Battle for Olympus - Game Over!

[AGar]

She doesn't always drink Dos Equis
but when she does

ho ho ho she beats her family

God dammit it's

"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I beat my wife and children."

LEARN2NOTFUCKUPJOKESKTHXBAI.

VOTE: Quadz

I caught you you conniving bastard!

[AGar]

AGar: NEWBIE 965 WAS LONG AGO.

INDEED OLD FRIEND (ARE WE FRIENDS?) BUT I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN!

[AGar]

AGar: NEWBIE 965 WAS LONG AGO.

INDEED OLD FRIEND (ARE WE FRIENDS?) BUT I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN!

WE ARE TOTALLY FRIENDS.

WHEEEE

P-edit: MoI, USELESS POST. Just sayin'.

Actually I disagree since I was able to come to the conclusion that a Mod vote is a small meta Town tell for Snow Bunny. Recent events and past experience have shown that players without a propensity for doing a Mod / Invalid vote who open RVS with may be Scum-telling.

C'mon, I know you're better than this.

That as a small meta tell is so easily manipulable it isn't even funny. :/

Other than that, claim was good.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Gemini

The passive-aggressiveness in 37 is terrible. Let's goooooo, wagon!!

[AGar]

EBWOP:

To clarify, SB is admittedly aware of that "tell" as a part of her meta, so she is more than capable of manipulating something like that to her liking/advantage.

[AGar]

However, point out the passive-aggressiveness in Gemini's post. I don't see it.

Sure thing.

@Snow Bunny

You gonna make an actual vote or not?

Why do you ask this? It's not like the votes on players are that "actual" at this stage of the game. Not everyone likes to random vote at the beginning. I guess same question to Dekes.

^ This.

"Why are you questioning her, dude? It's totally not called for."

But no vote, or followup. Just a very weak jab, serving no purpose really.

[AGar]

The tone of the question was quite aggressive, which lead me to believe there would be more pressure of any kind, which there was not.

[AGar]

I was wondering if you would go this way. Neither of those arguments holds any water.

So how about this one: Your whle argument is based on the preassumption that I was in deed buddying scum - in case I am not the whole things falls apart to "I don't agree with Shadow -> Shadow is scum." And that should make you reconsider the whole thing twice.

Your argument breaks down then as you were the only player to suggest I was confirmed in the least. And you clearly aren’t following me.

How does my argu7ment break down there? It leads to the valid deduction that I am not an easily impressed townie right now.

Ok, so it was pure fluff. Understood.

Exactly! That one single paragraph was fluffyfluffy toilet humour posting!

1. The accusations against you at that stage when CMAR posted were two-fold – firstly that you ‘slipped’ and didn’t realise Greek Gods were Town because you were scum and second that you buddied up. CMAR addresses the buddying angle as Null so he can only be referring to the Pantheon slip.

I don't see much sense in discussing with you, what Cry meant.

This whole post is what bothers me most about SD right now. The first quote response is "Well what if your tell is wrong??!?!?!" Then it is a wrong tell... but your reactions have been all but right. The second quote response contradicts the whole acting as if MoI is confirmed town bit with the "not an easily impressed townie right now." A "not easily impressed townie" wouldn't just throw someone as confirmed town because they claimed hated townie. I see very rich motivations for someone to claim that as scum, in fact. Then exclaiming that something was fluff like "See! It was fluff! DON'T YOU SEE!" Aaaand then as MoI pointed out the interactions for the last quote are just lols.

This wagon is moving well in the right direction here.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: ShadowDancer

L-1, no one be a moron.

[AGar]

Hmmm.

UNVOTE:

I buy into this one right now.

[AGar]

Scum got fakeclaims. The prominence of his claim is irrelevant.

The most prominent gods are more likely in the game and thus not scum fake claims...

Not if the mods have a brain.......

Leave this one be, Gandalf. We must search out other avenues.

[AGar]

Does anyone think it might be significant that we have two dead statuses?

Do you mean the colors of the dead?

[AGar]

Oh ok.

I feel there is some significance, yes. Not sure what it is yet.

[AGar]

SD is not fakeclaiming unless someone here would like to counter-claim him right now.

End of discussion, case closed, and blah blah blah.

Let's find new scum.

P-EDIT: CHESSKID YOU FUCKING MORON LISTEN HERE.

[AGar]

SD is not fakeclaiming unless someone here would like to counter-claim him right now.

End of discussion, case closed, and blah blah blah.

Let's find new scum.

P-EDIT: CHESSKID YOU FUCKING MORON LISTEN HERE.

What on earth is your reasoning for this?

Are you really this dense... it's role-related. Leave it at that.

[AGar]

HE'S GOT THE SCUM VERFSION OF MINE
I'M SURE OF IT

UNLESS YOU ARE NAME-CLAIMING POSEIDON, NO.

[AGar]

Ouch, that cuts deep.

VOTE: CryMeARiver

P-Edit: Ranger, care to clarify the end of that post? What might the scum do?
P-Edit: Mothrax, I was attempting to soft-claim it all along, trying to keep from having to out-and-out say it.

[AGar]

But it's noted you are trying to use that as a defense.

My defense? Lol. I won't defend myself any more. I was just wondering on what grounds that annpying chesskid is doubting my claim.

You obviously can't read if you don't get it.


But vote CMAR. Be a good follower now.

[AGar]

Dear Gemini,

What are your reads?

-AGar

[AGar]

AGAR
ARE YOU
100% SURE HE IS NOT SCUM?
LIKE
IF HE IS SCUM
WILL YOU CHANGE YOUR FACE TO A TOAD?

IF HE IS SCUM ANDRIUS IS LYING TO US. ANDRIUS SAID ALL GREEK PANTHEON GODS ARE TOWN.

I have role-related info confirming that Poseidon is in this game, and not as a fake-claim.

[AGar]

I'd kind of like to know just how sure Agar is too. For future reference an all. Says it's role-related, which is fine, but how sure?

... Are you not reading my posts? Seriously.

[AGar]

Hmm.. I can get behind a Diddin wagon right now.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Diddin

CMAR had a lot of cognitive dissonance in his posting about SD, which was the main backing for my vote, but Dekes highlights a decent few points in 221.

[AGar]

Poseidon is not just prominent - he's one of the top three gods. Zeus, Poseidon and Hades are basically brothers and in a sort of class above the rest of the gods - when the world was divided in three, they each got one part of it to rule (why Hades is so pissed - he got the shaft).

Which is exactly why at LEAST one of them is probably a fakeclaim.

Drop it for now, Gandalf. Drop it and vote diddin with me.

[AGar]

AGar claims to have role related info that not only am I town, but that Poseidon is definitely in the game? On D1 with no N0? Okay... I'm going to let that roll for now, but... yeah...

Where did I say you were town?

[AGar]

Read better.

And vote diddin.

[AGar]

You haven't proven I'm scum. Burden of proof is on you.

He's voting you.

Burden of proof is on you to convince him (and, by proxy, the rest of us) that his vote is misplaced.
Burden of proof is on him (and, by proxy, the rest of us) that our vote is justified and others should join us in

singing songs and holding hands

lynching you in a way most grotesque.

[AGar]

Gee Mothrax, if you know me so well then you'd know I've got ten kids. They do get in the was sometimes.

Lolno.

Diddin needs to die.
Quadz brings up good points on Dekes, but I'm not going to run headlong into that one atm, one at a time.
BS is... ugh.

CK, please don't really fall for Diddin's lame duckout.

[AGar]

Axelrod: That is unimportant at this point in time.

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MoI: Gladly. Mind you, my interpretation of the term is probably not as... intellectual as most. I'm a dropout and all, so yeah. You're smart enough to see what I see here, so I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm using the term incorrectly.

@SD's Page 3 antics: Either a terrible cumslip or people are reaching for a cumslip. I'm leaning reaching. I don't think that the him calling MoI town is necessarily scummy as I happened to do the same thing right up there ^ However I considered the possibility of him being scum, I just say that we need to consider him town so I guess there is a small difference.

I don't necessarily think SD is town, but I haven't found him to be glaringly scummy though I dislike one of his posts. I think the "scumslip" is sort of ridiculous, maybe because I don't really understand it. I think him calling MoI town is understandable and a nulltell, as I did the same thing and had the same thought when I read MoI's claim so I'm not going to call SD scum for something when I thought/did the same thing.

[AGar]

Crap, forgot to unvote.

VOTE: Diddin

Lol um... fail? :p

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I was pointing out that there's no scum motivation for BS to say "My kids distracted me so I typed the wrong player's name."

There's plenty. It's an appeal to sympathetic emotions (see your 324 for some effectiveness of it), and it allows one to detach any responsibility for a vote, and cover up a slip.

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Dekes' 235 is right on the money. I haven't been able to get any read on AV due to him being nearly invisible in the thread, & RoN is acting in a similar manner to Axelrod.

I'm happier with a diddin lynch over a BS lynch.

[AGar]

Axelrod: That is unimportant at this point in time.

Unimportant how? Seems like that would be one of the more important things we could get out in the open.

Maybe I'm missing something. Can you say what reason is there for you (or anyone) who knows that a particular role is in the game, not to say? I don't see how that negatively impacts the person who says. If they subsequently get killed, at least that information would be out there and confirmed at that point. It's almost like a Cop result (baring shenanigans of some kind).

It matters not right now whether or not I may or may not be able to clear another player at this or a later point in time. If you have a further line of reasoning to pursue this avenue, bring it forth. But I'm going to more than likely ignore future advances down this route by you, as you seem to have no other reason for doing it than blatant rolefishing.

[AGar]

Effffffff. Andy, dammit...

AGar, how does this affect your knowledge of the Poseidon role?

The "mafia" faction is compromised of a foreign Gods and/or Goddesses.

SD is not mafia. SK if there is one? Potentially. But not mafia.

@Axelrod

Drop it. The answer is no, so kindly go screw.

If Poseidon is the troubling sort of scum, we'll probably get water-flavored SK skills to go with it. I wouldn't support lynching him today.

That said, Poseidon being a non-town role would not surround me. In the original literature (if not the Disney movie), he's more anti-Greek than any of the other Gods IIRC. Certainly much more than Hades.

/spec

OH HAI SD's BUDDY TRYING TO KEEP HIM ALIVE.

Um what?

No.... you're dumb.

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Thoughts on SD:

Play is godawful. However, given the information that I have (and no Axelrod, in advance), I think it would be quite odd for SD to be an anti-town faction. Take it as you will. Sorry to burst your bubbles guys, but I think even with the boneheaded VI play, he's probably town.

[AGar]

...

SD, seriously, stop posting garbage like that. Or I'll lead the wagon on your right here, right now. Crushing "independent thinkers" is an easy way to propel a comfortable scum game. Now, care to actually provide something useful?

[AGar]

@quadz

Thoughts on Diddin's 405?

@SD

Seriously, you're not even attempting to be proactive on your own here, and you're just looking worse and worse each time you post. Start. Scumhunting. You don't need me or anyone else to hold your hand, there's 18 pages ripe with information here for you to actually do something with.

[AGar]

@Gandalf

Stop being a jackass. It would shock me a TON to see an anti-town ShadowDancer at this point, as bad as his posting has been. Stop hypertunneling on one post ffs, and vote Diddin.

@quadz

No remark on how Diddin was either illiterate or intentionally ignored the fact that the post was implying that Iec felt SD could be scum, not what he instead attacked it for (defending)? And half-meta-ing? Move your vote dude, we're not PLing on D1. That's about the most retarded thing a town can do on D1, second only to no-lynching.

[AGar]

Ugh, Gandalf is acting too stupid right now.

@Gandalf

Read this one more time: If Shadow Dancer was an anti-town faction in this game, I think Charon would be pushing the limits of a bastardly move given the information I have. Now drop it.

[AGar]

Hey chesskid, can you provide real content instead of worrying about prods? I would be more likely to agree with your reads if you provided some backing for them. You aren't Fate. (and even if you were, backing would be tech)

The way I see it:
diddin scum is likely, BSscum is likely, a scumflip from either makes the other more likely due to diddins interactions with the BS wagon, however, a town flip does not make either less likely.
BSscum is a better lynch overall, since on the off chance she flips town, it still removes an anti-town element and mislynch fodder early, when there is still room for such things.

TL;DR: "So I'm gonna call two people scum, and I'm gonna connect them. But I'm also gonna qualify both of them as individually scum so that way when one flips town, the other will still get lynched."

I suddenly feel very uneasy about diddin and BS lynches.

UNVOTE:

[AGar]

I'm also of the opinion that Gandalf is probably just really, really stupid town in this case.

[AGar]

If he is, I'd imagine it's in order to get his partners some bussing credit, because any scum even trying to fake dumbtown would be pushing their luck with his push on SD. And no one bit on that opportunity, so I'm going to lean dumbtown on him right now, either that or decent scum with dumb partners.

[AGar]

@AGar
Mothrax is doing nothing else than half the town does, including you: Thinking BS and diddin are scum and/or detrimental to town. He's only choosing the lazy way in suggesting using two lynches on them instead of letting night actions take care of business.
What would be your next best option? Only other thing in your ISO that reads as an accusation is CMAR/ooba.

Uhhh, what?

I was of the opinion that diddin is scum, and BS is probably scum. I didn't try and put a connection on either of them and then justify the scumreads on one in case the other flips town.

I'm also not a player I view as a potentially scum poking in and out and not giving us much to work with.

Diddin could still be scum here. The Mothrax post leaves the opportunity of "Lynch town then scumbuddy," but the whole "I don't care who goes first, we'll just lynch one then the other," part is what bugs me off of the Diddin wagon for now.

I'd move to Mothrax right now. You're moving towards the "Im not so sure that you're really playing with town interests in mind" area. Quadz is sitting scum-flavored null for advocating a VI PL on D1.

VOTE: Mothrax

[AGar]

I suddenly feel very uneasy about diddin and BS lynches.

I'm also of the opinion that Gandalf is probably just really, really stupid town in this case.

Fantastic. Who is scum? Having a hard time seeing any significant suspicions from your ISO.

Read the next few posts in my ISO, then. Maybe you'll find them there, who knows.

To be noted: In post 265 diddin votes Baby Spice for not revoting. Then in Post 298 He unvotes BS without mentioning her, and votes for Gemini for not voting. Gemini at the time had no votes, Where as BS was becoming a hot topic of discussion... now I see it.

FoS: diddin

There it is. If that doesn't infer a connection between the two players, I don't know what does. Yes, they are scummy together, yes I see a possible connection. Yes they are independantly scummy. Those are not mutually exclusive.

Great, so there's a connection, but at the same time - there isn't!

Good job there champ.

[AGar]

Then why even bother bringing the connection in?

Oh right, chain lynching.

[AGar]

Dude MoI is pretty much confirmed town due to the hated townie claim. Flailharder scum.

Uhhhh lolno?

Uh, yes it is. Logic only produces accurate output if it has accurate input. Gut instinct is based purely on yourself, and you know your motives are pure. So yes, I do think that logic in a non-open setup is useless.

Now this... this is just retarded.

[AGar]

I swear to god every time I read one of BS's posts, I want to beat my face through my wall. Being that the wall is faster, I'll probably manage to kill myself sooner than I will put my face through it.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Baby Spice

You can keep nitpicking, and you'll keep getting voted for it.

[AGar]

L-2 if I've counted right ..

Claim time !!

L-2 = claim time?

Since when?

[AGar]

The fact that he can only be scum if he's the SK doesn't mean he's not scum. What you guys are doing is essentially AtP.

No that’s not happening. At all. Do

YOU

know what an Appeal to Probability is? An Appeal to Probability is saying “The odds that the Town Cop scanned a Miller Day 1 and a Godfather Day 2 are so slim it couldn’t have happened!!!” (taken directly from a game situation.?

You are shouting “SD’s reaction means he is a Serial Killer”.

Everyone is effectively saying “No, it means he may be a 3rd party role”

Do you have anything that indicates that a Serial Killer must be in the set-up other than your gut?

If the answer is No then don’t bother banging that drum again. No-one is really going to care until there is more to go on.

Isn't there some ridiculous tell where early signs of SK hunting probably lead to an SK?

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L-2 if I've counted right ..

Claim time !!

L-2 = claim time?

Since when?

Barely any difference between L-2 and L-1 in a large game on D1 .. Saves time and speeds up things ..

L-1 should not equal auto-claim, in any game.

L-1 with intent to hammer is when claims should be rising out of the woodwork. There is plenty to be gained from a wagon that steams ahead to L-1 without a claim, it just takes a bit more of a brain than half the people here care to use it seems. Considering there is a competing wagon on diddin, and there are other suspicions flying around similarly, there is no reason to demand a claim at L-2. (BS is at L-1 now, for those keeping score at home).

[AGar]

Hm.

Problem is I think Gandalf is way too stupid to be scum AND have no votes on him by opportunistic bussing buddies, y'know?

[AGar]

Isn't there some ridiculous tell where early signs of SK hunting probably lead to an SK?

Not sure about that. My understanding is present thinking runs along the following lines – early game SK hunting as opposed to Mafia hunting is more likely to come from Mafia than Town. Something about not wanting to be worried about a wild-card killing your team off.

This is true. ITS ALSO TRUE THAT IF WE LYNCH AN SK WE GET RID OF ONE KILL PER NIGHT

SOMETHING THAT WOULD USUALLY TAKE 3-4 CORRECT LYNCHES

HOW DO YOU KNOW HE'S SK?

HOW ARE YOU SO SURE?

[AGar]

Unvote

Vote: Quadz

Hey Ieceeeeeeeeeee

No.

And no, BS isn't "obvtown." I want to see her active as well.

[AGar]

What is a power claim going to do for you

what if she claims
tracker
watcher
cop
1-shot bp
neighborizer

what good does it do

ITS A NO VANILLA GAME FOJIDSIFJIODFJISDFJSODIFJSIOFJSFODSIFJSDF

Because the claim should match up with the Goddess she is claiming to be. Poseidon JK makes sense. My power with my role makes sense in the context of my God/Goddess.

Now tell me, does Iris-Hider make sense for the messenger between the gods and the humans?

Because it doesn't to me.

I'm sticking with the vote here.

[AGar]

There is no visible double voter?

What's up chrono, one of your scumbuddies a double voter and you forgot that was in the QT and not in the thread?

[AGar]

I see no reason why BS lynch isn't a full-head of steam right now.

Fake claim is fake claim is fake claim.

Anyone ever think it could be possible she

intentionally

forgot to unvote?

Anyone? Bueller?

AV gets scumpoints for twisting people's comments in order to get his Dekes wagon.

P-Edit: Then why aren't you voting BS?

[AGar]

SB needs to post actual content. All he has done recently is tunnel.

[AGar]

Quadz, vote diddin with me. It's the right way to go.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Diddin

[AGar]

As we've already figured out, I have doublevoting for the day. Thanks CPie.

So obv Chrono is town. Scum with a "Lolyoucangrantdoublevoter" would be broken.

Gandalf's super is essentially confirm-town ability, as it's not lowering the threshold, it's just... whoever has the most fucking votes dies. It's a LYLO killer.

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Are we ACTUALLY discussing this "JESUS" result as being legitimate?

The game is called the BATTLE. FOR. OLYMPUS.

NOT BATTLE OF RANDOMASS RELIGIOUS FIGURES.

OLYMPUS.

JESUS ISN'T IN THE FUCKING GAME

NON-GREEK GODS/GODDESSES ARE MAFIA FACTION.

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Leaning scum on AGM, mainly because Andrius doesn't seem like the kind of person that would be like "Hmm, insane dude investigating someone... LOL THIS NAME." Insane flavor cop is really.. really borderline sketch of an attempt here.

I don't like AV though...

Lynch1 - AV
Lynch2 - AGM

Problem solved? There's at least 1 liar in this group.

[AGar]

In the interest of a few people throwing votes quadz's way, I'm going to ISO him to figure this out. MoI - do you have any other reasoning behind that (I'm guessing you do?) other than Chrono's "grace" thing?

Does anyone want to come forward and claim that he or she might be responsible for SD's jailkeep not working on me last night? If not, SD is a liar and needs-a-lynchin'.

Uhhhhh no?

No player stepping up to claim blocking SD != SD-scum.

Again, it would be BORDERLINE BASTARD MODDING for SD to be anti-town of any kind.

Before even reading quadz, Dekes jumps up to Lynch2

Lynch2: Dekes

[AGar]

Yeah, I'm not seeing quadz as lynch 2. I'm gonna need specific points here to sell me on this one.

[AGar]

MoI:

MoI - do you have any other reasoning behind that [quadz as Lynch2] (I'm guessing you do?) other than Chrono's "grace" thing?

[AGar]

Aight, just saw a few posts and wanted to make sure you saw it.

[AGar]

AGM still needs to die. With AV.

Why are we still sitting here?

[AGar]

@AGar

– Now I’m confused. I didn’t realize your had moved your Lynch2 vote to Dekes. Why are you asking why AGM isn’t dead when you aren’t even voting him Lynch2?

Because it's not an "official" vote, so I haven't been paying as much attention to it as I have just actions. I find Dekes and AGM both fairly scummy, but either or would do well. AGM is just sitting there being a jackass, so I'm more wishful for him to hang currently.

[AGar]

Quadz posting would be great so I can get a better feel for him. I'm middling hard on him as a lynch2 because I'm having a difficult time reading him here.

AGM is still a good choice for Lynch2, imo. AV voting doesn't confirm him as scum - he could be really fucking frustrated here as town. Scummy as fuck, but not confirmed. Hence why I'd rather see AGM than anyone else, not even to mention AGM's "Lulz I'm scum so I'll do absolutely nothing!" posting so far.

[AGar]

@Gemini: IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY ROLE

I have already fullclaimed my role. It has something to do with SOMEONE ELSES ROLE. Basically, I know that SD is not SK and that neither Dekes or SD is lying.

You're a liar if you're saying you knew that on N1 when you made your Night choice !!

You can't be this dense. You can't be this dense. You can't be this dense...

At this point I'm just ready to blow at this game. So much stupidity it isn't funny. Argh.

AGM needs the death with AV. AGM is playing scummy, just basically trying to coast and justify it. AV's whole claim reeks of shit. We have two lynches today. One is probably lying. This cleans up it all.

[AGar]

Gandalf, do us all a favor and do some real work. All we have seen from you is role and setup spec. That is in no way protown.

Better than what we've seen from you so far.

[AGar]

So how are we handling my doublevote? Where am I putting them? Split or both on 1? I can do either.

[AGar]

Ooba: :moonbeams: is what I think of AGM's claim.

Am I the only one who read quadz's post as "Jesus Christ can't be a solo role... I call bullshit!" ? As in, JC could be a 3rd party? Andrius has only given us two bits: Town players will be greek gods. Mafia faction will be non-greek gods. 3rd party could go either way, we could have JC the SK (lololol) or Zeus the SK. Both are possible under his flavor "guidelines" as I understand it.

[AGar]

I'm saying it's possible and plausible, not whether or not it is probable. AGM attacked him for calling him scum but not being his scumbuddy. Quadz responded in line by saying JC could be 3rd party. That's the line of thought I followed in that sense.

[AGar]

I read it differently. Huh.

Also, I'm under the belief that Snow_Bunny was a diddin kill. God of Slaughter. S_B's kill flavor was "slaughtered"

[AGar]

Ooba: :moonbeams: is what I think of AGM's claim.

Really? I also note that AGM was pushing anyone other than Quadz (the other leading Lynch2 wagon) with his Lynch2 vote. Unless they are scum together that doesn’t make much sense from a scum survivalist mentality.

I didn't take note of that.

Hm.

I'm really not big on Quadz as Lynch2, but I'll get behind it if that's the popular vote.

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Gimme a day to re-read this whole mess. I feel like I'm missing big pieces here to the puzzle. I'll be back with a more appropriate Lynch2 candidate in the next 24 hours.

[AGar]

I didn't take note of that.

Hm.

I'm really not big on Quadz as Lynch2, but I'll get behind it if that's the popular vote.

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Gimme a day to re-read this whole mess. I feel like I'm missing big pieces here to the puzzle. I'll be back with a more appropriate Lynch2 candidate in the next 24 hours.

This post is scummy. Both the agreement to just do whatever popular opinion dictates part AND the quickness with which you read and dismissed my claim as :MOONBEAMS:, but then came back to it in a new light the minute someone else prompted you to part.

I think your claim is still bogus-like, but MoI puts a good point on the table about your lynch2 vote. I really don't want to lynch quadz, but I'm not going to sit here and pigeonhole the town going "NO! CAN'T LYNCH!"

[AGar]

and AGar is an intelligent person.

...

...

I've apparently fooled someone.

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Alright, I'm really fucking confused now is what my re-read got me. AV needs to die, yes. As for Lynch2...

- AGM's claim doesn't gel with me, but at the same time MoI has a strong point about his vote pattern and not taking the survivalist route.
- Quadz has the most support, but I'm more null on this one now that he's clarified the JC = 3rd party bit. I still would rather lynch other players, but am open to compromise.
- Mothrax is doing absolutely fuckall.

Someone wanted Ooba to claim? Uhhh why? Same goes for Quadz - let's not just fucking have everyone claim right now please. It's not really gonna help us. Scum have fake-claims, and 3rd party either has a fake or is a Greek god/goddess.

Side-note: Ooba's recent posting is giving me all sorts of weird, ugly vibes. Do not want.

[AGar]

Someone wanted Ooba to claim? Uhhh why? Same goes for Quadz - let's not just fucking have everyone claim right now please

We have 7 votes for Lynch2 on Quadz. He needs to claim. I'm not going to claim - that was SD's misunderstanding ..

Ok, then yes he does need to claim. I didn't look at the unofficial VCs. And it seems most people are hung up here anyways, so.

[AGar]

Lynch1 - AV
Lynch2 - mothrax

Quadz treestumping himself is a double-edged sword. We lost a townie, but at the same time we now have his voice throughout the game, as long as I understand a treestump correctly.

Mothrax has done nothing but come in here and poke shots at different people and then exit the same, lurking hardcore throughout. Good money says that in a large game with as much going on here as there is, this is tactical scum lurking. Lynch2 should move here, folks.

[AGar]

If you want to talk to the mod about bastard modding try for the unannounced no-role flips.

I sense a dig at someone here heh.

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Almaster continuing to prove he's among the likes of Shotty in terms of capable play. Gotcha. You should like, read Day 1, or something.

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Axel rubbed me the wrong way on D1 with his prying, but D2 has been fairly null. Still like Mothrax better, as I feel like he's just trying to lurk his way out of this one here.

[AGar]

This is about his supposed "read" of me in this game. If he's Town, he should know the point he's making is not a valid point. I think MoI is actually very smart. So I am definitely holding it against him here that he's so off base.

But you can't say it's not a scumtell by pointing to a game where scum did it.

@quadz
Pretty sure I did.

- Moi attacks Axel for waffling about people attacking him ("I may just call them scum because they're attacking me")
- Axel says MoI can't use this as a valid scumtell because MoI did the same thing in Clash of Kings
- MoI was scum in Clash of Kings

No, You're still not getting it. I did the same thing in CoK. ME. I was TOWN. MoI KNOWS This (or he ought to). But he's still attacking me for it.

Selfmeta.. badbadbadbadbad.

Your partners are Iecrint and probably MoI.

SC, Iec, MoI scumteam gogogogo. Lynch me D3 instead so I can use my powerful (regular) bonanza and protect someone confirmed town, like Ooba.

Lololololololol.

VOTE: AurousVox
VOTE: Mothrax

[AGar]

Hush AGar. Ooba is confirmed town and you are not. Don't make me switch my vote to you for doubting this fact.

You're an idiot.

[AGar]

AV, you're going to flip scum soooo..

And

UNVOTE: AurousVox
UNVOTE: Mothrax

For now. These are my two choices, but I want to wait until I'm in position to hammer/assure the right two lynches go through.

[AGar]

Yeah, saying that you always play badly isn't an excuse for playing horribly.

You kind of missed the point. Anything fun or new to add to this?

[AGar]

AGM counter claimed? That must have been in the ten pages that I've not read yet...

Unvote;
Vote: AGM

Scumteam - Iec-AGM-[SD/MoI/Con]

SD scum would require AGar scum.

Just flail more, scumbag.

Waiting for VC before voting AV/ConSpiracy.

[AGar]

VOTE: AurousVox
VOTE: AurousVox

Double-hammer? Double-hammer.

[AGar]

Gandalf, I thank you. I do believe you saved my life on this one.

VOTE: LordChronos

@SD

With me on this one.

Also, there is a reviver or some other role relating to the dead in this setup. Note the movement of BS, Plum, SB and Diddin to the lower of the two dead columns after last night.

[AGar]

The "with me on this one" was in reference to your vote lol.

[AGar]

Moar LordChronos votes please.

Gandalf redirect gives me high suspicion to the possibility of LC scum.

[AGar]

Alright fine.

[AGar]

@Chesskid

At the top so you don't miss/skip it: are you simply an RB or does your normal have more to it?

AGar's Fun Facts:

- ConSpiracy was either not lying, or his mafia team had a roleblocker.
- Diddin shot Snow_Bunny N1.
- The "castrated" kill flavor is the only one to show up N1 and N2. Slaughtered was Diddin's flavor. "Turned to Sand" may have been the Egyptians flavor.

At this point, CK3 is claiming a block on LordChronos. SD, who did you keep last night? It may narrow down our pool of lynches.

I need to re-read LC in relation to ConSpiracy/AurousVox.

[AGar]

- Going by N1 kills, its obvious SB was a diddin vig shot. Therefore the other two are scum shots (Hider was dead and I don't see bodyguard or other dying roles).

So you rule out the possibility of a Super kill from either Snow or Dekes?

SB was diddin vig. This I know.

[AGar]

I was told via PM I had a doublevote. I wasn't aware it was being made obvious, so I withheld the information at the start of the day, but yes, I received a PM. And yes, role-based knowledge.

[AGar]

all my claim confirms is that LC didnt perform a kill.
Shrug

I'll block gandalf tonight so the fat fuck can see i'm an rber.

I have no doubt you're a RBer. That's not a valid excuse to block obvtown, sorry.

There would have to be crazy crazy gambitting going on for Chesskid to be a RB with ConSpiracy. Because as far as I can tell, Conspiracy wasn't lying. Or if he was, he was using a scumbuddies claim as his own. Which would be wtf.

[AGar]

I'm with MoI on Gandalf being copped. It'll give us a bit to work with here.

[AGar]

Gemini, I KNOW I'm right on AGar\Chess

Oh how wrong you are.

[AGar]

Life has gotten the better of me lately.

Now that we have that whole Dekes thing out of the way...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ooba

Not sure why we're just blindly agreeing to follow this guy, I actually don't see anything inspiring out of him. All I've seen is him and AGM going "lolAGarscum" without actually explaining why I would bring the Shadow Dancer lynch to a screeching halt and tie myself to him like that. And since they both seem to be reading town on SD, I'm equally as confused.

[AGar]

I notified Charon earlier today that I'll be replacing out. I may have cost myself my job last night, and I need to focus on actually getting my life straightened out rather than playing mafia right now.

-AGar

[AGar]

I think AGar was counting on scum NKing SD after he became confirmed.

Yeah, I was all like "I'll look town as shit, AND someone will kill him for me. Win/win."

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I'm so pissed I replaced out of this game. Long story short, that fateful weekend I overslept for my job on Friday night, got wind that I might lose said job on Saturday morning because I didn't show up/call until 6 hours into the shift because I was asleep, and went into panic mode. Quit all games, started cancelling anything that wasn't necessary in subscriptions and basically assumed the fetal position sucking my thumb for a good three days. I didn't lose my job. I didn't even get a slap on the fucking wrist, which is why I'm pissed I thought I had to pull out of this game.

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I was so pumped to have gotten Hades this game. The role was awesome, and I wish I had gotten to use it more. Still, mad props to Andy/DKU for this game, and mad props on the role.

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- Agar banking on scum killing SD & confirming SD just to get a "Confirmed town" status was just bad play.

Bad play for who? It snapped the town off of a mislynch, gave us a town player who shaped up and helped the town out a lot throughout the rest of the game. Bad play for my win con? Yes, but it was a gamble. Lynching scum and then having him die during the night seemed like a great potential idea. Didn't work out so much as planned.

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Also, Andy, you forgot my survey responses

[AGar]

Bad Ass Mother Fuckers stick together.

[AGar]

Woah woah woah wait.

Agar is: bad at following instructions, confident, and principled. That doesn't tell me anything. You?

How am I bad at following instructions?