SWN III: Dreamland Castle Is Under Siege (Halted, mod error)

[Mafuyu]

Two notes:

1. Mafuyu doesn't have a PR. At least, not one given by this game.
2. Lλδ probably doesn't have a PR, as the red/blue text is account-specific, not game-specific.

CMAR, your quoting Lλδ makes Mafuyu wonder, is your PR specifically based on color, or is the PR stemming from something like a murder mystery story? =P

[Mafuyu]

You're stretching, Ani. DH expressed obvopinion, and it's the fact that he said it, rather than the validity of the statement or the implications, that he's getting voted for. Easy mislynch claim leading to an easy mislynch wagon is amooooosin'.

[Mafuyu]

Neutral to the situation, TL?

[Mafuyu]

Because scum are going to want to be making sure everybody's keeping their options open to any possible reason someone could be scum.

If there is any little thing scum can slide in there to put doubt in anybody's mind, they'll use it.

Uhhhno. Open-mindedness is a good thing. Scum try to nudge players in specific directions. There is a difference. Doubt for the sake of doubt is a dead-end strategy.

[Mafuyu]

Fuck you Agar, Calculus bitch. =F

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu was joking, but duly noted.

[Mafuyu]

Vote Ani

Beep.

[Mafuyu]

AKA "Lack of reason sufficient to warrant expounding upon".

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu

- Why do you think Ani is scum? Are you suspicious of anyone else?

First question is denied an answer. As to the second: yes.

[Mafuyu]

To the first, did you not read what Mafuyu typed following the Ani vote?
To the second, everyone.

[Mafuyu]

that has got to be the most non-commital answer I've ever heard.

Well, it is.

[Mafuyu]

Yes. Just not now.

[Mafuyu]

That would be stupid of you to do, and petty.

[Mafuyu]

You picked up on a lack of content from someone posting in-thread. How does that compare to someone that doesn't post at all?

You're arguing semantics in lieu of a better choice of target.

[Mafuyu]

Reread.

TLcat needs to understand that LLD doesn't actually have a game-specific PR, and presumably still has the capacity to lie on red (noting that red could always be 'loosely' correct in the Uminekoverse regardless).

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu means Midwinter, but it would probably help the mod if you kept your votes separate of your post restriction.

Mafuyu's also interested that the PR-wagon and follow-up wagons dissolved so readily.

[Mafuyu]

Case in point, though you can still argue the direction of "Why didn't you answer the questions asked", which is quite perfectly valid.

[Mafuyu]

Isolation. Looking solely at one player's votes in hoping to catch some idea of stream of consciousness.

[Mafuyu]

posts, not votes. Sorry.

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu wasn't targeting you. Odd that you thought she did.

[Mafuyu]

It didn't need restating either.

[Mafuyu]

Vezok is being active.

This is a strange, strange thing.

[Mafuyu]

Do you happen to have an ace up your sleeve?
Is your inquiry coming up snake eyes?
Could Player X ante up and actually Y?

=P

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu already did, a good 2-3 posts AFTER the Ani vote. There is no sufficiently rational reason, and the lack of Ani posts in the interim make it hard for Mafuyu to change that gut feeling (or even reinforce it).

[Mafuyu]

No, that's a standard game progression behavior. Easy Lynch->WTFEasyLynchVOTE -> xMultiple -> Waitwut.
It shows up pretty often, especially D1.

[Mafuyu]

o.O

It's still a legitimate point.

[Mafuyu]

Normal =/= Wrong

[Mafuyu]

Incorrect. Stated directly to Parama that it wouldn't get explained, thus instigating the "OMG NONCONTRIBUTOR ACTIVE LURKER ANTI-TOWN" wagon. Before that point only Parama was inquiring, but Parama was inquiring things of everyone.

[Mafuyu]

Allo Reck. Stop showing up in Mafuyu's games; Mafuyu just might go insane.

Unvote

, the vote's lost its meager meaning.

[Mafuyu]

Just a gut read and an attempt to fish a reaction. Nothing really bit, other than the giant wagon afterwards which was bawwing over the wrong aspect of the vote.

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu has. You're just looking for blatant signs of scumhunting, which Mafuyu usually doesn't do. The opportunistic wagon was already noted in the LLD-Mafuyu interaction. Additionally, there was noting that Pacman seems to be self-absorbed and that the PR-based wagons vanished.

[Mafuyu]

Vote Katsuki

Spyre's got the gist of it pegged down.

[Mafuyu]

Aw come on Reck, you should know Mafuyu better than that by now.

[Mafuyu]

Isn't that statement more appropriate as blue?

[Mafuyu]

But what does it say that LL outright said it rather than implied it?

[Mafuyu]

Red = 'Truth'. Be wary of context and interpretations.
Blue = Truth until established otherwise. Also understood as Truth based on limited knowledge
Gold = SUPER TRUUUUUUUUTH.

[Mafuyu]

The problem is how Framm ends his posts. There are patchwork statements, dares, disinclinations to care, etc. It's a myriad of footnote emotions which don't serve any continuous purposes other than to just make him seem scummy (and therefore not?). It's a mess.

[Mafuyu]

Honestly, he might just be better as vig-bait.

[Mafuyu]

Framm's wagon seems too forced. You sure vigging isn't the more appropriate choice here?

[Mafuyu]

While vezok always makes a good 'kill now' account due to obscene lurking, Meh.

[Mafuyu]

Katsukiiiii.

Also, the implication Mafuyu is getting at is that a lynch caused by the way a player

continually

phrases things is usually indicative of strange play, especially when it doesn't have to relate to their respective PRs.

[Mafuyu]

mmm....gut?

[Mafuyu]

Framm has a magical ability to make even catch-up posts look scummy.
On a more interesting note.

Vote LLD

[Mafuyu]

LLD, it's general form to wait till L-2 or L-1. Generally, other players know to ease up on the wagon to allow for the claim. Doing so prematurely just makes you scummier for not allowing the wagon results to properly bloom.

[Mafuyu]

Don't you think treatment like that is why players leave the site?

To play advocate, shotty has self-hammered as town in obvious LyLo if memory serves correctly.

Unvote Vote LLD

[Mafuyu]

Because it doesn't. It was a holdover from a post a few posts back which, while also not having exactly relevant content, did in the context of what began to unfold.

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu's last C9++, modded by Ythan. He played idiot town the entire way through.

[Mafuyu]

Agar remembers the travesty.

[Mafuyu]

In the meantime, vote LLD.

[Mafuyu]

Hmm, why do people have scum reads on LLD anyways?

Also why isn't Mafuyu attracting more attention?

unvote, vote: Mafuyu

What's your reason for voting LLD, Mafuyu?

An account based on logic expressable through predefined red and blue truths....ditching that style except for fluff. Especially when in what was essentially a logical debate with another player.

[Mafuyu]

Unvote

This Kats wagon is awful 0_o

Vote: Lady Lambdadelta

much better

also reck, let's keep the bang bang to GP2 <<

I'm gonna ask the same question I asked Mafuyu. Reasoning?

Seriously folks, if your just gonna mindlessly follow a wagon, at least have some reason to sheep onto it.

Also, I have presented evidence against Katsuki, LONG BEFORE Reckoner took an intrest. No one fucking listened...

It helps to interpret subtext, which is also probably why you think Mafuyu's reasoning is 'just' the lack of red/blue. You're opting out of being a magnificent bastard with the potential of your play, or even being someone that just aggressively attacks people through faults in logic, by being meek.

It's not the lack of red/blue. It's what has replaced the red and blue in your activity.

[Mafuyu]

Parama, why are you only asking one player about Mafuyu? If you really want to push that wagon, shouldn't you appeal to more players?

[Mafuyu]

Also, why are you asking Pacman a question involving his reads of the game immediately after he admits to being behind and in need of catching up?

[Mafuyu]

Did you forget that it's impossible for me to give a straight answer what with my PR and all?

Did you know that Mafuyu's opinion on the matter is __________________ ?

[Mafuyu]

Alternatively, you could attempt to rebuke your wagon-voters.
You know, rather than be passive (which is partly why the wagon started to begin with).

[Mafuyu]

Get an e-Room, you two.

[Mafuyu]

To be honest, it IS kind of hard to take you two seriously when you're together. =P

[Mafuyu]

That'd be lovely, and kudos if you pull it off.

LLD needs to do interesting things.

[Mafuyu]

Because Reck and Dram know Mafuyu's gameplay far too well by this point, seeing as she's played with at least one of them in almost every game Mafuyu's played on this site. They apparently see something you don't.

[Mafuyu]

Hmm.

Mafuyu is perfectly willing to be copvigged by LLD. Along with Parama. This seems to be the best way to resolve the issue. The fact that he's suddenly jumped Mafuyu's ship, understanding that there is now the option of of having Mafuyu die without doing any work, is interesting.
Besides, if both Mafuyu and Parama survive the night anyway further interaction isn't likely to change. Might as well remove the distraction factors early.

Also keep in mind that the "Along with Parama" comment isn't a condition, it's a request. Pair up however you want.

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu thinks that you are pushing awfully hard without attempting to actually smear her. You just keep....inquiring opinions of others, without making a direct attack. Mafuyu isn't sure what your game is, or why.

[Mafuyu]

OOOH.

MAFUYU/SHOTTY.

IT MUST BE DONE.

[Mafuyu]

It's not the only one either. You're misinterpreting/misrepresenting Mafuyu as well. Calling people scum because of PR? You're reading only on the surface, and not even correctly at that. Mafuyu's mention of Framm and his end of post nonsense wasn't in direct reference to his PR. During that stage of posting, he was tacking things on along with or meshed in his PR that seemed like patchwork. It wasn't the PR but rather what he said, how he phrased it, and why he would bother doing so.

[Mafuyu]

Reck's. Yours might miss, and that would be bad.

[Mafuyu]

You know that only makes you sound....MORE like a serial killer. Right?

[Mafuyu]

Framm wagon, hooo!

Unvote Vote Framm

[Mafuyu]

....

=/

[Mafuyu]

Rehash the game in to Super SWNIII: Second Strike Turbo?

[Mafuyu]

Mafuyu's rehash comment was completely serious, by the way.