Civilization Mafia - Town Wins!

[Mastermind of Sin]

break break break break!

[Mastermind of Sin]

aargh! mind...overflowing...can't....think....nothing....to contribute.....won't....vote swinkee....don't see....good enough....reasoning....must....reread....this weekend....*collapse*

[Mastermind of Sin]

MoS:
Why oh why must you lurk, especially with a deadline? I’m just looking over the posts that you’ve been making in quite a number of other threads this past week, which include signing up for 3 mishmash games and a theme game, and which don’t include using lurking as an excuse for not contributing in any other game. I’m inclined to think N128 the exception that proves the rule.

I don't really consider Mishmash games to be a part of my game count, EMP. And if you actually bothered to look around, you'd know that I've been an innocent lurker in more games than just N128 lately.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Sorry Puzzle... but suddenly coming out of the woodwork when you've been sprung for lurking is a scum tell.

vote: dybeck

cut the crap. just because someone happens to check the thread right after a post is directed at them and they have time to post a response doesn't in any way shape or form mean they are scum. I'm freaking tired of people getting lynched on day 1 because they have a life. It's one thing to prod someone until they start posting. It's another thing to lynch them BECAUSE THEY RESPONDED TO THE PRODS. What incentive is there for a lurker to post at all when they have the chance anymore if they are going to be lynched whether or not they post? This is ridiculous.

[Mastermind of Sin]

somehow I doubt that

[Mastermind of Sin]

If you've "got a life", then make sure to check in once every three days or so. Or don't sign up for games (including Mish Mash)... cut the crap yourself, MoS.

Unvote: d_rouge, Vote: Mastermind of Sin

Sometimes it just can't be done, Mr. Flay.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I'm inclined to believe that lurkers who post after being called out are ten times scummier than those that continue to lurk. They're much more likely to be scum, rather than absentees.

That is not helpful. [/BJ]

Excuse me??

So you're saying that you would rather that lurkers keep lurking and never try to contribute? That's not a very protown attitude.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Yeah we already had that discussion. You never understood it the first time around - I don't see why you're likely to be any smarter now.

All I was trying to present by resurrecting that post was the fact that I am not Patient Zero with the BJ-itis!!!!

Please keep the game civil. I'd hate to have to make this personal. You have yet to provide a valid, logical argument to support your case, which is why I still don't like your stance.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Puzzle: 1 Vesuvan: 0

unvote, vote: Swinkee

[Mastermind of Sin]

i thought after allthe games ive been in with Vesuvan, he would have figured it out by now.

raj=town
raj=gets bored easily
raj=doesnt like extreamly long days
raj=gets killed
raj=role is revealed as pro town

you forgot one

raj=likes to go after protown players a lot

[Mastermind of Sin]

I find this whole game really confusing - am I the only one?

no, I'm confused, too. I can handle lots of shorter posts that have content, but those posts are huge!

[Mastermind of Sin]

why?

[Mastermind of Sin]

I still think we've got a lurker problem, but IF enough people can agree on my possible townieness, then wouldn't it be worth looking at my wagon for info, mmhhh ?
By the way, guys, a wagon taking off to 7 in 2 pages seems really fast to me.

Puzzle: 7 (Vesuvan, armlx, rajrhcpfreak, Mr. Flay, inHimshallibe, Thok, HezLucky)

Of these:
Vesuvan : started the wagon by what I think to be quite an overstated case. However, if Rajrhcpfreak is scum (see below), I doubt he would have jumped on a fellow scum wagon like he did.
Armlx : I know Armlx to behave regularly like he did, which earned him quite a few day 1 lynches before.

Rajrhcpfreak :

wagonning on no-lynch with 0 personal input + against all-cop + wagonning on me with 0 personal input as 3rd (oh, a tell...) = scummy to me.
Mr. Flay : seems to have thought well (better than me) of how the town manages units. Although I don't think the argument proves much on my alignment, it underlines his center of interest, making him more townish. Additionally, he helped pushing the all-cop and no-No-Lynch, if I remember well.
Inhim : seemed genuinely to see my points against Vesuvan's arguments and refused to join (even voting Mr Flay). Then, when understanding Mr Flay, votes me. He didn't seem eager to wagon for the sake of wagonning : townish.

Thok

: much has already been said about him. His behaviour on my wagon reeks more of scum pushing it to get a lynch than townie analyzing it and coming to a conclusion, imho. i may want to make a re-read on him first, though. Look at #282 : he wagons, but doesn't seem to see Mr Flay's point anymore than me ("it feels like his most recent comments about unit development are an attempt to change discussion"), just saying I ignored comments although I spent quite a bit of time answering everything I could. So, he wagons but doesn't actually bring a valid reason.
HezLucky : no actual reason to suspect him. Barning Mr Flay and Inhim.

Looking at the whole picture, that would make scums in 3rd and 6th position : quite like what I'd expect Mafia to do, personally.

So, for now,

vote Thok

. I could vote Rajr too, and would say that to me either Rajrhcpfreak is scum, or Vesuvan, but not both (not a false dilemna, just analysis of #250 : I doubt a scum would wagon with another one as 1st and 3rd vote in such a manner.
Still, Vesuvan redirecting the heat to EmpTyger, when some people confirms my info matches their PMs and when Emptyger is after Thok, doesn't help me choosing between him and Rajrhcpfreak. This is why I'd rather begin with Thok.

sounds like a good place to start, though the methodical elimination of your list so far (through lynch and nk) makes me wary of you yourself. However, it's early in the day and I'm willing to see where this goes.

vote: rajr

[Mastermind of Sin]

the longer we wait to claim, the more time the scum have to figure out what investigation claims will be the most believable. This will just hurt the town even more. It's the same principle as in dethy, where the scum try to claim last so they can fit their results with everyone else's. However, that doesn't work in dethy usually, because ppl go after others who do that. It WOULD work here, however. We can't let that happen. We should reveal all now.

[Mastermind of Sin]

unvote

, in favor of mass reveal first.

[Mastermind of Sin]

ok this is my problem. what if the list that is made give the scum the last chance to claim?

i dont know if i can trust anyone to make the list.

ps i love jsut reading mine and MOS's avatars together.

i have the answer!

Original Roll String: 1d16

1 16-Sided Dice: (12) = 12

Original Roll String: 1d15

1 15-Sided Dice: (13) = 13

Original Roll String: 1d14

1 14-Sided Dice: (10) = 10

Original Roll String: 1d13

1 13-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

Original Roll String: 1d12

1 12-Sided Dice: (6) = 6

Original Roll String: 1d11

1 11-Sided Dice: (9) = 9

Original Roll String: 1d10

1 10-Sided Dice: (5) = 5

Original Roll String: 1d9

1 9-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

Original Roll String: 1d8

1 8-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

Original Roll String: 1d7

1 7-Sided Dice: (4) = 4

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

Original Roll String: 1d5

1 5-Sided Dice: (3) = 3

Original Roll String: 1d4

1 4-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

Original Roll String: 1d3

1 3-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

Original Roll String: 1d2

1 2-Sided Dice: (2) = 2

[Mastermind of Sin]

Warning: Long Post Ahead. To Get To The Relevant Information, Scroll Down To The Bottom Of The Post.

inHimshallibe
VisMaior
Astronaut
dybeck
d_rouge
Puzzle
darquiel (replaces rolandofthewhite)
Tyfo (replaces swinkee)
HezLucky
rajrhcpfreak
Bamboomancer
armlx
Mastermind of Sin
Mr. Flay
d8P (replaces mlaker)
Iammars
Thok

remove armlx because he already claimed:

inHimshallibe
VisMaior
Astronaut
dybeck
d_rouge
Puzzle
darquiel (replaces rolandofthewhite)
Tyfo (replaces swinkee)
HezLucky
rajrhcpfreak
Bamboomancer
Mastermind of Sin
Mr. Flay
d8P (replaces mlaker)
Iammars
Thok

10 was rolled, so

rajrhcpfreak

is first.

inHimshallibe
VisMaior
Astronaut
dybeck
d_rouge
Puzzle
darquiel (replaces rolandofthewhite)
Tyfo (replaces swinkee)
HezLucky
Bamboomancer
Mastermind of Sin
Mr. Flay
d8P (replaces mlaker)
Iammars
Thok

3 is rolled, so

astronaut

is next

inHimshallibe
VisMaior
dybeck
d_rouge
Puzzle
darquiel (replaces rolandofthewhite)
Tyfo (replaces swinkee)
HezLucky
Bamboomancer
Mastermind of Sin
Mr. Flay
d8P (replaces mlaker)
Iammars
Thok


3 was rolled again, so

dybeck

is next

inHimshallibe
VisMaior
d_rouge
Puzzle
darquiel (replaces rolandofthewhite)
Tyfo (replaces swinkee)
HezLucky
Bamboomancer
Mastermind of Sin
Mr. Flay
d8P (replaces mlaker)
Iammars
Thok

10 rolled, so

Mr. Flay

is up.

inHimshallibe
VisMaior
d_rouge
Puzzle
darquiel (replaces rolandofthewhite)
Tyfo (replaces swinkee)
HezLucky
Bamboomancer
Mastermind of Sin
d8P (replaces mlaker)
Iammars
Thok

7 -

Bamboomancer

inHimshallibe
VisMaior
d_rouge
Puzzle
darquiel (replaces rolandofthewhite)
Tyfo (replaces swinkee)
HezLucky
Mastermind of Sin
d8P (replaces mlaker)
Iammars
Thok

3 -

drouge

inHimshallibe
VisMaior
Puzzle
darquiel (replaces rolandofthewhite)
Tyfo (replaces swinkee)
HezLucky
Mastermind of Sin
d8P (replaces mlaker)
Iammars
Thok

8 -

d8P

inHimshallibe
VisMaior
Puzzle
darquiel (replaces rolandofthewhite)
Tyfo (replaces swinkee)
HezLucky
Mastermind of Sin
Iammars
Thok

1 -

inhimshallibe

VisMaior
Puzzle
darquiel (replaces rolandofthewhite)
Tyfo (replaces swinkee)
HezLucky
Mastermind of Sin
Iammars
Thok

8 -

Thok

VisMaior
Puzzle
darquiel (replaces rolandofthewhite)
Tyfo (replaces swinkee)
HezLucky
Mastermind of Sin
Iammars

6 -

Mastermind of Sin

VisMaior
Puzzle
darquiel (replaces rolandofthewhite)
Tyfo (replaces swinkee)
HezLucky
Iammars

4 -

Tyfo

VisMaior
Puzzle
darquiel (replaces rolandofthewhite)
HezLucky
Iammars

4 -

Hezlucky

VisMaior
Puzzle
darquiel (replaces rolandofthewhite)
Iammars

3 -

darquiel

VisMaior
Puzzle
Iammars

2 -

Puzzle

VisMaior
Iammars

2 -

Iammars

That leaves:

VisMaior

to go last.

This means our final, completely random list is as follows:

rajrhcpfreak
astronaut
dybeck
Mr. Flay
Bamboomancer
drouge
d8P
inhimshallibe
Thok
Mastermind of Sin
Tyfo
Hezlucky
darquiel
Puzzle
Iammars
VisMaior

I'll get my claim out of the way, though, because I forgot we were doing the cop plan and didn't investigate anyone last night. My apologies. So, you can remove me from the claim list.

The Investigation Claim Order:

rajrhcpfreak
astronaut
dybeck
Mr. Flay
Bamboomancer
drouge
d8P
inhimshallibe
Thok
Tyfo
Hezlucky
darquiel
Puzzle
Iammars
VisMaior

[Mastermind of Sin]

oh sry.

[Mastermind of Sin]

rofl.

[Mastermind of Sin]

No new info from me.

Sorry... nothing from me.

rofl.

Your sense of humour works in mysterious ways I shall not even try to comprehend.

I don't have a sense of humour. My sense is spelled "humor"

[Mastermind of Sin]

On the contrary. I think it explains an awful lot.

agreed

[Mastermind of Sin]

On the contrary. I think it explains an awful lot.

agreed

well yeeeeehaaawww skippyaiyay!

[Mastermind of Sin]

yeah. the list is guaranteed random using the forum's dice function.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I agree with astro. the scum either have to try and give an innocent result on a buddy, which we'll find out eventually, or they have to give an innocent result on an actual innocent, which will help us anyways.

[Mastermind of Sin]

wow, this whole thread is reeking of scumminess. Everyone is attacking astronaut, even though he's got a good idea going here. There is no good reason to not reveal results.

[Mastermind of Sin]

nothing here, either

[Mastermind of Sin]

*bump*

[Mastermind of Sin]

hai!

[Mastermind of Sin]

The many noresults are somewhat suspicious. A grandpa role maybe? Or sanity issues?

how about that fact that everyone has a really low chance of getting a result since they are in the first age???

[Mastermind of Sin]

*bump*

[Mastermind of Sin]

Was an 8-hour *bump* without anything else really necessary?

Looking at your sig... are you Pot or Kettle?

what sig?

[Mastermind of Sin]

lol, if only sigs still showed up by each post

[Mastermind of Sin]

not for me....

[Mastermind of Sin]

grrr, somehow mine got turned off...I definitely didn't do that, either.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Hmmm... that's really intuitive on Thok's part, but also would be

really

sneaky on Puzzle's part. I'll have to think about that one.

That post also sparked some type of feeling in me. See this now - I'm getting to the point that I'm very confident Thok and Puzzle have opposite alignments.

ditto, m8

[Mastermind of Sin]

That post also sparked some type of feeling in me. See this now - I'm getting to the point that I'm very confident Thok and Puzzle have opposite alignments.

I'd feel better about this post if Flay hadn't made a similar comment earlier about me and Emptyger (post 103) that turned out to be false. Flay then turned up scum.

hmmm...

[Mastermind of Sin]

reveal :d

[Mastermind of Sin]

I don't know how soon darq can get to her forum games. I think some stuff came up IRL and she's been a little to busy for mafia.

[Mastermind of Sin]

can someone suggest some prods?

[Mastermind of Sin]

*bump*

[Mastermind of Sin]

Lets jump over darquiel. She posted only 3 posts so far in this game. I dont think she really cares, so I assume no result for her until stated otherwise.

*cough*

I don't know how soon darq can get to her forum games. I think some stuff came up IRL and she's been a little to busy for mafia.

*coughcough*

[Mastermind of Sin]

yup

[Mastermind of Sin]

vote: VisMaior

[Mastermind of Sin]

lol

[Mastermind of Sin]

vote: puzzle

[Mastermind of Sin]

no info here, either.