Battle for Olympus - Game Over!

[LordChronos]

Vote: RangeroftheNorth

Too long of a name.

[LordChronos]

She doesn't always drink Dos Equis
but when she does

ho ho ho she beats her family

This post makes my head hurt. Does chesskid always act like this?

@Snow Bunny

You gonna make an actual vote or not?

[LordChronos]

@Gemini

I asked because I feel that voting the mod is a cop out. It lets a player avoid actually making a vote that counts while still appearing to be doing something. For Snow Bunny it may be a town tell or it may be null. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

[LordChronos]

@Ranger

Voting a player, as opposed to voting the mod. That should have been fairly clear from my post.

@diddin

How does SD's buddying and Ranger arguing with him about the confirmed-ness of MoI make Ranger probtown?

@chesskid

Who were you accusing of rolefishing?

[LordChronos]

Vote SD

Lets start with the person who raises the wrong mythology.

Struggling with poor connection

Really, really, really bad reason to vote someone.

Especially since that someone has a bandwagon on them.

Unvote; Vote: Baby Spice

Gotta go to calc class, more posting later.

[LordChronos]

@LordChronos - Okay, I get that reasoning, but how much do you think a normal random vote "counts"? Do you think a scum player would be more likely to vote for the mod or to just make a totally random vote like everyone else to fit in? Also, one more thing and then I will probably leave you alone - do you have any prior experience that makes you think this is a scum tell?

Obviously it doesn't count much, but it certainly counts more than not making an actual vote. I would say it depends on the scum player. If that scum player has voted for the mod before as town they might be inclined to vote for the mod again to try to manipulate meta. If you are asking if I have played any games with someone who was scum and voted for the mod instead of making a random vote, the answer is no.

@Snow Bunny

I already answered that question. I think voting the mod is a cop-out.

[LordChronos]

You call BS? You wanna CC? I won't claim my SP. Not now, i.e. today (D1), at least.

Shadow, we've been through this already. Andrius and dana have both given fakeclaims to all scum members in the past. So it's likely that scum have fakeclaims now. Thus, there probably will be no CC to your Poseidon claim regardless of whether or not you are scum.

But it's noted you are trying to use that as a defense.

@chesskid

Why a Chronopie wagon?

[LordChronos]

Eh, coincidence, though out of game references are more likley to be town.

Short, concise, utterly random = town
semi-random,contrived = scum

Chess, do you have examples to support this?

Damn kids.

Thanks Quadz.

unvote, vote LordChronos

That is a pathetic excuse. Your kids can't make you type Chronopie instead of LordChronos. Say you messed up if you messed up, but don't try to shift the blame. Also, do you have any original thoughts about the game so far? So far you sheeped the "scumslip" reason for voting SD, agreed that Dekes was scummy but didn't vote him, then voted me for the joke reason I posted with my RVS vote cause chess said it was scummy.

Happy with my vote for now.

[LordChronos]

Magna - it was potentially a piece of information worth using as a basis for comparison and fleshing things out. I did notice the different colors in the pre-game character deaths and, comparing them with my own color information, thought that a color-claim at this time could potentially help confirm or weaken the claim in the eyes of at least specific player-roles.

I don't see that color claim will be helpful to town at all, given that SD says his is teal-blue, you said yours is pink, and the pre-game death ones are a different color entirely. Why would you think that the color used in the role pm is likely to help confirm a claim?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: LordChronos

Early push towards Snow Bunny for modvote was scummy; next post (responding to Gemini) says it "might be a towntell or null, but I don't have to like it" which is him backtracking.
Says very little else outside of answering questions about that push, UNTIL
He says he's happy with his vote on Baby Spice, citing her pushing the blame for voting Chronopie instead of LC onto her children. Explain the scum motivation for shifting the game to a non-game entity to me, cause I think that it's a huge reach.

How was my response to Gemini backtracking?

My comment about being happy with my vote on Baby Spice had more to do with her declaration that Dekes is scummy then sheeping chesskid in voting me than it did with her utterly lame excuse for voting Chronopie first. Sorry for the confusion.

Explain the town motivation for shifting the game to a non-game entity rather than simply admitting the mistake to me. I agree with MoI that it doesn't seem likely that you could ISO someone, decide to vote them, then vote someone else.

[LordChronos]

adsfjadfadf

This is an incredibly helpful and not space wasting post.

@mothrax

So you were sheeping?

[LordChronos]

lololololololololololololololololno. I didn't vote for the wrong person while sheeping.

To clarify, in this quote you meant "I didn't vote for the wrong person and I didn't sheep." , right? (I read it as "I didn't vote for the wrong person when I was sheeping".)

[LordChronos]

7eah mean dekes is prety obv town no?

I have no idea what you are trying to say here, chess. What does "7eah" mean?

[LordChronos]

Why do you say he can't be mafia?

The rules say that the mafia is made of foreign Gods and Goddesses. AGar says he knows that Poseidon is not a fakeclaim. Thus Non-CC'd SD can't be scum, though he could be an SK or other non-scum, non-town role.

[LordChronos]

Was busy with calc homework and practice test and actual test and essay and chem lab and chem homework and Easter weekend. Reading tonight, posting tomorrow.

Welcome ooba!

[LordChronos]

Why would I answer MoI's deliberate misrep of the situation?

Why would I dignify his lie with an answer?

How does he interprit my mistaking Chronos and Chronopie, as me mistaking LordChronos and Chronopie?
Why does he think I would not try to spell someones name right, or for that matter, get their gender right?
When I have apologiesed in the past for misspelling someone's name.
Why does he, and yourself, continue with this crap when someone else has actually admitted thet they themselves have confused Chronos and Chronopie?

Missrepping this badly makes MoI scum, as there is no other reason to do it, and once a certain game ends I'll proove he misreps crap like that.

There is no one named Chronos in this game though. Hell, I don't know that I can remember anyone abbreviating my name as Chronos. Usually it's LC. Also, MoI is almost certainly not scum because of his making a claim that insures his death before LyLo. Also, who else said they confused me with Chronopie?

Answer the question: Why am I scummy?

@gandalf

Using logic to win the game is not retarded. Gut instinct is not exactly infallible.

[LordChronos]

Also, can we do:

Chronopie = Chrono
LordChronos = LC

Because I've actually thought for the past long time that CK wanted to pressure Chronopie. <_<

Might wanna read that again.

[LordChronos]

I think BS looks pretty good unless the fakeclaims in this game come in the form of "full" PM fakeclaims. That, or BS is a clever enough scum that I'd be willing to let her live a few days on principle.

Do we know scum daytalk status? That would be a significant interfering factor.

Why does the Iris name claim make her not scum exactly?

[LordChronos]

Totally agree that hider doesn't fit Iris at all. And if Andrius has given flavor before, the color thing doesn't hold water for me either.

[LordChronos]

It is possible, but based on the very limited knowledge I have right now I seriously do not think so.

And this knowledge is?

Unvote

Revote later after more review of thread.

[LordChronos]

@AGM

What does the fact that there is apparently a bus driver have to do with the reliability of Iecerint's result on you?

[LordChronos]

Your role was definitely totally overpowered. As another example, in Greek Mythology I was a cop/doc/roleblocker town JOAT with a super power to block all normal powers for a night. Not quite as good as Iecerint's, but still powerful.

[LordChronos]

(Also, it looks like your find indicates that there aren't 2 mafia factions sooo /fail on my part. Every large I've been in since forever has had 2 scumteams.)

Which find exactly? How do you explai three NKs then?

I believe he is talking about the line in the rules saying that the mafia faction is made up of non-Greeks. As opposed to factions. Under that theory, the 3 kills would require either a vig and a super power to kill or a vig and an SK or an SK and a super to kill. Something like that.

Lynch1:AV

Not sure who I want for second lynch yet.

@AV

Iec used his super today. Thus it wouldn't be affected by a busdrive. Nice try though.

[LordChronos]

I got an idea


AV shoots someone like Chronopie

if they dont die
we lynch AV + another lynch candidate
if AV flips town then that person he tried to shoot is conftown
if AV flips scum and the person he shot no die, we lycnh them tomorrow or osmething

I'm sorry, why does AV flipping scum = whoever he tries to shoot being scum/3rd party? That assumption requires that he is lying about his role and that he makes sure to use it on a scumpartner, both of which seem like fairly large assumptions.

@SD

Stop with the rolefishing. It's fairly clear why Dekes says your jailkeep failed.

[LordChronos]

See above, but substitute midterms for end-of-semester. Lots of free time tomorrow.

[LordChronos]

Ugh, the whole gandalf-chess statistics argument was a massive waste of space.

AGM is acting like Iec's result on him is accurate. No pro-town posting at all.

AV is posting stuff that is invalid, since he is scum.

gandalf isn't making sense re: SD SK belief.

I think I will go with

Lynch2:AGM

@gandalf

Did you have information about someone else's role prior to Night 1?

@Gemini

Why buddy interactions are you seeing between Dekes and quadz? I went back and looked at them some more and I don't see anything like that, though that might just be me being sleep deprived.

[LordChronos]

chesskid's arguments about humans noticing patterns is actually extremely good. It has nothing to do with statistics. The point is that humans are more likely to subconsciously think a series of numbers is not random if it has a pattern. However, I disagree with the end conclusion - in my mind, the numbers being consecutive seem more attributable to laziness during fabrication.

Lynch 2: Gandalf

chesskid's argument is pathetic and weak. Why gandalf for lynch2?

[LordChronos]

On further news, you are providing to the SPAMFESTTM a lot in that your signal-to-noise-ratio is like... infinity to 1. Seriously, point out one actual content post of yours.

All of them.

I have no idea what is going on in this giant shithole.

This is a content post now?

And no, chesskid's argument was a bunch of bullshit.

[LordChronos]

excuse me I made one content less post indicating I did not know what's going on.

How about we talk about YOU, for a bit, eh scumbag? I read your iso and it's a lot of talking about nothing. no much scumhunting. No list of town/scumreads anywhere. Who are the scum, other than LOL ME AND AV (who you piled on at the end with a loljustification)?

I picked one post, I can pick more.

As opposed to you, who totally didn't pile on AV. Uh huh. I think everyone piled on AV.

Anyway, as far as scumreads go, I think Axel is scummy for mostly talking setup/theory, gandalf is scummy pending an answer to my question to him for belief that SD was a SK but not redirecting him. You are scummy for reasons discussed above.

For town reads, MoI, Gemini, and AGar are at the top of my list. chess is anti-town and annoying, not sure whether town or scum though.

I've been quite busy previously, you should see more content from me as the game goes on.

[LordChronos]

@chess

Because he said Almaster was like throwing dirt at gandalf
and yeth e also finds Gandalf scummy

does not compute

I don't believe I said Almaster was throwing dirt at gandalf. Could you quote that for me, or would you like to admit that you are making things up?

@AGM

uh oh

Dear AGM: you don't know shit

dear mothrax: fuck you

what the fuck is this shit

and you of all people are not entitled to question anybody's thought process

You were saying?

[LordChronos]

@AGM

– It would be a good idea for you to unvote AV for the moment. Your claim is worth discussing. Thanks.

On one hand AGM is absolutely correct - his claim is unproveable. On the other hand his reaction to AV’s claim and what I know about my role seems to bolster my thought that his claim is true.

I also agree that Quadz would certainly be a good alternative to AGM.

AGM (7) – AGar, Quadz, LC, ShadowDancer, Gandalf, Chronopie, MoI

Anyone listed here … how many of you are willing to flip to Quadz who had 3 votes?

I am. That’s one.

I am willing to lynch quadz over AGM in light of the claim and quadz's 3rd party comment, which makes no sense from a town point of view.

[LordChronos]

@Gemini

Total coincidence that I voted just after Quadz. I was trying to catch back up after being busy with midterms.

@SD

And you claimed mine. I liked my GM powers better than the ones you claimed though.

[LordChronos]

JOAT is more fun then jailkeeper. WHat was your super? I can't remember.

Roleblock all normal powers for a night.

[LordChronos]

quadz: Did you ask Charon about what Hellfire/Spring/Winter/Summer/Autumn do?

[LordChronos]

As I said earlier, I find Axel scummmy. So I'll go with

Lynch2: Axelrod

.

[LordChronos]

Axel rubbed me the wrong way on D1 with his prying, but D2 has been fairly null. Still like Mothrax better, as I feel like he's just trying to lurk his way out of this one here.

Axel's claim summary post with absolutely no opinions about scum or who the lynch today should be rubs me the wrong way.

Also, lol at AGM's vote on you. Clueless is putting it mildly.

[LordChronos]

Vote: LC

fuck this lynch 2 shit

I'll be in my other games where hopefully people are willing to lynch obvscum.

I got a better idea
people who aren't for his lynch
WHY THE FUCK IS HE TOWN?

Think for a second about what you are saying: you want others to prove me town via arguments. However, that isn't possible. A negative can't be proved via an argument like that. Neither is it their responsibility to. it is solely up to you as accuser to provide evidence. Accusers bear the burden of proof, not defendants. To pretend otherwise just makes you look foolish. Of course, you probably don't care, do you? Shadow is perfectly correct that you are just making yourself look bad.

@Shadow

What power claim are you referring to?

[LordChronos]

lololol scumclaim

Um, no. Try thinking for a minute. I cannot construct an argument that proves me town without involving powers/roles. Neither can anyone else. Make sense now? Logic is hard, I know.

[LordChronos]

So nobody thinks its scummy that chrono posts
- Doesn't weigh in on Axel vs mothrax
- Doesn't Give his thoughts about AGM's claim
- Doesn't tell us who is a good L2 for today

It is slightly scummy and definitely annoying. But I don't think chronopie is a better lynch two for today than Axel or mothrax. Consider that Chronopie claimed to have given AGar a double vote today, and AGar is likely town. Doesn't mean Chronopie is definitely town, but certainly makes it more likely.

[LordChronos]

Consider also the timing, though...he basically brought it up as soon as people started questioning his townieness, whereas it's not necessarily any of town's business where the doublevote came from...

I am picking up ooba-ellipses....

So you think he is scum/3rd party trying to get town points then by making AGar double voter?
What do you mean by ooba-ellipses? Do you mean that you think there is something missing from his argument.

Other news:

Don't like mothrax's lack of anything after he said he'd post today.

@quadz

I'd guess the AGM wagon didn't build back up mostly because of his doc / super doc claim. I suppose one reason to go for AGM over Axel or mothrax is to avoid forcing out yet another claim. He certainly isn't playing like intelligent town as well.

[LordChronos]

In http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 995113Post #552 he remarks that MoI is "almost certainly" not scum because of his claim which "insures" his death before LoL. Which just seems silly to say. Like, how do you figure his death is insured? Are you planning to lynch him? Even though you think he's "almost certainly" not scum? He's challenging BS to specify what she finds scummy about him, which is fine. BS was really just waggoning with Chesskid here, and Chesskid never really said much about why he was on LC's case.

He sticks with the vote following BS's claim. Says the Hider ability doesn't fit the role. Which is something I suppose he might believe, but then, in #763 he unvotes. It appears he might be following along with SD, in as much as SD is arguing he believes BS's claim and thinks it + her ability means she isn't scum. Say's he'll revote after a review, but doesn't get back before Gandalf ends the day. GEE GANDALF, THAT HELPED US SO MUCH.

Here he questions a plan of Chesskids (which might not have made any sense), but more interestingly to me, chastises SD to stop "role-fishing" re: Dekes. SD claimed he jailkept Dekes. Dekes claimed he was not jailkept. One would think the conflict between those claims would be of interest, but LC doesn't seem interested about it at all.

#1205 Is probably his longest post of the game. This is where he's going to commit to a second lynch (after the obv. AV). The person he picks is...AGM. His reasoning? "AGM is acting like Ice's result on him is accutare. No protown posting at all."

This whole post is a summary type post. "Gandalf - Chess argument was a waste of space." "AV is posting stuff that is invalid." "Gandalf isn't making sense re:SD SK belief." This post is pretty scummy.

He then follows MoI and says he's willing to lynch Quadz after AGM has claimed Doc. He agrees with MoI about the "third party comment". Nothing more really said until he jumps to me after Quadz treestump. On me, he just says "as I said earlier" he finds me scummy. He reaffirms this by criticizing my post compiling all the claims in the thread (which I had already made, but he hadn't previously commented on).

He has an awful lot of "question" posts in this game. These are typically 1-liners. They are rarely followed up on. I guess he always satisfied by the answer he gets? Too many of those starts to look scummy. It's a way to stay looking interested without having to really comment or commit yourself to anything. He's mostly following along this game. Posting infrequently. Giving a bare minimum of informed opinions.

Re: MoI

If you would like to have a hated townie alive in LyLo, be my guest. Don't blame me when you lose. Ideally, of course, we will lynch all the scum and any third party before we get to LyLo, but we also can't let MoI enter a LyLo situation or the scum will lynch him for the win, yes?

Re: My Unvote of BS

The unvote came after BS used her super to have the mod post that message for her. Maybe you can extrapolate from that why I unvoted then as opposed to unvoting after a hider claim from the goddess of rainbows.

Re: Rolefishing

I thought it was quite clear what Dekes meant. He has some kind of role that generates a result and he got a result when he used it. Further inquiries as to what that role is only draw out more claims and help guide scum.

Re: Summary Post

Of course it was a summary, I was catching up after having been busy. Since then I have been putting more effort in to this game, though still perhaps not as much as I ought to.

Re: Quadz

MoI and I were far from the only ones to mention that comment as odd. Why single me out as "following" him?

Re: Posting short posts

I don't do long walls generally. I make short posts unless I really get worked up about something. I tend to ask too many questions and don't do enough analysis. These are things I am trying to do better at.

[LordChronos]

2 days works for me.

[LordChronos]

Ooba, even if I was scum, I think it would be bad form to out anyone from the other scumteam,

Is this confirmation of two scum teams? Remember, outing members from a different scum team is playing to your win con, not bad form.

No, it's scum AV WIFOMing with us.

[LordChronos]

Looking back, mothrax didn't even raise an eyebrow after Shadow's claim and chess' counterclaim. With chess making a big deal out of two similar roles in the setup, you'd think mothrax would press Shadow and/or chess even more. Unless, of course, mothrax is lying scum who didn't want to get involved there.

Gotta agree with that. Also, why would town-mothrax roleblock AGar?

[LordChronos]

Persephone being pink makes perfect sense. She's the goddess of freaking springtime. That said, Hestia IS also the goddess of family. Maybe that's why it's baby blue?

Hestia is not goddess of family, Hera is. And I can't think of a reason for Hestia to be blue.

WTB Vote count.

[LordChronos]

Vote: ConSpiracy

4 AV / 4 Con

[LordChronos]

Ok, this is annoying. I had nothing to do with Axelrod's death. Want a claim?

[LordChronos]

Also @ Iec: No I'm not castrator. If you need more of claim I can do that.

@ooba

Did you have info from whatever you did yesterday to share?

[LordChronos]

Fine. I targeted Snow_Bunny last night. My role has to do with why there are multiple death stages.

[LordChronos]

@SD

Absolutely nothing. I was blocked/redirected. Probably redirected, since gandalf claimed doing that.

[LordChronos]

Also, I purposely picked Axel because nobody ever would have NKd him. Unless a vig wants to step up, LC IS scum. There's no point in asking him to fakeclaim.

@SD: what I'm saying is that if he IS going to Target me, I don't want to fullclaim. But since it looks like he's not doing that anyways, I just want confirmation from him before I fullclaim.

And yet someone did NK Axel. And it wasn't me.

[LordChronos]

No flavor, just the message that it failed. It lets me talk to the person I target for the following Day and Night.

[LordChronos]

No flavor, just the message that it failed. It lets me talk to the person I target for the following Day and Night.

And you targeted Snoe_bunny because ... ?!?

Wanted to see if she had any information for the town. The other choices were Plum, diddin, AV, and ConSpiracy. Obviously I wasn't going to pick AV or ConSpiracy.

[LordChronos]

@LC: From the way you're talking about it, I'm assuming it's a normal power. I repeat: WHAT DID BABY SPICE SAY

It is my normal power. BabySpice felt you were town. Didn't say too much else.

I am Thanatos, Greek God of Death and Mortality.

My passive power is that I am part of a neighborhood, which I won't say who else is there yet.
My normal power is Whisper, which let's me target a dead player each night and speak to them for the following day and night.
My super is Commune, which establishes permanent communication between me and a dead player for the rest of the game. Haven't used it yet.

Night 1 I targeted Baby Spice, Night 2 I targeted Snow_Bunny.

[LordChronos]

So ... scum neighborizer.

Isn't neighborizer usually a power that works on live players?

[LordChronos]

My passive power is that I am part of a neighborhood, which I won't say who else is there yet.

Simple Question - Does this neighborhood have day-talk?

It does and has since the start of Day 1. Why do you ask?

[LordChronos]

The one thing that makes me wonder about Iec is that he's not dead........

PEDIT: That could easily be made up, and I don't like that your normal and your super basically do the same thing. Guess what other two people had supers that did the same thing as their normals: AV and ConSpiracy. Wait, were they the ones who flipped scum. Damn.

I think AGM means scum NEIGHBOR, not neighborizer.

Iec's super is a stronger slightly different version of his normal. AGM's special is a stronger version of his normal. Your point?

And it's not my fault that my ability is basically impossible to confirm.

[LordChronos]

@LC: How is your ability impossibe to confirm. The neighborhood part is easily confirmed. And I think there are ways to confirm comunication with dead players. Nothing confirms your alignent, though.
What I ask myself: Who would motivate Gandalf after his D1 stunt?
Does any one want to claim to have been motivated tonight?

The neighborhood part yes.

@Dekes
I hadn't questioned gandalf's claim because his redirecting me would explain why my action failed. Though it is a little odd that he just happened to redirect me to a kill.

@All

Anyone want information from a dead townie before I die? I can still use my super.

@Gemini

Thanatos is as much a Greek god as Iris or Asclepius.

[LordChronos]

LC, could you elaborate a bit more on the flavour of your role and powers?

Flavor of role is that I personify death and am used to seeing it. I assist in running the Underworld. I am afraid of the deicide going on here becuase it might bring death to me.

Flavor on powers is basically just saying I can whisper a target at night to talk to them.

@gandalf

Why kill me if chess roleblocked me as well as you redirecting me?

[LordChronos]

Because chess DIDNT roleblock you. He blocked Chrono.

He said he blocked LC. Is LC an abbreviation for Chronopie now?

[LordChronos]

@Gandalf

I think you are stretching there. Passive means an ability that's always in effect. Like my being a neighbor.

@chess

Gandalf claimed he was motivated night 1, not that he was a motivator.

---

Thinking about using my super on Axel. If someone has a compelling reason for me not to do so, please let me know.

[LordChronos]

Commune: Axelrod

[LordChronos]

No cute spell as with Quadz?

Nope. Waiting on Axel's response now.

[LordChronos]

News from the land of the dead: Axelrod's super was called Omnipotence and basically meant he wouldn't die the first time he was killed, whether by night-kill or lynch or vig etc. However, the power had one exception, (mod said so). Axel assumes that this exception is why he died last night, but he wasn't given any info as to what killed him.

To Gandalf, From Axel: Wrong again. Surprise surprise.

@Dekes

Well, gandalf and AGM are probably the scummiest on the wagon. AGar and ooba have been town reads for me for a while.

@gandalf

You can drop the chesskid failclaim argument now since Axel's super also worked with his death.

[LordChronos]

Also, by the way, Axel is string claiming cause he doesn't fully trust me and wants to make sure I deliver accurate info. He clarified that he was told the exception to his super is what killed him but he doesn't get to know it until he moves to Forgotten by the Mortals.

In addition to his super, Axel had 3 1 shot abilities. The first of these, unused, was a execute ability that killed a player who was at L-1. He was saving it for later use.

[LordChronos]

Also, by the way, Axel is string claiming cause he doesn't fully trust me and wants to make sure I deliver accurate info. He clarified that he was told the exception to his super is what killed him but he doesn't get to know it until he moves to Forgotten by the Mortals.

Will he ever move there, now that you can permanently talk to him? I mean - as long as he talks ha can hardly be forgotten... (Though we aren't mortals )

He will move there if I die. Apart from that, no.

Also, I believe that answers your first question about why you have to ask me important questions like these.

His second one-shot power was to make any one else lynch immune for a day. He was thinking about using it on Baby Spice Day 1 but then gandalf went and used his super.

[LordChronos]

So we will never know what killed him... But maybe we have a superkilling SK or he was double targeted, though I doubt the latter. The step from lynch candidate to urgent NK is far too steep.
Yes, you answered my question. I was typing it while reading along and had not read your next post when I asked.
I just hope his third is something with useful and peferably confirmable information O_o

I hope so too. Questions from Axel:

For AGar: Did you get a PM telling you you were granted a double vote/graced on N1? Was your statement that you know" the scum had a RB from some kind of role-based knowledge or werehe just guessing/assuming?

Who did Chesskid RB on N1 and is there a reason not to say?

Did SD get a PM telling him about his redirection from Dekes to AV on Night 1? Also, who did he jail on N2 and is there a reason not to say who?

What did MoI do on N1?

Dekes said he had reason to believe Mothrax was Town, but then began to doubt it. What was that reason and is there a reason not to say?

Who did AGM Doc protect on N2. Is there a reason not to say?

[LordChronos]

LC, here's the thing:

Axelrod last visited the site on ..

Last visited: Wed May 20, 2011 9:42 pm

which was even before the day started!

So all this QT creation (which you had to do in-thread lol) and questions for Axel is a fraud and nothing more than a role\night action fishing attempt while saving your own skin.

Die, scum, die!!

I guess it's not possible for Axelrod to be reading the thread while logged in with the hide online button checked. Also, when I go look at Axel's member page it doesn't even have a last visit time listed.

@chess

It matters if you die and no one knows who you roleblocked. If they are scum or 3rd party (the only people your death-roleblock would be useful against), don't they probably already know they were roleblocked? It could be helpful to know someone who could not have killed night 1 and it could be helpful to know someone who will not be able to take an action if you die. But we can't do anything with that if you keep it to yourself.

[LordChronos]

This is why you should check utils. utils lists the last time they logged on to the site - hidden\not hidden - meaning he couldn't have got the PM for the hypothetical QT which was created ..

Where in the MS Utils does it show this information? Because I'm not seeing it.

I don't see it either. Last post, yes. Posts per day, yes. Log in, no.

@gandalf

Have you actually verified what ooba is saying or are you just jumping back on my wagon blindly?

[LordChronos]

ooba, check Axel's member page again.

[LordChronos]

@LC: Was testing you out - of course there is nothing on utils .. Basically it's because I find this entire Axel thing suspicious ..
- Why do you have to do it in thread ?? (Commune)
- A super claim which has an exception. The only exception to a super I can think of is another super like a scum super kill which passes all blocks - why would they use it on Axel instead of Iece?
- These bunch of questions - "Who did AGM Doc protect on N2. Is there a reason not to say?"

I wish at least one of you (SD\MoI) had caught on and supported me on this ..

I'm actually now not sure I needed to use commune in thread, I don't think. I was not thinking that clearly when I posted it in thread.

Oh my god. If only I had thought of that before making it up. After all, claiming that Axel's super had an exception adds so much to my credibility here. /sarcasmoff

What about the bunch of questions do you find suspicious exactly?

[LordChronos]

all my claim confirms is that LC didnt perform a kill.
Shrug

I'll block gandalf tonight so the fat fuck can see i'm an rber.

I have no doubt you're a RBer. That's not a valid excuse to block obvtown, sorry.

Thanks for your long and riveting response to my question about whether you actually checked ooba's story before voting me.

[LordChronos]

Thanks for your long and riveting response to my question about whether you actually checked ooba's story before voting me.

I loled hard

I do love sarcasm.

[LordChronos]

- Axel could have crumbed "Zeus"
- "He never claimed he had to do it in thread!" - and the point being? I am acusing him of lying and if you're telling me he actually did it in thread when he didn't have to then its a point on my side ..
- Give me another power which could override a super power protect. A scum super mass roleblock comes to mind but Iece got his result.
And I didn't ask you to lynch him based on the stunt I pulled. I wanted reactions - I can see the last egyptian going "Ah shucks I tried" without verifying it ..

Wow, that'd be useful. Axel pointing out a Zeus crumb when he is mod-confirmed to be Zeus.

[LordChronos]

So, Axel says that if I stop telling you guys what he said accurately, he'll turn his hide online status to hidden again. That make you happy that I'm talking to him and reporting accurately?

On the subject of Axel's super's weakness, can anyone think of some mythological weakness Zeus had that might do it?

[LordChronos]

So, I agree that Dekes is probably scum. Gemini-scum doesn't have a motive for a 1v1 right now, I don't think. As far as lynch for today, I'm in favor of a gandalf lynch. gandalf or a scumbuddy killing Axel and then claiming a redirect of me to Axel explains how that happened. Also, the last two people to claim powers that were possessed by town were scum. Since Axel doesn't have a reason to lie to me about his power, that further suggests gandalf scum. Also, gandalf's super has little to do with either his rolename or his normal.

Vote: gandalf5166

Summary of claims from Axel:
Chronopie: Hebe. N1: Targeted AGar (SUCCESS + AGar received confirmation) N2: Targeted Shadow Dancer (FAILURE, no explanation as of yet) Used perma-extra vote super on AGar D3

AGar: Knows "Poseidon" is in the game and not a false-claim. Also said he knows via role-based info. that Diddin killed Snow Bunny.

Shadow Dancer: Poseidon. N1: Jailed Dekes (supposedly re-directed by Gandalf to AV) Don't know if SD has confirmed that he knows he was re-directed. N1 used Super to find out who had used their Super abilities so far this game. N2: Jailed ?

Icerint: Dionysus. N1 Copped someone but re-directed to AGM by Gandalf. Got "Jesus Christ". D2 Used Super to Cop AV. N2: Copped Chronopie. Got "Shiva the Destroyer."

Ooba: Has claimed he used his Super at the end of D2. Confirmed by SD.

Dekes: Used his Super abilitie on N1. Has claimed he knows that Snow Bunny used her Super Ability (which SD has also stated). Claimed watcher , masons with tracker Snow Bunny.

Gemini: Claimed rolecop super, used it on Dekes, claimed result of Ra.

AGM: Asclepius. Doc. N1 protected Magna. N2 protected ? Super is that his target will be protected from next three kill attmepts.

Gandalf: Eris. D1: Lynched Baby Spice. N1: Redirected Ice to AGM. (confirmed by Ice?) Motivated. Also redirected SD to AV (not confirmed I don't think) N2: Redirected LC to Axelrod.

MagnaofIllusion: Hephastus. N1 ? N2 Made an item and passed it to Ice. Turns out to be Lightning Bolt/Vig kill item.

Quadz: Demeter. N1: Used Hellfire ability. D2: Used treestump ability to mod-confirm self.

LC: Thanatos. Talk with players in limbo. N1: targeted baby Spice (claimed success) N2: targeted Snow Bunny. Failed. Apparently both redirected to Axelrod by Gandalf and RBed by Chesskid D3: Targeted Axelrod with Commune ability. Now we're just talking. So far he's been reporting what I'm saying pretty much accurately if not word for word.

Chesskid: Aphrodite. N1 RB ? N2: RB LordChronos. Super is that when he dies everyone he has previously RBed will be Rbed for the next 2 nights. Is taking his Cartman avatar a little too much to heart.

Dead People:

Baby Spice: Iris. Hider/Messager. Lynched by Gandalf.

Snow Bunny: Artemis. Used her Super N1 (could possibly have been the Motivator?) Slaughtered. (By Diddin according to AGar.)

Plum: Persephone. Turned to sand. No claims.

Diddin. Ares. Possibly killed Snow Bunny. Castrated.

Axelrod: Me. Zeus. Castrated. Ouch.

[LordChronos]

This work for you?

- everybody gets a chance at claiming Motivator - Meaning Agar\Gemini explicitly accepting or denying this
- LC claims QT peeps
- chesskid claims N1 target
- I see no reason why AGM should claim his Super target. But will claim N2 target.
- ooba full-claims
- Agar full-claims
- Gemini Rest of Role claim (Have had super claimed till now)
- SD claims JK N2
- Magna claims Super

Works for me.

[LordChronos]

Andy said that, with an exception namely in the case of Quadz, Super abilities are in general private actions and hence must be sent via a private message. Non-PM'd supers would have no effect.

Commune: Axelrod

Hmm ..

As I said, my role pm didn't say I needed to pm the mod to use my super. I did pm Charon a little after posting that though just to be safe.

[LordChronos]

LC = lynch for today. The whole using power ITT is just more icing on the cake.

And why precisely?

[LordChronos]

@MoI: Your response to my third quote is hilarious. I fucking LOVE being scum. In blackest night I chose Orange and Red as my colors(if you remember, I was in that game at first). Apathy for me is a towntell. Yes, I know it's WIFOM. Get over it. And once again, I WOULD BET CASH MONEY ON TWO SCUMTEAMS. The funny part is that the only good half of your case hinges on two scumteams. Plus its fairly obvious that you're defending LC FAR more than he deserves. chess+LC+MoI scumteam. Calling it now. Especially since MoI hasn't died yet.

And I strongly suspect that the motivator is already dead. Nobody has claimed motivation or motivator. They must have died N1. :/

Could have been Plum or S_B. They can probably both read me pretty well. Based on roles, I'd say Plum is probably more likely, but with the way roles are justified this game its hard to say.......

I'm guessing motivator was Plum also. But the idea that chess, MoI, and I could be scum together is just plain dumb. Also, I'd guess MoI hasn't died yet because he claimed hated townie.

By the way, I have no idea how you went from, "SD is SK, lynch him now!!!" during Day 1 to "Better not redirect the SD the SK, instead redirect someone I think might be scum cause they might make a kill" during Night 1. Makes no sense at all from a pro-town point of view.

@Nacho

Can you confirm/deny whether you are the motivator that motivated gandalf night 1?

Waiting for Axel to get back to me on what the last of his three one-shot powers is. Waiting on nacho's confirmation/denial of motivator to claim neighbors.

[LordChronos]

List of people I would vote for today:

1) LC
2) gandalf
3) chesskid
4) Nacho

In that order, but it's a pretty loose order.

Why would you vote for each of these people? In particular, why Nacho? I still feel AGar was town.

[LordChronos]

Sure. AGar/Nacho + Plum. Though obviously Plum's not around anymore.

[LordChronos]

Sure. AGar/Nacho + Plum. Though obviously Plum's not around anymore.

- LC, you were in a QT with Hades and Persephone

So I guess I was right about that .. Does it just say QT with Agar/Nacho + Plum or mention Hades/Persephone role names?

- Claim:

Hermes

- Passive power: Messenger; I enable all daytalk for QTs
- So yes, I expected at least one non-scum-team QT in the game (neighbors without alignment confirmed or masons)

Start of QT post had neither. Charon encouraged us to post under rolenames, and so we did until Night 2, when AGar and I revealed who we were to each other. He had actually thought I was MoI before that. Plum actually was really paranoid at the beginning and posted with a date as her name. If you want a little more proof that this is true, AGar posted at the start of the day saying that gandalf might have saved his neck.

I've been wondering about the daytalk.

[LordChronos]

@Ooba: Snow being a tracker is just something Dekes made up. It's not unreasonable as a role for Artemis, but still an assumption without any real basis.

Flavour of your passive? Does this apply to

all

daytalk, including Chronos' talking to the dead, scum QT and Gem's hydra talk?
What are your other powers and why don't you claim them (after all you called for a fullclaim)?

Messanger claim is kinda fishy... I have to check for Ooba's reaction on Iris' messanger claim...

@Chronos: What do you mean by you've been wondering about the daytalk?

I mean I've been wondering why we had it. The quick topic initial post said night talk is guaranteed, nothing about daytalk. Charon then told us we had daytalk at the start of day 1.

Also, his passive doesn't have anything to do with the daytalk on my normal. That's part of the power as stated in my role pm.

[LordChronos]

Unvote, Vote: LordChronos

You still haven't answered my question about why you are voting me as opposed to one of the other people on your list of people to lynch.

[LordChronos]

Gosh. The speed with which that brought LC to the game was eerie.

Has LC claimed?

Seriously. I posted Sunday. Yesterday was Memorial Day. Give it a break.

[LordChronos]

Okay, I was really tempted by MoI's argument about gandalf not forgetting the picture, so I actually did some research. This is the image he is talking about (it meets the description): http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv16 ... NZOMAN.jpg

Here's the thing:

If you search "eris goddess," "Eris, Greek God of Chaos and Discord," or "eris goddess of chaos," (all without quotes) it DOES NOT come up as a hit. If you search "eris greek goddess" or "eris greek goddess of discord," it DOES. However, it does not come up as the first hit, and there are plenty of clear, vivid images that come up before it.

I find it unlikely the scum were provided fakeclaim pictures, so I'm tempted to believe gandalf's claim. If he was fake claiming, I think it's more likely he would have either copy/pasted his full role name into the search engine or strongly abbreviated it, both of which return plenty of usable image results, but NOT the one he is describing. The only way he'd get the one he's talking about is if he searched for something oddly unique and then decided to scroll down and use a more obscure image ... something I don't see gandalf-scum bothering to do (especially when he didn't even have the thought to double-check and make sure he was getting his gender correct).

BUUUUUUT ... I'm still tempted, because there are other factors too and I don't want to put all my eggs in a basket reliant on gandalf's ability to use Google. I'll think about it. Right now, still leaning LC.

What MoI just said + answer my question already.

[LordChronos]

@Gemini

I haven't gotten the sense that MoI is attempting to come up with ways not to die. Certainly he should not be the lynch for today. What gave you that sense?

@Gandalf

I can think of a really simple explanation for how Axelrod died. I'll give you three guesses as to what it is, too.

News from the Dead:
Axel thinks MoI's point about gandalf's mistake in his claim is complete crap. He says he could have made the same mistake in gandalf's shoes. He also feels that since there has been a lot of duplication in powers, the conflict between his execute and gandalf's is not particularly scummy either. That being said, he thinks gandalf could still very well be scum, as he has played a horrible game if he was town but seems a little over the top sometimes. He also feels that ooba's insistence on Norse scumteam is indicative of a) ooba having info he's not sharing, b) ooba being scum, c)ooba being dumb. But he says ooba hasn't been playing dumb.

He hasn't told me his last one-shot yet.

---

Personally, I disagree with him about the claim. gandalf himself said he is well-versed in greek mythology.

And FTR, I spent 90% of my childhood reading Jason and the Argonauts and the like.

I haven't spent all that much time reading greek mythology, but even I know that Eris is a goddess and would never think to say otherwise.

[LordChronos]

AGM's slot is still useless.

@Gemini

Roman gods = Greek gods for the most part, so that's unlikely.

[LordChronos]

False. I am voting for scum and protecting town. What are YOU DOING?

And why are

you

voting for Chronos?

Looking at the claims and what we know Alma could well be scum.
Maybe he's really a scum doc. That he, contrary to AV and Moth, really used his super when said to have done so does not at all imply he's town. If he was scum about to die and if his super was really a protect he had all reason to use it, anyway.

WOOOOSH ... I'm voting for gandalf.

And like I have said REPEATEDLY: The scum are within: LC, Nacho, gandalf, and chesskid. ooba has kindly given us a road map of how we can analyze flips from this pool to get alignments on the other. So I do not get what you are whining about.

And as I have asked you repeatedly: Why are these people scum? You are blathering on about the scum being within these four people but never provide anything whatsoever to back it up.

@gandalf

Axel plays a game a year here, not total.

He also just brought up an interesting point re: botched fakeclaim argument. All three of the fakeclaims we have seen had the same gender as the actual roles of AV/moth/Dekes. AV claimed Athena and flipped Bastet, moth/ConSpiracy claimed Hestia and flipped Isis, and Dekes claimed Apollo and flipped Ra. That reduces the likelihood that gandalf is scum based on that argument. Doesn't lessen the validity of the other arguments against him though.

Also, Nacho has been just as silent in our QT as he has been in thread.

[LordChronos]

I'll quote the entire post for you because apparently you are too slow ..
A: He says he doesn't like mothrax
B: But invents reason for not voting mothrax and trying to convince others of a reason to wagon somebody else
If that doesn't show LC~mothrax links, I don't know what does ..

Note that in that post I was talking to quadz about why

he

was interested in an AGM lynch over a mothrax or Axel lynch. At that point I still supported a mothrax lynch or an Axelrod lynch over an AGM lynch.

[LordChronos]

@ooba

How was your super supposed to work if you targeted someone with multiple normal powers, such as Axel? Would you get all of them? Get to pick one? Get one randomly?

[LordChronos]

@ooba

Just to clarify this. Your passive has absolutely no effect on my normal or super. I just confirmed this with Charon. The daytalk with those is part of my power, cause otherwise it would be very limited.

[LordChronos]

@ooba

Just to clarify this. Your passive has absolutely no effect on my normal or super. I just confirmed this with Charon. The daytalk with those is part of my power, cause otherwise it would be very limited.

And your passive?

It does affect our neighborhood QT. My role pm only mentions nighttalk for the neighborhood, unlike for my normal and super.

[LordChronos]

Right now, I have a one-shot kill that isn't consumed if I shoot a non-Greek which

I pillaged from diddin's body.

Soooo. It only kills Greek, or you can it over and over so long as you only kill Greeks?

Also, this is Nacho claiming castrator.

diddin was castrated, so I don't see your logic there. Don't like that Nacho's win con is kill Zeus+Poseidon as well as non-Greeks instead of just kill non-Greeks.

[LordChronos]

I swear to god, if after LC hammers me you don't lynch him, I will punch through the nearest fucking wall. I suggest that nacho direct his kill in that direction, actually. Nacho needs to be left alone. I don't think he's lying. And his pm does in fact imply that poseidon is town. It is kind of strange that he stopped SD's lynch, but he probably figured that scum would kill a confirmed town jailkeeper pretty fast.

Erm, if he's telling the truth, he also has to kill that said implied town to win. I don't see how that helps town to leave him alone. And I won't be hammering you.

[LordChronos]

Hey, Iec, I compiled all claims into a table SHitload of work, it's not exactly like typing things in OO.o.calc or Excel... Anyway, if some one screws up and I die tonight, Chronos should maybe safe his normal to be able to contact me on D4.

I don't have to save it, I can contact you N4 if you die tonight. Like how I could target Snow_Bunny N2 after she died N1.

[LordChronos]

As Shadow said, I targeted gandalf last night. I was not blocked, the QT is created. No gandalf input yet.

[LordChronos]

Can you claim Item number one? (The one which you kept with yourself on N1) ..

I can claim all the items I already possess. I'm not going to.

1. I've already stated my N1 item was Meh. That's already more than I would like to have given out.
2. Scum doesn't need to have any clue what I forged. The more possibilities for me having dangerous powers the more worry they should have.

No more is being said until all the claims in this process today are in.

Who do you have strong town reads on in this game?

For someone who was so set on going through the claim list before commenting initially, ooba, you are doing a lot of commenting/questioning before we get through.

[LordChronos]

Who do you have strong town reads on in this game?

What about the phrase "No more is being said until after this claims process" doesn't make sense to you?

I have three strong Town reads. I'm not going to be elaborating until everything from the process YOU started finishes.

This has nothing to do with who you think is scum\town - rather I just wanted to know if you have any town reads at all ..

Then why ask him who he has town reads on rather than if he has town reads?

[LordChronos]

To do:

AGM claim target
chess claim target
Shadow claim target

[LordChronos]

News from the Dead: Axel is still MIA. gandalf is paranoid that I'm scum and so isn't talking much. He did say that he was right earlier to call for daykilling Gemini.

Personally I think he's wrong there, since if we had killed Gemini and he flipped SK we might have disregarded the result on Dekes. I can confirm what Shadow said about Nacho's claim of his super. And that he said he was jailkeeping Gemini.

Vote: Gemini

[LordChronos]

Axel has just refused once again to tell me his last one shot. He's having a hard time staying motivated, despite his pseudovoice.

Just had a thought about Nacho's claimed action last night. Need to check something.

[LordChronos]

@Nacho

Can you target players from either group of dead people with your graverob?

[LordChronos]

1. Isn't it pretty much confirmed that CK can roleblock given that LC's ability *didn't work* yesterday (i.e. rather than ONLY being redirected by gandalf)?

2. Not sure of the basis by which people are promoting whichever targets for my ability (I guess they're assuming I'm insane rather than paranoid?) BUT w/e.

Actually, my ability failing would have happened even without a roleblock from CK. My power doesn't work on live people, remember?

I like Nacho's first proposal more than his second if we are going to not lynch Gemini today. I don't get why we would have Gemini castrate him if chess flips town.

[LordChronos]

Unvote

Happy?

[LordChronos]

I agree with Shadow and MoI that it makes more sense to block confirmed scum chesskid than maybe scum AGM.

Oh yes, Axel wants to let you know that he doesn't fully trust me either still. Not like that wasn't obvious from his lack of giving out the last bit of his claim, but still. gandalf agrees chess is prob-scum. He's not sure about scumbuddies. Last thing he told me was he was still thinking possibly I was scum.

Of course, his LC/chess scum case was based on the premise that I killed Axelrod and chess claimed a block on me to save me.

@ooba

Axel was only kill-proof once.

[LordChronos]

I support either of Magna's plans. Not sure why ooba is so insistent on leaving the claimed SK alive.

Oh yes, my rolename color is black. Just for completeness sake.

[LordChronos]

And why lie?

[LordChronos]

We're also specialized...meaning we want men to die. Since the remaining scum have all claimed gods, then we're perfectly happy helping to kill them. Why is that a problem? Like we've said before, Quadz is confirmed female and confirmed town. If there were any miniscule chance we could win, it would hinge on him. It is therefore in our best interest to support the town cause. We can proxy a vote to alleviate that threat, and town can direct our kills, which, since scum are claimed males, then we have NO REASON not to cooperate. This is reasonable.

Couple things. 1) Even if you do also want the remaining scum to die, you also want to kill all the rest of us male town members. Ditching you halves the rate at which we die. 2) We have no reason to believe that you will kill who we tell you to.

[LordChronos]

Your lynch is inevitable anyway.

[LordChronos]

Especially if you do as you are suggesting and help us kill the remaining scum off faster.

[LordChronos]

Calling Thoth scribe of the dead is stretching things, to put it mildly.

Thoth became heavily associated with the arbitration of godly disputes, the arts of magic, the system of writing, the development of science, and the judgment of the dead.

[LordChronos]

Taking things out of context is so awesome. That quote is referring to the Judgment of the Dead where the dead person's heart was weighed on a scale against the feather of Ma'at.

[LordChronos]

Given that the association with Hermes is correct and the assertion that Thoth was the scribe of the dead is incorrect at least in that his major role in the pantheon was patron of knowledge and writing and such, I didn't have any comment. I have been suspicious of ooba for a little while now. Ask Shadow.

[LordChronos]

Nacho shoots chess
Magna roleblocks chess

WHAT IN THE FUCK

dont block me

I am capapble of blocking someone who isnt NACHO FOR THE 2 nights rb

Claim your super exactly
Don't fuck around and don't joke
If you're town and want a win - you'll do as I say

You do realize that if that is referring to his super, it'll be the third version of it he's claimed, right?

[LordChronos]

Only potential difficulty is if Alma used his super on you, SD. But that shouldn't be disclosed and should be left up to WIFOM, I'd think.

Otherwise, it looks good.

[LordChronos]

I hate this plan.

Just sayin'.

Of course you hate it. Duh.

[LordChronos]

We all ready for hammer?

[LordChronos]

Just posted in the Underworld about him, but I'll repeat it here. He's being a stubborn idiot about this. Despite the fact that I've relayed everything he wanted said nearly word for word he won't claim his flavor and last one shot.

I'm at my wits end as to how to get him to claim.

[LordChronos]

We are and I can.

Vote: Gemini

And did. Oh, and MoI, I don't know how often he checks the thread. Last time he commented was when Gemini got outed.

[LordChronos]

V/LA for the weekend.

[LordChronos]

I targeted Chronopie, as per the plan. My quicktopic is open.

Nothing from Axel over Night 4.

[LordChronos]

How can your QT be open when Chrono has moved to "dead by forgotten" in the meantime?! (This seems to be a mechanical problem - if a player dies, considering all actions are resolved at night end, the earliest point in time where you could contact him is when you already cannot conatct him any more because he turns "forgotten" - in short, please ask the mod for clarification on this matter!!!)

I think it has to do with dana handling the night action. dana initially sent me a pm asking for a link to one of my earlier QTs so he'd know what it was supposed to look like. Apparently Andrius has been doing it. So maybe he moved Chrono mistakenly. I'll ask anyway.

Do you remember if this happened on previous nights, when Andrius was doing it?

Chrono has not claimed anything yet. I just posted asking him to claim that last night action.

[LordChronos]

Chronopie targeted no one Night 3. She was afraid to give scum a double vote and didn't have any really strong townreads at the time.

[LordChronos]

I'm back, I'm back. Let me review the last two pages and I'll throw a post together in the next couple hours.

[LordChronos]

So, MoI: Your chesskid case has me leaning towards lynching chess today. Add to your list the fact that he's basically just trolling right now and not attempting to be useful at all and the chances of him being scum go up still further.

However, I agree with Shadow that Nacho must be blocked tonight if we lynch chess regardless of chess's flip. He showed last night that he is not going to cooperate even if he is town.

I'm not sure I follow you on the comparative downsides of each lynch though.

I think speculating on what the format of Iec's results means is pointless until we get a scum flip from someone he has a result on.

[LordChronos]

Sorry, missed that. It's up in my QT now. Axel is not responding to my requests from Night 4 though, so I don't know if he'll answer.

[LordChronos]

I find it interesting that you say: "As scum, my hands are fairly tied." instead of "If I was scum, my hands would be fairly tied."

[LordChronos]

Also, at long last I have the information from Axel!

3rd power: Maim - stops player from performing any actions until the start of the next day. Would be announced in thread. Mod referenced Resurgence Mafia D1 for what this looks like.
His govern would not end the day. Instead, a message from the mod would be posted saying the player could not be lynched that day. Mod referenced LotR mafia as an example.

[LordChronos]

Forgot to mention this, but I've been V/LA for family stuff yesterday and today and probably will be tomorrow as well. 4th of July weekend and all.

[LordChronos]

Vote: chesskid

No worries, Shadow.

[LordChronos]

Also blocked by chesskid.

[LordChronos]

Also not answering til AGM answers.

[LordChronos]

What Magna has claimed matches what I got exactly. The instant Day ended I received a PM from Charon with that flavor telling me I was roleblocked.

[LordChronos]

Targeted Nacho, succeeded. Tired now, will post tomorrow.

[LordChronos]

Gonna be busy the rest of today and part of tomorrow. Today's my birthday and my aunt is coming to visit. Gotta finish cleaning.

[LordChronos]

Vote: ooba

[LordChronos]

Good point, forgot that.

Vote: Iecerint

[LordChronos]

DeathCurse: LordChronos

Let's do this!

[LordChronos]

Our death curse is very much real.

[LordChronos]

If you say so.

[LordChronos]

Well done town, mostly. I came so close to winning that though. Aargh.

It sucked getting both of the investigations used on us, but that's what we get for lurking so much. I must say that the town was way overanalyzing and trying to outguess the mod with the whole Nacho-chess seduce thing.

Also, I think the scum team was a little underpowered, but not too much.

@Iec

I actually play much better as a vanilla townie than I do as a PR or scum. Go figure.

[LordChronos]

Any Egyptians have a problem with releasing our QT?

[LordChronos]

Also totally up for the sequel!

I really liked your modding, Andrius. Nice job.

[LordChronos]

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/HTUmX64JA4q8
Here's the mafia QT.