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Preemptive warning: Starting today will be the last of the tests then finals. From about now til the December 15th, I will be busy so my activity levels will be somewhat down, but Ill be here still posting and what not. If i don't post for a day, assume i pulled an allnighter and passed out after taking the test.-
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VOTE: GhostWriter
Obviously he stole the keys to Bowser because:
1. He's a ghost.
2. Writers need (computer) keys to type their books.
How did you know I was a masochist???curiouskarmadog wrote:vote sharkfinn
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Why would you ask this question?chkflip wrote:diddin, does your character wear clothes? Shells don't count.
FoS:chkflip
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Keeping the FoS on chkflip. Reaction is satisfiable atm, but since not much else is going on, he retains the FoS and not a vote.
Policy lynching is meh atm. Yes 1/2 of the gandalfizsik is dmsis, but give the benefit of the doubt and treat it as gandalf until dmsis appears, which then i'll re-evaluate. In the mean time no policy lynch unless the policy lynchee is scummy.-
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Unroast Ghostwriter
Roasting chkflip on the fireplace
Post regarding gandalf's question on role + WC quote struck me as extra scummy. First scumread of the day.-
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chkflip wrote:GandalfIzSik wrote:Minethat I was a certain role, but I actually had to ask the mod to be sure.strongly implied
- lolwut?Standard Factional Win Condition wrote:"Youwin if all forces sharing my keys are burnt to a golden crisp and at least one pathetic player remains standing in your worthless faction!"(Character Name)Gollum wrote:We find CHK's "catch" to be a stretch.Lakitu wrote:Iec: methinks you are confusing alignment (Town/scum) with Role(Vanilla town/Village Idiot)
~~ BSGandalfIzSik wrote:I would think it were fairly obvious that when I said role, I meant ROLE, not character. All I was saying was that while it gave a flavor description of my character's abilities(or lack thereof), it never actually said, "You are CHARACTER, Town ROLE"
So I had to PM the mod to figure out the specifics.
These basically sum up everything I felt about chkflip's "catch". It was obvious that it would mean the role itself, not the rolename. If it was rolename, why would gandalf:GandalfIzSik wrote:Mine strongly implied that I was a, but I actually had to ask the mod to be sure.certain role
1. not use wikipedia/google to figure out his character?
2. ask a mod if it was just rolename?
I will say that (based on Gandalf's reaction + my own) that these role PMs can be pretty verbose, and possibly confusing, depending on how Lord Bowser words things. I was borderline on chkflip before but yea now he deserves a vote. I have a few other leads based upon the posts between my previous posts, but chkflip is more suspect atm.-
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@ Zdenek: You have to unvote first before changing votes
NINJA EDIT: @ Zodiark: inb4omgus
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Good good. I may reconsider a vote on you, depending on what you still got, but my vote remains here for the time being. My vote is based on overall play atm, not just the "catch"chkflip wrote:Fair enough. I read it as something that it wasn't, it's not the end of the world. I don't get why there's an abundance of votes on me about it as it was a simple mistake.
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I'll be re-reading to get a clearer view on some scum. This time I'll make sure to completely comprehend the syntax.-
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Gandalfizsik is a hydra account of gandalf5166 and drmyshottyizsik. DMSIS is a VI of sorts (to put it nicely).muh316 wrote:Just one question: Who's shotty and Hydra?
There is no actual player named Hydra.
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[quote="Bowser"]After speaking with my equal...
O merciful Bowser, art thou the sole ruler of these lands? Lord of this mighty kingdom? Why doest though possess an equal, when surely you need not any equal?
FoS: Bowser
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>>>chkflip:diddin, GhostWriter,SharkFinn,Zodiark13,GandalfIzSik,mongoose, Lakitu, JimFinn,danakillsu, muh316
>>muh316: Pranadevil, Midnight's Sorrow, Nexus,gandalf5166,diddin, AurorusVox
Bolded= changed votes. Underline = FoSing the other wagon.
Note: diddin was off chkflip but failed to unvote before jumping back on his policy lynch of GiS.
Nothing stands out as of yet but probably should be monitored. I am unsure of muh316 but I still think the pressure being put upon him is helping.
FoS: muh316
Muh316: Why do you want a quick lynch again? I know it’s to check the mechanics of the game, but how does a quick lynch help this along? Also it isnt that each vote on you or chk is meaning we want them dead. Maybe a little pressure is all thats needed. btw, after my FoS you have 6 votes and 4 FoS. 10/28 is approaching 1/2 the game finding you suspicious.
Antihero: I see that you failed to mention anything about chkflip or muh316, the two most prominent wagons going on. I understand your opinions are valid, but I do request your opinion on those two. As for the reason for my passivity, I'm not trying to rush things or cause a wagon to go so quickly that we hammer someone w/o giving enough time to process. I know it wouldnt happen that quickly, but I still prefer to wait a little. Once I cement any reads, Ill be more agressive to your standards.
Lord Bowser: I request a hard prod upon Lrdwhyt, horrordude0215, and LowellThose three have only confirmed and have not posted anything of value whatsoever. Why, O merciful Bowser, would you ever let them slide so long through this game?-
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Edit: I missed the two additional votes on muh from Bunnylover and chkflip.
That makes 12/28 muh316. This ok with you still?-
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Ok. So I've looked at a couple of players over the past day and here are thoughts. (Im not putting a full iso down because I'm still working every angle)
muh316: I'm not sure what to make of this. His push for an early lynch is suspicious, yet he offers himself to be lynched. Hard to read, but whatever he is, he isnt acting pro-town.
diddin: idk, something is off with him. His FoS on David was unfounded and out of nowhere. David already made the notion that diddin was scummy but after Gollum voted, David followed. OMGUS might be in the works here, but unsure.
danakillsu: I agree with CKDs position. Dana has been kinda coasting along and I think his latest vote on diddin is out of desperation to show geniuine scumhunting w/o jumping onto one of the bandwagons already.
chkflip: Meh, he's acted more town and gone under the radar ever sense muh jumped on his wagon. Still watching you. .
Remove chkflip from the open flame(aka unvote)
Openly suggest that(aka FoS)diddinanddanakillsube the first to be served with the cocktail weiners
On the sidenote: whoever said that Skittles are delicious is correct. They do taste like the rainbow.
EDIT: Interesting catch by Swiftstrike. I still feel that dana is scum, but will look into CKD next.-
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@Muh: Why must you target a guy who is away? Going for another easy lynch, eh?-
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@ dana/ckd: Ok, had a chance to re-read the interaction between you two.
1. I'm unusure of what ckd means by "covering his bases" in regards to chk/muh before chk called him out there. I really don't see dana intentionally FoSing and voting a player in order to prevent you from calling him out on it.
2. I will agree my previous post was worded off the mark, let me try again. Dana, you had very little individual thought with a vote you quoted another player on and then a FoS on an already large bandwagon. When CKD put pressure on you, you quickly changed votes based on an iso you've been doing for a while.
3. In regards to the "catch," i wasnt sure how to interpret it so I just called it interesting. Yea yea not really a catch, but still the interaction between you and dana warranted a quick read through of both parties.
Overall opinion: Still unsure of what to think, but still keeping an eye out on both. This interaction is telling, but Im still working on exactly what.
And Muh needs to answer my questions or I'll abandon this venture to "quicklynch" him .-
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It was after ckd argued you didn't have a strong opinion, then you took your own "initiative" and voted someone with little votes and gave a genuine opinion. I give you that you did make a good point and opinion, but that doesnt mean that you were not rushed/prompted by the events between you and CKD. That's my point.danakillsu wrote:@ SharkFinn
It's true that my timing looks a little coincidental, but it was after ckd and I had been debating for a while. It's not like as soon as any pressure was put on me, I switched my vote. I voted seriously when I was ready to.
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@ Muh316
He did claim V/LA. he just showed up sooner than expected.gandalf5166 wrote:I'll be V/LA for the next couple of days. I've been sick, but now I'm in serious pain, like every time I breathe it feels like my ribs are jabbing into my lungs pain. I need to rest. I can't even watch Psych, because it hurts when I laugh.-
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I would like a vote count soon. I'm beginning to think it's about time to ask for muh316 claim. I sense that he's rapidly approaching hammertime.
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Return to roasting Muh316
I see no reason not to continue with his lynch. I really don't see anyone else sticking out at this point more than muh has. Yea i still have a little doubt with muh, but im not letting this wagon dissipate before the deadline, unless there is another reason why I should change my vote.-
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@ Lowell: Fair argument on your part, but I will argue that a D1 mislynch is okay in my book. yea its bad to lynch town, but a mislynch D1 might give us as much info as an actual successful lynch D1. Muh hasnt contributed too much to the convo + his scummy behavior makes him a prime target.
Having said all of this, your case on Swift sounds pretty good. I am willing to bandwagon it once I iso him (im about to go into a review session for statics so that will have to wait til later tonight) but I will say something about Swift ping'd me (not too much but there was something there)-
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Meh. Nothing too swaying atm. Still think muh lynch will work better for town than Swift lynch does. Despite Lowell's case, Swift has been at least contributing (something > nothing)-
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Well, we have <24 hours now, so muh316, you have to make a convincing argument to quickly swing our votes off. Otherwise, then...well...give us something to remember you by.
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On phone. Posting to say wow!!!! Will do analysis and post more within 24 hours-
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Reveal sarpovirus/antihero
Of all the players who's roles weren't revealed, sarpovirus/antihero have posted the most, so that's my opinion-
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Ok. sorry I havent posted in a while. Thoughts.
1. I have town reads on DP (reading dead players) and Baby Spice.
2. JimFinn: why did you ask for a mass name claim?
3. I still dont understand the RVS at the beginning of today.
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@iec: But do you think mallow is behaving like town or scum? This is bastard mod so pa mole can stillbe scum.-
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Iec: why are you attempting to scumhunt using rolenames in a known bastard mod? Who knows, pa mole might be a wolf now that ma died. I don't think that's a good idea, but that's just my opinion. If you got a valid reason, I'd love to hear it.-
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That makes sense. I'll leave you to your scumhunting then. Also, yea the theory of that was just something I came up with, nothing serious.Iecerint wrote:The mod is someone who likes Super Mario RPG enough to base an entire game around it. While I expect a few surprises along the way, I don't expect a set-up that violates major game premises. (Like, Mario-scum would be OK, villain-scum would be OK; totally random alignments are not expected).
I also don't expect the mod to do much with Pa Mole and Ma Mole, since they're extremely minor characters who have like 8 lines in the entire game. A subversion involving them would make a one-scene-only character into a major game event, which seems like squandering built-in drama.
If the game were a bastard game with a less esoteric theme -- "office romance" or something -- I'd have a different attitude toward roles.
So it's basically /outguess. YMMV, but I still feel pretty strongly about it.
Regarding your specific "Pa Mole becomes 3rd party after other dies" idea -- if the theory is that MG has recently become scum, I don't think there's any scumtell, because his play hasn't changed D1 to D2 AFAICT.
Ill see if anyhing else pops up from previous convo that I want to address-
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Again, in a selfproclaimed bastard mod, names mean shit. Only thing I'll listen to is error in claim of name (aka the Johnny thing) but thats not much.
Play > name.
At the moment, I would like to start some sort of activity up here, sooooooo
Vote: Gollumfor possessing the ring...err...key that he obviously has.-
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@Nexus: I lynched someone by an error in a nameclaim. John Connor is the guy from terminator, but the mod put John O'Connor in his role PM. >_<.-
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EDIT: Mistake, I got someone modkilled for C/Ping his role PM in Mad World: Time Travel Mafia
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p2456537 <-- Link to where he got modkilled-
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Not really a RV. I have my reasons.mallowgeno wrote:
A little late for RVing isn't it?SharkFinn wrote:Again, in a selfproclaimed bastard mod, names mean shit. Only thing I'll listen to is error in claim of name (aka the Johnny thing) but thats not much.
Play > name.
At the moment, I would like to start some sort of activity up here, sooooooo
Vote: Gollumfor possessing the ring...err...key that he obviously has.
Also,FoS: jimfinnfor BAAAING like a sheep-
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Well, Im glad I voted Gollum, mainly cause I was able to get a scummier person on the wagon, like, say
Unvote: Gollum
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1. I didnt expect a bunch of people to jump on Gollum.
2. My reasons, as mentioned in my vote post of Dana, were just behaviorial and gut. I was voting to promote activitity, seeing where things were going (as you can tell this game is taking a while to keep going).
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How about this. I am a(n) XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, aligned with town.
Because I am that role, you should vote with me and lynch the scum.
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Forwarning everyone; I will have issues getting on due to issues on the homefront. I will post as often as I can and continue to contribute.
Also, I do not like Jimfinn's post voting David, but will rethink it.
Btw, my prev post was a joke as correctly interpreted by GhostWriter-
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Ok. Lets go with this lynch on dana.
unvote whoever i was voting
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Actually i just realized I unvoted you from like pages ago, Dana. I guess I just forgot that I thought you were scummy before.SharkFinn wrote:Well, Im glad I voted Gollum, mainly cause I was able to get a scummier person on the wagon, like, say
Unvote: Gollum
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Ok I just did a very loose votecount atm.
Dana has 7 votes: Bunny, Chkflip, Shark, Baby, Ckd, David, Nexus (in reverse order)
With the modkils of Head Honcho and sarpovirus, we have 17 people, meaning 9 to lynch.
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VOTE COUNT PEOPLE:
Danakillsu [7]: Nexus, Bunnylover, Sharkfinn, David Parker, curiouskarmadog, chkflip, Baby Spice
Midnight's Sorrow [5]: mallowgeno, Iecerint, Midnight's Sorrow, Zdenek, Swiftstrike
DavidParker [3]: Ghostwriter, danakillsu, jimfinn
jimfinn [1]: Gollum
Not voting: Lowell
Requesting that mallowgeno and Lowell be prodded NOT MODKILLED and that Gollum be more proactive.
With 17 alive, its 9 to lynch. Deadline is on January 20th, as of Bowser's last post.
mallows posts are shallow btw, if you wanted to verify my votecount.-
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Ok, made a prod to the mod and Untrod Tripod (assumed backup mod). ha ha. lots of rhyme.
Anyways danakillsu claims VT, if you missed that, so no one can accuse anyone else for quicklynching w/o a claim
[quote=danakillsu]Yeah. Let's just go with this lynch. Nothing else to do, right?
Weird that the votes are actually sticking on me, and not anyone else. But I'm just a VT, so I guess it's almost a plus to be able to ignore this game soon. There's NO activity![/quote]
Also agree the overall activity is lacking, but at least something is going on, right? even if it's at your expense XD-
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danakillsu: you should have been more specific instead of beating around the bush.........>_<.-
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I am about to violate rule 3.VI
However, given the circumstance that this game has 0 mods present, we need someone to take charge, so here's the reply I got from sending a message to Untrod Tripod in regards to him serving as backup mod to this game.Bowser wrote:VI. Do not quote King to Henchman conversation. You're not allowed to paraphrase. I'll burn you if you do.
Intentionally censored just cause i felt like it but he does know that Bowser hasn't responded to anything.Untrod Tripod wrote:Oh f@#*.
Yeah, I'll get on that. Thanks for letting me know.
Additionally, I sent a message that same day to Bowser...still in my Outbox. I seriously am willing to kill myself off just to moderate this game if neither mod can do it. Or we can consider drawing out the game.-
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REVEAL sarpovirus
Baby Spice already said that Head_Honcho was his mason buddy.-
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DavidParker wrote:@mod:Sadly while i had high hopes for the flavor of this game and the players it has failed on a huge number of levels most of which had nothing to do with your modding ability. WIth that said, it may be time to scrap the game :/ Oh don't think people will be that bothered. Or at least get a vote on whether to continue or not.
Agree with the above.curiouskarmadog wrote:I think the mod(s) need to put some work into the game, I am disappointed. so let me get the straight the back up mod was someone who couldnt mod a game?....who authorized that? at any rate, I learned my lesson in this game...I say if the mod cant put more time in this game..we end it.
I'd like this game to continue but if you guys arent going to put that much effort into it, then, meh.
To start this game off, does anyone have any reason why there was a no kill? I MAY have an explanation, but if we are claiming, I'd like to see what others have.-
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