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Let's see if I've got this playerlist straight.
1. Frogito Ergo Sum - CES/Shanba
2. Pathetric - I dunno. Some newb.
3. Gummybear - singersigner/quadz
4. Final Destination - presumably Fate/Almaster GM
5. Balam - no clue
6. Mrs. Flay - JDodge/Pickem
7. Reckamonic - Reckoner/dramonic
8. Greymarble - GreyICE/Llamarble
9. Untrod Stranger - Untrod Tripod pretending to be two people
10. BeaverWeasel - no clue
11. YosFlavouredCayke - Yosarian/Cayke
12. Unicorn Brethren - ReaperCharlie and...someone. Fritzler?
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Well, this might help narrow it downBeaverWeasel wrote:As a whole we do not value meta reads and so we will not be using them.
Truth is, meta is useful for reading people, and others will be using it whether your hydra thinks it's helpful or not. I think having a list of everyone's identity helps us find scum, and outweighs any benefit the scum get from knowing who they're trying to fool. That said, I don't agree with Greymarble that it's a scumtell, it seems more like a decision you would have made regardless of alignment.[ooc][color=black]Patrick[/color] + [color=#FFCC00][b]Ether[/b][/color] hydra.[/ooc]-
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Post 113, Gummy wrote:I'm not going to play in a hydra without utilizing the other head of it. If I wanted to do that, I would be playing in a game by myself.
I think that sums it up pretty well. You seem to be convinced that, because I'm capable of operating independently, I'm not also chatting up Patrick (when he's awake) and utilizing my doubleheadedness to its full potential. This is false.Post 114, Ether wrote:That is anextremelyfalse dilemma.
It's also a really stupid conversation, by the way. You could just be posting who you think the scum are.
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Post 113, GummyBear wrote:If I think one half of the player list is scum and my other half thinks the other half of the player list is scum, then we don't really get anywhere. If we have a chance to discuss what we think about the players, we can form more accurate opinions collectively from there.Post 118, GummyBear wrote:Fyi, discussion is almost never stupid as long as it's game/mafia related. If we hadn't had that discussion, I never would have known why it mattered to you that I was concerned with conferring before we posted specific thoughts on specific players. It's pro-town to talk. To think otherwise is batting for the other team.vote: GummyBear
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In answer to that last question: I am keeping an eye on Fate. As I've said, I'm weary of anyone who thinks a six-headed hydra is a good fallback lynch.
But there's a very, very obvious difference between their play and yours.
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Yeah let's kill them.
By the way, I don't think this is a fair rule to the scum, and for ethical reasons Patrick and I will not be posting our own transcripts until after the game.TBM wrote:3. If it's not in the game thread or your private communications with your fellow head(s), don't quote it.
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Post 130, Ether's stance on Fate prior to Greymarble's post wrote:Fate could be scum. (shrug)Post 135, in which Ether voted Fate wrote:Yeah, okay.unvote; vote: Final Destination
If it makes you feel better, Unicorns is probably town anyway.
I'm still reserving the right to flip back to GummyBear. They can both be scum.
Let me fix this for you.Post 148, Fate wrote:I think Ether is particularly suspicious the way she got on our wagon, citing "thinking 6 heads is a good fallback lynch" as her reason.
Feel free to elaborate on GummyBear, though.Post 148, Fate wrote:I'm just completely making shit up.
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This is a stupid discussion.
The following people are town so far:
Unicorns
Final Destination
DaSpot
Probably Yosarian, I guess.
I want to vote GummyBear again, but we're kinda getting to the point where half the cast has gone lurking and I feel weird focusing on any one person. Hmm hmm.
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Ether wrote:I don't really get the case on Fez. I think my other head will question them when he's not off playing chess.
Having said that, Fez's vote is most likely wrong.
Excuse me?Post 222, Fate wrote:Speaking of said reads, even Ether is hesitant to give a Yos a town slot, his play is just that off
Okay. How do you propose to distinguish between {Balam, Flaygang, GummyBear, Mastin, Reckmon}, then, beyond requesting prods and waiting? At least two and possibly three of that group are the scum.Post 208, DaSpot wrote:Is wary of putting vote on their own scum read. "Feeling weird focusing on one person" has never happened to me as town.
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That's a funny story. Yosarian was indeed acting kinda weird toward me early on, and that'sPost 237, Balam wrote:Ethe likes being affirmed, so I feel the level at which Yos joined with Ether while not really talking about anything else and letting it slide by is suspect.whyI decided he's probably town.
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Ohhhhhhhh Shanba. Poor paranoid little man.Post 243, Shanba wrote:I'm not really feeling it yet - still don't think her vote on gummybear was particularly good - but CES thinks she's town so you know whatever.
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Basically it is partly that AGM's fury makes a lot more sense in light of Greymarble claiming to have made shit up, and partly that it is very obvious that there is a crowd of lurkerscum and we have to make them die.
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HO-HO-HO. Yosarian seems obvtown, or he's snowing me very well. I usually find him scummy by default, but he just looks like town to me here. Final Destimnations arguments against him seem like a stretch.
I don't remember Ether saying this. Right now I'm undecided on you and she thinks you're town. I feel like your post of attacks on us is pretty bad and looks like you first decided to suspect us then came up with some justification for it after, but that pushing for the mod to allow everyone to reveal their private hydra quicktopics or logs is probably a town tell (I think scum would be hesitant to have to get into making faking logs or having to come up with tons of fake scumhunting conversations in their quicktopics).kspot wrote:1) Path: you have not (to my knowledge) explained in deatail why we are "borderline scummy". If you don't mind?
I like GummyBear's recent posting. It seems to show some curiousity about alignments, and I think as scum they'd have been more likely to brush off Yosarian's defence of Ether and keep the Pathetric suspicion going for them to use later.
US's post 263 attacks Gummy's post that just made me think he might be town, that smells a little weird to me. He says Gummy's talk on Ether is irrelevant because nobody cares about Ether, which is blatantly false; a rather large number of people have expressed some kind of suspicion of her, and a few have attacked Yosarian for defending her. Weird post.
Currently our combined town list has Yosarian2, Unicorns and probably GummyBear. I also think Greymarble is probably town, and Ether thinks daspot and Final Destination are. Balam as well, but I can't remember why, will have to ask her.
MID POST EDIT: Hey reck, do you normally wait until dramonic is with you to post any thoughts at all? Clearly some hydras have been playing like that this game but you didn't strike me as someone who'd be that bothered about conferring before speaking.
FES... reads oddly to me. There's no better way of describing it. This post reads awkwardly to me everytime, and talking about isoing Ether and agreeing with Yos2 seems forced, I wouldn't have thought either CES or Shanba would need to do that to determine Ether's alignment. Overall I didn't agree with many of the reasons people gave for voting them, but I can't get comfortable with them yet. I think Ether's vote on US is ok, but FES needs watching. They could go either way for me.
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What? Neither of us find you innocent.And WTF Pathetric? Do you not talk to the other head? One thinks we are innocent and the other one labels us as #1 die die scum die? How can you say we are probably town but yet at the same time a god damn VOTE is perfectly ok on us then? Inconsistent much?[ooc][color=black]Patrick[/color] + [color=#FFCC00][b]Ether[/b][/color] hydra.[/ooc]-
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Well, I don't have a clue why you thought I found you innocent and freaked out on me, so it'll have to do. I did write a list of people I think are probably town, and you weren't on it.US wrote:THATS IT? "We dont find you innocent". NOTHING ELSE?
You like hyperbole. I gave my opinion on Frog in my last post. I'm not especially comfortable them, but I think the stated cases are poor and I wouldn't add a vote to lynch them at this point. I don't know what you mean about the "new Yos topic", but I have a pretty strong town read on him.US wrote:No opinion on Froggy, no opinion on the new Yos topic. No arguments, no tells, no discussion. Fuck this, im playing mafia like Pathetric and Scummybear from now on, since it seems to draw no suspicion at all from all these scumbag lurkers.
On isoing back, do you think that this:
is a genuine tell?US wrote:Hey Froggy, being belligerent and insulting to everyone thats pointing out your scummy behavior isnt really helping your defense either. We can add that as argument as to why FES needs to hang.
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A good number of players in this game know who we are, and in our very first post, Ether signed as herself and confirmed that I'd seen our role. On top of that, our sig says who we are. Do you actually believe what you're saying?Weasel wrote:@ Pathetric 48-49: We decided to remain anonymous before we signed up for this game, also, yes. Your effort early on to paint yourself as a newb was decietful.
I don't like the rest of the post either. Are you scum with US, by any chance?[ooc][color=black]Patrick[/color] + [color=#FFCC00][b]Ether[/b][/color] hydra.[/ooc]-
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Post 351, what Mastin said wrote:Your interactions with Ether/Patrick are not indicitive of someone who is not sure of anothers allignment. You interact with them as if you know beyond a shodow of a doubt that they are town and for that there are two options: you are scum or you are masons (or a daycop, but this is a normal...)
I believe it to be the first option.
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