StrangerCoug's Favorite Roles Return (Game over!)

[Parama]

vote: TheLonging

There is no better RVS vote.

[Parama]

unvote, vote: TheLonging

OMGUS.

Discuss.

[Parama]

You failed. You didn't capitalize my name.

You're a

LOSER

lolololol

[Parama]

TL's strategy is usually to yell at me all game until he determines I'm scum, even though I'm always town when he thinks I'm scum.

[Parama]

I think that if you called me scum every game we played in you'd probably be right some of the time <_<
And yes >_>

[Parama]

I haven't called you scum in EVERY game

How was Rikki?

Prove it

And what are you talking about?

[Parama]

I'm still not sure what you're talking about .-.

Can this go to PMs? Kinda irrelevant to the game and all.

[Parama]

Oh. I GET IT NOW.

But still fail to see why you brought it up.

[Parama]

okay, you've proven to me that you're, beyond doubt, town.

because this is such a TLtown thing to do <_<
And that's not a complement <_<

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P-edit:
Oh yeah, this is a mafia game isn't it?

[Parama]

Hey SC I'm going to probably push you down to 22nd soon, just FYI. Don't take it personally.

[Parama]

*looks at SC's sig*

[Parama]

I hope it be involving this grammars thing I'm heard about?!

[Parama]

It's just that your post seems grammatically incorrect.

You combined "what I'm planning" with "what I have in store" and the result was some grotesque abomination of english.

P-edit: that should be a clue that you shouldn't care <_<
P-edit2: Yeah I figured that out
P-edit3: GODDAMMIT. NINJAS EVERYWHERE.

[Parama]

VOTE: Jindori

Policy is my friend. Policy is my precious.

I'm starting to agree with C-Worl's post here <_<

[Parama]

Yeah, y'know what, screw it.

unvote, vote: jindori

[Parama]

It's kinda crap to keep an RVS vote on obvious town anyways.
TL, wanna join me in successing it up?

[Parama]

@Parama Can i ask why you don't want people questioning into this???? Seems a bit suspicious don't ya think.

what the hell are you talking about

@xvart
SC modkilled me in a game and then asked me to co-mod a few months later. I don't think he holds grudges... ever.

[Parama]

this wagon is totally and 100% policy btw.
but it's a great one. I can tell.

[Parama]

I think it was obvious to more than one player
Um the wagon is policy
The info you're asking for is, by definition, useless
Do you have a brain?

[Parama]

assuming I know what you're talking about, TL already said it, but the game is Furry Mafia

and deskhead at the self-vote. probably shouldn't complain though, because it's further proof that you're a great policy lynch always.

[Parama]

Well guys, jindori wants us to lynch him.

I must now find all SC modded games and see if there were any jester rol-OH WAIT THERE WAS BECAUSE I WAS IN THAT GAME. Yeah, SWNII had a Jester. Didn't hinder town's wincon. No reason to stop this lynch d(''d)

[Parama]

of course.
OF. FREAKING. COURSE.

rough translation:
RVS is already over? Good, this is going to be a tough game, and if you know French, you understand why the <word> is if bad... and I don't know that Jindori plays less, but I don't like him.

Lemme reinstall Babelfish <.<

[Parama]

You're not restricted
stop posting in goddamn french

[Parama]

1. Jester
2. Scum trying to make people think you're jester
3. You deserve it
4. Stupidity
5. You don't have a reason

I'm going with a combination of 3 through 5, possibly with a dash of either 1 or 2.

[Parama]

0 bcrfhj vgnlhu,. aegri t.kj

Ani can you just not post all game? I think the town will do better if you don't post, ever. Thanks in advance.

[Parama]

I don't particularly care about his alignment. Regardless of alignment, he's what his title says he is.

[Parama]

But...if he's scum...

Then I'll worry about him once all his buddies are dead.

[Parama]

Twisted
You are dumb
THIS IS A SC GAME.
THERE HAVE BEEN POST RESTRICTIONS IN PAST SC GAMES.

[Parama]

No goddamn way either of those kills came from a vig.
I'mma look for the scum off the wagon first. I doubt more than 2 were bussing, could be as low as one.
Regardless of his stupidity, I think Empking's town.
Narrows the pool down to:
Ani
Amrun
BS
populartajo

...okay, if there's two scum in that group, this game's already won xD
please oh my lord strangercoug make it so

lemme look over these four really quick and figure out which of them are scum.

[Parama]

ani is likely scum; tragedy push is absolutely retarded and he doesn't say a thing about jindori. Wouldn't be surprised if the Tragedy kill came from mafia who knew they'd painted Tragedy as obvtown after D1.
AMRUN HASN'T POSTED YET IN THIS THREAD. WHAT.

What the?

Is Jindori at L-1 already?

Tell me you don't get an "oh crap we're screwed" vibe from this post. TELL ME DAMMIT.
TAJO HASN'T POSTED YET IN THIS THREAD. WHAT.

Uh... guys, can we have a bit longer of a day today? There's like no information here. Placeholder

vote: ani

but this is subject to change.

[Parama]

it's about aniscum making such an obvious counterpush against Tragedy because Ani is scum.

[Parama]

This line of conversation is stupid.
Stop wasting space.

[Parama]

Not really, but I don't want to make the other 10 people in this game read any more of this crap than they already have to.

[Parama]

bobsnox is Ani's buddy y/n?

[Parama]

I really want to say that Ani's scum.
So I will.
Ani's scum.

[Parama]

Oh man, this is like Bloodbath all over again. "BAW I DIDN'T KNOW GAME STARTED" WELL TAKE SOME INITIATIVE AND TRY TO FIND THE DAMN THREAD YOURSELF. THERE'S LITERALLY ONLY ONE PLACE WHERE IT COULD BE.

[Parama]

That's a stupid question to ask.
And a completely random accusation that just happens to contradict your earlier arguments against smargaret. Can't make up your mind on which mislynch to push, eh?

[Parama]

your argument against smarg implies that I'm town.

[Parama]

I wasn't calling you scum with that post.
I was calling you stupid.
Do you take offense to that? Probably.
Do I care? No.

[Parama]

There's a difference between reading the thread and skimming the thread. The latter is what I always do, for example, while nobody actually does the former.
I don't disagree with your arguments against smargaret, though I feel there are better lynches.
Disagree with the read on Ani - there's this thing called WIFOM that Ani probably knows about. "Why would a scumbuddy defend his buddy so hard if he knew he was going to be lynched anyways?" Well, because he figured it would make him look town. Didn't exactly work, but
And, like you just said yourself, "Not mafia with jindori" does not mean "not scum".

[Parama]

I'm not apologizing, so.

[Parama]

btw, you are butthurt town. You can stop tunneling on me whenever you want, and start scumhunting.

bobsnox (1): animorpherv1

[Parama]

fair enough.
and I checked, he did unvote.

[Parama]

I still think Ani is a better lynch than BS :/
Granted, BS is not a BAD lynch, but... what has Ani done that's caused people to stop voting him? I must've missed something. People on the BS wagon: show me why Ani is town.

[Parama]

the way you pushed it looked like you were trying to start a counterwagon, but nice try.
claims are irrelevant. the last time someone claimed firefighter, I lynched them. and they were scum. that has no bearing on this game of course but I don't really care too much for claims unless you can prove it.

[Parama]

What the hel do you want me to do? I've already quoted the role PM.

nothing since I want to lynch you. Thanks

I still think Ani is a better lynch than BS :/
Granted, BS is not a BAD lynch, but... what has Ani done that's caused people to stop voting him? I must've missed something. People on the BS wagon: show me why Ani is town.

He's not Mafia because that's not a safe claim.

I've seen mafia claim firefighter before.
That doesn't work.
@BS: The mafia goon in SWNII was NOT originally post restricted, which is why I didn't bring it up.

MafiaSSK, you are a Greek Mafia goon. You, along with your partners in crime wolframnhart (who is a voyeur) and Pomegranate (who is also a goon), have come to Dreamland from Athens to spread your reign of terror—if you can stand the heat, that is.

(MOD NOTE: Changed to the following after MafiaSSK replaced out:

FeFiFoFum, you replace MafiaSSK you are a post-restricted Greek Mafia goon. You, along with your partners in crime wolframnhart (who is a voyeur) and Pomegranate (who is also a goon), have come to Dreamland from Athens to spread your reign of terror—if you can stand the heat, that is.

Oh, and the nekomata isn't the only person to curse anybody—MafiaSSK has cursed anybody getting this role, too. He faked having a post restriction making him have to post in French; by so doing, his successors (therefore, you) really do have to post in French.

)

[Parama]

Do we know mafia were given fakeclaims? You sound like you have inside info.

[Parama]

It's not that you said you opposed it, it's that your actions say you opposed it.

[Parama]

frankly
no clue.
haven't been paying attention

also the game where mafia claimed firefighter is Mini 1079 which is a mini normal. too lazy to look for the link atm.

[Parama]

do you think its more likely scum bussed or they defended an inevitable lynch?

I'm sure that at least 1 scum bussed and it's likely that at least two did.
I am trying. Trying to lynch scum off the wagon. Like Ani.

Also, @Parama:
You can stop tunneling on me anytime now.

I could, but it'd make it less likely that I got Aniscum lynched.

[Parama]

What is your case against ani, Parama?

read the thread. I'm too damn lazy to find the arguments I've sprinkled throughout the day.

[Parama]

your case starts with a weak assumption since its more likely scum were ON the wagon that scum OFF the wagon.

Yes, it is more likely scum were on the wagon than off.
Rather, there's probably one off and two on.
And statistically speaking we have better odds by going for the one off the wagon.
who happens to be named animorpherv1.

I also doubt Surye is scum with this French thing going on.

That's a very interesting observation after I've mentioned that the only French post restricted role I can find associated with SC is a scum one.

you are the most thickheaded person ever. I can't tell if it's scum thickheadedness or town thickheadedness, though you seem content to push suspicion on Surye solely because of his restriction. FYI town and scum can both be post-restricted and something like that has no bearing on a player's alignment.

you seem rather opportunistic to me, Amrun

BZZZT. Calling out a player simply for hammering = scummy. Calling out a player because their hammer looked scummy = scumhunting.
I don't explicitly remember the hammer in question and I probably should look at it but

sure, I'd look scummy if it was a bus, but it wasn't and you can't prove it unless you say I'm scum which you say because I might have bussed because I might be scum because I might have bussed

can you prove it wasn't a bus?
now go away. this is not a game of logic, it is a game of psychology. there are no hard facts. there are only suspicions and theories.
I'm done with caring about Twisted vs. Amrun. Forever. The winner is obvious.

and all BS has done is defend herself, hardly enough for you to have such a strong town read on her

<____<

best post in the game.
I'll come back to the smarg case later. If I feel like it.

I was literally asking you what you meant by that face.

<___________<
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
Empking goes baaaah.

I might actually read over this game again real quick.

[Parama]

So your role is the same as rikki the mouse?????

hey guys
if you didn't know
tl is confirmed town

Anyways, wagon ahoy!
VOTE: jindori

xvart is not confirmed town but high on my townlist. 3rd jindori vote ftr.

Je veux juste voir combien d'écume notre sur mon chariot. Il a sûr aux tas d'appât.

Surye is conf. town. This is not scum talking to other scum.

Vote:Tragedy

This is NOT a random vote. She was on all the time, yet was one of the last two to confirm. This means she is scum.

HEY GUYS
THIS IS SCUM
PUSHING A COUNTERWAGON
IT IS
BLATANTLY
OBVIOUS
MY GOD

Just because you tell me to stop posting means I'll do it.
Care to explain?

And this is where I recall a quote from a wise old genderless player:

Had I known while I was alive that Parama was not a relative newbie but actually a highly competent scum player I would have placed him dead to rights right about when he posted I WILL NOT BE SILENCED (i.e. direct willingness to be anti-Town and wrong).

you can pretty much figure out what I'm implying here.

Parama, why are you so convinced that jindori is a jester, not scum? He looks pretty scummy to me.

Vote: Jindori

I wasn't convinced he was jester. I brought up the possibility and proceeded to scream "LYNCH HO!!!" because jindori was a policy lynch and nothing more.
Just so happened that he was also the first good policy lynch in the history of mafia d(''d)

catching up

"catching up" = quickhammer and literally nothing else. my god.

"Meh i'm not important anyway and a policy lynch on me might help find scum."
...
...
Hmm.

Oh hey I wonder why Tragedy died.

More to the point, TL, why claim already? It's not a town thing to do.

Vote TL

yeah, this is really the lamest vote.

woo sheeping for the scumlynch day one
prepared to do it day two as well

bobsnox = dumb
but he's town.

C'est la vie!

The little things that kill you make you glad to be aliiiive!

/offtopic

Yet when I asked for reasons why, not a person came up and explained.

I think like 5 other people said policy
and it was a pretty damn obvious one.

I've seen people reach 6 votes in less than a RL day before.
EBWOP:
6 votes in a Large Theme

Yes, that's called EVERY LARGE THEME D1 EVER
I still fail to see the relevance.

vote:bobsnox

until he starts contributing.

*snicker*

It's showing that he's scum who's not going to hold in a conversation when things don't go his way to where he has to resort to personal attacks.

yet still a waste of space.
you two are both little kids anyways so

That did look like a strange redirection attempt... It could be a bus.

nice stance.
oh wait.

Essentially. However,

I has my doubts about a SK in this setup.

Isn't this like saying "My claim is a fakeclaim!"?

Did you breadcrumb at all, ani?

No.

Why not?

Wow, talk about a ridiculous argument.

I doubt you're town. I'm not going for town points, regardless. I'm going for scum lynches. You should be too, but clearly you're not. Because you're scum.

yeah, bobsnox is town. moving on.

Why?

I don't think it'd be given to mafia as a fakeclaim.

Agree. It'd tell them there's a SK.
Of course, that assumes scum were given fakeclaims, which until I see evidence of it being true is something I'm going to assume is false.

I really want to say that Ani's scum.
So I will.
Ani's scum.

Past-me is a genius.

I really want to say that Ani's scum.
So I will.
Ani's scum.

This really does make people want to join your case.

He has a case? <_<

TL is confirmed town btw.

Add to that the fact that Amrun was absent for all of day 1 - forgetting a game can happen, but when you're gone for a whole day it's suspicious, especially given the speed of the scum wagon.

DAY 1 WAS LIKE 1 RL DAY LONG
WHAT IS THIS OFFENSE TO THE EYES

1. Sheeping in itself is anti-town, but does not make you look like scum by itself
2. When you sheep, people tend to ISO you
3. What I'm doing is teaching you to stop sheeping. And it's working.

1. Wrong. Is sheeping the confirmed town cop's guilty anti-town? Never. EVER. Sheeping constantly and refusing to think for yourself is anti-town and scummy, yes, but sheeping itself is not.
2. uh... where'd this come from. evidence to back this up?
3. So you know bobsnox is town. great.

ani is likely scum; tragedy push is absolutely retarded

VOTE: animorpherv
He was trying to redirect the lynch to Tragedy yesterday and it was awful.

That looks a lot like sheeping to me, Amrun.

worthlesssssss
soooooo woooooorthleeeeeeeesssssssssss

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTHLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

make worse arguments please.

I'll call Empking out as mafia. I will say that because even though I have proved myself as a VI player before, I would not claim the exact opposite of my role. Ever. I consider that practically suicide. I am not voting him yet because I would like to see some more posts by him before I vote him.

you're not applying pressure. good job doing nothing. if you think he's scummy, you vote him, especially when you're not actually voting someone else.

Scummy push by Empking.

FOS: Amrun

- The ort of frantic thing I'd expect from scum.

/agree

but if I ever play with animorpherv1 again I will be policy voting him day one

*giggle*

I really don't feel like reading the rest, partly since it's recent and I think I commented on it all ready.
I'm also too lazy to tl;dr my post so

[Parama]

hiraki's
sig

that is all

[Parama]

Also, if Parama is scum (which,despite him voting for me, I think he is town)

Also, @Parama:
You can stop tunneling on me anytime now.

Oh btw, lynch Parama tomorrow.

Ani that was the worst distance ever, now they'll totally lynch me on your scumflip! I knew I shouldn't have bussed incompetent buddies two days in a row <_<

I love how the second I point out your scumslip is the second I get on your scumlist. Man that is really a lame distance Ani.

[Parama]

^this is not in violation of rule 11 btw because the comments have invisible sarcasm tags around them

[Parama]

It's gone on too long?
We've stalled on a scum lynch?
Moonbeams?

[Parama]

Okay. Here's the deal.
People on the smargaret wagon. You help me lynch ani-scum today and I'll sheep your wagon tomorrow. Deal?

[Parama]

the people voting ani are voting good
the people voting smarg are voting less good but not voting bad

ani is more likely to flip scum than smarg imo. I refuse to lynch the other way around.

twisted: I don't care that you want to push a mislynch, and I'll get back to you whenever I feel like it.

[Parama]

I don't follow others' plans. I follow my own plan. I don't see why the order matters; both are gonna die either way, and I'm fine with that, but I want my stronger scumread dead first. I am not voting smarg today.

[Parama]

scum. they're all the same to me.

[Parama]

nope.

[Parama]

...
if smarg gets to L-1, she should claim, because I'm willing to hammer.
Still think Ani is the best lynch though.

[Parama]

Surye.
I don't believe Ani's claim because I think he's scum. It's not that I think he's scum BECAUSE of his claim. He could be Sk, he could be mafia, I don't really care, he's scum and needs to die.

[Parama]

You're kinda incredibly dumb. If I was the SK, I'd have no motive for wanting to lynch Ani; because I'd be able to kill him overnight. I don't have the ability to kill anyone, so I have to get the scumz during the day.

[Parama]

they have to be connected?

[Parama]

wait, you're too dumb to get the point of that last posts, so:

I don't think they're connected. At least, not in any way I care about. They don't need to be connected for them to both be scum, though.

[Parama]

oh look. lurkerscum.

[Parama]

I changed my mind, because Ani became obvious scum after jindori's flip and brief D1 analysis.
Is it illegal to change one's opinion? If so, I guess I've been scum in every single game ever and I just didn't know it, because my opinions change all the time.

[Parama]

I stopped reading after the first line.
It's not contradicting. IT'S CALLED THINKING, YOU IDIOT.

[Parama]

I didn't read his post, like I said. Should I? Hmm.

That still doesn't answer why ani has to die today over anyone else when you specifically said

you would rather get ani's buddies first and worry about him later

. Believe me, I can understand changing your mind over scumreads but you were openly

disinterested in ani's alignment

to point where

even if you thought ani was scum you would have had to scumhunt elsewhere

to be consistent with your statements. Inconsistency I can live with (no one is perfect), but acting like it's not something worth pointing out in a game where we probably have a SK is shortsighted.

I specifically said that then. That doesn't mean I agree with what I said earlier. Guess what, wise guy, this isn't D1 anymore, and we have 3 more flips to chew on. Combine those flips with Ani's posts and we've caught a live one.

That kind of behavior is what I would expect from a SK (lack of concern with alignment, tunneling ani's particular claim, not caring about possible connections between scumbuddies, etc.). I guess we can lynch ani today and see what he flips. If he's town then I'll bring this back up again tomorrow (if I'm alive <_<).

I didn't care about his alignment D1. I did care D2. Not D1. Man, you're thick.

Anyway, what do you think about smargaret? What is scummy about her? Do you agree with my ISO of her?

Add to that the fact that Amrun was absent for all of day 1 - forgetting a game can happen, but when you're gone for a whole day it's suspicious, especially given the speed of the scum wagon.

DAY 1 WAS LIKE 1 RL DAY LONG
WHAT IS THIS OFFENSE TO THE EYES

ani is likely scum; tragedy push is absolutely retarded

VOTE: animorpherv
He was trying to redirect the lynch to Tragedy yesterday and it was awful.

That looks a lot like sheeping to me, Amrun.

worthlesssssss
soooooo woooooorthleeeeeeeesssssssssss
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTHLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
make worse arguments please.

Okay. Here's the deal.
People on the smargaret wagon. You help me lynch ani-scum today and I'll sheep your wagon tomorrow. Deal?

short version: not a bad lynch, not the best lynch.

I stopped reading after the first line.
It's not contradicting. IT'S CALLED THINKING, YOU IDIOT.

Interesting how you ignored the important part of his post to quibble over words. He's actually right. You never changed your mind about alignments, you said that ani is scum, lets lynch his buddies first. Then you say lets lynch ani because he is scum, after we were discussing why even if he is scum or SK, Ani was a bad lynch for D1.

Yes, he was a bad lynch for D1. That hasn't changed. It's D2 now. Not D1. My god you people are dumb.

And when called out on it, you just rage post back to back, and start ignoring posts. Your agressive atitude in this context looks very bad. The funny thing is, your "mind change" happened contrary to town's best interest.

I ignore idiots. Deal with it.
Why is me changing my opinion on Ani contrary to town's best interests? Does that mean you know he's town? Because it sure as hell sounds like it.

And of course, you end it with calling someone an idiot.

yep. and?

[Parama]

^has no response to my arguments

[Parama]

@xvart: already answered it, and I'm sure I did, but here it is again:
Ani's push on Tragedy as a counterwagon to jindori made it more likely that Tragedy was town, and it made Ani obvious scum for pushing the wagon. so they killed her.
except that was more likely the SK kill in light of recent events, which does make it quite likely Ani is SK now that I think about it. Still want him dead ofc ^.^

[Parama]

Oh great, a mislynch.

[Parama]

So now you're accusing me of being mafia, too?

[Parama]

tajo: her post-lynch post seems town. not the type of WIFOM scum would post after a hammer.

[Parama]

Town:
Parama
TheLonging
populartajo
Surye

Scum:
Zinger
Twisted

Serial Killer:
bobsnox

The rest:
Unimportant

we got this.

vote: bobsnox

get the SK to reduce the number of kills

also I figured out why bobsnox was trying to pin me as SK.
it's because he's SK. that's why he wants to try to make others look like the serial killer.
amrun is a weird kill for the mafia to make though .-. ah well.

[Parama]

also I apologize for being wrong yesterday.
I've been sucking a lot lately forever it seems. ah well. at least we can still go for a perfect lynching record

[Parama]

yeah, bobsnox just claim scum. moving on...

[Parama]

Your attack on me is because I CHANGED MY OPINION OLOLZ.
You're either stupid or scum, probably both, and I don't think you're mafia, so that makes you SK. Plus the fact that your entire push on me is on the basis that I'm SK, which is even less likely than me being mafia (hint: me being mafia is a 0% chance).

[Parama]

I'm sold

UNVOTE: C-Worl

VOTE: jindori

(not really but I have no better options ATM)

woo sheeping for the scumlynch day one

prepared to do it day two as well

this is why bobsnox is not mafia and why I had a town read on him for a while

claim is a piss-easy scumclaim to make. no actions to claim and it's not provable. I still think bobsnox is scum.

[Parama]

Zinger - Getting rid of the SK gets rid of one nightkill. Considering that neither mafia nor SK seem inclined to shoot each other, I'd REALLY like to cut down the speed of deaths. At the rate we're going, assuming 2 mafia and 1 sk (most likely IMO), 2 kills per night and no mislynches will still take us to 4p MyLo in the best case scenario assuming no crosskills. Not good.

Why are people pushing a 1-mafia 1-sk theory? That reeks. 12-3-1 isn't happening because 9-3-1's have already been balanced. I'm not saying it isn't possible, I'm saying it's unlikely, and we should assume there are 2 maf and 1 sk left. That way, if there isn't, then we'll just win sooner than expected. If we assume the other is true and it isn't, people are gonna get reckless at any potential LyLo situation.

[Parama]

Scum:
Zinger
Twisted

Serial Killer:
bobsnox

tajo please read my posts

[Parama]

But bobsnox's death will basically tell you the gist of what I was going to say: that he did not kill animorpherv1.

So you think he's not SK.
And I've given plenty of reasoning why he's not mafia; did you miss that?

...guys, Zinger is scum. C'mon now. He had reason not to vote bobsnox and still did.

bobsnox is still gonna flip SK though.

[Parama]

[Parama]

Cop + Vig in same setup = what.

[Parama]

We were already down two members by the time we had a chance to kill the cop, so it seemed like a good idea to just leave BS alive.
Which was good for night 2 but not for night 3. Meh.

[Parama]

mafia killed C-Worl, some guy, tajo, then BS

I don't even remember who the N2 kill was