His avatar is WIFOMing me.
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Dammit. 7 pages of discussion on 24 hours.
Sorry for not posting, busy @ university. No time to check.
*rereads*
Rereading, I find the whole "lynch Furcolow FTW" thing on page 2-3 just stupid. It's based on meta (a very stupid meta), so it makes no sense.
Many of the reactions there are just ridiculous. Will need to ISO some players in order to asess those actions adequately. Some of them might be scumtells, and many people are just trying to pull up the VI flag in order to protect themselves. Some people are even trying to just pull out scumbuddying this early!
What Fur said on page 4 about policy lynching has some basic logic sense, but has a main problem: it might involve lynching out a pro-town, which is IMO a higher cost than just a little bit of clean-up in thread (not to say Fur has contributed himself to the cluttering itself a lot...). If we wind up lynching scum, it would be awesome, but in order to pick up a scum we might need some scumhunting directed at those VIs before just hurrying and policy-lynching at total random.
If what you wanted was to policy speedlynch, I'm sorry but you're FAIL.
Fur has just tried to defend himself out of meta, too. I'm gonna give him a closer ISO review now. On the meanwhile,FoS: Furcolow
Animorph, vezok and Friend also seem to be just filling the thread with one-liners where they just attack everyone recklessly. They are going to my ISO check.
Finally, while I head for the ISOs (whose results I'll try to post today, but if I can't I will do them tomorrow),@Mod: Votecount please?
I'm working on it right now, as it turns out. ~ViLast edited by Vi on Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.-
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Well, I have no idea about why did vezok ping into my scumdar. He has posted nothing yet
But, why did AGar vote him?
Beefster was also under the same trouble. Under pressure with no reason, as he had hardly posted yet. Huh?
The whole policy lynch thing is stupid. I don't like how serious that have gotten. I need someone to explain why the hell are we wagoning Friend.
I'm definitely ISOing animorph. Many of his posts are just reckless attacks, and I'd like to give that a closer review.
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@Fate: I don't care about any meta. So, I won't just laugh and say "oh, meta" at your posts. You're seriously getting to my nerves now.
Please try to get serious.
Outguessing the mod = BADanimorpherv1 wrote:Yeah, I agree with you there.
We should watch who gets smoke/sunlight and act upon that.
What if, smoke and light are unrelated to alignment (or related in an unusually complex way), we lynch someone with smoke, then someone with light, and both are town?
Outguessing the mod contains often lots of WIFOM, and while needed at experimental mechanics games like this, might be severely misleading if used the wrong way.
Also @MOD: Thread title is outdated (we're at battery 86%)
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@Soc: I thought tiny text was forbidden.Socrates wrote:
Fate, The Voice of Socrates, Herald to the unwashed masses, has spoken. I seen no need to trouble myself with this issue.Friend wrote:Socrates, what do you think about Fate's bogus "timing" argument?
It's very much in character for Fate, and is an argument I am not unsympathetic towards. You deployed a meta on an unfamiliar character with no further attempt to asses his motivations, giving the impression that you are not really worried that he is scum. Its an easy read for scum to fabricate, but one would normally expect a townie to be more paranoid. Compare to pacman's last post.
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What. The. Hell.Furcolow wrote:
I am not a medic.Sebguer wrote:Back to activity. Haven't fully read yet- any amazing revelations that go against Furc being scum?
unvote
glad noone voted me when I voted me
I was voting me because I wouldn't ever do that as scum
therefore, I am not scum
I already knew that, but I was trying to prove it to you all
I was also doing it for another reason. I wanted to see if I would get smoke on that post. I was "taking one for the team", sort of.
Vote: Furcolow.
What you did right now is what scum would do (try to pull out a shitty reason to get called town, and further worse in a meta-following town like this). You're just WIFOMing us, and in a really horrendous way.-
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That was more meant to be "I don't care what you meta is, Fate, please chill down you're getting annoying!".Socrates wrote:
You were all like "I don't care what your meta is, Fate, I don't trust you!" Speaking of which, what IS your take on Friend defending Fate via Meta?Pacman wrote:Also, what do you mean at referring to my last post? I don't entirely understand that part.
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I won't say that instantly, but his reasoning is bad. "Are you town?" questions are just plain ridiculous.Friend wrote:
Obvbusmothrax wrote:Wraith's play as of late does not sit well with me... as has been pointed out by others.
Also, I could easily see him using a policy I use when playing which is: regardless of what you are asked, never lie when confronted with an obvbait question.... i.e. if you are scum, and someone just flat out asks if you are scum, don't deny it, just don't verify it either. When fate asked him if he was town, he didn't say yes, just "why are you asking.
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Why the hell are we wagoning vezo?
For Active Lurking?
Sorry guys, but I'm not following. I'm not a Lynch All Lurkers fan.
Also, many people is just screaming around without saying any content, trying not to be branded as active lurkers just because they are notable.
Animorph might fall into this category IMO. His last non-fluff post was in saturday (and was asking to outguess the mod), and has hardly posted any content. A great part of his posts (if not all) have been one liners.
Fate might fall into borderline to this. A large amount of his/her posts are just nonsense screaming, asking to wagon someone just for the sake of lynching. I don't see him/her as being helpful, and I won't buy any meta reasoning to allow this. (S)he needs to contribute seriously.
FoS: Fate
However, I agree that Vezo needs to wake up, and start posting into this game.
Furcolow has contradicted himself many times. I just don't see what the hell is he trying to do there. I'm confused.
I hate those posts from some people saying "oh this guy is sooo obvtown". The only person I have a townish read of is zwet, but his post restriction might make him look townier, maybe because it simplifies his arguments, disallowing him to post actual full reasonings.
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drunkpost coming here. Don't expect much quality.
FoS: Wraith. His latest posts have just said "I'm not scum!" in many creative ways. No content at all, just pushing for the other wagon.
vezo seems to be making the exact same thing (while not AtEing as Wraith is). Wraith would rank into my scumlist higher than vezo, however. I seem to not to catch the point on vezo's wagon.
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He hasn't made himself look townier, but you're right, I'm wasting my vote there. So,Socrates wrote:I think it's hammer time.
Pac, do you still think that your vote is best served on Furcolow?
Link? Cause I flat out don't believe you.Me=Weird wrote:Let's see, in the other game, vezo had longer and more contentful posts, he seemed to know what's going on, he didn't OMGUS, and in general didn't do what he's been doing in this game. He was town.
Oh, you're wagon is "full of scum", is it, vezo? Do you think that's true, or is it just mass OMGUS? And I don't think the mod will care if you're just saying it to get the good stuff. Tomorrow, I'll look into fate and wraith.
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NOOO FATERAGE IS BAACK NOOOOOOOO
*hides under the bed*
*comes back to the computer*
I won't buy any stupid meta argument. Wraith isn't contributing, and AtEing while under pressure. While I consider Fur still somewhat scummy, you're starting to become annoying at best and scummy at worst, Fate.
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This.Socrates wrote:
Why in the world are you trying to get other people to peer pressure you?Furcolow wrote:my read on him is townie
i'm sticking by my read
i am not hammering him, unless 3 people in a row tell me they want me to
You very obviously want to hammer, and you very obviously don't want responsibility for said hammer.
Fate, should we be derailing this wagon?
We're not discussing. Not even scumhunting. Wraith doesn't want even want to defend himself.
I'll ask Fur why does he think Wraith is obvtown. I totally disagree.
And, no need to consensus, Fur. If you are cowardly avoiding responsibility for the hammer, then don't think on hammering. If you think Wraith is town (and I disagree) then don't offer to hammer, because you're contradicting.
That's it. Good bye Wraith. Slammah hammah.
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We're not policy lynching Furc.AGar wrote:
Did you read the OP? It's a modified Deep South.animorpherv1 wrote:vote:Furcolow
I don't remember this being Nightless...
Also, are you really going to keep on this Furcolow policy lynching bullshit?
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Consider yourself special, I don't use them very often.
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I'm no longer V/LA (internet seems to be back).
No meta for me. Shut up.Furcolow wrote:I have scum meta now
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=14990
so you all can see i'm town this game based upon that
stop my lynch right now
If you don't know why do I hate meta soo much, is b/c scum can just try and play differently to their scum meta, say "I'm not scum b/c that's not my meta" and pass by. Meta is a glass filled with exquisite chilean WIFOM, and I'm not taking it, sorry.
AtE makes you look just worse.Furcolow wrote:i have to go mow the lawn, but honestly, i have no reason to be at L-3 or whatever. Town need to unvote me, honestly, if you ever trust me on AtE trust me this game. I am a very devout person, and this thread title has special significance and meaning to me. I relate being town this game to actually fighting in a holy war on the side of good, justice, and everything right
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OK. I read plum's pbpa, in which her conclusion is that I'm scum. Her main argument is:
Syntax? Tone? How the hell does this part of your attack work?*headdesk* This indicisiveness is reading leaning scum, not leaning town read out of it. The 'I don't want to hammer' syntax and tone especially seem to be the product of not wanting to be saddled with blame which might lead to suspicion. Doesn't even give an idea why he doubts Wraith as Town, just that he doubts Vezo as not being a better wagon - mentality is scum debating between two competing wagons? I DO NOT LIKE.
Wait, why? THIS IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION. Aso pacman's next post pander to Soc prodding him about aving his vote on Furc BUT doesn't commit to anything WHIILE incriminating Wraith - as if he's afraid he might have to hammer soon or risk suspicion.
In fact, I wasn't totally sure about Wraith. It was annoying to see him just whining about don't caring about the game anymore. It was scummy too, and altough I made the wrong call there, his attitude was really hurting us. His defense posts were just, either trying to push the other wagon, or AtEing on the form of "oh well lynch me and see me flip town". NOT putting good reasoning on either way.
Scum debating two competing wagons? There was sooo much people just jumping relentlessly between wagons and no mention of them? C'mon.
vezok's wagon wasn't enough strong yet. That's why I don't jump it. Also, it's obvious that a scumteam isn't made of only one person. Someone holding suspiciousness for only one person can be accused of tunneling. There are way too much scumbags floating around.
Also, many of her points are based on "tone". Is it more of the hunch-type, or is there something that can be explained here? And if the second, explain.
Welcone CKD!
Plum calls for town unity in her 656, all in bold. I, despite being in Plum's scumlist, totally endorse that post.
Furc and vezok start bickering in a really lulz way. Zwet calls us to lynch Vi. What should I say?
hm... l0l?
Locke says I'm scum because I hate meta. Check my previous post, where I say why do I hate meta stuff. I don't like LaL because I often fell for it in my early days at MS, and it was often an epic-fail. I hammered wraith because, well, read my response to Plum's accusation.
More swinginess from Furcolow. Since when I left my computer 2 nights ago, he voted M=W, then mothrax, then M=W again, then me, none of the above votes with reasoning (mine just to avoid being top wagon). AND HE CALLS THAT TOWN IS REALLY SPLIT.
Furc is commanding in my list of scum. by a REALLY WIDE margin.
You name a top 3 scum, to vote someone outside the top 3. Why are you voting me then?Socrates wrote:Top three scum:
Sebguer:
Friend:
Furcolow:
unvote, Vote: pacman
I don't know what to say about later posts. Many of the posts have been ridiculous bickerings about useless stuff. Furc has been obviously vote-hopping, and his arguments for voting me are almost nil. So,my vote stands.-
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Heh. I just thought it makes no sense that you don't vote your own suspect, but rather what someone else tells you. So I'm asking him whether or not he has any actual reason to vote me. It's not a "WHY ME!?!?!"; had he voted anyone else with the same "reasoning" I would have replied the same.Friend wrote:
This feels scummy to me. It shows that pacman wasn't reallly paying attention to the thread and tries to invalidate Soc's vote.pacman wrote:You name a top 3 scum, to vote someone outside the top 3. Why are you voting me then?
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What is this post supposed to mean?Furcolow wrote:look at the straight up players on the wagons
my wagon is just straight up scummy in terms of playstyle. you would think those guys voting me, if scum, would want to keep me around just to "fit in". Honestly, pacman, mothrax, animorpher, and vezokpiraka.... and pacman has the wagon on him?
I really don't support a pacman wagon, honestly, it kills me to know he feels like town and i'm voting for him so i'm really in a pickle here, shackled by what i need to do at this time..for now, i will have tounvote, and put my vote on someone when I feel like I can make a more informed AND obvious decision.
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Yes I do think you're mafia.Furcolow wrote:Do you honestly believe I am mafia, pacman? If so, why; and if not, why are you voting me?
You're just swinging around votes w/o reasoning, jumping into the best wagon when the time comes. Your votes on M=W and mothrax have very little backing behind them, then you vote on me with no reasoning, just trying to push a quickwagon while I was gone. That vote was very scummy, and the other votes show you as wagon-hopper (is that the right term?)
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Doing nothing sispicious is mild scumtell? me confused.zwetschenwasser wrote:
pacman has done absolutely nothing to deserve an instawagon, apart from doing absolutely nothing suspicious, which is only a mild scumtell and deserves only some pressure, not immediate death.vezokpiraka wrote:Pacman scum here I come.
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OK. Might anyone bring up WHY THE HELL ARE YOU WAGONING ME?
The latest two votes are "because I'm doing nothing suspicious". vezo, if that's supposed to be sarcastic, then explain why am I suspicious for you. If not, stop acting like a derp and go back to game.
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Plum wrote:pacman281292 wrote:Syntax? Tone? How the hell does this part of your attack work?
In fact, I wasn't totally sure about Wraith. It was annoying to see him just whining about don't caring about the game anymore. It was scummy too, and altough I made the wrong call there, his attitude was really hurting us. His defense posts were just, either trying to push the other wagon, or AtEing on the form of "oh well lynch me and see me flip town". NOT putting good reasoning on either way.
"I'm not hammering Wraith" reads "I don't want to be saddled with the stigma of having hammered Wraith" (yes, there's a degree of subjectivity here, but a phrasing like "I don't want to vote Wraith because I'm not very sure at all he's scum".pacman281292 wrote:The post above me is AtE. No good.
Blergh, no idea on what to do. I'm not hammering wraith; his actions while over pressure haven't been good, but vezo's deffenses were poor, even for such a poor wagon as his was at the beginning.[Call it briefing my words. I wasn't sure about the sense on the Wraith wagon, but his later actions convinced me of hammering]Moreover instead of explaining at all the you doubted he was scum you throw out a weakish attack on someone else to justify staying off the wagon[I was trying to state what I thought of the other active wagon (vezo's - I often try to post thoughts in all the active wagons when I have them, in order to not throw myself into tunneling)]- it did not seem like sincere doubt, but more like you'd not reached a conclusion within yourself whether it would be better to hammer Wraith despite the consequences on increased scrutiny Day 1 or whether it would be better to bolster the Vezo wagon and if Wraith would go, someone else would take the scrutiny.[I don't get exactly what you said there, sorry]Spending your vote the entire day on Furc (as opposed to say Vezo, whom you also suspected and was an alternate wagon with potential, unlike Furc)[In fact, my suspiciousness on vezo started to rise late D1, as during early D1 I saw vezo as just being lurking. On the meanwhile, I felt Furc suspicious, so my vote stayed with him the whole day]gives me bad feelings about the sincerity of your scumhunting in this game as a whole. Together these give the impression of a scumbag who doesn't want the blame of hammering Wraith but not really because he doubts his read on Wraith, just because he's still debating whether Vezo is a better wagon, whoile voting Furc over both of them.[I admit the blame on Wraith's hammer. It was a mistake, but Wraith's denial of the game was being totally unhelpful, and that was just starting to make us blabber around nothing]The continued reiteration of the same points on Wraith seem to be there to justify a potential jump to the Wraith wagon while never seeming to come to new thoughts or conclusions over whether this major wagon was worth your vote or not. Seriously, every time you say 'he's AtEing but I'm still unsure and anyway (player) is being scummy so I dunnnnno'. Every one. [In order to avoind falling into tunneling, and in order to not to miss any big thing]This rings of scum unsure whether he wants to commit to the wagon that late, not Town actively trying to figure out whether Wraith is or isn't scum. Anyway, when did you go from 'Wraith is scummish but I'm unsure' to 'Wraith[Incomplete thought... Might complete?]
Second, and done above.pacman281292 wrote:Also, many of her points are based on "tone". Is it more of the hunch-type, or is there something that can be explained here? And if the second, explain.
I got it. Explanations above too.
Not to mention he didn't notice that Zwets meant to vote me when he voted Vi. Also, caught skimming Pacman's ISO:Friend wrote:
This feels scummy to me. It shows that pacman wasn't reallly paying attention to the thread and tries to invalidate Soc's vote.pacman wrote:You name a top 3 scum, to vote someone outside the top 3. Why are you voting me then?
unvote, vote: Pacman
I meant that that post made no sense. Also, I didn't get that part either.
Hoping for a Modkill? It can be read different ways; this at least is mostly gut but I dislike it muchly.pacman281292 wrote:@Soc: I thought tiny text was forbidden.
Not looking for a modkill. Just annoyed at the tiny text. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill there...
Everyone categorically dismissing meta as a tool: You're partly right, but meta does have a place and denying that it does at all is ridiculous. Some people have playstyle things they do as both Town and scum, for example. Those are nulltells, even if in general they could be considered scumtells. I think denying the thoughtful uses of meta is an easy way to dismiss and argument without arguing it.
Well, I mean, the ones using meta as an argument here are using it AS THEIR ONLY ARGUMENT. meta + any other valid argument might actually enforce the argument, but meta as the only argument on something (like an obvtown read) or meta used in self-defense are full of WIFOM.
SPYREX????
I'll hold to CKD's quickmeta of Vezo as a decent reason to hold my overwhelming desire to suspect him for the moment.-
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Yep. I did see possible scum motivations there too. But, I did see town motivations as well, which were the ones which made me post that.Plum wrote:Pacman: I see your explanations in response to me. It doesn't change my opinion of the instances I called out very much. Your interpretation is clearly along the lines of the impression you initially tried to give off, but it doesn't change the fact that when I read the statements themselves I see the very possible scum motivations for them.-
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I wanteed to do this too...Socrates wrote:
Every time I see this kind of argument I want to ram my head through my monitor.mothrax wrote:@Plum
That is why. Between the three of you(You, AGar, and Socrates) the call for order sounds like a huge rehearsed attempt to consolidate arounf you. Soc(rates) blatantly said he would follow you vote wise. It is quite possible he trusts you and has confirmed you in some way, but it is also possible that you are scum trying to lead the town by looking ubertown.mothrax wrote:this whole cry for help/unison while on the surface, townish, reads as almost rehearsed, like scum planned it out.
Calling for unison is no scumtell. Scum will often try to fuel up chaos in order to stain up someone at random. Calling for order is good - however, I admit that it has more than its fair share of WIFOM. So, it's nulltell. No scumtell.
I somewhat agree with AGar's last post until the part he starts getting offensive with Furc.-
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No. The part when you tell him to go back to the road to rome. Not useful, and offensive.AGar wrote:
Which part? The telling him I'm not going to stop my playstyle and he should replace out part? Or the telling him how people will be less inclined to think he's scummy if he's truly town part?pacman281292 wrote:I somewhat agree with AGar's last post until the part he starts getting offensive with Furc.
I love how Furc makes a big stink about it, while I tell Mothrax to DELETE HIS ACCOUNT and he just moves on with the game.
Seriously people, CONSISTENCY much?
And telling moth to delete his account? stop acting like a bastard and scumhunt for serious.-
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1) Why misuse of words?Furcolow wrote:1) misuse of words
2) disapproval of ad hom
3) active lurking
2) What the hell is this?
3) Hypocrisy much?
Well, I tried to reply to Plum's case. She wasn't satisfied. So, I wasn't sure on what to say from there on.
The case on mothrax does make sense. I tried to give in some points there (not sure this is the right wording), but then decided against because stuff was already spoken. So I answered other stuff.
I also decided to not to bother about CKD's try, because I did think it would fail. I found what I was going to say already spoken in-thread so much times, I just decided to let it go.
You have been active lurking even worse, Furc. Don't come up with hypocrisy there, scum.-
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This post is terribly scummy. No way you can miss this, guys...Furcolow wrote:I don't actively lurk. I am the most prolific poster within this thread hands down.
OH DEAR, THIS MAKES MY EYES BLEED.
Indeed, posting a ton of spam without content is as active lurking as punching in to post things without content each 48 hours. Post count is a good reference factor, BUT not an objective factor. Icould give you an example, hadn't that example been an ongoing game (which it is...)
I am not satisfied with any of your responses, either, and you are not making sense if you're town. What does the case on mothrax have to do with the case on you? are you saying you know mothrax's alignment?
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!
You're the one who makes no sense. What makes you think I do know mothrax's alignment? What makes you feel unsatisfied with my answers?
ad hom is a shortened version of a term for slander/baseless attacks which generally contain many cusswords
attacking the person instead of their argument
I'm not sure, but I think I get the definition.
However, what makes you think I'm making ad hom? Answer please.
no, it is not hypocriticalFALSE
i do not actively lurkFALSE
i spam, if anythingTRUE
and don't call me scum, when you are the one who is more likely mafiaHypocrite. hahahaha...
Possibly, but:zwetschenwasser wrote:Furc, you active lurk. Deal with it. Pacman has scum on his wagon.Friend wrote:You can't say "Pacman has scum on his wagon" and then not name names.
This post IS active lurking. And scummy.Furcolow wrote:ok, well, i'm happy with a couple wagons rolling
and i still dont believe i actively lurk
i always post when i get on
plus it's good to pressure people the way ive been pressuring pacman for town imo
Guys, I might seem like tunneling, but that's it. Neither vezo nor mothrax need the noose yet (I see both them scummy, but not much; vezo has been lurking (inactive?) and wagon-hopping like hell, and I like Friend's (or who's?) case on mothrax). Furcolow has clearly earned it himself.-
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No sir, you can't use VItown as an excuse. If you know you're being a VI, you should have improved that playstyle a very long damn time ago.Furcolow wrote:VI town
That's what my playstyle appears regardless of my alignment
If you disagree with that, I'd like some insight so I can fix it.
I can see some differences myself, but I'm not sure if you really do, Judge.
You are not as above and beyond yourself as you might think.
You're still scummy to me.
I know I'm no perfect man, if that's what you mean. What made you think I thought I was?
I'm happy with my vote, but should I be forced to pick I'd pick mothrax.Friend wrote:
These people need to pick a wagon, preferably mothrax's.Vi wrote: Furcolow (L-5) ~ mothrax, pacman, Chronopie
Me=Weird (L-7) ~ Locke Lamora
Plum (L-7) ~ zwetschenwasser
Gotta reread Furc's last post in-depth. It seems to have some sense, but does have lots of AtE as well.-
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Yes I understand that he unvoted me.curiouskarmadog wrote:pacman, you understand that he unvoted you right, to join that bandwagon? strange that you are attacking for that, however, i get why you think vezo is scum...
Moth you need to claim now (if you havent already).
he is at -1..so wait for the claim to hammer.
That doesn't change the fact the vote is scummy (vote hopping much?)
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mothrax wrote:Just because I got a null track on him doesn't mean he is clean... could be a prless scum who didn't submit the kill... I am not going to ignore my reads on him when I am nt a cop, a nulltrack is not as clearing as an innocent.
Indeed, null track won't clear AGar.
preview edit: AGar is my number one scumread, however his lynch is unlikely as he seems to have backing from plum and no one else seems to want to contradict that little makeshift alliance.Whuh? I can't see such alliance. My read on AGar is null BTW if you ask me.Why vote for someone who has little chance of being lynched.Because you can't just go and vote someone you don't feel is scum. Just shifting your vote around won't help to your case, and makes you look scummy if you ask me.I figured if I saw him visit someone who turned up dead or someone who was blocked... etc... it would enable me to push his lynch much more actively.That's why trackers do track. However, tracking might bring lots of WIFOM after a claimed result on certain circumstances.
Furc is scumspect number two and the vote for him came after what looked(looks) like a large slip to me, but after it became apparent that lynch wasn't going to happen it was time to move on again.See above.
and no there was no crumb. something I am working on in my play is crumbing and softclaiming, not so great at it (i usually end up fullclaiming by the time anyone sees it) so I didn't even attempt it.No trouble I guess. Getting one of your breadcrumbs caught by scum might be quite nasty.-
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Whuh? I don't get it...mothrax wrote:re vote ablility: I didn't really read my abilities past those of the tracker other than skimming, and since I see voting listed as an ablity on other mod's role pms I assumed it was on this one as well... you know what they say about assuming.
Socrates, please tell me why if I am confirmed scum you did not push my lynch until after my claim? Opportunistic much? Want to get rid of a PR or am I getting to close to your buddies?
preview edit: yes I am at l-1
I think many people is falling into mod WIFOM here.
Socrates needs to explain why mothrax is obvscum, still. I just don't seem to get it, sorry.-
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Whoa... so I was wrong with moth...
*headdesk*
Huh?Chronopie wrote:I still don't get how the remaining battery power corrupts a player.
I'm thinking maybe we should try running the battery right down today and see what happens.
Not sure, but outguessing this way doesn't seem to be a good idea. I don't think batteries are affecting the lynches there.
Which was Fate's death flavor btw?AGar wrote: