuyu's plan to claim Survivor in an attempt to fish information out of one of the other active lurkers (as you were having the baby right around that time), and then roll with the information.

As to Night 1, the existance of both you as RB and Sharkfinn as Redirector makes claiming it...not advantageous. Mafuyu will state that Zang gave himself (thus, Mafuyu) an item that night, so Mafuyu DOES have something prepped. How Mafuyu plays out using that item should Mafuyu survive depends entirely on RC and SF, and their actions today.

[Mafuyu]

@LMP: To respond to your question, Mafuyu thought a Survivor Gambit would collect more information than a simple vig kill.

[Mafuyu]

And, as further clarification, 'other active lurkers' refers to both Mafuyu and RC active-lurking at the time.

[Mafuyu]

*skim-speculation*

Oh sh*t, Mafuyu gave himself a daykill, and he's threatening me and SF if we try to lynch him!

No daykill.

[Mafuyu]

Putting it bluntly, Mafuyu isn't sure of who is trustworthy enough to motivate (as a cop would likely die in this two-a-day scenario, especially if claimed), who to roleblock, knowing that a roleblocker already exists and that there's still a claimed cop, and who to kill, sans SF and RC as they are a special case that needs to be handled delicately. The problem lies that RC can easily stop whatever Mafuyu has if he is scum (or just town that doesn't trust Mafuyu), and even worse, that Sharkfinn can simply have Mafuyu redirected (again).

[Mafuyu]

Heavy explaining to do? Mafuyu's already done it.

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu claimed all of the above already except claiming Town.
Done.

Digi, you're up.

[Mafuyu]

Sharkfinn is trying to get Mafuyu daykilled so Mafuyu's night result tonight doesn't damn him.

@Diginova: Mafuyu's kept avoiding the question. There is a reason for that, and it should be obvious. What is also obvious is that you're getting played.
@VigKill: Sent at night, they receive it during night action resolution. At this rate, it might not be a bad idea to give it to Digi, provided Mafuyu lives, seeing as there is a certain lack of trust here.

[Mafuyu]

[quote="LynchMePls"]So are you now claiming that you can build devices and hand them out while also doing something that gives you night result on SF?

Excuse? Shark is likely going to redirect Mafuyu (again), seeing as the three possible items Mafuyu might have can equally benefit scum as much as town. However, that damns Shark once Mafuyu dies, so he's taking the easier route by simply having Mafuyu daykilled (as opposed to lynched, which while a Mafuyu-lynch seems to be obvious now, SF appears to think it won't pan out, hence the daykill).

[Mafuyu]

At any rate, with the current size of the game it stopped Mafuyu from either confirming town or rounding up at least 1 scum through a Daytalk Gambit.

[Mafuyu]

Fair enough.
So, cop, could you repost your investigations for the lazy and about to go to work?

[Mafuyu]

I would actually prefer not killing Mafuyu and just lynching her, and killing someone else. Mafuyu won't give us much information.
It's also odd that we have two claimed JOATs. Both Mafuyu and KageLord both have claimed JOAT (the former directly, the latter by listing off the standard list of powers).

I'll try to find out who would give us the most information for with the kill, as we can't afford to both mis-vig and mis-lynch.

Also of note is that the JOATs behave differently. Mafuyu's items are a 2-day process, and Kagelord's are assumed to be one-offs.

[Mafuyu]

What a shock.

FoS Reapercharlie

[Mafuyu]

That's an....odd request. Weren't you touting the opposite before?

[Mafuyu]

Sharkfinn: If Mafuyu does not get lynched, will you redirect Mafuyu? Seeing as Mafuyu's current possibilities setup is essentially rock-paper-scissors in terms of effectiveness, if you are going to direct Mafuyu you should state, in-thread, exactly who you intend to redirect to.

[Mafuyu]

Obviously he advocates a Mafuyu lynch, having 'seen the error of his ways'.

[Mafuyu]

Ahem.

[Mafuyu]

6 players at the moment -> -1 Lynch -> Supposedly -2 NK = 3, which assuming all that can go wrong for town does, leads to a prisoner's dilemma.

Agree with Kagelord. Let the replacement catch up first.
Also, SF is thinking too rigidly.

[Mafuyu]

Reading Iso's. Sharfinn you're a re-director and Maf is a Item JOAT? Have any of these items been proven to work (i.e. has anyone confirmed being motivated or networked with you?)

Nope. Targeted RC, got redirected to Empking who died the same night. Interpret that however you wish.

[Mafuyu]

Night 1 results are being left intentionally vague just in case SF is a scum-redirector. It's more of a matter that knowing the information won't give town any additional benefit, but gives scum something to play off of.

[Mafuyu]

Agreed, partially because "Shouldnt be hiding anything at this point" is a hilarious statement seeing as the only reason Mafuyu is hiding N1 results is BECAUSE of him. In fact, Mafuyu's pretty sure she detailed reasonably well why hiding N1 matters. On this page, even. It might be general negligence in the opinion that today's a foregone conclusion, but SF's answers are becoming stock rather than freshly given.

[Mafuyu]

Here's a relatively easy question.
What will you do when (oh, sorry, if) you're wrong?
What are your leads then? You're pegging KL as a buddy at best, and if Mafuyu flips town that road ends right there. What next?

[Mafuyu]

For one thing, seeing people handle redundant questions is interesting.
For another, you assume you're not wrong. You've made a logical leap of faith, but it's by no means perfectly accurate.

[Mafuyu]

Lack of fullclaim? Mafuyu's claimed EVERYTHING except one night result, with a detailed explanation why.

[Mafuyu]

Lack of fullclaim? Mafuyu's claimed EVERYTHING except one night result, with a detailed explanation why.

that's a lack of fullclaim, silly, your explanation doesn't do anything for me.

Fullclaim does more for scum than town. A quick look of potential night choices should already tell you that.

[Mafuyu]

Of the growing opinion now that KL is scum. Attempting to bridge connectivity between Mafuyu and KL in SF's case when there isn't enough to warrant needing to counterargue. Additionally, continued chainsaw backing of Mafuyu assures that when Mafuyu flips town, he's got weight for D5. Which would then imply that this isn't LyLo in KL-scum's eyes. Is more than aware of Mafuyu's impending lynch, yet continues to defend the point more than even Mafuyu, who has for all practical purposes revealed everything to be revealed, with the flip being the final clinch piece.

Faraday, thoughts?

[Mafuyu]

@ Mafuyu: Did you not notice that in my latest posts I never said that you are with KL, just that you two are scum. You are probably sk, and KL mafia, just imo.

@LMP: Yea, I realized my argument was fail later on. It cleaned you and prevents me and you from being scum together. I refused to answer point blankly because frankly I think it's an overblown issue and I dont feel like answering KL's persistent prodding.

@KL: So many null tells, sooooo many null tells. You missed the fact that A: I've been one of the most active players and B: I have been open and honest about my actions each night. Care to explain your recent surge in activity? I mean D3 you did nothing, especially when you were accused scum by LMP and Mafuyu. Now D4, when I lead the case against you, you suddenly are active and desperately making me look like scum. Care to explain?

Umm....yes? Hence the entire purpose of "Hey look, KL is forging connectivity in SF's case where there is none?"

[Mafuyu]

What? No.

KL seems to be gunning for the best of both worlds: buddying up to Mafuyu by chainsaw defending should Mafuyu not get lynched, and prepping a pro-town case featured around you targeting Mafuyu should Mafuyu flip town.

Vote Kagelord

[Mafuyu]

Also, if you somehow misinterpret Mafuyu's post for the third time in a row, there will be fisticuffs. ><

[Mafuyu]

Is there anything Mafuyu might have forgotten to say?

[Mafuyu]

Last words: N1 was a vig-get. KL soft-claiming information role with a confirmed redirector implies either a lie or a target-less ability, possibly providing light weight towards SF-town argument. Diginova just coasted. Observe which of the two remaining players hammer. Go town.

[Mafuyu]

Hey, hey guys?

Remember when Mafuyu was telling the truth?

MAFUYU WAS TELLING DA TRUF. =D

[Mafuyu]

TT? Que?

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu lied? Que?

[Mafuyu]

That flip was wrong. Look at the character sheets.