Andrius wrote:Ooooooh hey KageLord!
We know you shot Kast. The problem is you aren't a JOAT. You're lurklurk Black Recruiter, playing is safe and staying under the radar, expecting when all the yellows to be dead for the pressure to release and us to go hunt somewhere else. All of your claimed actions are non-confirmable, ESPECIALLY with Kdub being in your team from as early as N3 (which would still make sense with Jack killing SensFan). As long as Kdub was recruiter before N5 (most likely N4 IMO) you would have gotten his gun and shot Kast, both 1) killing all scum-opposition and 2) confirming your JOAT-ness. You HAD to recruit him eventually; you didn't claim ANY actions until N3; why? To avoid having to lie about your real actions (recruiting our born-and-bred townies).
Well, as you said, unconfirmable. So I can't defend myself against this point as it's all about speculation. Confused here though: do you mean to say non-town can get blue gifts? Also, do you mean to say that we (town) have just been lucky enough to kill Black every night thanks to some vig and/or scum killing black repeatedly? Also, the theory does assume that I knew for a fact that Kast wasn't actually a JOAT (if he was and I killed him, I would get screwed).
[sarcasm]But you're right, KageLord, you're totally right. Since I'm sooooo ovtown and am still alive I MUST be the Black Recruiter, right?
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Clearly I didn't say that.
Dekes wrote:*waves at not confirmed, but most obvtown Andy*
Don't get me wrong. I want to get Kage lynched just as much as you do. All setup speculation aside he's simply the scummiest guy out there. I'm just saying a lot of those points match MoI, too.
And I remember MoI getting cleared by both Kdub and KageLord. Something to remember.
Can't argue with that. But note that my clearing of MoI was just that he couldn't be non-black scum other than Godfather (i.e. he wasn't red, orange, or non-Siniestro yellow).
@Kage
No, I don't think you're a JOAT. Just like Andy said I think you got Kdub's shot last night and used it on Kast to get yourself confirmed by Kdub. The only thing that you two didn't expect and messed up your plans was that Kast could block me and shoot Kdub. Because there was no reason for us to doubt Kdub was town you would've been seemingly confirmed, too and today's lynch would've been most likely TheStove.
And you're damn right I've been gunning for you these past days. AGM, tans and Kast were obvscum anyway, but we knew there was at least a fourth scum out there so I looked at the rest of the lot to find those hiding scum.
But good job on the half-assed suspicion against confirmed town only to backpaddle and admit it could just be OMGUS on your part.
lol I don't know that I've ever heard a backpedal call on statements in the same paragraph, but okay.
KageLord wrote:Question: Why is Andy still alive? I'm not saying it's evidence of anything against him
Then why did you say it all? Another weak ass suspicion here. How about I protected Andy the last three nights? And you even said you also protected him N4. So why would he be dead?
Last night Kast apparently gambled - or he thought Kdub was the more dangerous out of the two blue PR - and decided to kill Kdub. And thank God he did (sorry, Kast, I called you black scum over and over again when in fact you were just helpful, misunderstood yellow scum).
My question was more about why he survived last night. I suppose you could be right about Kast thinking Kdub was the more dangerous of the two, which is the reason I believed to be most likely out of what I thought of, but I still don't give it a high percentage of likelihood. Kdub over Town Leader Andy?
Kage, upon your skimming did you come across somebody who you actually believe is black?
And now we keep on twiddling our thumbs waiting for TheStove and MoI to show up.
Tbh, no. I have 0 experience with cult mechanics and judging by the "tells" used right here, it is an awfully difficult one to tackle. If you want to continue with the idea that people were recruited for at least a day and then killed, I suppose the plan would be to check out which remaining player had certain relationships with the flipped members (and especially if there were any people that those members seemed to change opinion on, or lay off of, overnight).
Andrius wrote:
Dekes wrote:
But good job on the half-assed suspicion against confirmed town only to backpaddle and admit it could just be OMGUS on your part.
Again, this was definitely ascumtell. Mainly flailing. "are we suuuuure Andy is ovtown? How about Dekes? anyone but me?"
Surprised he didn't bring up Stove's non-name-claiming deal.
And it doesn't seem odd to you that out of all players I would attempt to throw suspicion on obvtown? If I was final scum close to being nailed, I would almost certainly go for Stove or MoI before you two. Though, tbh, I would have recruited Andy at the first opportunity.
GOOD POINT, DEKES.
KageLord_Recruiter: "Why is Andy alive?"
Dekes_Ovtown: "Because you protected him?? (and I did too, y'know)"
Andy_ovtown:
KageLord_Recruiter:
But the protection was apparently blocked at least last night. >.>
Btw, Andy, can you remind me of how you confirmed Dekes to yourself?