Alphabet Mafia (Gamer Over, Joy Up!)

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FRIEND PLEASE GIVE ME THE PLEASURE OF BEING ABLE TO LYNCH BENSCUM.
PLEASE.

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FRIEND. I AM FUCKING TOWN. PLEASE CAN WE LYNCH BENMAGE FIRST. I WILL BE FUCKING FURIOUS IF THAT TOSSER IS ALLOWED TO GET A MISLYNCH ON ME WHEN HE'S SCUM.

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OH. AND YOU *KNOW* THAT I'M TOWN BECAUSE YOU'VE READ ME AS TOWN THE WHOLE GODDAMNED GAME. DON'T SWITCH NOW.

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gandalf. Let's lynch Benmage.

I'd much rather lynch Kai, but since I think we're looking for 2 scum I can settle with Reck...especially since it looks like hes flailing for a personal lynch. Anyone of any sort of intelligence would have me known confirmed.

HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU CONFIRMED? PLEASE, TELL ME HOW.

Here's the kicker of it all: I can fucking confirm if Kairyuu is scum or not. HERE'S HOW!
He targets me with his claimed ability. Since I'm assuming scum can only use one active ability per night (like in most of dramonic's games), then I will steal his ability. If I end up with this role copping ability, it means Kairyuu used role cop. If Kairyuu uses role cop and there is no kill, then he's not cleared. If Kairyuu uses role cop and there IS a kill, then he is clear.

There's literally no risk in this plan.

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But I'm NOT SCUM.
This plan has to have more validity than just "We're going to lynch at random until we hit scum". If we lynch me today, then it's 5:1:1. That puts you guys in 3:1:1 tomorrow, and if you hit wrong again, then it's 2:1:1 with the possibility for a loss. I don't want that. At least give me the pleasure of going into tonight 6:1 by lynching scum today. Then you can mislynch me tomorrow all you want to. At least let me go to the noose with the security that it's going to be impossible to fuck this up.

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Note that while I'd like to lynch Benmage today, I would lynch Kairyuu as well, as I believe they are the final two scums. Just know that if we lynch Kairyuu there's no way for me to confirm his ability tonight. Also, Benmage keeps on saying he's confirmed... which isn't true.

BENMAGE. ARE YOU STILL A LOVERMAKER Y/N?

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I'm not sure on the mechanics of your role. It's possible, I suppose, that your role as scum would break the game. Hmm.

Vote: Kairyuu

, then. I'm going to need someone with more brainpower (and time) than me to figure out if it's possible for Benmage to be scum without his role completely breaking the game. If he's not scum (as in, if there's no way he could be scum without the mod being dumb, and I know the mod isn't), then it's Kairyuu & Pacman. Pacman is role confirmed, but not alignment confirmed (same goes with Benmage, I suppose, but eh.)

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I'm not outguessing the mod. I'm saying literally every game I've seen dramonic mod has the only one active ability per day/night clause in the PM somewhere.
Letting Kai live is stupid if he's scum. What the hell kind of logic is that? We lynch Kai today, because Benmage has a point about the game being broken if he is scum.

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Because this would be a random time to decide to scrap it?
Especially when we've been writing role PMs for our upcoming theme game recently and we've used that very clause?
But, whatever, it doesn't matter. We're going to lynch Kai anyway so that clause doesn't matter.

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KAI. YOU ARE NOT CONFIRMED.

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I'm okay with the replacement idea.

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Why am I so fucking conflicted right now?
I could really dig a pacman lynch, because his post WAS terribad...but that would mean one of Kairyuu & Benmage is town which hurts my head to consider.

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Holy shit, it IS Pacman & Kairyuu.

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Benmage didn't have a night action though. I thought he was a day lovermaker.

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...
-UC- YOU ---U-!

Fuck you Freud?
Oh please, like you DIDN'T mean to do that

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Vote: Pacman

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It's not me.

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Well it's either Pacman or Benmage. I think Pacman's role is more likely to be scum than Benmage's role.

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By the way - I just realized that as long as I'm alive, mafia can't win. Even if they somehow got it down to a two person endgame between me and them, if they tried to kill me, I would steal their kill and town would win.

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If it's endgame and I'm still alive,

town cannot lose

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Reck: Rolethief
Benmage: One-shot lover maker
Tazaro: Innocent Child
Pacman: One-shot reviver
Gandalf: Commuter
Triglav: Monitor

Just for reference. Now, who is ALIGNMENT CONFIRMED, and HOW DO WE KNOW?

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Actually, you know what.

Unvote vote Triglav.

This is something I was also looking at...

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Reck: Rolethief
Benmage: One-shot lover maker
Tazaro: Innocent Child
Pacman: One-shot reviver
Gandalf: Commuter
Triglav: Monitor

I'm starting to think there's really no way Benmage can be scum, here. Dram isn't retarded - he wouldn't make a role that could fuck up endgame and give scum an unfair advantage. One shot reviver COULD be scum, simply because it'd be an easy "Look! I'm town!" type thing and give scum an easy fakeclaim.

Once again - where did we have alignment confirmations on players? Tazaro was mod-confirmed, why isn't gandalf a possibility again? I'm just trying to work this from the ground up and make sure we haven't accidentally cleared the final scum.

Unvote

for now

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WHAT ABOUT THE FACT THAT BEN'S ROLE WOULD BREAK THE GAME IN FAVOR OF SCUM IN ENDGAME?

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Hmmm. Would Kairyuu gain anything from lying about his results? Like, if he claimed scum was actually town, then he'd know who the final scum was.

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Not lynching Benmage today. I'll lynch Pacman though.

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We should nolynch today or tomorrow. Probably tomorrow if we're wrong today. Tazaro dies overnight anyway.

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Vote: gandalf5166

How is a commuter pro-town, again?
My scummiest read is still on Benmage but my willingness to keep him alive is based solely on the fact that dram wouldn't make a scum lovermaker IMO.

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Seriously, hold on. I need to think about this. I think gandalf is scum. I don't feel like trying to find DGB's results or Kairyuu's results to confirm my theory, though.
If it's not gandalf, it's Benmage. His role is more likely to be in scum hands than Pacman's is, in retrospect.

ARLKJAS;DLKFJ;ALKSDJFA I HATE THIS MY MIND KEEPS JUMPING BACK AND FORTH

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I retract my statement about lynching Pacman. One-shot reviver, plus uhhhhm he's screaming at everyone to scumhunt whereas scum would probably just go with the quicklynches. Yeup.

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WHY ARE MORE PEOPLE NOT ONLINE AND JUMPING ON MY GANDALF THING

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Okay, let's break this shit down. It's 3:45am and I'M WILLING TO MAKE CASES to show you guys something. I also think I just figured out how to break this game wide open.

FIRST THING'S FIRST: Tazaro is confirmed town, and I am town.
This leaves BENMAGE, PACMAN, GANDALF, AND TRIGLAV.

Let me say this:

Triglav is town

. Dram is really good with balance, and one scumteam having inside setup knowledge would not fit his balancing style.

This brings us to the final three people: Pacman, Benmage, and Gandalf. Here's how I think I can break the game. Anyone remember Fate's flip?

Vowel Lyncher

. The vowels that have flipped so far would be "I" (purple scum), and "E" (town). This leaves "O" (me), "U" (Benmage), and "A" (Gandalf).
NO WAY are all of the vowels town when there was already a vowel on the purple scumteam. There's just no fucking way. ONE of the final vowels has to be scum.
I know it's not me.
Benmage's role would be broken in scum's hands, IMO.

Therefore, it's gandalf.

NOW PLEASE VOTE ACCORDINGLY.

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Plus... I'm sorry, but commuter makes WAY too much sense as the final scum power. Lovermaker? Nope. One-shot reviver? How is that useful to scum. Monitor? See above post about balancing issues. This, coupled with the vowel thing, means either me or gandalf (because let's admit, my role COULD work from a scum perspective).

It's gandalf.

It's fucking gandalf.

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE

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I can go with Kai not getting alignment. He is a "rolecop" after all. I think that the vowel thing is stupid because dram is smart enough to not make the scum catchable through a nameclaim.

But dram is also smart enough to not make a lyncher who is lyncher to ONE purple scum and FOUR townies, and ZERO red scum.

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Maybe you should have looked back for Kai and DGB's results. Kai confirmed me town yesterday, and DGB said I had a 0% chance of being red scum.

1) Kai was scum and we couldn't trust his results 100%.
2) DGB is capable of making an error (as she CLEARLY did many times)

The vowel thing is just stupid. And didn't Kai already cover that brokenscumrole=/= town? Also, I believe the theory on Pac is that he's a JOAT.

The vowel thing IS NOT STUPID. You can't just DISREGARD A LOGICAL CONCLUSION by saying it's stupid. This is even MORE fucking evidence that you're scum, because instead of giving the theory some validity and going "Yeah, that makes perfect sense, now let's lynch Benmage or Reck since they're vowels", you're COMPLETELY disregarding it because you know it would end with you getting lynched and losing the game.

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Now, gandalf is forced to declare me town instead of scum at the risk of making himself look even scummier, but he can't just have ONE target, so he had to throw in Pacman - despite not ever having a case on him, and still blatantly ignoring the vowel lyncher conundrum.

By my count, that's three votes on gandalf.
Hammer for the epic town victory, please.

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Uh, yes, why would scum be a reviver, or even if they were, CLAIM reviver? Reviver is a town role. Deal with it. Your case that you made

six fucking days ago

doesn't hold any water now.

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Reck's unofficial vote count (that is 100% accurate)-

pacman (1): gandalf
Benmage (1): pacman
gandalf (1): Reck, Benmage, Tazaro

Not voting (2): Triglav

PACMAN. TRIGLAV. HAMMER GANDALF FOR THE MOTHERFUCKING WIN.

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No, gandaf, I am saying a case based solely on D1 things is completely fucking dated on DAY EIGHT. You are just being lazy going "Oh yeah, uhh, I made a case on Pacman, like, at the start of the game."

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HEY GANDALF

I'D HATE TO BE THE ONE TO BREAK THIS TO YOU, BUT...

YOU. ARE NOT. FUCKING OBVTOWN. BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.

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Townies do not say what you are saying.

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NOBODY EVER TARGETED ME >:(

AND YAY FOR THE TOWN WIN! WHOOOOO!

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NO YOU DIDN'T

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sweetie?
can we haz quicktopics?

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dead topic -_-

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HERP DERP DERP DERP
People insinuating I'm dumb in the deadtopic.
Assssshoooolllesssss

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Just wanted to say that I had switched gears to gandalf before I even figured out the vowel lyncher thing
FUCK ALL YALL

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I did notice!