MagnaofIllusion wrote:@Everyone
– if you ascribe to Ooba’s two scum / Norse as second team theory I’d like you to consider Gandalf’s claim. His butchering of the God / Goddess in his claim fits nicely in with the possibility that he is Loki, the Norse Trickster God. It’s a nicely themed match to his claimed role.
You're getting REALLY desperate, aren't you?
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Chess wrote:less Q Q
more PEW PEW
Then move your vote to Gandalf.
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ooba wrote:Make Artemis a tracker and make Ra a scum watcher with an apoolo fakeclaim. Not based on breadcrumbs; just seems a elegant addition to the setup.
Meh. I’m not going to make assumptions based on what I think is an elegent set-up addition. You may be correct. You may be dead wrong (as you have been with some of your other speculations … Dekes for example). It’s not effective Town play to based reads on conjecture.
Another HUGE contradiction........ You reject this, but assume that all fakeclaims align with the real role based on a sample size of 1.......
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Shadow wrote:@MoI: But if Gandalf had the picture in his fake PM he'd also stared at it and not forgotten that is is a goddess.... Unless he just carelessly copypasted the discription from his real role PM - which then would obviously not be Eris...
Don’t outthink the room trying to figure out Gandalf’s play.
Ask yourself this –
Would Town Gandalf with the Role PM he is claiming make the mistakes in his claims that he did? If you can't reasonably see it then the remainig option is he isn't Town. In this case his inadventant 'typo' regarding Eris as God isn't something I can see from Town.
You don't think it's possible that I looked at my role PM, then looked back, and in trying to paraphrase, I accidentally forget four fucking letters?
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Gandalf wrote:I don't thinly I was a god. I know too much about Greek myth to do that. I simply forgot the des at the end.
Let me get this straight. You always thought you were a Goddess. You just inadvertently forgot to typo –dess when making your claim. And this accidental typo just happens to cause the meaning of your posted Claim look exactly like a busted fake-claim.
No, not buying it.
No, it wasn't a typo. It was just a fuckup.
Gandalf wrote:And I dint redirect SD to agar. I redirected him to AV.
You are correct, you did claim to redirect him to AV. But you’ve managed to dodge the question at hand.
Why is it believable that SD as Serial Killer ‘slipped your mind’ when you had the full extent of Night to make your initial selection (redirecting Iec to AGM) but when you are faced with a snap decision due to the PM by Charon you suddenly remember “Hey, I need to redirect SD”?
Because even though I still forgot that I thought he was an SK, he was a huge suspect of mine(although still ignored by most everyone else, so he still fit the scummy but largely ignored bill).
And why was AV your choice for your second target? Here’s the list of your Day 1 posts that question / respond to / mention AV at all –
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Yeah that’s right … none.
I didn't think AGM was scum either(my first redirection, if you remember). My vigging philosophy, especially N1(I was treating my redirect like a vig) is to kill people who are hard to read and aren't really contributing.
Gandalf wrote:Nice caps lock though. And that isn't useless selfmeta. That's me correcting you blatantly lying when you have personal experience that tells you I prefer being scum.
Um Whut? Your choice selections in Blackest Night (which I didn’t even remember you were in since you flaked / replaced IN THE SIGN-UP THREAD) means you enjoy being scum? That's hardly Meta evidence seing as you DIDN'T EVEN PLAY THE GAME.
No, but my color choices remained for my replacement(Sensfan). And you were also in A Comedy of Grins(marathon, but still), where I chose third party and claimed right at the beginning because I figured everyone knew I would pick either TP or scum, so I needed to at least try and establish that I wasn't harmful. Not to mention I've mentioned it several times ingame and postgame in games I've been in with you.
Gandalf wrote:And I'm glad that you have a case that doesn't hinge on two scumteams....... did you forget to post that one in the thread?
See, here I know you aren’t paying attention. I’ve been clearly stating since Ooba started the “Two Teams” talk that I don’t know whether there are multiple scum teams or just one. Anyone reading the thread would know this.
Your post above is just looking for anything you think you can claim is scummy so as to wiggle out of the noose that is waiting for you today.
No, your case really does look like a piece of garbage once you take out the parts that assume there are two scumteams. And contradictions aren't reaching. You called me scum for assuming there were two scumteams and then made a case THAT ENTIRELY DEPENDED ON TWO SCUMTEAMS. HOW IS THAT NOT FUCKING SCUMMY. ANd yes, I'm aware that you've been saying that you don't know how many scumteams there are. WHICH MAKES IT EVEN WEIRDR THAT YOU MADE A CASE THAT HINGES ON THAT ASSUMPTION.
Gandalf wrote:And yes, I brought up that you haven't died yet. You haven't. And that is definitely weird. I brought it up just now because up until now I hadn't taken a close look at you.
How do you know I wasn’t the target of the ‘missing’ kill last night? Hmmmm? We haven't had to have protection claims as of yet.
You very well could have. I don't see AGM protecting you though. That said, I keep having to remind myself that it's only D3. It feels like later in the game for some reason. This point probably isn't valid.
And answer me this – if I was scum with Chesskid and LC why would I hand a Daykill to Iec? Hmmmm?
Most likely, you can only give it to players not on your scumteam. Most scum inventors have that restriction(see Ythill's Gypsy Mafia or whatever, where the exact same thing happened, and then everybody treated Troll like confirmed town for it and they lost).
