Cold War Mafia - GAME OVER!!

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V/LA lasting longer than expected, but I will make a post in here tomorrow.

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Vote: TheAdmiral

I haven't done much more than skim the game, and I still know this guy's scum. Everyone else needs to step their games up >.>

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And why aren't you voting ThAdmiral, exactly?

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Glorious, glorious catchup posting.

And there is a miller in our midts. FYI its not me.

>.>

No. Im saying i have no qualms about being investigated if someone deems me worthy of it. Im not going "Oh! COP COP!! Pick me! Pick meee!" Do not twist my words.

MAFIA GODFATHER HI

Okay, so it's no secret that I hate the RQS because it's generally useless and guaranteed to be stupid, but I don't really view Furcolow as the type who would plot to use RQS to drown the town in noise. Hell, I don't see most people seeing that way, so the fact that Llama views Furcolow that way nets him a :S from me. I see how RQS is anti-town. But scummy?

I don't like PI's buddying to Llama, though. I can see the whole kissing the feet of the guy who invalidates everything that's been brought up against you coming from town or scum; nobody likes pressure. But the whole "you share the same opinion of furcolow as I" when Llama finds furc scummy and you just wanted him policy lynched is suspicious.

XScorp is town, and I promise not to backtrack on this read for a loss in LyLo later

smargaret, what's wrong with not being able to vote for a developing wagon that might lead to a lynch, but being able to place a random vote down that most certainly won't lead to a lynch? why don't you find people who ignored everything that was going on and just placed down a random vote scummier?

Thad begins his great scum rampage by answering age-old RQS questions he know he won't be attacked on, addressing an age-old proposal to policy lynch Furc, and then hopping on the largest bandwagon of the time.

HELLO TOWN RC!

Okay, let's play hypotheticals with the PoisonIvy situation.
Hypothetical 1: Ivy recieves an American, town role PM with the wincon "You win when all threats to peace are killed". This role PM contains nothing but a link to a person and a little bit of flavor that has nothing to do with anyone else. For someone with minimal knowledge of the cold war, it wouldn't be a huge jump to assume "okay, americans = good guys, soviets = bad guys", and the Soviets are the threats to peace.
Hypothetical 2: Ivy recieves a Soviet, scum role PM with the wincon "You win when all Soviets survive". Her scumbuddies are Soviets. However, I can guarantee to you that the mafia have something in their role PM about being a threat to peace. This doesn't imply that the town roles are all Americans at all. So in order to even assume Americans versus Soviets, it would require minimal knowledge about the cold war.
In other words, all the wincon thing proves is that PoisonIvy doesn't know her stuff.

smarg is scum again. I can smell it.

More scum funtime from Thad! He gets mad at Furc telling PoisonIvy to make a "good solid wall", continues to push the PoisonIvy lynch without any reasoning, continues to post absolutely no content...

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@Nacho: Could you explain your XScorp read to me?

He's town. What more did you need to know?

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V/LA for a day

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Sorry for being absent, but my vote on ThAd still is looking as wonderful as ever. Did anyone need an update on the case?

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And for the record, she is definitely not Godfather.

Of course not. You are Godfather now!

Gonnano wagon's dying down, which makes me sad because I'm not liking a Thad or jmj wagon right now, especially with smarg pushing the Thad wagon.

Weird vibes from 498.

smarg's 507 really rubs me the wrong way - she's pushing the Amrun wagon while staying on ThAd, another high BW. Don't know HOW LynchMe is getting goodposting from that. Maybe I'm just tunneling though.

One player on a wagon affects your read of the wagonee?

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(unless I missed someone saying such).

smarg is scum again. I can smell it.

Thanks for the shoutout, Pie.

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@ThAd: your reactions: they've been scattered and inconsistent, some very flippant and uncooperative. More than that, though, I'd like to see you flip because I think analyzing who was pushing/defending you and how will be fruitful.

Then are you going to vote for him or not?

Hypothetical Scenario: LynchMePls, Amrun, and ThAdmiral are the last three alive on D6. Amrun is voting ThAdmiral, and ThAdmiral is voting him back. With everything that you've gathered up until this point, what's your move, LMP?

I don't understand what the point of this question is.
Why not just ask who's scummier?

Oh god LMP is so town.

DP is probably scum.

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IF YOU WOULD STOP THE WIFOM FOR ONE SECOND IT WOULD MAKE ME VERY HAPPY.

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bvoigt >.>

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Can we lynch ThAdmiral now?

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JOHN F KENNEDY IS NO SCUM YOU BASTARD

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- If mccarthy is town I would say the game is bastard. He is clearly not pro-peace so he really shouldn't be town.

More tomorrow.

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Unvote, Vote: Bunnylover

For refusing to give flavor

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Where did Bunny say he didn't have flavor?

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The favor I do have,

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SOMEBODY KILLED JOHN F KENNEDY???

FUCK THEM.
LLAMA, I WILL AVENGE YOU. I PROMISE.
THIS MEANS THAT ALL THOSE LAZY VOTES (yes im looking at everyone who has voted today) NEED TO STOP.

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V/LA until Monday

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Kennedy's back. Thank you for holding.
In loving memorium of Llamafluff.

First off, some speculation. Most likely, the "removed from bunker" kill was RedCoyote's. Removing from the bunker seems to be more protown than any of the others, since removing from the bunker isn't killing, and is instead taking someone from the warzone (and thus promoting peace). Ghostwriter was also leagues scummier than RedCoyote or Llama, so it checks out pretty nicely there, too. This means that we're most likely dealing with two separate scum teams, most likely of three each.

RedCoyote's major suspect before death was mothrax, major town read was Amrun.
LlamaFluff's major suspect before death was EGL, major town read was Amrun and gonnano.
In other words, at least one of mothrax/EGL is scum, and Amrun is almost certainly town and is thus not our lynch for the day.

Spoiler: jmj/mothrax ISO

Now, I don't like how DavidParker and PoisonIvy both have started speculating about the set-up on page 1. Also, they both seem to be ignoring the glaringly obvious possible mafia win-con CML posted. However, that isn't enough for me to vote them yet.

Now, this seems odd as hell to me considering that he answered Furc's setup question earlier than the post.

Unfortunately, that's the only interesting part about jmj's posting; it's just a lot of excuses, procrastinating, and catching up.

Next, mothrax.

Hi guys. Will begin reading now. Fair warning, I suck at catch-ups.

"Hi guys go easy on me."

Oh dear. you can tell I'm scum from one post with no content? How do you do it? Where did you get your psychic abilities from?

Yes, I realize he's being sarcastic in this post. But responding to being called scum with "ARE YOU PSYCHIC?" is never a good sign to me, regardless.

Then, mothrax falls into a patten of lurking similar to his predecessor. The catchup post is pretty much all of the content he cares to provide.

Spoiler: EGL

EGL's ISO looks a hell of a lot better, and I'm about 80% sure that he's town, especially with the revelation that Amrun is town as well. In particular, I like the jump from PI to ThAd when the Ivy wagon was in full swing, and I like the attack on Llama a lot. It wouldn't be in scumEGL's best interests at all to jump from the PI wagon at that point in time, since it looked fairly certain it would lead to a lynch, and since he had already been criticized for vote-hopping earlier in the game. That attack on Llama was an "Amrun and Llama are buddies attack", which I liked a lot mainly because he went after Llama over Amrun. Again, it would be more efficient and more beneficial for EGL as scum just to attack the easier target, but EGLtown would have reason to attack the one he thought was slipping under everyone's radar.

Vote: mothrax

Thad, why aren't you voting?
gonnano, stop doing flavor speculation. It's useless.

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Nacho, your basic case against me is for lurking. It's funny cause it's hypocritical.

I still don't have a computer. Hopefully tomorrow I will be back to full strength mothrax.

Hypocritical?
Was I promising content and then not delivering?
Nooooo...

Nacho, why are you clearing Amrun based on the nk? Have you never seen scum kill someone to frame a town player, or kill someone who had called them town during the day?

On day one? In a large game?
HELL NO.

1. Two mafia factions.

Still not 100% sold on it. Everybody who's saying that GW was a good vig target are also the people that were suspecting GW during Day 1. Sure, it makes a good vig target to you, but I didn't think GW was that scummy and I suspect some of the other players shared my view. Since RedCoyote didn't talk much about GW, I would actually think he didn't suspect him. On the other hand, RC did quiz Llama quite a bit.

Ah! So good guys assassinate and poison, and bad guys remove from bunkers?

Sathoris' increased participation after being called out for it is noted.

Do you expect the people you call out as lurking to continue to lurk?

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HEY MOTHRAX.
WHO'S POSTING RIGHT NOW? I AM!
WHO ISN'T? YOU ARE!
IF YOU'RE GONNA CALL ME HYPOCRITICAL FOR CALLING YOU OUT FOR LURKING, THEN YOU DAMN WELL BETTER BE POSTING MORE THAN I AM.

Can we lynch me if Amrun ISNT Scum? Because considering me vs poisonivy on d1 would really clear me, and they CLAIMED SILENCER, are you all fucking kidding me?
terrible fucking players

You missed two scumteams, buddy.

Shut up and die already.

HI LURKER SCORPION. PLANNING ON COASTING THROUGH THIS WHOLE GAME, SCUM?

Yet another reason to not believe Furc - Amrun's claimed a name and role that fit (and while I doubt the silencer is town, I don't doubt that she is a silencer). My name and role fit. Heydar Aliyev does not fit with doc.

My name and role don't fit.
SHITTY REASON SISTER.

Who did you protect N1?

You're town, aren't you?

Are you suggesting Furc ISN'T scum? Why?

BETTER LEARN TO READ LURKER SCUM.
AND DO YOU REALLY WANT TO PEG FURC SCUM OVER DP SCUM? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

Also, I never said "bad guys" remove from bunkers. I said it's probably a 3rd party role.

Last time I checked, SKs weren't anything BUT bad guys.

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too many lurking bastards for JFK to handle ATM.
But if you leave me alive during the night, I'll be happy to oblige.

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too many lurking bastards for JFK to handle ATM.
But if you leave me alive during the night, I'll be happy to oblige.

Are you implying you are going to kill someone?

Yes.

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Sathoris, Furc, DP, Lowell, why did you ignore my claim?

Unvote, Vote: DavidParker

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You did.
But I don't care about you.

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By March 11, 12:00 AM EST, I will make a post in this game I can be proud of. One that will do my people proud.

This I swear, or I will seek out Glork to replace me and change my avatar to the most messed up, but allowable, avatar this game thread can come up with for the rest of my time on Mafiascum.net. I will change the avatar of all hydras and alts I am in accordingly.

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bvoigt is town.

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How did I miss that...?

Unvote, Vote: Amrun

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sorry smarg

And I DO have a post to make so don't quickhammer.