DEFCON Mafia 3.0 - Over, American Victory!

[inHimshallibe]

confirm

:nocapstowntell:

[inHimshallibe]

@MOD

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Would either Fate or Reck posting in thread satisfy the Defcon 1 requirements (similar to Vi posting in place of the likely yet to be activated Vi/CSL Hydra)?

loltheyscum

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VOTE TOTAL WAR

These colors don't run.

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Confirming in the sense that I've read my role PM, but I still haven't decided whether or not to vote total warfare yet. Big analysis post coming tomorrow when I'm more lucid. I'm trying to see if there's a way to completely break this game, but the terrorist role throws a wrench into things.

did this ever happen.

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gorilla still theorizing: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p3116034
vi response: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p3116059
gamma response: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p3116099


Vi's response is curiously different. Gamma's is satisfyingly town. Vi = scum 1? Fate agrees, I must be right!

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Noooooope.

scum 2 then.

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hate the herpderp LYNCHTRADES? with Fate.

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important thing is the intent but never doing such imo. into the nukepot.

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Lld can die for their reads being a detriment to town.

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In other words, I called you scummy, so I can die?

Awesome. Explain reading both Mina and I as scum. Cause I don't think you can be town and in good faith make that connection.

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Mina is a "I promised content and haven't given any" thing. Removable upon the time she actually, you k ow, provides the promised content.

You are scum for your misrepresentation of Vi, calling Gamma town, and then turning around and calling him scum based off something ridiculous. Vi and Gamma ARE suspicious, but not for the reasons you give. Which makes me go "hmmmm"

I think you misinterpreted my response to gamma on this page which was calling mina scum, not gamma. Skimmah.

And seriously, I misrepped Vi. What is this.

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Vi, let's make amends. Lld is scum

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, yeah?

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So LLD basically just revved up her car and drove 60mph into deathbomb county

This is why I play this game.


INTO OVERDRIVE, LLD.

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Sending in this list.

Submarine
NUKE
NUKE
NUKE
NUKE
NUKE
etc. [/Vi]

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Pooky where da scum at?

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Internet Stranger

replaces

Zhero.

Thanks!

:rubshandstogether:

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Low%

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Magua are we scum?

You're not in my top three choices to lynch, but SDC-scum is certainly a possibility I haven't discounted. You play hyper-aggressive regardless of alignment.

This post.

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How did I miss that post of RC's with the lists and such. Those reads are terrible. I'm a good lynch? ReckFate is a BETTER lynch?

:puke:

Into the Microwave of Bad Reads with LLD.

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So long as you promise good old-fashioned American Huggle Nukes, you know where I be.

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scumPooky plays for survival

townPooky plays for glory

tru story

Do we have to go over self-meta again?

Every game?

If you know it, it can be faked.

If Pooky says he is good, he is good.

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You gonna call Vi out on that but I get a free pass considering I wanted Zhero dead from the getout?

I can't even formulate right the not-quite-irony of a list of names in a post complaining about lists.

To be fair, he didn't list the whole playerlist, which is what he was complaining about.

Also, Spy, were you using the replace-out as a reason to suspect Zhero/IS? 'Cause that's the main reasoning that I get from IS's post.

Gamma is towntowntowntowntown.

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Actually, ooba makes some sense in that SpyreX COULD be scum with IS.

But I think IS is just getting a bad rap so.

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People spreading this Hez = 100% antitown misinformation need to a) eat a nuke or b) stop lapping up what scum are feeding you.

Yes, Hez was pointing a whole lot of fingers, and being all ranty. Maybe it was just me but I really never thought he'd actually pull the trigger when we reached DEFCON 1. I can understand you saying Hez is scum because of it, but just wanting to nuke him because you think those things make him 100% antitown is Pants-On-Head logic.

Personally, Hez can eat a nuke, but that's because I don't read him as town, not for cheapass scumhiding reasons.

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Maybe it was just me

Now you understand.

You may be right and I'm letting history get in the way. I still didn't see it happening.

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actually, screw it, i'm going to follow my heart here - this is a scummy post

Please articulate why dana using American rhetoric in his posts is scummy but others doing so (IS, Pooky) doing so don’t get a peep of suspicion from you.

I find it interesting that you jump to the American rhetoric as gorilla's main reason for suspicion. I would tend to think of dropping the line "4 pro-town players..." and not naming them is the scummier bit.

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I find it interesting that you jump to the American rhetoric as gorilla's main reason for suspicion. I would tend to think of dropping the line "4 pro-town players..." and not naming them is the scummier bit.

Well, you'd have to be pretty thick not to see that the 4 Pro-Town players dana was talking about were the four previous Hez voters.

So the American rhetoric is the only other element left.

Agreed that it's pretty obvious who the 4 were. I'd still wager it's more in the presentation/wording of the "4 players" bit than the rhetoric, but I suppose gorilla's the only one that can answer that.

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vote: Lady Lambdadelta

Is there a reason I should not do this? I mean, I'll probably generously offer up an L-1 vote to anyone I don't consider town *coughAVOXcough* and let SpyreX have honors, but I seem to recall some listing LLD as town.

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So, tell me RC.

You think AurorusVox is scum but needs a competitor wagon? OH NO, GET BACK ON THAT AVTRAIN CHOOCHOO.

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^5 MoI

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Love how all that is based on nothing but logic and doesn't try to get people to do what you want by simply telling them to do it. [/sarcasm]

Well, yeah, bro, because I'm town.

I'm thinking in the long term. I'm thinking, "How will people find the third/fourth scum on D4/5?"

The best way to do this would be to force all players to commit their votes to logical, popular wagons. This doesn't mean I think other players shouldn't try to get their wagons more popular, but it just so happens that the two people I want to see dead the most are the first and third most popular vote getters. You better believe I'm going to be on my soapbox.

Euch. Town mindset is to kill one and then just kill the other. You're not contributing anything by pushing the secondmost popular wagon if you think they're both scum.

vote: RedCoyote

Offer's still on the table to L-1 most wagons.

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If one was scum and one was Town there's a purpose to dueling wagons.

I don't see a point if both are scum.

As much as I appreciate your deference to my judgment, as crazy as it sounds, sometimes even I cannot predict scum perfectly.

Although I do think they are both scum, I'm realistic enough to think that that would, statistically speaking, be extremely improbable.

That being said, even if it were the case, wagonning two scum on the first day sounds like a good problem to have.

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So RC, you want me to give up my intuition, to give up my ingenuity, give up my freedoms and follow the crowd of lemmings on their way to lynch AV? And you say that youre not a Eurotrash Socialist scumbag?

If you honestly think you can get a Vi wagon moving, then have at it. I'm just trying to save you some time.

And why would I advocate a wagon on a person I thought was town anyways?

At the bold and the latter quote.

I take more issue with you leaving the AV train to pursue a "competitor wagon" when you still think AV is scum.

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So given you've completely backed away from your stance not an hour ago and now don't think both are scum

Uh, no. I do. I also know I will not predict the entire game correctly. Why am I not allowed to use that piece of knowledge in my scumhunting?

Given the fact that I think both dana and AV have a good chance at being scum, then it's more likely that I'm right about one of those predictions than it is if I advocated, say, Hez, who I do not consider to have a greater chance at being scum (over dana or AV).

But this didn't require an unvote of AV to prove this.

Too many excuses.

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Vi, gimme one on Faraday/Equinox.

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I CAN'T WAIT TO TAKE OFF THIS SISSIFIED MONOCLE AND MUSTACHE.

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Wellll when SDC is yelling for your blood and he's town as all getout I get paranoid and want to quell those feelings and watching you in your element does it.

Actually ML or Pooky would be REALLY interesting for me to see.

ML? MAGISTER. LUDI? SPY YOU KNOW BETTA JUST NUKE THAT BOI.

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Oh, in that case you're justified.

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lld isn't dead yet? lolkay.

:goodposting:

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vote lld

MORE VOTES AND WE KILL HER.

I have to say, this doesn't particularly inspire a lot of faith, if any.

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Well, then Equinox comes and posts up ins. Re: RC saying he could be wrong - definitely agree that is not the scum part of this equation. It is that he claims that while not providing a reasonable justification for bumping AV down/moving dana up than "Competing wagons are good."

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vote: AurorusVox

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So Gamma's post reads as "I know AV isn't scum but let's just mislynch him anyway"

Are you

trying

to get scum to their kill quicker and lower town's numbers, GG? Cos that's what it looks like there.

This actually reads like you're the Terrorist.

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Forgot this -

@Magister Ludi -

if you hold a Nuke do you still intend to use it on DEFCON 1 on the player with the least amount of posts at Day's start?

(Regfan)

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Sociopath is killing off people who can read him and are threats

We're next

I r sad

Vote: AV

So Sociopath is confirmed scum to you.

Who is killing those who can read him.

And you are next.

Yet you are voting on the dominant bandwagon instead of trying to lynch Sociopath and save your "True Blue American" self from exploding trucks.

I'll bite.

UNVOTE: AV
VOTE: Sociopath

Come on Fate / Reck .. let's actually hang the person you think is the terrorist. Don't keep him alive because you like him.

I don't get this, especially since you agreed with me about why RC was scum.

Explain to me why you're voting SP here?

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I don't get this, especially since you agreed with me about why RC was scum.

Explain to me why you're voting SP here?

I vote Socio for two reasons here.

1. He’s non-scum hunting, active lurking scum. That should be obv from his ISO.
2. More importantly I wanted to test SDC’s reaction to be asking to wagon Socio for future possible relational tells. Their response was whelming.

What does agreeing with you on RC have anything to do with Socio? Can you elaborate please?

Doesn't have to do with SocioPath, it has to do with your choice of actions, those mainly being what I was accusing RC of yesterday.

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those gorilla votes are bad and you three should feel bad.

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Well, um personally I'd like to nuke about 14 or so, leaving about 9 alive...

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Hez is just scared because he knows if people start mass nuking he's going down and his scumbuddies can't save him.

inHim, are the 9 people you want to live the 9 people on my list? :p

Well, one of them is me. So no.

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But I like the Swiss. ._.


Copy that, AV. I hope you're Eurotrash.

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Katsuki-confirmed, bitches.

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Oh, Socio, I'm sorry it had to come down to this. Is it OK if I chuckle at the irony when you claim Battleship, even though you nailed my ass to the wall eleventy times better than MoI did to you?

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Well, I still hold reservation you could be American and this is a reckless MoI gambit. The reversal of fate would be humorous, though.

I agree with you about Mina, by the by, so if you flip town I might just crate her.

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meh fuck it

i gotta get IS's back

nuke Gammagooey

yo inhim, nuke MoI for me if Socio flips town

inHim got yo back.

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Heh.

Hee... ha... ho ho...

Socio, tell me what I need to know about FateReck.

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LLD is also scum that cracked the code imo.

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HOLY SHIT ITS LIKE CLOCKWORK.
THERES FATE.
OH MAN.

We have a phrase on another site we like to use. It goes like this:

Socio reading me wrong?

Lol Let him eat his nuke.

Reck I need the pass again, ill catch up on the thread later tonight

WELL LOOK AT THE TIMING OF THIS MOTHERFUCKER.

WLATTOTMF

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I'm agreeing with the school of thought that Kats didn't aircraft Sociopath. Leaving only Gamma to possibly do that.

Which means Toog's been working his counter-intelligence.

Nuke: Toogeloo

Holy shite you need to eat a nuke.

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Christ, we've outed the whole team, haven't we. They're flailing like babes grasping for their mother's teat.


THEY WILL NOT FIND MILK, ONLY NUCLEAR DEATH.

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inHim has been consistently WRONG this whole game.

He's still wrong now~

I'm not surprised. We all have our low points.

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Gamma is certified 100% European scum. Why do I need to wait?

@=g3,8d\&fbb=-q/hk%fg


You need to wait BECAUSE GAMMAGOOEY

MIGHT

BE TELLING THE GODDAMNED TRUTH.

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If he is not, I will apologize, and then probably nuke you into the sunset anyway.

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DAT RULESET.

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@Toast: may have been a bit hasty with that, as hinduragi explained the codecracking a bit more.

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I didn't want to say it because of the shit Socio was pointing out about revealing my N2 target but I've got role info that makes Gamma look like a piece of shit lying Euro trashbag. I am pretty sure I got roleblocked last night. I got a message saying the target has not been received. Good enough for you? UNLESS SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER AN EXPLANATION TO WHY MY SECOND INHIM PROTECTION FAILED,(which, trust me, I spent a while trying to figure out after what Gamma said to make sure inHim wasn't anything like Air Base and I wasn't about to fuck us up by misreading into a PM or anything) continue on with EuroGamma-nuking

IHSIB should claim if he has the Airbase or not. Assuming that IHSIB doesn't claim Airbase, this is 100% correct -- Magna should abort the nuke on Sociopath and Gamma should die in a fire.

I believe the first protect working and the second not is proof enough, no?

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(Equinox)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, FATE.

If you bus me you lose one free nuke I only need to buy one more day

If this message isn't faked and gorilla didn't post them a day late or something, we have a few options for this based on activity on Day 2. According to the voting spreadsheet for that day, we had votes fall on the following people:

AurorusVox

, danakillsu, gorilla, HezLucky, Internet Stranger, MagnaofIllusion, Revenge of Wei, Screaming Death Clan, SocioPath, Swift Justice

Of those people, danakillsu, Internet Stranger, MagnaofIllusion, Revenge of Wei, and SocioPath are confirmed to have nukes. gorilla has claimed his ability and thus does not have a nuke. HezLucky, Screaming Death Clan, and Swift Justice have, to my knowledge, claimed nukes but have not yet launched them.

Based on the amount of votes, gorilla and HezLucky stand out as having the most votes; however, Revenge of Wei was also falling under pressure if my memory isn't being biased by my rampant nationalism or something. The voters are listed below:

HezLucky (3) -

AurorusVox

, danakillsu, Gammagooey
gorilla (8) -

AurorusVox

, Hinduragi, Lady Lambdadelta, Magister Ludi, MagnaofIllusion, Regfan, Swift Justice, Toogeloo
Revenge of Wei (3) - Internet Stranger, Regfan, Swift Justice

To note, the HezLucky wagon fizzled out and died in favor of other targets with the exception of danakillsu, who stuck to his guns. gorilla's wagon died when he claimed Eavesdrop, and so far I do not see a reason to disbelieve him. The best candidate here is most likely Revenge of Wei, who has done next to nothing except nuke us as their dying vengeance, and the "I only need to buy one more day" part seems to apply to them the most. I recall seeing people call Revenge of Wei scum but not vote them, so I'm going to hop about the thread and see what basis I have for that line of thought.

Internet Stranger isn't one to use the terminology 'bus' imo.

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LOL GAMMA WHAT KIND OF FAILSCUM TEAM DO YOU HAVE THAT THOUGHT FAKECLAIMING AS AC WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA?

TROLOLOLLLLLLL

no offense, but it kind of reminds me of some of your failed trickses >_>

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the idea that internet stranger would bother figuring out how to use a code is laughable

real american heroes dont use fancy schmancy codes.

rofl

[inHimshallibe]

Pooky sounds bitter. :(

[inHimshallibe]

the idea that internet stranger would bother figuring out how to use a code is laughable

real american heroes dont use fancy schmancy codes.

rofl

I dont know what the fuck you all are talking about.

My response wasn't code. It was an acronym, meaning "rolling on floor laughing." Typing "rofl" is a convenient way of expressing this sentiment.

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If you're using time to measure active lurking, you're doing it wrong.

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lol at the thought of RoWei recalling their nuke.

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Once we get some glowing corpses I'll be here, tally book in hand. I'm too lazy to do hypotheticals.

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Noooooope.

scum 2 then.

Clearing Mina at the moment.

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Awful.

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oh boy. LOL?

Who are you nuking, I will let you have your choice.

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HezLucky
Lady Lambdadelta
Magister Ludi
MagnaofIllusion
Mina
Screaming Death Clan (Fate & xRECKONERx hydra)
ToastyToast

I don't think we have the firepower to kill all of deez Today.

If you're on that list, make your peace.

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Whoops, Regfan too.

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WHAT THE FUCK INHIM, MINA'S TOWN.

oh that's right, Gamma cleared her.

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Sure, Toasty's on there. I have enough of my townreads alive imo.


Me, Pooky, IS final 3 :inthebank:

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Sorry, but I will get to live to D4 imo.

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meh fuck it

i gotta get IS's back

nuke Gammagooey

yo inhim, nuke MoI for me if Socio flips town

Nuke MagnaofIllusion

[inHimshallibe]

That feels glorious.

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inhim's prob town, or at least if he's scum not with magna I'd have left magna alive and let someone else nuke him tomorrow, I think. either way nuking magna's a bad nuke for scuminhim there I think.

I promised Pooky.

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Robs the fun tbqh.

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I love you, IS.

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Opinion time:

gorilla
Hinduragi
inHimshallibe
Internet Stranger
Mina
PookyTheMagicalBear
ToastyToast
Toogeloo

Does any Euroscum exist in the above?

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Maaaaaaaaaybe Toog was all "lolgambitz" with Counter-Intelligence. If SDC flip scum, I may have to revisit this, based on some earlier ZWIFOMZ. gorilla _possibly_ as well.



To the code crackers - do gorilla's leaks and the publicly released codes share similarities, or is it gibberish?

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LMFAO HEZFENSIVE POSITION

BON VOYAGE GAMMA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4576ymdmemQ&feature=fvst

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FATE. I AM LEARNING.

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for now I will stick to just allowing myself to be read by everyone else, and nailing that one scum no one else sees.

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Not really helpful in this particular instance...

[inHimshallibe]

(ps if ludi is scum then fate is basically confirmed town via hydraslip early in thread)

Elaborate.

What does this matter.

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for now I will stick to just allowing myself to be read by everyone else, and nailing that one scum no one else sees.

My read on you is leaning scum at this point. Clearly, you're failing at your job.

Mina mina mina...

Reading inHim is easy, here's a chart:

is inHim posting and making relevant, current observations? -- yes -- inHim is town
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no
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you probably ought to kill him

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(ps if ludi is scum then fate is basically confirmed town via hydraslip early in thread)

Elaborate.

What does this matter.

It's this weird thing town does. They try to identify who the other town are. And then maybe not kill that person. So they're usually interested when people start throwing around "If X then Y is confirmed town."

I know. Crazy, right?

We have a list that is generally accepted, that will be enacted upon, and will bring us to victory. Poking holes in the plan is now the priority, not worrying about whether Air Base Fate, who agreed to die before the end, is conftown.

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for now I will stick to just allowing myself to be read by everyone else, and nailing that one scum no one else sees.

My read on you is leaning scum at this point. Clearly, you're failing at your job.

Mina mina mina...

Reading inHim is easy, here's a chart:

is inHim posting and making relevant, current observations? -- yes -- inHim is town
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¦
no
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you probably ought to kill him

HMM HAVE YOU BEING DOING THAT YOU CHEEKY FUCK?

I prefer irony, but I think I picked things up a bit, all things considered.

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We have a list that is generally accepted, that will be enacted upon, and will bring us to victory. Poking holes in the plan is now the priority, not worrying about whether Air Base Fate, who agreed to die before the end, is conftown.

You simply can't be serious.

Could be useful in determining what to do with gorilla, which I think solidified himself as a townlock.

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Pooky, are you an American?

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Could be useful in determining what to do with gorilla, which I think solidified himself as a townlock.

Humor me and assume with me that Regfan is scum. That leaves two scum remaining. Who do you think they are?

They exist outside of

Myself
IS
gorilla
Mina
Hinduragi
Pooky

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inHim was looking better earlier, actually. That's why I protected him.

I appreciate it, I do.

[inHimshallibe]

Nixon will be in full glory Day 4.

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Still, inHim, your play fell through. You were almost leading town D1 and now it's the occasional one liner comment. What happened? >_>

laziness?

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I guess I don't see that much difference, or something.

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Mina is a "I promised content and haven't given any" thing. Removable upon the time she actually, you k ow, provides the promised content.

You are scum for your misrepresentation of Vi, calling Gamma town, and then turning around and calling him scum based off something ridiculous. Vi and Gamma ARE suspicious, but not for the reasons you give. Which makes me go "hmmmm"

I think you misinterpreted my response to gamma on this page which was calling mina scum, not gamma. Skimmah.

And seriously, I misrepped Vi. What is this.

Iso'd myself, and LLD needs to die.

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Gamma cleared Mina? I just went with Faraday and now Mina's posting makes me read her as town too so she's fine as is.

Yeah, beginning of the game, I was obv crushing on Gamma as town and asking about Mina and posting her Plan For Success In This Game, and he was leading me along trying to view her negatively, which I did at the time.

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Meh, that's the kind of subtle bad comment one scumbuddy might say about.

Finish this quote, and then let me impart some of my wisdom, which you may take with a grain of salt.

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inHim, can I get an answer to my question about Sociopath's read on me?

What happened is that I wasn't convinced you were superobvtown, but then stuff like RoWei claiming scum and nuking Swift Justice, Gammagooey getting caught in a roleblocking lie, and me doing a little bit of research made all that invalid.

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I started reading that paragraph and thought it was gonna be a scumclaim.

Can nebulous pink effects wear a party hat?

Sure Hindu. I'd love to try.

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I started reading that paragraph and thought it was gonna be a scumclaim, and then realized it was anyways.

Can nebulous pink effects wear a party hat?

Sure Hindu. I'd love to try.

Goddammit, fixed. Stupid Submit button.

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BTW we're lynching someone claiming not to have a nuke.

[inHimshallibe]

Well, actually, lynching Fallout Shelter seems best today.


That's Ludi, right?

[inHimshallibe]

I'll be surprised if ML flips scum though.

The only viable lynch atm.

[inHimshallibe]

now I have two reasons to vote Magister Ludi.

[inHimshallibe]

Regfan to Magua
Swift Justice to Regfan


Let's see what the dust brings us and go from there.

I would like to see Lady Lambdadelta, Magister Ludi, and SDC all dead before we head into the next Day.

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Scum better kill me tonight because I'm nuking Mina tomorrow. She is Eurotrash scum.

Then again, if anyone else questions my American heritage, I'm going to nuke them first.

Pooky IS inHim final 3.

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AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL

Mina nuke SDC.

Toasty hush. Mina will be dead before that time, IS is clipping her wings.

[inHimshallibe]

Either is fine. You have sealed your death if Fate is European.

[inHimshallibe]

Call your shot before you die.

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No, because I don't trust you.

Then the feelings mutual. Glad we had this talk.

hey look the both of you will be craters by the end of tomorrow

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Whoever was suggesting sdc in the finals needs to die. Absolutely too much shit going on there to be allowed to live.

This Mina push is fascinating, but I am on vaca and don't have the patience to do anything but catch up.

[inHimshallibe]

^^scumclaim, thanks.

[inHimshallibe]

Using your nuke strategically would result in SDC death.

[inHimshallibe]

Or dana.

[inHimshallibe]

It isn't because you're worse than dana, you're not. You vowed to eat one before we got to endgame.

BTW FULL METAL NIXON IS BACK.

[inHimshallibe]

Unvote; Vote: ML

Trying to direct Mina's nuke is pretty god damn scumtastic.

So hey, are you like, uh... scum?

No. Are you?

Further, Mina is pretty god damn town (I STILL don't get why you think she's scum).

Her nuke shouldn't be dictated by anyone, just like a vig shot shouldn't be dictated by anyone. It's anti-town.

Hypothetical Question: If you are scum, who's your buddy?

ollzmao



Mina I hope you've nuked LLD by the time I catch up here.

[inHimshallibe]

tho apparently gamma made some post that confirmed inhim town earlier

:shrug:

:?:

[inHimshallibe]

Why the fuck are neither of you clowns commenting on the scummiest thing in the game.

LLD, when faced with death, has begged and pleaded to be allowed to live another fuckin day, and to nuke another nuke.

She "promises" she'll nuke the fail safe.

Even though she thinks said fail safe is town, and she would "know" she is town.

Yet she is begging to live.

BEGGING TO LIVE LIKE A EUROSCUMFUCKINGBAG

BUT ALL YOU HURR DURRS CNA DO IS HURR DURR ABOUT SEMANTICS THAT NO ONE FUCKIN CARES ABOUT


WHILE SCUM SPEWS BULLSHIT IN OUR MIDST

This.

LLD has opposed any push against her and then when a nuke is shoved in front of her face she'll cheerfully suicide onto Hez? (according to Fate, a townread no less?)

[inHimshallibe]

Good, Nixon's back.

Everyone.

Scumdars out.

Not getting any pings? Mine isn't either.

Towndars out.

You got pinged by that post above me? Same.

Next suspect please.

My reads haven't been like superstellar or anything, but if LLD turns up scum, I'll have at least shown suspicion on 2 or 3 of the 5. The nuke on MoI was a promise to Pooky, and I'd probably nuke myself if he asked me to do so.

[inHimshallibe]

... and LLD never agreed to accelerate the nuke. Just posts about the lack of scanner.


lol

[inHimshallibe]

Oh Fate... I've been on LLD's case the whole game.

[inHimshallibe]

... and LLD never agreed to accelerate the nuke. Just posts about the lack of scanner.


lol

I'd rather not concede to being nuked, thank you.

But of course, as town I would accelerate a nuke.

What? No "inHim you're still wrong" backlash? Throwing the towel in?


Fate, can you give me a laugh that I can use in situations like this?

[inHimshallibe]

BWHWHAHHAHAHAHEAHEHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[inHimshallibe]

(your budd'y's Pooky though, I know that much, I just need your help convincing OTHER people of as much)

Pooky, say it ain't so. :(

[inHimshallibe]

(your budd'y's Pooky though, I know that much, I just need your help convincing OTHER people of as much)

Pooky, say it ain't so. :(

There's always one "obvtown" last scumbuddy.

Come on now Inhim, how easy did you think this would be?

All Pooky has to say are three simple words. He hasn't yet. There is still time for hope.

[inHimshallibe]

*sigh*

Not encouraging IS to nuke you. He has already stated his intention. There is no talking the man off of his confidence, and besides it'd be one HELL of a better story if he turned out to be right.

The Hindu speculation is pretty meh. He has pushed away and away from Fate's death after Fate has agreed to die several times. Given that Fate got screwed over in DEFCON 2.0 because of Battleship protection (lolz) I see no reason to think scum in good position (like Hindu is) might hold onto protecting a scum until outed.

[inHimshallibe]

gorilla>Hey. Got any leaks lately?



@Mina: currently? no. I put it very low, as LLD is OBGSing (Outed Bad Guy Shticking) at the moment.

[inHimshallibe]

inHim, do you think that Hindu and Fate are a scum team?

IF I WAS SCUM WITH FATE, DO YOU KNOW WHAT KIND OF GAMBITS YOU'D BE SEEING RIGHT NOW? LOLL

lol this.

[inHimshallibe]

Ok, Fate, you've won my heart. Point my nuke for me tomorrow.

[inHimshallibe]

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

[inHimshallibe]

Nukecelerate right fucking now if you're Town.

[inHimshallibe]

HINDU

INHIM HAS JOINED MY SIDE

IT IS NOW YOUR TURN

YOUR GLORIOUS TURN

IT'S TIME FOR A MOTHERFUCKING PARTY

[inHimshallibe]

I think I've been pretty transparent about at least the first two:
SCUM:
HezLucky
Hinduragi
Gamma? (He's been buddying me pretty hard, which would seem to be a mafia tactic. Not sure about this one since it's a bit self-meta etc.)

NULL:
Everyone else except....

TOWN:
RevengeoftheWei
Swift Justice

You guys KILLED two of my townreads, so...yeah.

dana's going to the nukepot, right.

Spent a lot of time bickering with Vi at the beginning, no mention of town back then, but the slot is now a townread.

[inHimshallibe]

also lol. "not sure about this one" re: GG.

vote: dana

Going the distance.

[inHimshallibe]

Watcj and learn as you vote DANA?
LOL

Dana is not the last scum.

Not in a million fucking years.

You arrogant derp

Is he that bad? ._.

[inHimshallibe]

Otherwise, all this mass speculation is garbage. Every person that made a list of tells are the most likely to be Eurotrash Scum. Once DEFCON 3 hits, you will be learning a lesson in American Pride and Justice. The Fist of pure American Righteousness will rain down like the Rains of Victory on the day that Patriotic Americans won their Independence from the wrongful socialist European Hegemony. We have done it once, we can do it again.

Im coming for you European Scum during DEFCON 3, count on it.

As promised, here are the bastard Eurotrash scum that are attempting to manipulate the game early on by subliminally putting out these bullshit lists of scum/town without any useful information. This is no different than Socialist listing and establishing a class system. I said that anyone trying to pull this Anti-American stunt was scum. Declaring one scum falls in line with the true American way. Giving reads on some people is American. Declaring whole lists of town/scum seemingly at random this early on is Socialist and scummy.

Here are the people putting out lists starting on DEFCON 4 (In Order):

1) SDC: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 7#p3119277
2) SDC: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 2#p3119282
3) Ooba: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 8#p3119408
4) Vi: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 9#p3119689
5) Lambda: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p3119765
6) Ooba: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 0#p3120190
7) Spyrex: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 2#p3121742
8) SDC: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p3121785
9) Regfan: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p3121965
10) RC: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 2#p3125072

DEFCON 3

11) Regfan: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 8#p3129888
12) Gammgooey: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p3130655


None of these people are Nostrafuckingdamus. They are European scumbags trying to find a way to poison the town mind with utter nonsense. SDC tried it three times, Regfan 1.5, the others are just opportunists. You will find your scum within these names. Obviously not all of them are European scum that threaten my American way of life, but this where you will find at least one, if not two of these Eurotrash scum.

Vi is especially pushing this bullshit on Zhero extra hard. For someone that is supposed to be the MafiaScum equivalent of Superman, hell the entire Justice League, he is using especially weak newbie reasoning to plant that crapass vote on me. He suddenly finds scum on two useless posts from Zhero and then his disappearance (Which is really a blessing since you now have me to find the Euroscum)? Really?

On top of that, Vi is trying to act like a White Knight. All those White Knight fuckers need to die. White Knights are always scum.

OMGUS!

Vote: Vi

jesus christ, look at this post.

[inHimshallibe]

LOL, IS hit the jackpot but forgot about it.

If Fate flips scum, I want a fucking statue.

Original Paragon.

[inHimshallibe]

Need to fix mah hat. Also, lol Toasty, welcome to playing with inHim.

[inHimshallibe]

Hey Pooky, if there even is a tomorrow, nuke Mina for the possible desperation bus.
I'm nuking Fate tomorrow so I can try for my 5of7 glory and further add to my ageless legacy. I'm going into the history books bitchez!

At this point, Fate could very well be seeing how many people he can kill before dying himself.

I will know when I see his shadow left permanently imprinted on the countryside.

[inHimshallibe]

We're incredible idiots by not lynching Ludi today. :ohwell:

[inHimshallibe]

Votes mean nothing until LLD is dead. It'll find its rightful place in due time.

[inHimshallibe]

How in gods name can everybody repeatably call me town and then decide I would be a 'good lynch'. It makes absolutely no sense at all. The job here is to lynch scum, which is highly likely to be toasty toast given the repeated logical inconsistences he has made today.

It troubles me you don't realize you are necessary collateral.

[inHimshallibe]

vote: magister ludi

it's party time

[inHimshallibe]

My recent vacation was to Atlanta. Had a better than decent time.

[inHimshallibe]

My recent vacation was to Atlanta. Had a better than decent time.

What'd you do? There's not a whole lot to do in ATL except party, go to concerts, etc.

If you had told me, I would've recommended trying the Varsity at least once.

Touristy things, like World of Coke, GA Aquarium, Six Flags... Goliath was fucking win.

I have done the party thing for a friend's bachelor party, this was more sightseeing oriented. And oh yes, The Varsity was A+.

[inHimshallibe]

Anyhow, the self-preservation begins.

[inHimshallibe]

Is self-preservation indicative of alignment?

If you're not partying by this point, you're not doing it right, that's for damn sure.

[inHimshallibe]

Hey I found a towntell.

[inHimshallibe]

towntell> HEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZWAVRE

[inHimshallibe]

towntell> Fate being Fate.

[inHimshallibe]

Hindu, who did you protect?

Also...

[inHimshallibe]

Fate, I'm about to pull a trigger. I'll let you guess. If you guess correctly, you get 25 inPoints.

[inHimshallibe]

yo inhim

u scum?

Not fucking around here, are we?

I'm an American, through and through, tried and true.

[inHimshallibe]

NUKECELERATION

[inHimshallibe]

There'd be a lot more spam if Fate were scum.

I'll wait for flips before firing.

[inHimshallibe]

Uhhhh

You realize

There's no need to wait.

If we flip anything BUT TOWN your shot is meaningless.

We're flipping town you dumbfuck

Lol I knooooow there's no NEED to wait. Just more fun and pageantry if I do.


And I thought Toasty was the last scums, hm?

[inHimshallibe]

Honestly, I could see any of the following being true:
Fate and Toasty are both scum
Fate and Toasty are both town (Fate's just trolling by "claiming" scum)
Fate is scum and Toasty is town.

I don't think the fourth possibility's going to happen, but since it's any of those three, I see no reason to recall my nuke. If I'm on between when Fate dies and Toasty dies and Fate flips town, I'll consider recalling my nuke.

lmfao.


Don't recall that nuke no way no how.

[inHimshallibe]

If they were town, they would suicide for us, just sayin'

Given Toasty's complete absence, he may just be rolling over.

[inHimshallibe]

IS is 500% confirmed American. There's no two ways about this.

[inHimshallibe]

Welp, guess we'll see in a bit.

[inHimshallibe]

Am I the only one that doesn't 51% believe this?

Literally 50/50.

Although this is the spam I would've expected when I mentioned it earlier.

[inHimshallibe]

I've noticed a fatal flaw in the scumteam in 2.0 and 3.0, will wait for 4.0 to see if they adjust.

[inHimshallibe]

Why I thought Fate was lying?

Because, Fate is Fate, and I found it equally likely he could be pulling that either way. TBH, Hindu, I thought you thought he was scum when he admitted it.

[inHimshallibe]

BTW, I'm not giving up. I still have reads to eliminate. Taking Pooky down a peg out of respect, and because he hasn't given me that golden statement yeah. We're not about to lose, we're on the edge of glory.

[inHimshallibe]

Could be useful in determining what to do with gorilla, which I think solidified himself as a townlock.

Humor me and assume with me that Regfan is scum. That leaves two scum remaining. Who do you think they are?

They exist outside of

Myself
IS
gorilla
Mina
Hinduragi
Pooky

OK, eliminating Pooky.

[inHimshallibe]

v/la until monday morning

[inHimshallibe]

Alright bitches. Nuke is getting fired today imo. [/nixon]

[inHimshallibe]

Sorry, was a bit sick last night. Must have partied too hard.


Hindu, who did you protect?

[inHimshallibe]

I'd like the following craters:

gorilla
Pooky
Mystery Crater

[inHimshallibe]

I retract the wish for gorilla crater at this point. Still reviewing.

[inHimshallibe]

I want something to happen NOW, you bunch of cowards. I wish I had more nukes or else I would do it by myself.

Tell me what you think of Hinduragi.

[inHimshallibe]

He can't protect himself, but he also can't live.

[inHimshallibe]

See I told myself "I look at the remaining players, and I notice I am confused." Reading through the thread I'm starting to see all these scum connections making it unlikely that IS, Hez, gorilla, Mina, and Pooky are scum. Fate seemed determined to prove to me that dana wasn't scum. And so I was confused. Something I believe must be fiction then, and I'm starting to wonder about our dear friend Hinduragi.

[inHimshallibe]

You're helping me. :D

[inHimshallibe]

There ain't no reason you and I should be alone tonight, yeah baby.

NUKE: HINDURAGI

[inHimshallibe]

Of course I nuked him. He can beg to AGM if he wants his quote.

[inHimshallibe]

is that no you didn't protect her or no you won't tell me?

Don't nuke yet, Pooky. Let's get a flip.

[inHimshallibe]

I'd hate to ruin good ol'-fashioned American dreams.

[inHimshallibe]

I think we lynch gorilla.


I want all nukes active.

[inHimshallibe]

dana has a good point, makes me feel a lot better about the slot.

[inHimshallibe]

Thank you for your service.

I made those nukes that got my hands dirty in ways others won't.

In my opinion killing Pooky Mina and dana clinches us the war. I will die by the sword of another, so long as we agree Pooky Mina and dana die.

Pooky the stage is yours. We await our fates.

[inHimshallibe]

The retroactively best reason to nuke Hinduragi is that he didn't have a nuke of his own, and like every scum had him middle of the pack.

I had three town reads after reconsidering gorilla. I am working toward that goal if I can not be a part of the final day.

Do you fear death? Pooky is lurking.

[inHimshallibe]

Ok, nuke Pooky Dana or me...
Pooky nukes mina Dana or me...

Then we can reassess.

[inHimshallibe]

Goddamn it, inHim.

Stop throwing me off by suggesting plans in which you die.

Can't you make my life much easier and act really, really scummy right now?

Okay, sorry, but I'm going to do some rereading before I fire my nuke. And this time, I don't have Fate/Faraday/et al screaming at me to sheep their read.

It's funny, because Faraday's read of you was the guiding hand that kept you from being a crater.

IS, the only reason I don't want to lynch Hez is because we can force one of the remainder tomorrow to wipe them both out. Maybe.

[inHimshallibe]

HEY HINDU TAKE DIS WIT CHEW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfISlGLNU

[inHimshallibe]

Jeebus.

Zhero got pushed by Vi under the pretense of "this game I modded had a newb scum that replaced out." IS told 7 people, 4 of which were scum, that they weren't "Nostra-fucking-damus."

I will have no part in his death.

[inHimshallibe]

I will fucking nuke Hez if that is what it takes. We need to lynch one of Pooky/Mina/dana.

vote: dana

[inHimshallibe]

salute.

[inHimshallibe]

Fucking hell.

DANA RECALL DAT NUKE.

[inHimshallibe]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME DANA.

[inHimshallibe]

This is what I get for nuking Hindu first.

I just wanted three deaths. I just wanted. three. deaths.