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[DeityKabuto]

Just became aware that the game was up, catching up now.

[DeityKabuto]

Sorry, but can you guys not cuss? I honestly don't see what cussing accomplishes. It seems quite rude and makes you seem less classy. Thanks!

I'll keep that in mind.

[DeityKabuto]

I don't like a single one of C-worl's posts. None. Especially his reaction to votes in RVS.

VOTE: C-worl

Start a case on him, or else this is not a good vote.

[DeityKabuto]

Mod confirmed that lynches flip. NKs flip to their respective killers. (Except hider, I think.)

I think I understand where you're coming from now, though.

UNVOTE: Surye

@wredfar

: what don't you like besides his RVS reactions and why?

My list so far:

Town

jil (outburst was bad, but no way is it coming from scum.)
ironhead (I've really liked his posts)

Leaning Town

Nocmen (mafia don't use "feelings" for their "scum"-leads, I think.)
Mask (He came up with the self-investigating idea.)
monk (I feel a kindred spirit with the way he posts.)

Null

CMAR (I've explained this.)
C-Worl (C-Worl is just plain null)

DEITY YOU NINJA

I think you are being a bit too nice here, there has to be someone you suspect, even if it a small thing they had done, it is still a lead.

[DeityKabuto]

I don't like a single one of C-worl's posts. None. Especially his reaction to votes in RVS.

VOTE: C-worl

Start a case on him, or else this is not a good vote.

He did start it, with the reaction to RVS votes. What do you think of that case?

My concern with the Surye posts is not MC strategy, but the fact that he didn't know one of hte main factors of the game (NKs aren't revealed publicly), as I worry what else he may not read later on.

I believe that C-worl is more of an easy-lynch based on Meta and his playstyle so far.

[DeityKabuto]

Vote Cobblerfone

The wagon for the day.

[DeityKabuto]

What is you're opinion now of the mass claim option, ironhead?

Mine is, if we want to mass claim ever, today is the only day that it'll be feasible. But after thinking about it, a middle-of-the-road approach might be better.

The only two options seem to be, "mass claim today" or "take all claims later on with a huge grain of salt".

Wrong, Mason claim in D1 = Never. When their are less players say, 6-10 and their aren't really any scumtells, Mason claims are more reasonable.

[DeityKabuto]

I got sidetracked while catching up yesterday, so let me go ahead and start again. I'll post my thoughts as I read from post 80.

*Don't see anything of real interest on page 4

Post 103 (jilynne1991): ...what was that about?
Post 105 (Surye): The point is that you answered a question directed towards another player. Effectively, you ruined a decent reaction test. Don't answer questions for other players. Also, you call CMAR "not protown" for discouraging questioning, but that's not what he was doing at all.
Post 107 (Nocmen): Horrible. That post you quoted wasn't WIFOM at all. Even if it were WIFOM, I don't like the way you tried to present it. "Not too important, but I need to point out the use of WIFOM this early." Okay, why? Do you think it's scummy? You're trying to spread suspicion around subtly.
Post 108 (earworm): Ha. Earworm sees the fallacies of post 107.
Post 115 (Nocmen): Jil's interactions with Vezo are null at best, in my opinion.
Post 116 (vezokpiraka): >_>
Post 121 (Ironhead): I really like this post by Ironhead. Just got a strong town vibe here.
Post 125 (vezokpiraka): I lol'ed.
Post 131 (Surye): I also like this post. A list of reads with REASONS.
Post 136 (The Mask): Don't like the Surye vote.
Post 138 (C-Worl): I think I saw what CMAR saw, but I'll keep it to myself. However, why do you think CMAR is townish? What has he done to make you think he's town? You just said you haven't seen him do anything scummy, but that doesn't make him town either.
Post 141 (jilynne1991): I've already said I don't like this, with reasoning and questions.
Post 143 (jilynne1991): What is this? Nobody had cursed in quite a few posts. Also, did you forget your outburst in post 103?
Post 145 (Ironhead): Gladly.
Post 153 (Ironhead):

What's RQS?

>_>
Post 154 (Cobblerfone): Niiiice excuse for not placing a vote. You don't need to wait for other people to start placing votes.
Post 157 (wredfar): First I've seen of Wredfar. Already don't like the posting. You give no new reasoning whatsoever. You basically just copied Surye's reasoning.
Post 163 (DeityKabuto): Good, good. Somebody else saw what I see.
Post 164 (Cobblerfone): Cobbler also sees how bad post 157 was. However, I don't agree with any of your reads and you have no scum reads. Bad.
Post 167 (Surye): I agree.
*Arguments between Cobbler and Surye
Post 174 (Nocmen): That's not a case, and even if it were, someone else already brought it up.
Post 189 (Cobblerfone): Still don't like how you don't have any scum reads, even though you sort of explain why.
Post 190 (monk): Another bad list. No reasoning for anything
Post 199 (Sathoris): I agreed with most of your list until your vote. What about monk's list in post 190? Why did you vote for Jil when monk also posted a list with no reasoning? I realize I did this as well, but I hadn't read that far into the thread.
Post 207 (vezokpiraka): Okay, you saw enough through Cobbler's interactions with other players to vote him. However, ...
Post 208 (DeityKabuto): ...this is a horrible vote. Almost wipes out all town cred I had personally given Deity.
Post 220 (Nocmen): I feel like you're intentionally not understanding earworm. >_>

VOTE: Nocmen

Okay, I'm done. I got the worst overall vibes from Nocmen, though several others are close behind. After a while, perhaps, I'll sum up my reads in a list (with reasoning, of course) and do a wagon analysis. The latter might have to wait until Day 2, though.

I like how you put him on blast.

Unvote
Vote Nocmen

[DeityKabuto]

Unvote
Vote Pine

Keep relying on meta? :/

[DeityKabuto]

What? Meta isn't to be used to clear or condemn anyone. It's a tool.

Voting for replacements before they can have a chance to even read the thread is very scummy. Sathoris at least made an effort to justify it.

That's the thing. Lmaox. Replacements have a chance to appear town, and most replacements, who use this to their advantage fly under the radar and find a loop to easily appear town. That's the tricky thing about replacements.

[DeityKabuto]

Sorry for not posting lately. I'm still here.

That's nice.

[DeityKabuto]

Sorry for not posting lately. I'm still here.

That's nice.

What. a. freaking. hypocrite. Nice job active lurking. Consider youself on my scum list.

This is also provoking me to reread all you posts.

Erm... lol?

[DeityKabuto]

Ok, I'm sorry for posting 2x, but Pine you've had some useless posts, so have sorasgoof, so I was refering it to all 3 of you.

Mainly, though it was DK. God, at least 75% of her posts seem either clueless or pointless.

I am a guy.

[DeityKabuto]

@Kabuto: how would you describe your posting style?

Though it seems to have already been pointed out that it's very brief. (And your posts here have some wagon-hopping. Which is null in my book, but when combined with brevity not good at all.)

So I'll ask you this question instead: Who do you think are scum?

Despite the posting style thing, I suspect a lot of people, how/what they post compared to other comments seem a bit scummy.

Example:

Person A) Hey let's lynch this guy, he is a major noobo.

Person B) Hey let's lynch Person A) for voting a major noobo.

Person C) Hey let's lynch Person B) for bussing his scumpartner.

Person D) Hey let's lynch Person C) for double-bussing his scumpartner.

Person E) Hey let's lynch Person D) for making no fucking sense

Person F) Hey you all of you dumbfucks do me a favor and start scumhunting (that's me)

Ignore the previous example, I just felt like putting in there, but really lawl. My next post will be the most safest-lynch for the day. So stay tuned!

[DeityKabuto]

LOL...I learned the word "hypocrite" at age...what, 11?

You don't see a 13 year old staying inside to play mafia instead of video games that often either.

I learned it at age 7, I think.

[DeityKabuto]

Cobblefone is still scum.

Can't you see it? Now he is posting less in order to make the suspicion go away form him.

The exact opposite, my friend.

I love attention, either way I will get it.

[DeityKabuto]

I think Surye is scummy.

DK not so much but he is just annoying.

Sorry. But can you tell me how to change, say how you want me to play?

[DeityKabuto]

I'm sorry but this game is kind of boring. There's no town coordination at all. It seems almost impossible to get anyone close to being lynched and at this point it seems like the thread has died. I voted someone for no reason and not a single person said a word about it. People need to get more active or teh scums are gonna lurk to victory.

Vezok ur points toward DK are hypocritical.

jilynne1991'a 344 is hard for me to understand. I feel like there's a wall of incomprehensibility in front of me.

Oh.

And what were my points towawrds vezok?

Can you provide evidence, a quote, perhaps? Hmmm?

[DeityKabuto]

People flying under the radar and stuff, I want to see more people posting reads.

[DeityKabuto]

Guys, I am the Bodyguard. o.o

You guys are trying to easy lynch me without a formal case. o.O

[DeityKabuto]

With that said, their are obv. scum who hopped on that wagon, let's check it out!

[DeityKabuto]

Unvote
Vote jilynne1991

[DeityKabuto]

Formal case: DK has not contributed anything of substance in this entire game, but has trolled and actively lurked for days. Further, he claims a protective role and tries to deflect onto a different easy lynch.

Scum.

Real bodyguard should not counter-claim.

Unvote
Vote Pine

But I really am the Bodyguard. o.o

I am not lying on that behalf. That is why I think you're a confused shit townie or scum right now. You are deluded as you speak, because my claim was the truth. My vote will remain like this for the remainder of the Day, you just slipped.

[DeityKabuto]

Formal case: DK has not contributed anything of substance in this entire game, but has trolled and actively lurked for days. Further, he claims a protective role and tries to deflect onto a different easy lynch.

Scum.

Real bodyguard should not counter-claim.

Unvote
Vote Pine

But I really am the Bodyguard. o.o

I am not lying on that behalf. That is why I think you're a confused shit townie or scum right now. You are deluded as you speak, because my claim was the truth. My vote will remain like this for the remainder of the Day, you just slipped.

Perhaps the worst post I have ever read. Ever.

Stop hating, and post some actual content.

[DeityKabuto]

Formal case: DK has not contributed anything of substance in this entire game, but has trolled and actively lurked for days. Further, he claims a protective role and tries to deflect onto a different easy lynch.

Scum.

Real bodyguard should not counter-claim.

Unvote
Vote Pine

But I really am the Bodyguard. o.o

I am not lying on that behalf. That is why I think you're a confused shit townie or scum right now. You are deluded as you speak, because my claim was the truth. My vote will remain like this for the remainder of the Day, you just slipped.

Perhaps the worst post I have ever read. Ever.

Stop hating, and post some actual content.

That's cute. But my god, First, you are angry someone doesn't believe your claim, like it's OMG obvious to anyone you're telling the truth. Then you say he's stupid or scum (for not believing your claim), then you proceed to get more emotional, then say that you'll vote him all day, because he "slipped". What was his slip, not believing your claim at face value?

No, stop pretending like you don't know what I'm talking about.

HIS SLIP WAS PUTTING PRESSURE ON A PRO-TOWN PLAYER, AND NOW YOU ARE DEFENDING HIM SO YOU BOTH ARE SCUM.

FoS Surye

[DeityKabuto]

That's cute. But my god, First, you are angry someone doesn't believe your claim, like it's OMG obvious to anyone you're telling the truth. Then you say he's stupid or scum (for not believing your claim), then you proceed to get more emotional, then say that you'll vote him all day, because he "slipped". What was his slip, not believing your claim at face value?

You forgot the hypocrisy in his asking for content and for asking for more reads.

@Kabuto: Reread your iso and tell me how protown you sound.

Okay, I take it back, I am not pro-town, geez. o.o

[DeityKabuto]

No, stop pretending like you don't know what I'm talking about.

HIS SLIP WAS PUTTING PRESSURE ON A PRO-TOWN PLAYER, AND NOW YOU ARE DEFENDING HIM SO YOU BOTH ARE SCUM.

FoS Surye

No way can you be serious.

I AM NOW UR JUST COVERING UP SUSPICION WITH THAT SIDE-STATEMENT, THE NEXT THINK YOU KNOW, YOU'RE AT L-1.

[DeityKabuto]

I said I am the Bodyguard because they didn't believe me, it's not scummy and you scum are pulling on a mislynch when a power role can help the town.

If you want my reads, we have until deadline, right?

[DeityKabuto]

I'm not waiting a week for you to twiddle your thumbs and not post your reads. I'll hammer by the end of the day regardless.

um so even if I give you my unbiased report you will still hammer me when i haven't done anything scummy o.o

that sounds very smart

[DeityKabuto]

Your whole game has been scummy. You can give us your reads in your first and final town act. If you're town you at least passed on whatever you may have thought. You didn't truly think posting a list of reads is going to clear you of being scum?

All this stalling isn't making you look any more town. Get it over with.

HOW about you and your buddies stop being dicks, and learn to get over it, move on, start cases the opposite direction of DK, you know that I will flip Bodyguard exactly how I said I would, don't waste your lynch on me.

[DeityKabuto]

Here's the main issue I have with the DK lynch.

I've looked through his iso.

The main thing I feel about DK is that he needs to post his reads. Right now he's just being stubborn and it's definitely hurting us. Also, do we want to give him a chance to confirm his role? If we have another PR that claims, he has to defend them, and if he is still alive afterwards, then lynch him? Would that work? In theory it should, but additionally I'm rushing and it may not.

Sure, I'll give you my reads, but first I need to re-examine the thread, and then post it.

[DeityKabuto]

I'm not waiting a week for you to twiddle your thumbs and not post your reads. I'll hammer by the end of the day regardless.

um so even if I give you my unbiased report you will still hammer me when i haven't done anything scummy o.o

that sounds very smart

You have a laundry list of scummy things, most recently withholding reads saying "deadline!". Not to mention claiming way too early, then imploding in a pile of anti-town blasting.

How people are posting that you are not the lynch without any reasons is mind boggling.

I don't get why you are putting any effort for a mis-lynch.

Enough with the talk, let me prepare my reads tommorow.

[DeityKabuto]

I'm not waiting a week for you to twiddle your thumbs and not post your reads. I'll hammer by the end of the day regardless.

um so even if I give you my unbiased report you will still hammer me when i haven't done anything scummy o.o

that sounds very smart

You have a laundry list of scummy things, most recently withholding reads saying "deadline!". Not to mention claiming way too early, then imploding in a pile of anti-town blasting.

How people are posting that you are not the lynch without any reasons is mind boggling.

I don't get why you are putting any effort for a mis-lynch.

Enough with the talk, let me prepare my reads tommorow.

Put yourself in my position. Or anyone in town's position. What makes you so obviously town that your outrage at not taking your claim for granted is justified? Are you really that arrogant that you cannot realize you've given us no inherent reason to take your claim as truth?

Erm... well sort of, my reads shouldn't disappoint you.

[DeityKabuto]

EBWOP: No I don't believe him to be the bodyguard and letting him live to be NK'ed means we will never know if he was the bodyguard. Lynching him does, if he's telling the truth about being a bodyguard, we've lost him anyway.

What are you talking about? o.o

You guys are here to tell me who to target, just not yourselves.

[DeityKabuto]

No.

We lynch him now. We won't know what he will flip if we let him alive.

You don't want my reads first? o.O

[DeityKabuto]

Anyways, I didn't know how this came to be. The scum are all trying to have a power role lynched right now, but I understand it's my fault that I claimed PR, so screw the reads, lynch me but understand their should be scum lingering on my wagon since I am the town's Bodyguard. Use that to your advantage.

Vote DeityKabuto

I hope I was useful, for once.

[DeityKabuto]

Clearly breaking the rules and imho, should be modkilled and turned into neutral survivor. And blacklisted for shit like this. The fact that you promised and promised and promised reads, only to self hammer without giving them makes it clear you broke "play to win", and also, are even more likely scum.

What is your problem?

You are ruining the scene, self-sacrifice is required in some cases. Why not bash on somebody else?

[DeityKabuto]

Clearly breaking the rules and imho, should be modkilled and turned into neutral survivor. And blacklisted for shit like this. The fact that you promised and promised and promised reads, only to self hammer without giving them makes it clear you broke "play to win", and also, are even more likely scum.

I have never lied about my role ever, you are more likely to be scum since you are doubting my claim and trying to make me look worse.