Speed Mafia (Game Over, who won?)

[CrimpingNoofball]

TOWN

CrimpingNoofball
Juls
SpyreX

UNDER SURVEILLANCE

AGM
xRECKx
kaneyeKB

SCUM

Kats
evilpacman
WingDamage

[CrimpingNoofball]

LURKER HUNT

The Mask
populartajo
Amrun
Benmage
Lowell
Sathoris
Haylen
Magister Ludi
Cobblerfone

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

AGM stock going up!

Kats is probably, IN FACT, already bus'ing. Kats, please give us a list of who you are bus'ing for future reference.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

I like how you're joking about being scum when we're all 100% serious.

I sense a "being caught for wrong reasons" outrage coming from Kats.

@BenMage
Explain how WD is town in the next 5 minutes or accept to be dayvig'ed.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

WD is already lurking in plain sight. I say scum.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

@DGB: You always have me on your scumlist every game though.

NOT TRUE, your statement is disingenuous.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Ben.

I can smell the town on you.

Yep. He's just being contrarian for contrary's sake, he'd be too chicken to do that as scum.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

We'll what happens with juls

Nothing, Juls is town.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

You watching me play like this does not make me scum.

Try again.

TADA! The "

caught for the wrong reason

" complaint that I predicted has already materialized.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

I already have evilpacman in my scum list.

@ Kats - if I were to sheep SpyreX as you recommend, I would be voting you. Is this your intent?

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

But you have the horde going in the wrong direction.

Ah! OK.

VOTE: Evilpacman

[CrimpingNoofball]

1) for clarity: DGB and I can be treated as one organism. We are only signing posts at Patrick's request.

2) Spyrex: thank god you are town. This is going to be an easy win.

3) Just because this is a speed game, doesn't mean all of you have to post like middle school girls with their first cell phone.

4) Katsuki: can you give me one reason not to lynch you?

5) pacman: Explain post #140. I cant tell if you are buddying Us, or trying to case the seeds of doubt on Jules and Our obv-townieness. Which is it?

~c

[CrimpingNoofball]

evilpacman is still alive???

Slackers.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

TOWN

CrimpingNoofball
Juls
SpyreX
Amrun
AGM

UNDER SURVEILLANCE

xRECKx
kaneyeKB
Benmage
Kats

SCUM

evilpacman
WingDamage
Haylen

GUILLOTINE LINE UP

The Mask
populartajo
Lowell
Sathoris
Magister Ludi
Cobblerfone

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Actually Sathoris should move to "under surveillance."

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

I've played with a hydra before and they were a fun rival so it might just be personal bias, but they're acting like the other hydra, so I'm trusting em for now.

Worst reasoning ever.
Are you bussing Katsuki? Already?

@Haylen: WE cross countries and time zones.

~c

ps: pacman: you may call us CGB, NoofBall, or Crimp, if you like.. But utilizing our slave-names impinges on out transcendence, and hurts my feng-shui.

[CrimpingNoofball]

I just realized that Haylen is scum.

She has the fear. The fear of getting caught.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Re-post

@CGB:

Amun explanation. I'm gonna need that one.

I could have sworn I saw something, and I just iso'd him to look it up, I can't find it, and I'm ready to toss him back into the scum column.

He seems meek and tentative.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

We also would like Katsu to get a chance to post before the hammer drops. Or before We hammer, as the case may be.
Thus, We would be inclined to deeply suspect anyone getting to twitchy right now.
In fact... We are slightly inclined to call off a Katsu Lynch. Convince Us, wagoners.

Katsu? Do you have words?

For additional thought:

As I said, I'm not going to apologize for not knowing the thread was open when I never received a link or notification that the game had started. If I'm lynched for such a stupid reason, I'll simply chalk it up to a mod mistake I failed to dig myself out of and slink away with my tail in between my legs.

Last time I saw amrun-scum (the only time) she caught some heat early-on.. and was really bothered by it. By HOW she caught suspicion. She flipped scum.
Here, it seems like, between the lines, she is saying that there are BETTER reasons for her lynch.. and she would be dissapointed that she got lynched for THAT reason.

Then there are these:

I also knew having my top suspect as Katsuki wouldn't look great, but she IS my top suspect and that's that.

unvote; vote katsuki

Screw it. Bank, deadline, bank.

Dont like that reasoning. Dont like it at all.

in fact:

UNVOTE
VOTE: AMRUN

-c

[CrimpingNoofball]

Good catch ML. Love it.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

AGM: think again.
I would like to derail the Katsu lynch.
I am not ready for a quicklynch on a claimed PR.

If he is telling the truth... Katsu has a nice chance of dying tonight (>5/17), and if he DOESNT, then he soft-confirms a townie.
PLUS.... the scum cant hit him.
PLUS.. when he eventually dies.. he hard-confirms all his targets retroactivly.

Katsu: do you have a nighttime plan?

-c

[CrimpingNoofball]

And sorry for the triple post, but HEADS UP: Every single scum in this game is going to fakeclaim PR. The days are too fast for us to reverse wagons on vanilla claims. So if you expect to derail every wagon that runs into a PR claim, this game is going to be a trainwreck. We just need to trust ourselves to PR hunt properly.

I agree, but scum wouldnt have faked THAT power role Day 1, I dont think.
THink about it harder.. we can come back to this topic Day 2 or 3.

For now, Katsuki is not a good lynch. Hider is one of the few PRs that can't really be hobbled. They hide from kills. Do they hide from Blocks? If this game has Natural Resolution, they do. Which is another reason Amrun is full of fail.

Kastu: here is the plan:
1. do not share your intended targets beforehand.
2. Dont get killed.
3. Live, and tell us where you went afterwards.
4. profit.

Now, shal we wagon cobblestine? or is anyone feeling an Amrun lynch?

-c

[CrimpingNoofball]

@Camn: So it is a repeat of hide n' seek.

Except in THIS game.. if you hide behind scum, you die. If behind town, you live, and hard-confirm a townie.
Dont hide behind OBV-town, though.. because you are going to be painting a target on thier head by confirming them. Hide behind people that the scum will be sad to kill. Lurkers. VIs. those type players, k?

FUCKING HELL GET YOUR VOTES BACK ON KATSUKI
SHE IS AS SCUMMY AS SCUM GETS

Not today, Reck.

[CrimpingNoofball]

Oh, btw:

UNVOTE
VOTE : COBBLEFONE

Not that I dont want Amrun dead. I do. My heart seethes, and I crave the scent of her blood in my mouth.
But lets see what is going on with her scumbuddy.

-c

[CrimpingNoofball]

requesting to be replaced. sorry everyone.

You're replacing as you are confirming in another game? Wow, that's not scummy at all.

FOS: the wing replacement

THIS POST IS GOLD but the WD player slot should be

lynched

, not merely FOS'd.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Cobberfone is scared scum.

Now, about Katsuki's choices. If Kats hides behind scum and dies, we'll never know who the scum it. What if Kats posts a list of 3 possible night choices? Then we'd have a clue.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

I will be iso-ing everyone and posting stuff later.

Iso yourself first, lurkerSCUM.

You're pretty much going to have to self-vote.

[CrimpingNoofball]

UNVOTE
Vote: Amrun

That sorry-I'm-such-a-newb Shiz is not going to fly this time around.
She pulled this same nonsense as scum last game... Rode the newb-forgiveness all the way to victory.
Never again.

And Reck: relax with the yelling. You can't pull an ego-forcelynch with this playerlist.


-c

[CrimpingNoofball]

Let's just wait and see what she says, but I could see myself voting Haylen, too

I'd love to see Haylen votes for sports.

She's waiting for night to kill me, I know.

In the meantime, she's going to lurk hard.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Actually, I don't dislike Haylen's more recent post - but it's borderline too little too late.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Katsuki may still be scum, but the inconsistency is actually a TOWN tell, not a scum tell. I've been scum often enough to see how bloody often they refuse to do something useful for the team for fear of appearing INCONSISTENT. Townies aren't worried about consistency - they find scum wherever the wind blows. Not scum. Scum will dig their heels to appear consistent.

I bet a lot of the players refusing to change their mind about Katsuki are scum.

VERY IMPORTANT: This is a speed game. Speed is an advantage for scum. Beware that the players that are killed first are (1) widely seen as town and (2) may have accurate scum reads.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

What is your motivations for those 3? Should we not try to make the list the most scummy? So you either confirm scum or drive scum away from the towniest players as their night choice?

Hiding behind one's scumreads vs. whoever else is kind of immaterial, just as long as we have an idea of who they are.

The choices should be moderately scummy, yes... but

useless

is better, I think.
Hider dying doesn't CONFIRM scum.. but it does give us a clue, which is good.
Hider living DOES confirm town, which is even better IMO!


THAT SAID: I don't think anyone >I< actually think is TOWN should be on Kats's list. It should all be people that scum would be

peeved

if they had to kill. I think the scum would enjoy killing a hypotown-Juls... as well as a hypotown-AGM.
Put more lurkers on that list, Kats. If you live, you force the scum to kill them, which is good for the town in endgame. If you die, we lynch freely, with no qualms.. I would feel fine with:
Lowell
Sathoris
Haylen

See how that plays, ideally?
If Kats is town, and suddenly we are in NIGHT BEFORE ENDGAME with, say, CNB, a scum, confirmed-town-Lurker and Spyrex..... I don't get killed. Spy and I find scum... profit.
Or, Scum are forced to off a Lurker one night, so as to clean out the confirmed. Profit.
Hell.. maybe TONIGHT the scum shoot a lurker, trying to double-hit... thus killing a lurker. Profit

-c

[CrimpingNoofball]

Not the most productive question ever.
Plus phrased in a disingenous fashion.

Try harder. If you want us to consider sparing your life for today... tell us your thoughts on Cobblestone or Start a lurkerhunt or get to that 'analysis'... dont just stir mud.
Stirring mud is scummerific.

[CrimpingNoofball]

Yeah yeah kanye is scum.

BUT SO IS HAYLEN DAMMIT

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Hmm.
OK, Juls. Lets do it.

UNVOTE
VOTE: COBBLEFONE

Get back in here and answer for your terrible play.

scummylurker>scummynonlurker on day1... but trust me, put Amrun at L-1 and We will hammer.

-c

[CrimpingNoofball]

Halyen is absolutely positively coasting scum right now. I can smell it. Her posts are not substantive and not related to the topics at hand

You'll get a kick out of this post-game, but in the CrimppingNoofball QT, I pretty much said exactly that she's not reacting to game events, and that's she's scum giving up.

In other news, it is possible for something to unrot. Cobblertelephone has the fresh scent of town.

Enough pussyfooting around, time to lynch scum.

~DGB

VOTE: HAYLEN

[CrimpingNoofball]

@Cobbler See my iso:
26,
27, and
32

The only accusations I see you respond to is tajo and his points are not the same as mine except maybe trying to be "too townie" and not even referencing the same evidence.

Dunno about you, but recently, I've started to believe people who only answer the questions of one or two players in the game are actually scumbuddies with them.

IIoA

So she's either stupid

Ad hom.

Point? None made.

Noofball saying that Katsuki is town for being inconsistent is WIFOM. Inconsistency isn't pro-town.

It's called meta and is something that I will be looking at.

Scum:

"I will do something later. NOT!"

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

ESWOP for quote tags

Noofball saying that Katsuki is town for being inconsistent is WIFOM. Inconsistency isn't pro-town.

It's called meta and is something that I will be looking at.

Scum:

"I will do something later. NOT!"

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Add another scum to the Amrun lynch.

Can you help make that Haylen lynch happen?

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Haylen lynch isn't bad.

Are you afraid to show enthusiasm for a lynch? That was a wimpy, scaredy-cat way of saying it. Are you subtly trying to get others to vote, without committing yourself? Why aren't you voting Haylen, seeing that you're the alternative lynch?

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

But that doesn't make sense DGB, because I've never given up as scum. I've fought through it and ended up victorious, wouldn't it make more sense that I'd give up as town? You make no sense. It would be too risky for Haylscum to give up considering she could probably throw the lot of you off her back if she wanted to..

Are you admitting that you HAVE given up here?
yes/no


-c

[CrimpingNoofball]

Unvote. Vote Cobblerone.

Swiss chocoloate? You're voting Swiss chocolate? Die, scum.

~D "don't touch my chocolate" GB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Need to post more:

Lowell
WingDamage9001
Haylen

Now that she has posted more, please re-evaluate Haylen.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

OH WAIT

You did re-evaluate Haylen.

Hey guys.

iso Haylen really quick

. Tell me what you see.

Actually nvm I'll just tell you:

A complaint about the thread moving so fast, a reasonless vote on SpyreX, irrelevant time zone information, says she voted SpyreX for "gut and pressure" (which is bullshit this late in the day), asks me if I called for an alliance (which is obviously fluff questioning), promises an iso on every player

Let's just wait and see what she says, but

I could see myself voting Haylen

, too

Which begs the question, what makes you Haylen vote-shy

now

???

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Ludi is town though so it's okay.
Haylen isn't. Yet. Or ever. I'm not sure.

Interesting.

Then you have THIS:

Nope, I'm voting for the person I think is most likely to be scum. I'm not lynching someone who I'm less sure about.

And still no Haylen vote.

If the CNB hydra doesn't survive the night... xRECK is SCUM, no matter what Haylen flips.

He's either too constipated to vote a townie, or he's boldly not voting his buddy hoping the other wagons may take over. He's scum.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Not liking the votes on Cobbler. I think he's been acting pro-town and the people that started voting for him are on my scumlist. Which as follows is like this.

Town

˅
CrimpingNoofball
Benmage
Ludi
Cobblefone
The Mask
Spyrex
Popular
evilpacman

Haylen

WHY in the safe middle

???
WingDamage9001
Reck

Kanye

Juls

WUT

???

Amrun
AGM
Kats

˄

Scum

EMPHASES & COLORS MINE

Sathoris is xRECK's buddy.

Sathoris'

first post

contained an xRECK vote that hasn't moved since, and was accompanied by a bullish attack. Yet he rates 4 easy (mis)lynches as scummier than xRECK!!!!

Why isn't that special.

And Haylen is stuck at neutral. Something that xRECK is desperately trying to do, too, while condemning Haylen, refusing to contribute money to the lynching pool.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

...because there's

way more information

to be gleaned from Kats or Amrun flipping.

Again, you speak like scum.

Nope. Once you have a full wagon on Haylen, it's just as informative as a Kats or Amrun flipping. And the more wagons to stuff into the SCUMPUTER, the better.

Not buying it.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

I never said I wouldn't vote Haylen
What I said is that all these wagons shifting so rapidly are making me nervous and I'm not going to participate in this one today

What's the diff?

You said you think she's scum. You don't want to lynch scum? Not today? Tomorrow? Or you want to hammer Haylen, when there is no more hope for another wagon to appear on your buddy?

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

TOWN

CrimpingNoofball
Juls
SpyreX
AGM

PROB TOWN

Amrun
The Mask
populartajo
Cobblerfone
Benmage
Kats

POSSIBLY SCUM

kaneyeKB
evilpacman
Lowell
Magister Ludi

SCUM

Sathoris
WingDamage/C-Worl
Haylen
xRECKx

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

And now you're calling me out for being inconsistent?

Inconsistent is one thing, talking from both sides of one's mouth is another.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Yeah DGB, Katsuki and Amrun aren't town.

Well we don't know that.

And I bristle at the "moar information" voters. It suggest that they favor a suboptimal vote for dubious benefits.

All wagons are equal in terms of information. "Getting more information" should never be a motive for one's vote, as there is an inevitable fallacy within.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

How do you know they will be lower if you haven't finished reading and making the list yet?

GOOD CATCH my friend, good catch.

Is there even a possibility that Sathoris is town, after this?

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

I still wanna know how they both came to opposite conclusions about me for presumably meta-reasons.

Thing is, it's not about you. I understand you're curious, but you'll be satisfied in end game. Don't let idle personal curiosity color your votes. The town is a team.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

I'm gonna go with no.

I'd be up for a Sathoris speedlynch, but Haylen is still "giving up" scum.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Also

DGB BACK THE FUCK DOWN

Has this ever, in the history of ever, ever worked?
I told you to check your caps-lock already.
We will be watching you. We will not forget this lack of respect.

-c

[CrimpingNoofball]

You know I have danced on the graves of many, many clowns for much less, my friend.

[CrimpingNoofball]

GIven the best case sscenario... killing Haylenscum > killing Katsuscum right now. Haylen can apathy her way all the way to endgame.. whereas Katsu will always be obv obv obv.
Likewise, mislynching Haylentown when she has admittedly given up on this game > mislynching Katsu-town-Power who has already agreed to direction.

And pacman: you can take your snide insults and store them where the sun don't shine. Someday, when you actually understand the connection between 614 and 641, you might be welcome to comment on my

personality

. Until then, shove it.

Your taste in music sucks, too.


-c

[CrimpingNoofball]

FYI it is, like, 3 in the morning in England.
Hammer her, or wait for her response. No deadlines.

Frankly, I dont see how her claim changes anything.

[CrimpingNoofball]

She claims cop or doctor with 4 hours till deadline.

What do?

Easy. Sathoris is speedlynched.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

We are fine with either.
But if she is anything like We were at her age... at 11am on a Sunday she is barely waking up, crawling out from between the blonde on her swim team and the blonde's boyfriend, searching for her glasses and pants.. wondering if she should sneak out for coffee or make them make her breakfast.

Hey Pacman! Any comment on Tajo's 'ego'?
Or is just mouthy

broads

that bother you?

=c

[CrimpingNoofball]

Vanilla.

I'm actually up at 5am on Saturdays and Sundays for work, and during the rest of the week for uni. I'm fucking tired.

Scum giving up completely again.

HAMMER PLZ

[CrimpingNoofball]

Actually a good one would to look at who WASNT on that Amrun wagon and powerswung to this one. I've got a feeling there.

You're sounding like an informed minority. My town read on you has taken a hit. It's still alive, but it's injured.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Why would you say that NOW versus after I did a quick analysis of the wagon?

Your "analysis" is delusional shoot-from-the-hip. Hold on. I'm going to make a real analysis just now.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Katsuki (8) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, AlmasterGM, The Mask, populartajo, evilpacman18, Benmage, Lowell
Juls (1) -- WingDamage9001
AlmasterGM (1) -- Katsuki
SpyreX (1) -- Haylen
kanyeknowsbest (2) -- Magister Ludi, Amrun
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (3) -- Juls, kanyeknowsbest, CrimpingNoofball

I'm taking the last (8) votecount here. ^^^

Katsuki (5) -- AlmasterGM, populartajo, evilpacman18, Benmage, Lowell
Juls (1) -- C-Worl
SpyreX (1) -- Haylen
kanyeknowsbest (1) -- Magister Ludi
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (4) -- Juls, kanyeknowsbest, Katsuki, The Mask
C-Worl (1) -- Amrun
Amrun (3) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, CrimpingNoofball

Katsuki (1) -- Benmage
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (3) -- Katsuki, The Mask, Haylen
Amrun (6) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, kanyeknowsbest, evilpacman18, populartajo, C-Worl
Haylen (7) -- CrimpingNoofball, Cobblerfone, AlmasterGM, Magister Ludi, Juls, Amrun, Lowell

TWO SCUMZors here:

xRECKONERx
SpyreX
AlmasterGM
The Mask
populartajo
evilpacman18
Benmage
Lowell

ONE SCUM here:

AlmasterGM
populartajo
evilpacman18
Benmage
Lowell

1.5 scum here:

xRECKONERx
SpyreX
kanyeknowsbest
evilpacman18
populartajo
C-Worl

1.5 scum here:

Cobblerfone
AlmasterGM
Magister Ludi
Juls
Amrun
Lowell

Look who likes to hop on LATE WAGONS:

evilpacman18, Benmage, Lowell

The scumputer will continue after we have some reveals tomorrow morning.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

TOWN

CrimpingNoofball
Juls
SpyreX
AGM
The Mask

PROB TOWN

Amrun
populartajo
Cobblerfone
Kats

POSSIBLY SCUM

Benmage
kaneyeKB
evilpacman
Lowell
Magister Ludi

SCUM

Sathoris
WingDamage/C-Worl
Haylen

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

WE CHANGED OUR MINDS

Kats needs death

We thirst for Kats' blood

Don't make us go thirsty.

~DGB

VOTE:

KATSUKI

THERE SHALL BE NO OTHER LYNCH TODAY

[CrimpingNoofball]

Unvote, Vote: Pacman

Forget that lame pacman vote. It's sheep CNB time.

Vote Katsuki

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Vote: Cobbler

We are violently opposed to this vote because it's not a Katsuki vote.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

first things firts, katsuki should claim her target.

second thing,

vote: cobblerfone.

No.

We just lynch Katsuki. There is no target.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Kat will unequivocally work itself out.

It has worked itself out

and Katsuki is on death row NOW. Stop it with the appeals, we're going to think you're on her team.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

People I would lynch on general principle right now:

kanyeknowsbest
Amrun
Cobblerphone
AlamasterGM

Katsuki

I knew you can be counted on.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

No Sir. No mistakes. We can already scan the game for Katsuki's buddies, and take it to the bank.

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

POSSIBILITIES:
Roleblocker blocked the mafia.
Jailkeeper blocked the mafia.
Weak Doc protected the target.
Doctor protected the target.
Jailkeeper protected the target.

Hider was the target and hid correctly.

We may even know the identity of another scum. WOW

[CrimpingNoofball]

SpyreX, might I assume that you have no knowledge of how your NK missed?

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Katsuki

(8) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, AlmasterGM, The Mask, populartajo, evilpacman18, Benmage, Lowell
Juls (1) -- WingDamage9001
AlmasterGM (1) --

Katsuki

SpyreX (1) --

Haylen

kanyeknowsbest (2) -- Magister Ludi, Amrun
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (3) -- Juls, kanyeknowsbest,

CrimpingNoofball

I'm taking the last (8) votecount here. ^^^

Katsuki

(5) -- AlmasterGM, populartajo, evilpacman18, Benmage, Lowell
Juls (1) -- C-Worl
SpyreX (1) --

Haylen

kanyeknowsbest (1) -- Magister Ludi
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (4) -- Juls, kanyeknowsbest,

Katsuki

, The Mask
C-Worl (1) -- Amrun
Amrun (3) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX,

CrimpingNoofball

Katsuki

(1) -- Benmage
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (3) --

Katsuki

, The Mask,

Haylen

Amrun (6) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, kanyeknowsbest, evilpacman18, populartajo, C-Worl

Haylen

(7) --

CrimpingNoofball

, Cobblerfone, AlmasterGM, Magister Ludi, Juls, Amrun, Lowell

TWO SCUMZors here:

xRECKONERx
SpyreX
AlmasterGM
The Mask
populartajo
evilpacman18
Benmage
Lowell

ONE SCUM here:

AlmasterGM
populartajo
evilpacman18
Benmage
Lowell

1.5 scum here:

xRECKONERx
SpyreX
kanyeknowsbest
evilpacman18
populartajo
C-Worl

1.5 scum here:

Cobblerfone
AlmasterGM
Magister Ludi
Juls
Amrun
Lowell

Look who likes to hop on LATE WAGONS:

evilpacman18, Benmage, Lowell

[CrimpingNoofball]

TWO SCUMZors here (25):
xRECKONERx
SpyreX
AlmasterGM
The Mask
populartajo
evilpacman18
Benmage
Lowell

ONE SCUM here (20):
AlmasterGM
populartajo
evilpacman18
Benmage
Lowell

1.5 scum here (25):
xRECKONERx
SpyreX
kanyeknowsbest
evilpacman18
populartajo
C-Worl

1.5 scum here (20):
Cobblerfone
AlmasterGM
Magister Ludi
Juls
Amrun
Lowell

70 = 25 + 20 + 25 populartajo
70 = 25 + 20 + 25 evilpacman18
65 = 25 + 20 + 20 Lowell
65 = 25 + 20 + 20 AlmasterGM
50 = 25 + 25 xRECKONERx
50 = 25 + 25 SpyreX
45 = 25 + 20 Benmage
25 = 25 kanyeknowsbest
25 = 25 C-Worl
25 = 25 The Mask
20 = 20 Cobllerfone
20 = 20 Magister Ludi
20 = 20 Juls
20 = 20 Amrun

~DGB

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We still need to know how the NK missed.

~DGB

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@ SpyreX

Do you mean "NOT to NK?"

Tell us who Katsuki's partners are. Re-read the game. I await your analysis.

~DGB

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@Spyspy: <3

Sucking up to SpyreX.

OK SpyreX. I'll give you some breathing room.

~DGB

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What? The cross out was because the hider had nothing to do with that NK. It was one of the other roles, period. Which side we'll see.

I'm not sure what this point is about, I don't get it. Can you explain it longhand?

~DGB

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That, I guarantee, is not the explanation for the NK because that would mean either scum chose to NK (which the only reason would be to set up this response) OR went balls out pants on head and tried to kill Kat-town directly.

The latter makes the former make no sense.

I still have no idea what you're trying to say. Let's see if I can decode.

(1) The scum didn't target Kats, this is a fact - regardless of whether Kats is fakeclaiming scum, or town, which she isn't.
(2) So the scum didn't kill so that Kats could pretend to have had a successful action.

Is that what you're saying?

========================

Re-reading to dind Kats' buddies:

Well Juls can't possibly me a Kats buddy.

For reference:

Kats is probably, IN FACT, already bus'ing. Kats, please give us a list of who you are bus'ing for future reference.

AGM
Juls
*insert lurker here*
*insert second lurker here*

~DGB

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Thus: The absence of a kill is due to, 100%, something NOT involving Kats. JK / RB / Doc what have you.

OK, so we agree.

Next order or bizniss, and it's URGENT.

WHO ARE KATS' BUDDIES?

~DGB

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Going to class now, I'll be back in 2-3 hrs.

I'M STILL ALIVE THOUGH, MEANING THAT LOWELL ISN'T SCUM.

NOT FOR LONG - and I don't know about Lowell.

~DGB

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HENCE MY WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT AFTER I HAVE ATE HUMBLE PIE

The humble pie is baking, get your bib and fork, and go look for her buddies, I need help.

Other players, too.

This is a race to find Kats' buddies.

~DGB

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Note the confirmage in Katsuki not having a target to reveal in her post today.

Sheeping spyrex would be the way to go.

Why sheep the wolf in sheep's clothing?

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p3034877
^Seals Katsuki's fate. I'll budge since she has a wagon on her.

Unvote; Vote: Katsuki

. SpyreX, you're living on borrowed time. Know this.

~DGB

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MOAR HELP FINDING KATS' BUDDIES

pleeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssseeeeeee

~DGB

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POST #1 - distancing? This random vote morphed into full blown suspicion, top of Kats' scumlist.

I'll be here promise!

Vote: AGM

;_;
After all we've been through
This is all it meant to you?

Buddying, xRECK is town.

But I'm already bussing.

and again...

Wingdamage lynch is a go.

Katsuki is also scum. However, she will bus her buddies, so she can be lynched second.

Damn straight I'm already bussing.

I like how my vote is on scum.

It's not looking good for AGM. Also, he's floating on top of the scumputer results.

Spyspy looks like you are right about AGM.

There is MEGA AGM bus'ing.

One of the players mentioned may be scum:

Amrun

is town. Albeit misguided, but nonetheless town.

Cobble

is scum.

Spyspy

votes are lols.

Sathosis

= ?

Looking at post #51, Cobbler is prob scum. As is Amrun. But these were competing wagons so... and AGM is still scum. In post #53, Sathosis looks like a likely candidate.

VERDICT: AGM (Scumputer bonus points), SpyreX, Sathosis are good candidates.

~DGB

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I think Kats just claimed she hid behind Lowell.

Does that make Lowell town, or Kats' scumpal?

~DGB

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If I were a blocker I would have blocked Sathoris.
If I were a hider I would have hid behind xRECKx.
If I were a doctor I would have protected Juls.

~DGB

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Clicking preview. Earlier there was nothing that hadn't been said.

Name Kats' buddies please. It's a fairly quick iso.

[CrimpingNoofball]

Amrun, Almaster and/or Juls, SpyreX, and Pacman. And Reck as a non-partner.

I like you.

Pacman because his name appears only once in Katsu's ISO as part of the draft of a hider list.

A good point that escaped me.

~ DGB

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I'll even play make believe and look for these buddies before the flip if you do it.

Hurry, you're stalling. You've been stalling for hours already.

~DGB

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I'm not stalling. I flat out said I wasn't doing it.

Do eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

Do it now.

Stop pretending you don't know that Kats is scum. Are things so hopeless for your scum team, that you don't want to bother? I can't figure your behavior (stalling, not looking for Kats partners) as town-motivated.

~DGB

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...and you'll get your analysis.

And

NOW

is when we need it. AGAIN. There is no reason to withhold this information if you're town. If you're scum, I totally can see your motivation:

"what's the point? we're losing bad."

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

Strike two.

And it's strike 10,000,000 for you for failing to list Kats' buddies.

~DGB

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And this whole "we're losing bad" for scum is really, really awesome.

I know, eh? It must be spot on.

~DGB

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True fact:

tajo hammered Katsuki.

Katsuki is at L+2.

@ Cobbler
With Katsuki overlynched, there is zero point in me answering your question.

~DGB

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dgb, your spyrex hate is irrational

Maybbe. maybbe not.

I suspect the scum is 100% on the Kats wagon, they would want a fast day to minimize the damage.

~DGB

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I wub you cupcake! Better luck next time.

~DGB

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WAIT UNTIL YOU GUYS GET INTO LYLO AND GET AUTOLYNCHED

OK - dram is the other partner!

~DGB

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HAHAHAHA!

VOTE MASTER LUDI

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Though be advised, we are still interest in EATING AGM'S HEART. but Ludi.. any defense before you die?


-c

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We can, however, wait for a claim.
That is L-1. No shenanegans.

UNVOTE

[CrimpingNoofball]

Until I am ready for bed, we can wait, that is



-c
ps: it will be camn all day, dgb is vla

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why does this feel like cobbler knows ludi targetted someone night one?

@tajo: if Ludi = town (which is unlikely), AND benmage actually tracked him (which he did) then it stands to reason Ludi has a role that Targets.
If it were a town role, then he would have targeted someone Night 1, as well, RIGHT?!
T H U S
Cobb is setting Ludi up to fake-claim Cop or something. This is clear.

In other news, children, MamaDGB is gone, and Mamacamn is here... so lets have some rational discourse before we kill us some more scum.
Enough with the nonsense and the stupid memes. You especially, C-worl. I dont do well with incivility.

I agree with Juls' last post. We were expecting to be quite dead. We are a little suspicious of tajo. And AGM.
Luckily, we have a little treat prepared for anyone who might want to visit US in the night.
ALSO, we would apreciate it if Ludi would get in here and claim. We enjoy hearing the pathetic last ramblings of caught scum, as they try and bargain for their lives. But we will be laying down our vote before bed if he fails to do so.

[CrimpingNoofball]

Then you may want to avoid playing games with me in the future. Half my strategy is causing scumfrustration via ad hominem

Or I could just kill/vig/lynch you immediately every game... starting with this one?

[CrimpingNoofball]

There is simply no way you live tonight, Ludo.
Benmage dies if Ludi flips town.
If benmage THEN flips town.. we have some serious busdriver-shit going on.

If you ARE town, Magister... give us your reads pronto. We dont have time to waste.

VOTE: MAGISTER LUDI

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Wrong Spyrex. We dont believe him at all.

VOTE: POPULARTAJO

Tajo must die.

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Wrong SPYREX. Amrun is likely pops partner.
But Tajo is a liar. I can taste it.

and Kanye- Tajo is our lynch today. Get things straight.

And pop? Why should we trust you?
Tell us your other targets. Then we'll decide if we want your results.

-c

[CrimpingNoofball]

I will consider reconsidering once you tell us your targets. Not results, yet.
Otherwise I breathe fire.



-c

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SPYREX: imagine that Amrun is the Mafia Weakling.
Imagine he and Tajo are the last 2 alive.
Imagine poptajo is getting tons of heat.

How would YOU play it? Obv, you would claim guilty on your buddy.

We will entertain an Amrun lynch today, but only if Tajo dies tomorrow regardless of flip.

Tajo: sound about right?

[CrimpingNoofball]

Tajo: does the Weakling role flip as Encrypter or something?
If not, how are you planning on explaining that?

[CrimpingNoofball]

Alright, lemme think it over. No quickhammers.
I need to talk to goof.

You guys make some good points... But Tajo is lying scum. I can smell his lies and blood.


-c

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And Tajo: who did you target night 1?

[CrimpingNoofball]

Oh shit!

You have a vanilla result night 2?

FULLCLAIM NOW!


-all c so far sorry

[CrimpingNoofball]

Who is your partner, tajo?


-c

[CrimpingNoofball]

Shit.
I believe him.

But a move as silly as fakeclaiming as town... Deserves death?

[CrimpingNoofball]

Am I getting this right? Tajo fakeclaimed a BREADCRUMB, then called it a gambit? Or am I having hallucinations?

~DGB

[CrimpingNoofball]

CNB, you seriously think tajo and I are scumbuddies? Can I ask you in what universe that makes sense?

Amrun is town 100%

~DGB

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Why would you BREACRUMB a role, tajo? A role that you do not have. WHY?

It doesn't make any sense that you would have BREADCRUMBED ROLECOP ****AND**** invented a last minute gambit because you were getting lynched "anyway."

[CrimpingNoofball]

Also, I'm not the mod, but civility is always more fun.

~DGB

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Another thing that bugs is why would tajo claim another night choice on Cobbler. In addition to a fake result on Amrun.

A good gambit would stop before reaching that point. That's going too deep.

I like camn's Weakling Bus theory, actually.

~DGB

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HEY! CHILDREN!

IT was a silly play for tajo-town to make. A better one for scum-tajo. But we will see the flip soon.
If he were town, and didn't lie, I might have defended him.

All that aside.. enough with the cursing. It hurts my heart.

-camn

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oops. quituple post ftw.

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I do see it. He's left with a Weakling. Invent a fake result, be anointed town for the rest of the game, get rid of a liability. Maybe tajo is the Godfather for extra bonus.

Amrun smells town, though, in his reaction. Sometimes the most elegant resolution is a fantasy, and reality is more gritty.

~DGB

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What about him in particular?

~DGB

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I think C-W is a poor innocent little rabbit.

~DGB

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After taking a shower, Im less sure of Amrum, I think she should be lynched sooner or later though.

RECK IN THE OTHER HAND IS DEFINITELY SCUM.

This is a pretty easy situation here:

We have enough scum down to afford to test tajo's claim. If Amrun flips encryptor, he's cleared. If she doesn't, we lynch the fuck out of him the next day.

Vote: Amrun

he wasnt even worried of checking my claim, as AMG, Spy and Juls did.

You didn't answer my concern about your breadcrumbing for last-ditch gambits but hey.

Looks to me like he proposed to check your claim. How can you say that he didn't?

~dgb

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If tajo is town, I am now inclined to agree. If tajo is scum, C-Worl blood will be sought by me.

I'd say that if tajo is scum, CW is EVEN MORE a poor, innocent little rabbit.

~DGB

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fun fact : ludi never mentioned reck

fun fact x2: if you iso reck day 1, he looks too sure katsuki is scum.

Who else did Ludi fail to mention?

Reck can be awesome that way, though.

He wasn't the only one sure that Kats was scum.

~DGB

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Hey Tajo

Can you do a wagon analysis? I'm on a sucky browser and a sucky computer. I have one started, iso to find it.

~DGB