A Storm of Swords - Lay your swords down!

[Benmage]

Oh ya,

unvote

Nothing cute here. *glares at CSL in aCoK*

[Benmage]

Vote Enter Wedding Now

[Benmage]

Btw dgb, my comment on setael was a joke.

[Benmage]

***I will govern a Zed lynch. He is being taken care of.

[Benmage]

These will be governed:
LL
Andy
Dana
Kast
Magua
LMP

I might feel the desire to govern:
Shadow
Pops
DGB

The Hand speaks with the king's voice.

[Benmage]

-Benmage? Why did you ignore this:

Benmage, if you're voting Zdenek, and are actually thinking of governing Raiv, why the hell do you even want a claim from him?

and immediately vote Raivann?

I thought it was exxxtremely obvious. I wanted the lead suspects going into the wedding phase to have claimed.

[Benmage]

VOTE RAIVANN unvote

[Benmage]

vote Raivann

[Benmage]

Well that sucks.

MODS

what if we no lynch?

[Benmage]

Well I roleblocked Zdenek last night.

Yep.

Odd....we don't have a doctor?

Also I was given essentially a namecop result last night.

Seems odd and illogical....Possibly scumsent.

[Benmage]

Well that sucks.

MODS

what if we no lynch?

You no lynch.

We avoid the whole trial thing altogether?

[Benmage]

Well that sucks.

MODS

what if we no lynch?

You no lynch.

We avoid the whole trial thing altogether?

You no lynch

Well


This fucking sucks.

Sorry to rain on mod parade....But i see no town benefit from this.

Say we lynch extremely scummy player XXX....He chooses extremely town player Benmage to be his champion...Extremely scummy player XXX is saved because noone wants the beloved Benmage to die.

So neutral player YYY who was the first voter picks Almost as town as Benmage player ZZZ....ZZZ 2nd most town player has to die???

That fucking sucks.

This sucks.

[Benmage]

MODS

what is both players pick the same champion?

[Benmage]

We could vote a town player to lynch, then have them choose the scumbag to be their champion, who we then vote to lose the duel and be killed? idk if that'd work.

OMG NEXUS U RULEZZZ

WHY AM I SO NARROWMINDED!!

[Benmage]

Alright well I feel a million times better now.

Lets see what do we need to go over today....

Nexus what was the feel like in your table?

My table claimed to one-another.

[Benmage]

DGB

The hypocop result that was given to you on greyice slot....Was it alignment confirmed, or rolecop, or namecop? And it occurred N1? And you haven't gotten anything else?

[Benmage]

We could vote a town player to lynch, then have them choose the scumbag to be their champion, who we then vote to lose the duel and be killed? idk if that'd work.

OMG NEXUS U RULEZZZ

WHY AM I SO NARROWMINDED!!

Wait this can't work. The lynchee and his champion die.

[Benmage]

We need a VT neutralish player to take a dive.

I will think on this.

[Benmage]

Do we have any volunteers? Someone who will be lynched and pick a scummy player as their champion to go down with....

[Benmage]

OKAY SPAM! Sorry.

What if we vote Bunnylover and have her champion Setael or Thor. We kill these two. To cover our asses we have Nexus be the first voter who will champion Zednek. Worse case scenario we lose our RB but kill a likely SK and confirm BL as scum.

NEXUS VOTE BUNNYLOVER ASAP

[Benmage]

Seriously Andy?

Of course claimed cop gets killed.

We can't lynch Thor or Setael because they'll nom someone like myself...forcing us to kill our first voter and their champion.

MODS

the first voter and their champion die just like the lynchee and their champion die?? Or does only the first voter's champion die?

[Benmage]

Alright alright alright alright.... So we have Bunnylover vote Thor first. Thor must choose Setael. If he chooses anyone else we confirm him as scum. Bunnylover will choose Setael in the event that Thor doesn't.

That work?

[Benmage]

Only the champion (for the first voter) (I mean Lysa didn't die in Book 1 after Bronn won)

Ahhh touche.

Nexus, still town...or at least to far down on the totempole to be of much concern right now.

Vote Setael

I will nominate Thor in the event that Setael doesn't. This guarantee's Thor's death.

[Benmage]

I will nominate Thor in the event that Setael doesn't. This guarantee's Thor's death.

Yo, case would be nice.

Here's my case:

I always see scum go, where's my case where's my case.

[Benmage]

There's a reason scum aren't killing you if you're town y'know.

So whats the reasoning behind them not killing you?

[Benmage]

ON the subject of Kast, I'm wondering if his town-flip would confirm Zdenek; wouldn't Zdenek come out as Serial Killer or something? :S

Not if the SK is inv-immune.

Because people are confirm biasing and they see me as a mislynch? I sort of thought that was obvious, yes?

confirm biasing...PoE?....Yes, a mislynch.... whose fault would that be again?

[Benmage]

Could we get Hascow to shoot Zdenek?

Zdenek is BP...this is Kast confirmed. Which makes sense for a SK to be anyways.

We'll just have you rb him again, until he's ripe for plucking.

[Benmage]

I think Thor and Setael should be claiming today.

[Benmage]

My plan is better in that it will either get us two scummy-lynches, or get us a scummy-lynch and a confirmed-scum-lynch-the-next-day. That is, it makes the duel work to our advantage.

Yes, this is what I suggested only with voting Setael to nom Thor...Who if he doesn't, I will nom. If Set noms Thor we all have my champion whoever it is defeat thor killing both Set and Thor.

ANDRIUS IS UNTOUCHABLE. Magua. Trust me on this my friend.

We need to lynch Zdenek and Thor.

He killed Kast.

Also, I might have killed Kast

We could nominate Zdenek to "defend" Thor.

Nah Zden's not in this equation. We are going to RB him again.

Suggest someone better than Set and Thor. Right now that is the best combo I see. Andrius is 100% out of the equation, and Zden is illogical as well.

[Benmage]

Suggest someone better than Set and Thor.

Magua and BL

Try again.

Andrius is 100% out of the equation

I'm past the point of caring about softclaims. What is the report that you received?

Is it massclaim time? If not, stop being antitown.

That's rather few people left to be the scum: Setael, DGB, Thor, Twilight Sparkle, danakillsu, Benmage is about it.

Actually Dana is very likely town due to Kasts results. And I can mod confirm myself...Sooo yeah...lol

WHY NOT SET/Thor?? Clearly our best two...PoE.

Wasn't gonna support Magua's plan until I understood it.

The heck does "continuing to verify the roleblocker" mean? Please explain how that tells us what Nexus's alignment is.

-A killing entity could've chosen not to kill to frame Zdenek.
--There could've been overkill
---We RB'd the SK...lets double confirm this by RB him again, harming?? Noone.

[Benmage]

BTW.....is it massclaim time?

I'd be ok with it.

[Benmage]

There's plenty of reasoning to support scum or sk setting up an unnightkillable townie for a mislynch ....having another night to RB and make sure we see only 1 kill is 10X more logical. That drastically reduces the chance for overkill and makes a non town entity now not shoot for 2 nights to setup the mislynch which is much worse for them then simply one night.

AND ZDENEK CANT BE SCUM. I seriously question people's intelligence when I see comments suggesting otherwise.....he was told in thread he was being roleblocked....no scum team would have him submit the kill....could he be sk? Sure.

[Benmage]

Yeah. We can't let a SK saunter in the public places with a vote, all day long, and rely on a RB that could otherwise net us some mafia.

For atleast today while everything is mapped out we absolutely can. Our claimed BP townie needs to play nice to ptw.

[Benmage]

DGB is saying she was told by the mod N1 that greyice is town.

Last night, N3 I received information from the mod. I have not revealed it. I can say my information differentiates in form to that of DGBs so just because you trust me, don't auto trust dgb.

That said did any of us have a scum read on greyice?? On that premise alone we are putting pops on the backburner.

And I have said Andy is town. Nuff said for today.

[Benmage]

Also, Ben, if you can mod confirm yourself...um...do it?

Whenever we're ready to massclaim.

ANDRIUS IS UNTOUCHABLE. Magua. Trust me on this my friend.

See how I have you in "the dwindling list of people who could be scum"? So, no, I'm not going to just take your word for it. Out the report you received.

Don't care where you put me. I'll wait till the massclaim.

@benmage. Every single Stark has had a power. Traditionally, one player, one night action. We know zdenek's night action is passive. scumzdenek is totally plausible if his partner has a neat power to try and use at the risk of losing the kill.

In any case, if it's not town, you lynch it. Townzdenek is so far gone. It's just a legend now. The legend of the bulletproof townie that is rewarded for lynching his mates.

Scum could potentially both use their power and also kill. See Simpson's Mafia which just recently ended. REGARDLESS...there is no nifty ability that is better than KILLING.

I'm 99.9repeating % sure Zdenek is the SK....but an SK is miles away from a victory. I want to deliver a fatal blow to the scum today. And that's what we are doing.

What is the penalty of massclaiming here? Are you seriously suggesting that scum are pining for want of good nk targets right now?

-hito

QFT... I am seriously thinking this is the MOST LOGICAL course. I mean...we want two dead right....those 2 will be claiming anywyas... WE MIGHT ASWELL CLAIM.

Is it really that "common" I've never seen it happen.

It is retardely uncommon. KmD hosted one just to spite the idea that it's an always town roll.... Could these mods support that anti-standard theory...possibly. I reference KmD earlier this game. You can find his game linked in his iso in Gorrad's recently finished large theme game (i dont feel like searching it)

I guess my main problem here is, if you have Hasdgfas-scum who has already claimed to be a dayvig, why does he shoot Xtoxm instead of Raivann or Zoraster?

Yeah, there were plenty of VI's for him to shoot...but who would ever question a scumdayvig who shoots scum?? LOL does cow have the balls to force his scum team to do that??? I don't think so,

he's no Benmage

[Benmage]

MINA maybe jack of some trades roleblocked or doc'd the kill.

At this point...seeing a dead Kast. I am ready for a full claim. A doc would've/should've doc'd Kast...Even over my awseomeself...(well maybe not)

[Benmage]

Massclaim in the makings... I will start *give me a second*

[Benmage]

Our Beloved King Joffrey Baratheon I is dead. Tommen is but a boy. Not yet old enough to rule.

I am the Hand. I speak with the king’s voice. I command the king’s armies, draft the king’s laws. I sit upon the Iron throne and dispense the king’s justice. I and the realm are one.

I am Ser Osfryd KettleBack, brother to Osney Kettleback

(Andrius. He and I are modconfirmed brothers to one another…not masons because we don’t have a qt.."brothers"…plethora of crumbing all game)

knighted at the battle of Blackwater, forever a servant to the realm, the rightful king, and House Lannister.

We have had 91 days of discussion

(pages).

The time for talk is over. Everyone shall claim their allegiance to the realm, the true king, and house Lannister.(massclaim time) The Seven’s will show us who the remaining wolves are by trial by combat. Pray to the Mother for mercy

.

Benmage

- Ser Osfryd KettleBack brother modconfirmed town

Andrius

- Osney Kettleback brother

Hasdgfas

-Ser Ilyn PR dayvig (Payne Not hung enough to be scum)

Nexu

s- Margaery Tyrell RB

Shadow1psc

- Ollena Redwyne VT/The designer of the wedding tables.
TwilightSparkle- Ser Loras Tyrell VT
popsofctown- Jaime Lannister (told to me by the mods last night …oh Hai Magua)(also apparently alignment confirmed town to DGB via the mods)

Locke Lamora

- The Mountain the Moves Gregor Clegane

Zdenek

- Tywin Lannister BP
LynchMePls- 1 shot vig (need a nameclaim)
Danakillsu- VT (need nameclaim)

Thor665
Setael

Bunnylover
DrippingGoofball
Magua

[Benmage]

There is no order. Go.

[Benmage]

Here's my plan..and what I am doing.

I vote for 2nd scummiest person. (Setael currently) Hoping he falls on the sword nominating #1 scummiest person (Thor currently).

Bottom line we all vote Thor to be defeated.

If Setael doesn't nom Thor I do.

And you vote for whoever Setael did nom to pummel Thor.

[Benmage]

Oh yeah. And I banged Cersei apparently, so that's why I've been hitting her up.

Who hasn't.

You have a third?? Claim!

[Benmage]

BENMAGE.
DID YOU NOT EVEN LOOK UP THE FLAVOR?
THERE ARE THREE OF US.
I'll let Osmund claim for him/herself.

I read the books... i assumed Osmund isn't in the game...

[Benmage]

I wasn't told Osmund's identity in my role pm.. you were?

[Benmage]

Night 3 was Twilight Sparkle.

Go hide under a rock somewhere...Proxy role benmage

[Benmage]

Benmage, we're Brothers in a circle.
I know Osmund, he must know you, and you know me.
That's how I assumed it worked.

Woah... We're OP. Claim! I cannssst wait.

[Benmage]

Thats crazyness... SO he did have me modconfirmed... We're flipping broken.

That mEANS Pops is modconfirmed..

WHOSE GIVING US THESE MESSAGES!?!?!?! Scum?...Woah... I wonder if DGB's alignment confirmed is 100% true...then I'm effing baffled

Maybe Zdenek is their GF..that was an alternative theory.

[Benmage]

Andrius, did you have a modconfirm of Benmage's alignment?

Apparently its a circle. I have him modconfirmed. He has DGB, and DGB has me.

[Benmage]

I wonder if DGB's alignment confirmed is 100% true...then I'm effing baffled

That is to say... I wonder if DGB's message from the mods on POPS is 100%...DGB confirm that the message must be true?? Possible?

[Benmage]

I softclaimed pretty hard that I was going to shoot you N2, expecting that if you were mafia I would die and if you weren't I would live.

Quote.

[Benmage]

Nexus
Locke Lamora
Benmage
Andrius
Danakillsu
Hasdgfas
Shadow1psc
Bunnylover
popsofctown
DrippingGoofball
Shadow1psc
Bunnylover

Twilight Sparkle
LynchMePls
Magua

Zdenek
Setael
Thor665

Reduncoulous.

Rough sketch looking at pg 1...decending from most town to least town lets see:

TOWN
Benmage -

Hand of the King

Percy Ghostlin
Locke Lamora
Magua
Bunnylover
Danakillsu
Hasdgfas
Shadow1psc
Raivann
MagnaOfIllusion

7/8 out of 9? Not that bad.

[Benmage]

Magua I claimed for TS as TS claimed to me in the QT...like I claimed for SHadow

How do you not of Zdenek as a potential scum GF than?

[Benmage]

It's like we just raped the game with no lube.

Is there enough NK's out there. NK's will have to confirm BL...because BL will have to protect us masons...So BL will die before all the masons die.

thats 3+Pops+BL as 100% confirmable...With insanely close confirmations from the likes of Nexus, Cow....LL

With knocking out 2 "unknowns" today...its fucking mind bottling.

[Benmage]

Oh and dana as insanely close to modconfirmed (unless I see a goon)

[Benmage]

Ben, you actually got the message, how plausible do you see that as being?

Wierd as shit. Why would someone give a message to DGB alignment confirming Pops...and give me a message Role Name confirming Pops... (btw i just sent a message to the mod to see if the message is modconfirmable... we'll see DGB should do the same)

But I did have a town read on GreyIce

[Benmage]

Well that was fast.... I was told it's mod confirmed he's jaime lannister.

I wonder if DGB can modconfirm the alignment.. If soo

[Benmage]

BTW

No more votes yet.

[Benmage]

killing Kast over a confirmed tells me that rolecopping a scum shows something incriminating. Also makes me less believing in danakillsu-scum.

Yes I'm sure there are 2 scum out there Kast could've caught.

[Benmage]

Wasn't MoI very intrigued about overkill?

Who was it that suggested LMP could've been scum who sent the NK in?

[Benmage]

Yeah and this was MoI looking for overkill:

@MOD – was the lack of specific kill flavor intentional?

[Benmage]

I thought that dunce drunk of a Knight poisoned joff and helped sansa escape.

I want qyburns quote and flavor....he is one sick dude.

What's CPR doc again?

[Benmage]

I can't think of a town based role interaction that would cause this pm to go missing.

THINK.

In what world could there be scum motivation for Shadow to hide him getting this info from you????

Seriously...Try putting yourself in the persons shoes as scum. Would you do that as scum?? If the answer seems like: "FUCK NO thats illogical as shit"...he's probably not doing it.

[Benmage]

MOD can you prod Dana

And tell him to claim?

[Benmage]

I thought that dunce drunk of a Knight poisoned joff and helped sansa escape.

Whenever Littlefinger is involved, there are layers within layers. It is made pretty clear that Olenna was working with Littlefinger. She is the one that gave Sansa the hair net and she "straightened" it at the wedding. Later Sansa realizes one of the crystals was missing, and Petyr tells her that the crystals were actually poison. Thus Lady Olenna is the one who put the poison in the cup. Pretty sure it's all discussed end of ASOS or during Alyane's chapters in AFFC.

Well.. littlefinger Flipped TOWN.. Discussion. OVA.

Benmage
Bunnylover
DrippingGoofball
Andrius
popsofctown
Nexus
Hasdgfas
Locke Lamora
Magua
Setael
Twilight Sparkle
Shadow1psc
Danakillsu
Zdenek
Thor665

You left yourself out, but this should be the order:
Benmage
DrippingGoofball
Andrius
Bunnylover
popsofctown
Nexus
Hasdgfas
Locke Lamora
Danakillsu
Shadow1psc
Magua
LMP
Twilight Sparkle
Zdenek
Thor665
Setael

THOR

You said you're tired of the lackwits... Well, we aren't going anywhere and there's a lot of us. So do you want to be the one to NOM Setael, and have us lynch you..?

[Benmage]

I don't see how me not getting your wave automatically implies I'm scum either. I don't doubt you're who you are or think you're scum, I simply

didn't get a PM

. Why would I lie about that? What scum motivation is there?

Later in this thread this thought will be brought up as 'Shadow's idea' I will continue to be ignored for all contributions.

Benmage's idea.

Just because you wrote it first means nothing. I entered the thought into the collective conscious awhile ago..but wasn't at a computer.

[Benmage]

remember we vote Thor defeated in whatever scenario occurs.

[Benmage]

Are we actually trying to get Thor killed? That doesn't sound as good.

We are trying to get Thor AND Setael killed. Setael is suppose to nom Thor, and we will choose my champion to defeat Thor....

Setael not choosing Thor is equivalent to a scum claim by Setael....Also if he doesn't choose Thor, I choose Thor...and in this scenario you have his champion beat mine; Thor.....Bottomline VOTE THOR TO LOSE.

Setael has basically I'd say 24 hours to get back to us before we do this.

[Benmage]

It is very important to watch what you are doing.

Do not simply pick Thor. Read the wording...we don't want you accidentally picking Thor to win. You pick him TO LOOSE.

[Benmage]

Oh ya MINA we have a rolecop....who gets no info from a VT ..That would mean every goon was essentially a GF invimmune to our one cop.

Doubtful......also why would scum kill than????

Exactly. Dana is town.

[Benmage]

Setael

you pick Thor and Thor alone for your champion. If you pick anyone else we will autoassume you scum.

Hammer away boys.

[Benmage]

Setael there is no way to wiggle out of this. You claimed scum by not picking Thor.

Atleast have some fun in this last day.

[Benmage]

No more votes. Do not end the day yet. I have words.

[Benmage]

Setael if you flip town I promise to campaign for Magualynch <3

If Setael flips town he becomes arguably the worst player on the site in one fell swoop.

[Benmage]

Info still to come L-2

STILL NO VOTES.

[Benmage]

Setael if you flip town I promise to campaign for Magualynch <3

If Setael flips town he becomes arguably the worst player on the site in one fell swoop.

Unless Magua is scum. If Magua flips scum, you owe me an apology. If it turns out he's town, ok maybe.

Seriously though, put yourself in my shoes. Choice A guarantees a mislynch and possibly 2 mislynches. Choice B leads to either one mislynch and a scum dead or one mislynch. Also, if you choose B scum has to get one more townie mislynched. Choice B is clearly superior, so that is what I did.

BULLSHIT. Look at it like this.

In your scenario we killed Thor. And Lost Nexus/Andrius

3 dead townies.

However we are automatically lynching you today for not following orders. (For theatrical effect you will be town)

So now we lynch another townie...And have yet another night. In which we could very likely have 2 kills.

Leaving no less then 4 dead townies...99% 5 dead townies...and yet still very likely 6 dead townies.

^^^^^^This is the scenario you created if you are town.

Now had you been town...and followed orders you and Thor would've died.

We'd still probably lose Andy and Nexus.

Our net loss is 4 dead townies. However we have, as planned...removed 2 questionable characters, Thor and yourself...with one lynch.

You have dragged it out to two lynches.

Under my plans worst case scenario we net 4 dead townies. Under yours we net 6 dead townies. YOU Sir are scum. Or Literally the mostfailtownpersoneverIacceptyouaskscumbutthisbanteringissomewhatamusing.

[Benmage]

Seriously though, put yourself in my shoes. Choice A guarantees a mislynch and possibly 2 mislynches. Choice B leads to either one mislynch

and a scum dead

or one mislynch. Also, if you choose B scum has to get one more townie mislynched. Choice B is clearly superior, so that is what I did.

Can you explain it so a brainless numbskull like myself can understand it?

How does choice B ever lead to and a scum dead?? We we're voting Thor dead 100%.

Choosing B doesn't mean scum has to get another townie mislynched because scum are freely given the "mislynch" if you are town..because you didn't follow orders...they don't have to push shit. The modconfirmed player is pushing this. Meaning you gave them an additional night to kill. I.E. if you are town.. OMGUFS

[Benmage]

Oh, lol Setael is scum... I'm just having a jolly over here.

[Benmage]

Setael is probably scum with Magua.

I couldn't agree more.

OKAY so we lynch Setael today nailing a 4th Stark.

Bunnylover. You protect me, and ME ALONE. Sorry DGB, I got this one….this way there’s no wine. And BL can’t not not die before me. (think I got those negatives right)

Zdnek is still probably the SK.

Magua who was pushing against this theory for the longest time just ate face. In fact the most likely reason for Nexus to not have RB’d Zdenek would have been because of Magua.

Could Magua have been faking his one shot vig kill on diddin as the SK’s kill as some sort of scum gambit knowing the SK could never logically CC….possible.

LYNCHING ORDER:

Benmage - Hand of the King
DrippingGoofball
Bunnylover
Danakillsu
Hasdgfas
Shadow1psc
popsofctown
Locke Lamora
LynchMePls
Twilight Sparkle
Magua
Zdenek


Setael

[Benmage]

Ooops with that I meant to

Vote Setael

BUNNYLOVER PROTECT ME

HAMMER AWAY!

[Benmage]

There's honor in fighting to the death, Benmage. Players should play to their wincon until they are no longer allowed to post.

Don't lecture me about Honor Kingslayer!

(Bored...lets do this! )

[Benmage]

don't we have one fewer NK?

Potentially.. I'd rather take the guarantee.

[Benmage]

Mina, noone voted Magua because we all believed Thor was flipping scum.

Anyways I got dinner but I'll see if I can check back in later.

[Benmage]

Uh right. I meant to do things last night, but passed out. Ill be here after work later tonight for sure.

[Benmage]

Uhmmm why he's L-1...unvote someone.

[Benmage]

Nvm, I handled it. Going to work. I'll bbl, enjoy.

[Benmage]

2 things because I am at work and obviously can't address much.

1. Kast investigation on Zdenek. Where is the argument he is scum? The people who think this believe him to be a BP scum, and obviously not the GF......wow. a simple correct will suffice.

2. For those who think Zdenek the SK if that's still thought by some, what logical reasoning would nexus have for not rbing zdenek?

And lastly there is something I wanted address specifically and obviously more.

So do me a favor and hold off on votes.

Dana is confirmed town too....

[Benmage]

I've never seen a game with a fully BP scum who wasn't the GF.

[Benmage]

I've never seen a game with a fully BP scum who wasn't the GF.

How many games have you seen with scum Neighborizers and town Rolecops?

I could get you games like that. Not now obviously.

[Benmage]

But yes, you answered my question with a question....can you answer the question, because based on your last response I am assuming no.

[Benmage]

I could get you games like that. Not now obviously.

Great. And I can get games with scum Bulletproofs who aren't Godfathers.

Thats what I'm asking for...

Do you have any reason for thinking Zdenek is town aside from the role?

Other than I recall him being pretty genuine and quick in his claim. Nothing. Shitty game. Does that mean nottown. I don't know...but I've been tossing around a lot in my head. (more cont:)

But yes, you answered my question with a question....can you answer the question, because based on your last response I am assuming no.

#2525 was pretty explicit, I thought.

In regards to? Why he's stark??...not asking that.

Pops.

Do you think Zdenek is SK, or Scum?
--U also linked a blank site, I guess for laughs….

TS

did you think Zdenek was scum or SK?

Also, you think Zoraster was given a lynch target who was also

NK-immune?

Really?

Benmage: I think Nexus blocked Setael N4. You think that's implausible?

UHHH yeah infact that makes a lot of sense considering if he was NK'd he wouldn't be lynched....

And. While I don't think it is implausible (duh horrible word choice nothing is absolute)...I certaintly wouldn't have blocked anyone other than Zdenek after everyone other than magua more or less said that was the ideal move...and there was a kill apparently blocked the previous night.
-----Would you(or anyone) in his shoes not have RB'd Zdenek... POINT MADE.

Now why would scum have had Zdenek shoot the night there was one kill, the night everyone told Nexus to RB Zdenek….??

Someone setting up a BP townie?? IDNO!

Also how does a SK defeat a BP Scum? Fucking seriously????

Finally, and back to the investigation. WHO else in the series other than TYWIN could've been Modified BP after Tyrion's death???

I have to run to the gym, still more to come.

[Benmage]

OH and DANA is off my lynch Table because there have been 0 goons and he was investigated as a VT.

The GF was in my book inv-immune. All goons auto invimmune too?? FUK NO. DANA IS MORE CONFIRMED TOWN THAN I AM.

[Benmage]

So Magua, Zdenek is the final scum?

And there's still an SK about?

[Benmage]

His play is atrocious, move on.

[Benmage]

vote Locke

I'm thinking this is wrong, but lets do this mislynch here than.

I'm dead.

Lynch magua before TS.

[Benmage]

unvote vote magua

[Benmage]

unvote vote magua

lolwut?

PoE there is noone else.

[Benmage]

Pops is modconfirmed Jaime lannister. That's town.
Dana is investigated VT. That's town.
Cow is Payne who shot xtom. That's town.
LMP is qyburn CPR doc. Flavor checks out. Early claim and motive makes sense. D2 claim with other killing entities doesn't make sense. Unless he's the sk. Unlikely nonetheless. Cause D2 claim his delayed full claim etc etc was askinn for rbs. His feysal push uncharacteristic of nontown. That's town
Shadow has played a town game. Was table conductor. Is least mechanically cleared, is most Mafia cleared. That's town.
LL, the mountain that moves. Is lannister vanguard. Is town. Had a lyncher, pops is right about the mechanics and ll simply killing zoraster. That's town.

Whose left???
TS? Claiming VT ....not good. But Mina is town.

So zdenek who will die tomorrow, and magua.

That's it. It has to be that. PoE.

[Benmage]

Mod

in a clash of kings what message would the cop get if he was roleblocked??

[Benmage]

Mod

in a clash of kings what message would the cop get if he was roleblocked??

I see no reason to answer this question.

Was it not open information?? That games over...

[Benmage]

Mod

in a clash of kings what message would the cop get if he was roleblocked??

I see no reason to answer this question.

Was it not open information?? That games over...

If it's public information it's be available to you (via the thread). I'm not answering questions about past games. (there is also precedent for this in Clash, actually)

Alright alright, myb on my phone and was just pondering. But looking back at last he says "no role name" which makes me think he got that specific message.

Dana is still conf town.

Zzzzz VC?

[Benmage]

LMP, shadow and cow....vote somewhere it matters.

[Benmage]

Cow, point to your lynch order going from first to last.

[Benmage]

Who does TS think the SK is?

[Benmage]

Zdenek, what do you think about my plan?

I am opposed to any plan where I end up being lynched.

Thats a nontown claim.

[Benmage]

Zdenek, what do you think about my plan?

I am opposed to any plan where I end up being lynched.

Thats a nontown claim.

YOU GOVERNED HIM

One aspect, was that I felt noone knew if they we're lynching SK or Scum...and I couldn't (at the time) fathom him scum.

I still am baffled at his role. Twyin is the only logical player to get changed after Tyrion dies... And he was investigated by Kast.

So my head simply spins.

Stark need to realize that the SK is bulletproof, and that if I can't win, I'm going to help the SK win.

This. Although the SK probably only has to hit 1-1 to win, and so could theoretically win if Zdenek was BP scum or BP town.

[Benmage]

I still am baffled at his role.

Twyin is the only logical player to get changed after Tyrion dies...

And he was investigated by Kast.

There is no reason to believe that the bolded part is true. That is,

there's no reason to believe it has anything to do with Tyrion dying at all.

The only thing we know for 100% fact is that his role is "Modified Nightkill Immune".

Damn...thats true... wine, wine, wine-ity, wine.

ZZzzzz If Zdenek was gone today, everyone would be twiddling tomorrow?? So enough about spilt milk.

[Benmage]

SHADOW

Can you place your vote now instead of waiting since you said you will.

You said TS or Magua. I'd still rather Magua go first. Please vote.

LMP.

You said you liked Magua's plan. DANA isn't being lynched today 100%. Please place your vote somewhere useful.

[Benmage]

Fuckina, today's been fun. I bet the dead qt will be enjoyable, here I come boys.

unvote vote lmp

MOD pm me zdeneks identity in my dead pm please.

[Benmage]

Deadline is a little over 3 days.

[Benmage]

It is baffling. The ones voting for him beliebe him to be a NK-immune (possible inv-immune aswell) SK.

So there's a third party who must lynch a third party. (Fine)
-They can't be NK'd, so point in favor of the lyncher.
--Lyncher can be NK'd...so has to attack lynchee.
---Lynchee can NK. Lynchee NKs pest Lyncher.

I don't see LL being the SK either. Plus Zoraster...the Lyncher, Named LL as the Mountain. Sorry but the Mountain is a Lannister!

Magua is the ideal PoE lynch.

LMP because...

[Benmage]

Hold the phone...and I am literally on my phone.
don't lynch TS.... the night kast died. Only kast died.

Why does an inv immune SK fear a cop?

TS can't be sk.

Plus the likely hood of zdenek being RB and scum having him submit the kill is impossible at this point
...right?

[Benmage]

Hold the phone...and I am literally on my phone.
don't lynch TS.... the night kast died. Only kast died.

Why does an inv immune SK fear a cop?

TS can't be sk.

Plus the likely hood of zdenek being RB and scum having him submit the kill is impossible at this point
...right?

I have no idea what you're getting at here.

TS should be confirmed town.

Lets review somethings that happened.

N3 Some believe there to be 2 Starks (Setael Zdenek) And an SK left alive.
N3 NEXUS was RB Zdenek and Zdenek ALONE.
*****Why would scum have Zdenek perform the kill?
Conclusion: They wouldn't.
Cont: The Starks/Setael killed Kast.
Q: But Benmage, why would the Starks kill Kast when Zdenek was already investigated and Setael was immune?
A: Setael was doomed,

and further VT investigations confirms more town. Like Dana.

Question for All:
Where's the SK kill?
DING DING DING The SK shot TS and Bunnylover Saved him.

Counter Question: But Benmage couldn't the SK have feared confirmed townies as well?
A: Unlikely when they themselves could be "confirmed" For who thinks in a large game like this the SK whose role is already hard must defeat Town, and this Stacked ass Scum team. No no no. The SK is double immune.
Conclusion: The SK had no desire to kill Kast.

FINALE:
If you believe Zdenek a BP final scum. TS cannot be the SK.

[Benmage]

N3 possibilities:
1) SK and Mafia both shot Kast. This is what I personally believe, and is the reason I don't think danakillsu is the SK. He has zero reason to fear Kast-the-rolecop, as he was already rolecopped.

An inv-immune SK, which I am saying it HAS to be. Wouldn't fear Kast whatsoever. And therefore would have no desire to kill Kast.
(Not to mention the kill had we had a doctor shouldv'e been blocked(The scum made the gamble, I don't see an SK needing to do this))

2) One shot Kast, the other shot Twilight Sparkle (who was protected by BunnyLover). That'd be a weird kill. Then again, I thought xvart was a weird kill.

This is what I believe. The TS kill shot makes a lot of sense coming from a SK.

[Benmage]

TS kill makes no sense to me. TS had been a major wagon D2. Why would scum shoot there when they had bigger fish to fry?

Benmage is grasping. And I hate this "confirmed" shit.

I think the only practical wagons today are myself, TS and Magua (who I don't think is SK, but seems more plausible SK than LL).

No. When I'm a killing faction, and there's other nontown killing factions, and I feel like I'm behind (As an SK must always feel). Than many things are weighed into my kill selection.

One being overkill. I am looking not to overkill. I am usually looking to kill this opposing non-town faction as well. The TS shot could've been several of those reasonings.

HOWEVER

It makes NO SENSE to have a double shot at Kast, or a shot at Zdenek.

[Benmage]

TS kill makes no sense to me. TS had been a major wagon D2. Why would scum shoot there when they had bigger fish to fry?

You can't assume/speak for everyone.

BL found TS town enough to protect.

Ding ding ding.

[Benmage]

LMP what do I have to grasp at???

I AM MODCONFIRMED TOWN.

I am dying tonight.

I want proper lynches after I am gone.

AND that involves MAGUA going before TS.

[Benmage]

TS should be confirmed town.

1) Why do you imagine the SK has to be investigation immune?

2) Even if the SK has nothing to fear from Kast,

WHY DO YOU THINK SK WOULD SHOOT TS OVER THE MOTHERFUCKING ROLEBLOCKER?

JESUS H. CHRIST. AT LEAST PRETEND TO PLAY.

You know everything I said to Zoraster D1 about how Governor can't be bad for town? I was wrong. He was right. GODDAMN.

Nice snipe that is irrelevant to the discussion here....mm mm i'm lovin' it.

1) An SK's WC is insansenly hard. Balance wise this seems fair. He was in aCoK.
2) The RB was stuck on a stark/not him.

[Benmage]

Furthermore, Benmage, you can't say "dana == confirmed town" and "investigation immune SK" in the same post. You pick one or the other.

Oh. Dana = confirmed not Stark.
Which is what the Starks dislike.

Happy?

[Benmage]

So you're saying the SK sees two confirmed PRs, popsofctown-who-DGB-said-she-had-a-hypocop-inno-on, Benmage-the-governor, hasdgfas-the-confirmed-town, Locke-Lamora-the-lyncher-target...and they shot TS-who-was-the-second-leading-wagon-D2?

That's seriously what you're saying is the most likely probability?

Break down what you're seriously saying and then back to me.

All those people... ARE ZOMG... Still alive.

And again. BL protected TS.

[Benmage]

Break down what you're seriously saying and then back to me.

All those people... ARE ZOMG... Still alive.

And again. BL protected TS.

Yes. They're all still alive.

From this I deduce that SK shot Kast N3.

From this you deduce that SK shot TS N3.

Do you see the point where I think you went wrong?

And I am calling the SK inv-immune. WHOMEVER THAT MAY BE. Therefore the SK has NO desire to kill Kast.

See where I am coming from?

[Benmage]

And I am calling the SK inv-immune. WHOMEVER THAT MAY BE. Therefore the SK has NO desire to kill Kast.

See where I am coming from?

And then this SK, who has no desire to kill Kast, has a desire to kill an unclear who's moderately suspected over the host of available clears/PRs/confirmables/people who weren't getting wagoned D2?

Do you see where *I* am coming from?

Like I said an SK, doesn't want to overkill.

Might have been looking to kill a Stark?

******Its bad to ASS-U-ME. BUNNYLOVER PROTECTED TS.

[Benmage]

Like I said an SK, doesn't want to overkill.

Might have been looking to kill a Stark?

******Its bad to ASS-U-ME. BUNNYLOVER PROTECTED TS.

So you assume SK is investigation immune.
You assume SK did not kill Kast.
You assume SK *did* kill TS.
You assume TS is not Stark.

Do I have that right?

That seems about right.

You assume the SK is Dana, or is not inv-immune.
You assume the SK and the scum team shot Kast.
You assume TS is not stark.
You assume Zdenek is stark.

Do I have that correct?

[Benmage]

****Magua just must go before TS.

Remember this.

[Benmage]

Id be happy with LMP or Magua.

[Benmage]

why does magua have to die before ts

Because I just spent the last...forever. Spelling out why I think TS is town.

Considering they are both low on the PoE totem pole. I am saying Magua first.

[Benmage]

Actually, my theory is that Magua is the SK. Why? Aside from that I've found his interactions re: the existence of an SK and the execution of his claim very phony, I think it's likely Nexus RB'd Zdenek again, given he followed orders last time (perhaps Kast was double-killed on N3, or the SK targeted Twilight Sparkle). Also, I can believe Magua as diddin's killer, and some of his scumhunting has felt genuine. He's definitely played a great game if he's group scum.

I feel way less rage at being called the SK than scum.

I'm not the SK, but if I were, I could take a great deal of satisfaction out of the fact that would mean I shot 2 scum while you all have managed to lynch zero. Sadly, I can only claim to have shot 1 scum while you all have lynched zero.

I've also looked at this many many....MANY times.

Sadly, I can only claim to have shot 1 scum while

you all

have lynched zero.

Something linguistically just screams to me that this person isn't with the town.

Magua has been a rollercoaster of a read. At times I would swear he was town. PoE is against him. There's other instances where I see strikes. Then this.

[Benmage]

Unvote vote Magua

[Benmage]

Magua is the only possible lynch know....can we get it done, not minutes before a deadline....

[Benmage]

Zdenek today, TS tomorrow.

vote Zdenek

One killing entity gone.

Puts us at 5-1.

4-1 tomorrow.

Lynch TS.

If game doesn't end lynch LMp in lylo.

[Benmage]

Zdenek today, TS tomorrow.

vote Zdenek

One killing entity gone.

Puts us at 5-1.

4-1 tomorrow.

Lynch TS.

If game doesn't end lynch LMp in lylo.

I'm calling it. LMP and Zdenek. If TS is scum, good game to them, I've never seen scum put forth the effort they have. Even for three people, the diagrams, notes, walls, entirely relevant content, and not to mention the whole morse code thing breaking the wedding open. LMP before TS.

Either way. Works out. LMP can go first. It doesn't matter.

[Benmage]

I'd actually rather see TS gone after zdenek.

There's 1 stark left.

So lynching lmp if town could put us into the kingmaker scenario TS is hell bent on having us declare how we'd act.

We lynch Zdenek today and that's that.

[Benmage]

Its a stretch calling lmp stark.

Therefore we lynch zdeneck.

Because there is 1 stark left.

[Benmage]

Geeeze.....zzzz..Hammer pls.

[Benmage]

A hands days are too long

and lives are too short

bah?