danakillsu wrote:Violet Lantern QT
Red Lantern QT
Sinestro QT
Black Lantern QT
Still not posting the Dead QT till I get an opinion from RC.
I should also mention to the haters that a 5-faction mafia game that's interesting at all is incredibly hard to balance, and considering the results, I'd say we came close enough for a first try.
I agree that for balancing a 5-faction mafia game, we came plenty close enough. Especially for the first try.
And as for the dead QT, I would say I agree with Magna:
MagnaofIllusion wrote:Dana I understand your thoughts and but I think having the Dead QT made public is important.
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Good game to all who played, things got nasty and a lot of people feel bittersweet about the ending, but that is just the nature of the beast. I will post this post I made in one of our mod topics because it's how I genuinely feel about how I felt the balance of the game could have been bettered (or was adequate).
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(keep in mind the game was still going on when I wrote this, so the present tense should now be read as past tense).
Let's look at the facts:
- It's quite hard for town to win this game. They have to do extremely well overall to pull this off.
- It's very hard for Red and Yellow to win this game. Mostly due to color-claiming.
- It's swingy for Orange to win this game. He had a good chance and did well, but it didn't work out.
- It could have been much easier for Black to dominate this game, they just had some bad luck.
- Black seems to have been overpowered, but in reality, it's a bulletproof recruiter and a bunch of VTs.
It's just failure to blackhunt on everyone else's part that is making it so easy for them to win.
All people have to do is lynch Magna and it's over for them. They have absolutely no power, no NKs, no nothing except for culting. They are not OP, no matter what anyone says. The fact that Magna is Magna has helped him not get lynched up until now, but we'll see what happens on Day 6. I have an inkling that town might pull this out of Kast and MoI make each other look bad enough, but it's still anyone's game at this point. I think the odds are stacked most heavily against Kast though. If Kast pulls this out, he gets a scummy nom from me for most cunning manipulation.
- Red screwed themselves. End of story.
- Orange had plenty of chance to win, and played optimally. Things just didn't work out. No hard feelings from him so we know we didn't screw that one up. Plus, he knows how close he got to winning, so that probably helps. He probably would have won if Andrius and Kdub hadn't gone public like they did and gotten protected so much at night. Otherwise he would have gone after them for sure.
- Yellow did much better than red, but were screwed by the color claims. We should have given them better ones. Really, the only solution to this is to have changed the setup so that some colors had more than others. Announcing 2PR/2VT at the beginning REALLY screwed them over, even if it didn't end up being true. 4 people per faction DID screw them over. That is just a lesson you will have to learn about theme games. Tell the players as little as possible until as late as possible. Setting any kind of preconception in their mind (early on in the game, in sign-up phase, or otherwise) will entirely dictate the way they play the game. Which is why yellow was screwed by their fake claims. Learn a lesson from it, move on. Next game will be better.
- Town could easily have been fine, but Reck and Starbuck dying so early didn't help them AT ALL. Stupid play by Reck. They also should have been able to mislynch at least twice without the fear of losing immediately. As it is, if they'd have mislynched even once, they'd now have already lost. One might argue that they should have been black-hunting, but for real, anything that's anti-town is a "good" lynch, and they've had all "good" lynches so far. Being so close to losing, despite that, is bad.
If Black wins, great. That leads perfectly into our next story. Town had plenty of power, and scum had poor fakeclaims. Town lynched correctly, but some of the more powerful players played somewhat poorly, resulting in their large advantage (Reck/Starbuck) being lost early on. Too bad for them, they could have gone far if they'd played smartly. But hey, if Black wins, that's kind of the point. It sets us up for the sequel perfectly.
And if Kast wins, well, awesome for him. Haha. He's the only one left with a night kill at this point.[/quote]
And I'd like to add that maaaaaybe I'd feel a little bit worse about the cult win if somebody had actually tried to kill Magna at night, during any point of the game. Meaning that
at no point during the game (day OR night) did anyone attempt to kill/lynch Magna
. Which is 100%
WHY
his faction won this game, plain and simple. There's no two ways about that fact, like it or not.
