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Going to start to read this game, probably going to have to do it in parts….mostly this is for me (notes for later)…if I ask you are question it is with a “@”, since these reading post will probably be a wall of words, don’t worry about quoting. A cut and paste job with quotation marks will suffice. I type as a read, and will go back to edit if needed….here we go.
Going into the read knowing that wraith and fate are town.
Battery powered deadlines seem interesting, but I guess it gives scum the motivation to not post..
Day 1, random bullshit, Day 2 gets meater.
Post 50, 52vezokpiraka wrote:unvote
Vote furcolow
DIE SCUM DIE.
First scummy move that has jumped on my radar….there was nothing random about this vote. At all. Fur was getting heat atp (at this point) and he was jumping on a bandwagon. If you are bandwagoning, that is fine, but he is trying to paint it like it was random, which is an out and out lie.vezokpiraka wrote:Random vote. What do you want form me?
It's not like stuff happened already.
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Policy off the start is fine, but wanting to lynch someone by the end of the day based on this above reasoning is bad….baadd…animorpherv1 wrote:Yeah. That's why I wanna lynch him. His town play is really bad, and will cost us this game too,if we don't lynch him.
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Friend looks like he is trying to scum hunt. (page 3)
Keep waiting for a post from Furc stating “he is going to take his ball and go home”….sort of whining bud. (p3)
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Bold statement, atp I agree with though.Furcolow wrote:
I'm going to reiterate: If people start voting vezokpiraka, I guarantee a scum flip
I am actually sort of wondering why I wagon didn’t start on vezo. Note SP defends vezo in post (72)..interesting.
Furc just seems to be…meh, annoying maybe…though he looks town to me (2-4p), though I don’t understand his vote in 88, Furc, you are coming across as a VI…a giant VI.
I don’t agree with Seb’s assessment of Furc (4-5p), yeah I realize that is who I am replacing.
145, 147 made me laugh.Furcolow wrote: I am amazing in LyLo.
150, noting that Agar has confirmed atp, but little to no posts…(EDIT posts in 170)Furcolow wrote:I am very weak at scumhunting, because I do not trust my first instinct.
(EDIT 218)Vi wrote:-The smell of smoke surrounds animorpherv1 as of post 41...
-A warm light shines on Iecerint as of post 138!Vi wrote:
-The smell of smoke surrounds mothrax as of Post 184...
what does these mean?
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wtf?zwetschenwasser wrote:Message from Heaven: Hello, I can only talk normally like this one post every two hundred. Otherwise I post like below.
zwet<knowledge of day start
furcolow>wraith
wraith=furcolow cheapness
ergo
zwet=Vote: Wraith
Is one and only post in 200 is to vote someone who is town..noted.
162, 163Beefster wrote:I'm going to take a wild guess that there is another player with post restrictions like this- and one of those 2 is scum.
This exchange is interesting, not sure what to think of this or zwet.zwetschenwasser wrote:speculation < valuable
speculation < meaningful
speculation < thought out
ergo
Unvote; Vote: Beefster
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Ok, I am not sure why vezo survived Day 1.vezokpiraka wrote:I feel scum.
How can you vote after 4 votes in random?
I voted furcolow. I provided 114 for scum meta.
Wraith and Agar are probably scums.
unvote vote Agar
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Furc (1-8p) I don’t think I care for your play style…you fucking cant whine for 8 pages then tell people to “shut up”…you got to be like 14?...if you are, nevermind, I get it.
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Atp, I am pretty sure that vezo is scum, also zwet and SP is dinging my dar.
@zwet, what happens if you don’t follow your PR? (if this is answered later in the game), just post the number.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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Ok, got a little more time to read, typing as I am going, left off at page 10, starting page 11.
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strange statement, atp in the game, I found vezok leading in scumminess.pacman281292 wrote:Well, I have no idea about why did vezok ping into my scumdar. He has posted nothing yet
But, why did AGar vote him?
Page 12-13 friend and fate(town) go back in forth. In friend’s defense, I don’t have a clue what fate is talking about and he is coming off like a VI.
jesus fucking christ….you should be embarrassed by your play this far in the game.Furcolow wrote:vote: furcolow
you are a terrible player
Guess he trys to explain his actions in 305
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a claim already? I don’t think he is scum, just a really really horrible player…now he could be a horrible player as scum, but I am doubting it. There is absolutely nothing good about your play if you are town..NOTHINGFurcolow wrote:ok, guys, i'm going to go ahead and claim
I am just a townie. This wagon on me will be a mislynch if I am lynched. I wanted to act blue and draw a hit to help our team, but this pressure is unfounded and unwanted.
Page 14, wraith(town) starts to get steam.
346, SP vote
348, Iec vote
349, Friend vote
352, Fate (town)
358, Socrates, vote
With no real reason.
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What reason? Moth thinks this is a good wagon have the rush of 5 votes?....bullshit, scum meter just bounced a little here.mothrax wrote:Wraith's play as of late does not sit well with me... as has been pointed out by others.
Unvote, Vote: Wraith
I think the Vezo wagon developing at the end of page 17 (but I know it doesn’t go anywhere)
As of 428, vezo and wraith are both at -3, what changed?
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Just noting, might be the tipping vote.Friend wrote:After that votecount, I'm a whoooole lot more comfortable being with the people on the Wraith wagon than the vezo wagon.
unvote, vote: Wraith
Zwet, in 442.
453...interesting.
488, Socio, with a fake hammer?....if that is what he was doing, it was a cool move…but anyone with a brain knew he was already on the wagon….zwetschenwasser wrote:Ok, so I received a PM from the mod that my latent abilities will be replaced by new active abilities come the beginning of day 2. I can only assume this came from an action on the part of someone else. For the record, my latent abilities were the PR and the red-posting. I still don't know what the active abilities will be. I'm still forbidden to claim.
Pac hammers in 530, with horrid reasoning
UH, WHAT?..lol, game is nightless?..time to reread the rules.
“. What is it? Something that doesn't apply to this game. This game is Instant Night.”
“5. Can the Mafia talk to each other during the Day? Yes.”
Ok........so Fate probably scared someone, because he wasn’t looking like a townie to me atp.
EDIT: Fate threatened Vezo, and then Furc..with vigging...
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noted....so i guess i am to assume that if you went by your PR for a day, you got some abilityzwetschenwasser wrote:I can speak now! Hurray!
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yeah, M=W is giving you bad vibes, but you will join him on the biggest wagon anyway....WHY IS THIS PLAYER NOT LYNCHED!?!?! Actions speak louder than words.vezokpiraka wrote:Me=Weird is giving me bad vibes.
He is for a furc lynch even when he say yesterday I have to die. For now furc is scummiest. This may change though.
Vote Furcolow
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Just going to break the reread so this isn’t a huge post. (end page 23)
at this point, I am pretty sure Vezo is scum, moth looks scummy, and now Friend, pac and zwet are rubbing me wrong....yeah, i know it is a fucking giant net, hoping I can narrow down before I finish.....right now, in this read, vezo should be the leading wagon, yet looking at current voting...not happening...cant wait to see why.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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game link please..zwetschenwasser wrote:vezok is playing to town meta.
(entire game) Furc, it is really hard to read you..town or scum, you are just a bad player…
I replace in 649.
I am feeling Plum’s frustration and beginning to see why Ani replaced out.
OMG, there are so many silly ass bullshit posts.
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Sooo, your PR was removed, but you don’t know why….but you cant claim….not asking you to, but what happens if you do? What happens if you claim what you are not?zwetschenwasser wrote:my PR was removed by circumstances unbeknownst to me. I am forbidden to claim until the mod tells me I can, and I can tell you that I am not the physical manifestation of anything (which narrows it down a lot, obviously)
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@ friend, what is your case on Seb…if you felt he was scummy all this time, why not vote him versus all of your other vote hopping? How was Seb play scummy…his ISO was a couple posts, so it shouldn’t be hard to come up with a couple points. Also, Zwet was asking you for a direct answer, and instead of helping him scum hunt, you avoid and don’t answer the question directly, how is that pro-town?
Uhhhh, Chrono replaces in 805 (1:54pm), and is caught up an hour later….wtf? am I a slow reader?
Ok, caught up…
Going to meta Vezo really fast.
Most likely my vote will fall on Vezo….but it can easily be on Friend…..moth still looks scummy as well, the others (pac and zwet) are dropped to neutral.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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well shit, if you go by a quick meta, it appears that Vezo's play is indeed town..
as scum, he did not vote as much (could only find one game) and appeared to be reserved getting involved with wagons. As town, or even a town power role, he tends to vote hop....adding more content if he is a power role then a vanilla...going to look a little more closely..and reread him in this game. My gut says he is scum, but this meta does say otherwise...
not going to vote quite yet....also want to look over friend and moth again....should be voting today or tomorrow.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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or someone thinks your a right about it...someone not being the mod....or maybe scum, leading you astray....or maybe light and smoke mean something else entirely.
or maybe it IS just flavor.
....but you think it is a good move to base assumptions and votes on it right, with little to no knowledge on the subject when there is so much more to go on. not a protown move. you really want us to believe that you think the mod would give away alignments in this way?...really?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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again you are assuming way too much...unless you have some knowledge no one else has....maybe they (or one) could be scum, that dont count toward totals....maybe they have a different type of win condition, you win if town wins the game..or you win if scum wins the game....think about it...there are evil and good presences that dont direct control on us, but can influence or mislead..or whatever.Friend wrote:I don't, but the mod has said they are unlynchable and untargetable. Unlynchable and untargetable scum = instawin.
I seriously doubt that you have not considered any of this...
especially on day 2, you should be scum hunting, not looking toward the "gods" for help...
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you went from,
tomothrax wrote:
And I have been very vocal about having a scumread on AGar since D1. Why not track my biggest suspect.
so the fact you "track" him and you didnt see him do anything, made you suspect him more?mothrax wrote:while I didn't come out and directly call him scum, I did want to keep an eye on him, both litrally and figuratively. As for d2, reread my list of scumspects... a majority of my posts not concerning furcolow have been concerning AGar.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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these are the posts that you "were vocal about"? about on day 1.
mothrax wrote:AGar,I am curious, If I were to "me too" vote and follow you would you be any less of an asswhole? I see you do it all the time, you just use more words than I do. Sorry, not in the habit of posting Wall o' Texts, never will unless it is an ISO.mothrax wrote:yes AGar, you followed the wagon on wraith when your vezo push didn't work out and your most recent vote on vezo comes right after a vote on vezo from plum.
and it comes with only this under a bunch of "Plum is Good"
I call that "me too"
If so, I agree quite wholeheartedly with that. Actually, I can agree with that statement in regards to almost all of his posts.
Friend wagon fizzles, and I'm not gonna stick with my vote on a dead wagon when scum's a ripe for lynchin'.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: vezokpiraka
Also, to say I am butthurt implies that I give a rats ass. I play mafia for fun, not out of some latent need to assert my badassedness. So we're here for different reasons, I just wanted to know if I needed gloves to stop the constant facepalms from bruising.mothrax wrote:Apologies AGar, I misread the votecount. When I said wraith I meant friennnd. Just pointing out your buddying to plum.
also, yout 10th post was...
uhhhh?mothrax wrote:VOTE: furcolow
his seeking approval strikes me as trying to distance homself from a mislynch.
your vote was on Fur before you jumped on the wraith wagon...why not track him?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I agree with this statement.Friend wrote:Furc is pretty definitely VI-town IMO. Vezo is not. Vezo is very possibly VI-scum. But...
the vote that followed i am iffy on, but rather a wagon on pac than Furc.
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so much work on graphs, so little work on answering questions.Socrates wrote:X-axes are post numbers, Y-axes is total number of votes. Each color represents a different person.
what your graphs dont show, is my questioning I asked at the end of the day and your late arrival to the wagon...I would have revoted him, but I had signed off for the day and wanted him to answer my questions to be sure. Speaking of counter wagons, where was your vote for most of the day while the moth wagon was gaining steam(hint I know the answer to the question)?
do you think graphs are good ways to catch scum? have you ever used graphs before (as scum)? Given your voting history yesterday do you think you look scummy? Can you please redo the graph with your voting pattern.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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just skimming right now..I didnt see the "me" in the chart....anyway, have more I want to say...but cant at the moment....not sure I understand the Pac wagon right now, wasnt he the counter wagon yesterday?....people think we were that good to have caught two scum yesterday?....not buying it, and not buying the wagon....
need to catch up...hoping to do so in the next 48
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please give me sometime to comment....I am trying, but super busy.
I seriously doubt that we were able to correctly point out two scum yesterday..pac was the competing wagon (if you guys remember).
also Furc, why are you asking?...if he flips town, it gives you a way to say "hey, i asked and you said it was okay"...if you think he is scum, hammer, if not, dont....you need to take ownership of your vote, not pass the buck....scum points for youNO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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what is your point about information on your lynch? Why exactly do you think there will be no information provided by your flip?Locke Lamora wrote:My defence of what, CKD? I was just asking Furc what information he'd get from my lynch. That wasn't a defence. I must have missed the part of the wagon where there were any questions for me or attacks made against me, other than Plum saying I haven't contributed much, which is fair.
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jesus I must be stupid, because I a.) am not exactly sure what the fuck you just said and b.) and am amused by the hypocrisy of the post.vezokpiraka wrote:Claim. And die.
CKD. Do you understand how stupid it is to ask someone who doesn't want to claim and has been called obvtown?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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so instead of answering my question you vote me?
try again, why are you defending your locke vote here instead of explaining why you think he is scummy.
what about me on "this page" do you find scummy?
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funny when people vote, they usually explain why a person is scummy, why are you defending your vote?Furcolow wrote:unvote;
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answer the questions.
curiouskarmadog wrote:so instead of answering my question you vote me?
try again, why are you defending your locke vote here instead of explaining why you think he is scummy.
what about me on "this page" do you find scummy?
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funny when people vote, they usually explain why a person is scummy, why are you defending your vote?Furcolow wrote:unvote;
vote: locke lamora
been suspicious off locke since RVS, multiple FoS from me i'm pretty surecuriouskarmadog wrote:also, you put him at -2, why did you not expect him to get to -1?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I have seen you play before as a mod and as a player. I have seen you mod a game. You are a decent player and I feel you have some good instincts. Also I feel like you are analytical...Plum wrote:Hey CKD. What was up in your head when you posted this?:
curiouskarmadog wrote:vote plum
I gots a feeling, plum, would you characterize yourself as a good scum hunter? why or why not?
I am not seeing any of that in this game. thus "my feeling"....I still have that feeling, but your answer didnt seem scummy aannnnd, I am barking up other trees to see what scum bags fall out.
also, for whatever reason....the fact that you are bringing it back up (right now) seems non-scummish...Scum, would probably let my vote/unvote go and be joyful the heat was gone. Unless of course, you are prideful and you feel like you got an awesome scum game and are just curious as to what I was picking up on.....but if that was the case you could just ask me after the game.
(shrug)....short answer, scum hunting.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I agree that one of the following is a correct statement.
I am leaning that he is just a bad player....going to reread...something about Iece is bothering me...going to check back when he was "following" my lead with his vote...not sure what about my play gave him such confidence about my alignment.AGar wrote: Terrible playing.
Scummy player.
VOTE: FurcolowNO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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