Battle for Olympus - Game Over!

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Magna is probtown.

Oh and Magna please confirm/deny Hades

He hinted he had other powers and you asked this? ROLEFISHING RADAR

However, SD is scummier, not for the supposed slip (which is bs), but the buddy buddying with probtown MoI.

That also means that Ranger is probtown

Vote: Shadow Dancer

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@Ranger

Voting a player, as opposed to voting the mod. That should have been fairly clear from my post.

@diddin

How does SD's buddying and Ranger arguing with him about the confirmed-ness of MoI make Ranger probtown?

@chesskid

Who were you accusing of rolefishing?

Simple: I think SD is scum. Ranger is attacking SD, and I doubt scum would bus this early. Hence, Ranger is town for now.

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Also no asking MoI to nameclaim is not rolefishing
if he's faking I want his ass locked to a claim

He pretty much claimed he has more powers. Him rolenameclaiming would give you a guess at what those powers could be, hence, rolefishing.

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@Snow Bunny

You gonna make an actual vote or not?

Why do you care?

So far I'm not liking LC and SD.

Unvote, Vote: Shadow Dancer

. Either of them is a good place to have my vote now.

I see the slight towntell to the modvote but I see no pro-town reason for it. SB, can you explain

why

you sometimes find it useful to vote for the mod and why you decided to do it in this game?

Really? Why do you get the idea that I vote the mod because it is useful? Just like voting for a random player, it is not useful per se. It is the interesting reaction to those votes what IS useful.

Chesskid is playing as I remember him playing as town.

Chess has town and scum meta? Please, do share.

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Scum got fakeclaims. The prominence of his claim is irrelevant.

The most prominent gods are more likely in the game and thus not scum fake claims...

Not if the mods have a brain.......

Not exactly. There are so many possible claims left...

Bull. Well known characters are often fakeclaims. RC fakeclaimed Dumbledore in Harry Potter Mafia. Two of my scummates in KoL Mafia could fakeclaim two of the Ancient Heroes from that game. If the only fakeclaims given were gods who weren't prominent, we could just try to outguess the mod, which is frowned upon.

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THATS NOT ROLEFISHING

HE'S TRYING TO STOP A LYNCH OF OBVSCUm
IF HE'S NOT 100% ON NOT SCUM SD
WE'RE LYNCHING HIS OBVSCUM ASS

unvote, Vote: Chesskid

He's being scummier than usual, and trying too hard to lead. Plus if AGar is telling the truth Chesskid is likely scum based on having a similar role to SD.

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217-219 make me scratch my head... Dekes proposes a wagon on me, SD votes me at the slightest hint a wagon could happen, and then Dekes hops right on when he sees the wagon on me is getting somewhere? Not looking good for old Dekes here.

I didn't know this game was vanillaless, but my original point on Chess stands. He's still the scummiest to me.

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^BAAAAAAAAAAH

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217-219 make me scratch my head... Dekes proposes a wagon on me, SD votes me at the slightest hint a wagon could happen, and then Dekes hops right on when he sees the wagon on me is getting somewhere? Not looking good for old Dekes here.

I didn't know this game was vanillaless, but my original point on Chess stands. He's still the scummiest to me.

Yep, that's why I proposed the wagon.

And you didn't comment on my other point. Do you think it would make sense for scum-chess to cc town-SD on Day 1 and risk a 1:1 trade?

It isn't completely impossible. It's not necessarily that I am 100% sure Chess is scum, but he's my biggest scumread right now. I'd rather be voting him than not voting.

Chess, please disclose your magical methods for catching scum based on RVS votes. Or troll harder.

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I'm town this time chess, sorry.

Posts like the last one remind me why I try to stay out of games with people who play for the sole purpose of making people angry.

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You haven't proven I'm scum. Burden of proof is on you.

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unvote Vote: AurorusVox

With a bit of skimming I found a scummier read than Chess. Aurorus has been contributing little to no original content. He's simply restating what's been said a few times already.

I cannot defend myself from someone who is voting me for no apparent reason. I have already addressed the main points against me.

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hey diddin if you vote Chronopie I'll join you there.

Chronopie's unvote without revoting in his second post makes that tempting...

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unvote

Agar clears SD for the moment. Time will tell.

#217--#219 not good.
Deke's floating a wagon before joining, hell floating a wagon in a post attacking others, then joining, is scumy.


CK, are you saying good joke reason vs reasonless reason?

Vla the weekend

Bloodbowl tourney

Wait. You unvoted and called Dekes scummy, but didn't vote him. At least Chrono maybe didn't finish reading.

unvote Vote: Baby Spice

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@Snow_Bunny; do you think RVS votes in general are useful? Why wouldn't you want to do something useful (read: protown) at the start of a game?

That's a question with loaded wording and a trap, implying that SnowBunny if SNowBunny answers yes to part one, but didn't do it, she is scummy - untrue. There are a lot of useful and pro-town things one can do at the start of a game. Making a random vote is only one choice. You can also think that RVS is useful, but choose to use a different tactic if other people are already pursuing that route.

FoS: Auravox

^Because I also agree with this, MoI.

However I noticed something about Gemini in ISO. They have 3 FoS's and have expresses suspicion on a few others. They have NEVER voted. Looks like someone doesn't want to be called out for wagoning.

Unvote Vote: Gemini

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EBWOP: @MOI: At the time I voted AV, all Iece did was post in RVS and Chrono was still catching up.

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Chronos isn't leaning town >_>

Well, we've been reading him beyond is RVS.

Hey Gemini.

Would you care to explain how, in a game where we know the Greek gods are town and that other gods are the scum, raising up something from a different mythology, and nothing else mythologically related, is not a potential scumslip and worthy of pressure?

Sure … his post wasn't game speculation [ie - Hey I wonder if there will be a Gotterammerdung event in the game], it was a flippant off-hand comment. I don't see much significant in making a Ragnarok joke in a god related game even if it's not a Greek thing. It very much struck me as a sincere and simple joke and not a likely scumslip at all. In fact, I would imagine scum would be more careful - if they wee a Norse god they probably WOULDN'T be letting fly with casual Norse jokes.

BabySpice, sheeping Chesskid not even knowing who she is voting for. *facepalm*

BabySpice

, Do you even have reason for voting LordChronos besides that Chesskid said so? You said "nothing in whatever he has posted reads as town."

But does it read as SCUM? I have a lot of null reads, but I don't vote for null reads. So what about his posts reads as scum to you?

Ten kids sounds insane to me, but I feel like you are using that as an excuse for the fact that you are just following chesskid so he will keep yelling about voting for someone else besides you. I don't even get the impression you actually read Chronos's posts before making that vote.

@Diddin: I already said previously that in our hydra we are not voting unless both players are in agreement. Mockingjaye has had an unexpected guest so she hasn't had a lot of time to give input. The FoS's are to indicate who the hydra member would vote for and then if the other agrees we would vote. Mockingjaye is, however, in agreement on this one as of our last interchange so:

Vote: BabySpice

Just making sure. This caution is a slight scumtell, but I was just curious to see if you were voteless.

BACK TO BS

unvote, Vote: Baby Spice

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Umm considering I got off that top wagon to pressure Gemini, it's not just because it's the top wagon. I still consider BS the scummiest player.

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If Poseidon is the troubling sort of scum, we'll probably get water-flavored SK skills to go with it. I wouldn't support lynching him today.

That said, Poseidon being a non-town role would not surround me. In the original literature (if not the Disney movie), he's more anti-Greek than any of the other Gods IIRC. Certainly much more than Hades.

/spec

OH HAI SD's BUDDY TRYING TO KEEP HIM ALIVE

Not much has changed in the last few pages. SD is scummy now that he's unconfirmed, but I think BS is more so.

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Presumably SD will be able to confirm himself thruogh night actions as some form of roleblocker, since he's not mafia that suffices

Nobody is a VT so he has good odds of confirming himeslf

target someone scummy though, use it as a RB

^ to the last sentence, but don't aim for anyone you think a vig would want to hit.

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Just thought: What if there is ONE mafia faction that is non-Greek, and maybe another composed of Greek "traitor gods"?

I was wondering this too until I saw this:

The "mafia" faction is compromised of a foreign Gods and/or Goddesses. All players are either Gods or Goddesses.

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It's not the fact that Quadz wants to lynch VI's, but the fact that Quadz doesn't mention Chess in his VI lynches that mystifies me.

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Chess can be pretty accurate sometimes, yes, but he spends most of his time just being annoying and derailing good discussion. This is why I generally support PL's of him.

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@Gemini: Chess is ALWAYS scummy. It's just part of his playstyle. I asked if he had town/scum meta so I could know if there was an easier way to tell his alignment based on his play. I got no response, obviously. So, I voted him because he was being scummier than usual, which, at the time, was good enough reasoning for me.

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Examples of how i'm scummy or gtfo kthx?

I don't think you're scummy anymore, but I already talked about the rolefishing. The tunneling on Chronopie was pretty bad too.

"Hi, I'm diddin, and I've been tunneling Chess all game even though he's actually been useful and playing decently."

For Christ's sake. I THINK CHESS IS TOWN. My feelings about his playstyle do not affect my read of him at all, especially in a game like this where he is surprisingly readable.

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Umm considering I got off that top wagon to pressure Gemini, it's not just because it's the top wagon. I still consider BS the scummiest player.

I see you completely dodged my questions at 305. Here – I’ll requote them for you so you ABSOLUTELY can’t miss them.

1. Why didn’t you mention said post (Gemini’s post casting suspicion on AV) when describing why you voted AV originally?
2. So you agree with Gemini’s posts regarding AV and suddenly noticed that the hydra hadn’t voted yet which they specifically addressed in several posts was going to happen since they are a hydra? And that is vote-worthy?

To put it bluntly … so what? Lack of content is lack of content. How do you know AV wasn’t catching up? Why is only posting in RVS an excuse?

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1. I only saw it on a second skim, but agreed with it.
2. I saw it. I just don't and didn't like all the extreme caution coming from the hydra. I also dislike how they voted in the post replying to my suspicion for not voting. Thy crumbled under my pressure.

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Chess has a point.

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u just mad he called you out on lurking and sheeping

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MoI, nice mis rep, again.

Correcting your faulty meta read of me is not a null meta defense. It's showing your lies.

again you deflect and actually you yourself don't answer the question.

I'm thinking MoI def scum here.

unvote, Vote MoI

Known to spin all sorts of crap as scum, and imo, your spinning crap here.

Dude MoI is pretty much confirmed town due to the hated townie claim. Flailharder scum.

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Magna claimed a role that has to die in some way shape or form for town to win. If he's scum he pretty much ensured his death somewhere along the line.

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EBWOP: That is, Magna must die pre-LYLO.

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Although --

diddin, is there a reason you identified several people as scummy-by-way-of-dekes, but never really pressured dekes himself?

I feel that the people who sheeped Dekes are more likely to be scum than Dekes himself.

BS needs to power claim.

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I think BS looks pretty good unless the fakeclaims in this game come in the form of "full" PM fakeclaims. That, or BS is a clever enough scum that I'd be willing to let her live a few days on principle.

Do we know scum daytalk status? That would be a significant interfering factor.

^ Is why Iece is scum with BS.

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Iris? Hider? BULLSHIT. Hider being common scum claim? TRUTH

BS needs to be lynched.

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HI
DIDDIN HERE
JUST SAYING THAT HIDER IS A FUCKING COMMON SCUM FAKECLAIM AND THE FLAVOR MAKES NO SENSE

THAT IS ALL THANKS

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Hider that doesn't die if hides behind scum? SCUM CLAIM LOL

Iecerint's votehopping is lulzy, and he's avoiding BS like the plague.

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SB needs to post actual content. All he has done recently is tunnel.

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unvote

Vote: Iecerint

Let's do this.

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Also tell me why SB is town because I'm not seeing it.

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oh fml

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So I called AV and Dekes scum D1. Came SOO close to vigging Dekes. But I let people who tunneled me get the best of me. Should've just commuted N1. Still, good game played by all.

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I just looked back over my D1 iso, and I always called you town and asked for explanations for your being scum.

So I still dunno why you suspected me.

I suspected you D1 mainly because you seemed to avoid another of my scumpicks Baby Spice, but after that eh. If SD didn't die, Dekes would've.

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But BS already flipped town!

You were, after that, just a gut read. I don't know why I had a gut scumread on you, but I did.