Civilization Mafia - Town Wins!

[Akonas]

Yeh, the somewhat-possible-to-get-results thing is annoying. I wonder what the scum get? Can they build like us? Or do they just kill things?

[Akonas]

/show up

Aight, I had a lot of homework this past week, since it was the last week of teh grading period. But now I'm back and can play. And I didn't find anything out last night.

[Akonas]

So, where is this all going exactly? Seems to me that everyone is just sitting around, not saying anything. Thok does have a point though, it would not be a good idea to reveal who you are, as then scum will going around whoever gets the best special unit (probably late in the game). What is everyone's feeling on what's going to happen? Seems like no one's really saying anything.

[Akonas]

i think that the random order thing would be best, stopping scum from hiding by saying they investigated the same person as everyone else, if they couldn't just say they got nothing. What we really need to do is set up some system for randomly determining who will investigate whom.

[Akonas]

Sorry, I forgot to say: no results.

[Akonas]

Well, we need to get somewhere, so I'll go with a

Vote: Lord Rahl

[Akonas]

Even if it is "obvious," it doens't really matter. It may not have been obvious to some of us- myself included.

Vote: Puzzle

- generating pressure.

[Akonas]

i think hes now under enough....

Pressure
Pushing down on

me

Puzzle
Pressing down on

you

Puzzle
No man ask for
Under pressure
That burns a building down
Splits a family in two
Puts people on streets

It's the terror of knowing
What this world is about
Watching some good friends
Screaming "let me out"
Pray tomorrow
Gets me higher
Pressure on people
People on streets

It's the terror of knowing
What this world is about
Watching some good friends
Screaming "let me out"
Pray tomorrow
Gets me higher
Pressure on people
People on streets

Turned away from it all like a blind man
Sat on a fence but it don't work
Keep coming up with love but it's so slashed and torn
Why, why, WHY!

Love
Insanity laughs under pressure we're cracking
Can't we give ourselves one more chance
Why can't we give love that one more chance
Why can't we give love, give love, give love
Give love, give love, give love, give love, give love

Cause love's such an old fashioned word
And love dares you to care for
The people on the edge of the night
And love dares you to change our way of
Caring about ourselves
This is our last dance
This is ourselves
Under pressure
Under pressure
Pressure

QFT

Very true.

[Akonas]

lets put pressure.

unvote
vote: Puzzle

I've already claimed.

Sorry, apparently I missed this when I was reading through... what did you claim? And where?

[Akonas]

Yes. The problem is that it takes too long to go back and check them all.

[Akonas]

Alright.

Vote: MoS

[Akonas]

I investigated InHim and got an innocent result. And I am really hoping that there's no chance of your guys getting the wrong answer...

vote: d8p

because of his bad results.

[Akonas]

Gah, I hate paranoid/insane/naive cops. Given the already-existing probability of getting it wrong, could there just be a chance of getting it wrong? This would seem to kind of make it not work that well, but then again, if all pro-town players can investigate...

It would be nice to put a list of all the investigations people have made up, just so we have something to refer to. I don't have time at the moment, as I have to study for finals .

unvote

[Akonas]

Hmm... Well, what do you think our best bet is? I think we just have to go with someone.

[Akonas]

yay helpful post!

FoS: Astronaut

. Your actions seem very much like those of a scum in this situation. You are pushing for a lynch and saying that we probably aren't at lynch-or-lose. But if we are, then the town isn't going to win if we get a wrong lynch. And I know that if I was scum right now, I would be wanting the town to make a hasty wrong lynch and lose.

[Akonas]

hey, I'll post too! Let's hear it.

[Akonas]

Haha. Shoulda done your research. Die and learn, bub.

And I don't even get to be on the wagon...

[Akonas]

I'm sorry. I forgot about this thread a bit.

[Akonas]

Results confirmed. Which means:

a) Lord Rahl and Yosarian2 are scum (and Puzzle was naive/wrong)

b) I'm paranoid = useless
c) ..insane (Lord Rahl and Yosarian2 = GGs =>Puzzle was right)
or d) I'm scum => Astronaut is naive/scum

Not that this helps any.

Vote: Yosarian2

[Akonas]

I got nothing last night. So you know.

Will no one else respond to d8p's theory?

[Akonas]

Well, that leaves the option of whether to do a random order or have me go first. I'd be happy with either. Any thoughts?

[Akonas]

Allight. I'm Shaka of the Zulu. My special unit is the Impi (tech level 1; 1/2/1). My night choices/the guy I replaced's were: Impi night 1, nothing night 2 (missed it), night 3 investigated InHim but failed, and I got a second one. Night four I built another and investigated InHim with two but failed. Night 5 I teched up and investigated with all of them, got InHim as civilized; last night, I teched up and got no results.

Yosarian2, your turn.

[Akonas]

Well, I seem to have lost my role PM, and put the stats in the wrong order. I know both from playing the game and the information I was sent that Impis have a two in movement (investigation). Sorry for the mispost.

[Akonas]

Well, if we leave one scum of each group, that could also be helpful to the town. And since there's six alive, having 2 scum tomorrow vs. 3 townies isn't good odds, whereas scum killing each other is always nice.

[Akonas]

Well, I'm not quite sure what you mean by miller. I think that either way, town needs to get scum killed. Who they are doesn't matter as much as the fact that they die. And it will be hard to pinpoint who belongs to which mafia. So I suggest we just go ahead with the lynching.

[Akonas]

I'm a flying pumpkin that shoots lazers out of my ass.

I guess that means that you're pulling stuff out of your ass?

[Akonas]

I could understand how the Space Race thing would work, but I'm not sure if he's telling the truth- and if he is, how can we verify it? If we are leaving him alone today, I'm thinking a vigging is in order tonight.

[Akonas]

Okay. We

could

verify it, assuming someone else has teched up all the way, and that it's not their scum buddy supporting them. We'd need two people to have teched up. In the absence of that, I'm not sure. Also, there's nothing wrong with vigging him if he's not protown, right? His vote might help us, but he might not help us.

[Akonas]

that's true. I guess you're really in the best spot here, with no one really wanting to kill you then. And the explanatino sounds plausible. I guess we might as well believe you, but then who to lynch?

I'm waiting for a post from Tyfo.

[Akonas]

So, Yos doesn't seem to be claiming anything other than Space Race. Shall I suggest at this point that we lynch someone else and vig him tonight? It would allow us some better odds.

[Akonas]

Umm...so I reread a bit. Let's review the investigations we had yesterday:

Astronaut: d8p=innocent
d8p: Yosarian and Lord Rahl = scum

It seems that since d8p is both cleared as sane and pro-town, we

know

that Yos is either scum or space race. Now, Yos would have had to have gone into the space race N4. For that to happen, based on this link, he would have had to have teched to Medieval, then Industrial, then Modern, and then entered the Space Race. That makes sense, and since I can't find any evidence otherwise, his claim seems to check out. I figure we might as well believe him then, as if town had some paranoid/insane investigations, the game would be unbalanced.

Also,

Mod:

can we get a prod on Tyfo?

[Akonas]

Well, we have six people alive. I think that what we should do is lynch one of the Middle Eastern scum today, and not vig anyone tonight, so that the scum are put into a Prisoners' Dillema. Otherwise, we're putting too much faith into units that won't work for sure. If we have vigs tonight, we'll end up with two few people, and if we lynch so that one of the scum groups is gone, we are left with 2 town vs. 2 scum.

FoS: everyone who's advocating getting rid of the European Barbarians

.

Now that that's said, on to InHim. I don't think it's likely that we get 100% effective units when we're completely upgraded; that would make those who had teched far more usegul. Also, what good would the unique Modern Era units? I'm pretty sure InHim is scum.

[Akonas]

What do you mean, I've been winging it the whole game? Why are you so fast to vote me-

when we're in lynch-or-lose?!?!??

And like I said, InHim is almost certainly lying. I haven't seen increases nearly great enough to be able to even approach InHim's supposed powers.

[Akonas]

In other words, the only logical reason for you to vote for anyone other then inhim would be if you were scum.

I am 100% sure that InHim is scum, but I'm also 99% sure that you are scum.

The only logical reason not vote for InHim is that I am perfectly sure that you are scum and, at that point, one scum or the other doesn't really makes the difference, unless I find a way to tell who's European and who's Middle East.

Right now I'm sticking with InHim, as my vote says, but you just went up to 99,5%.

Actually, one scum or the other could make all the difference. Unless we manage to vig or protect correctly, if we lynch European barbarians today, we're screwed. They will kill someone today and be equal in numbers with us tomorrow. That really doesn't sound like a good situation. If, however, we kill one of the Arabs, then we are left with a situation involving two opposing scum players (prisoners' dillema, probably), which is good for the town. And as for how to find who is who? Post analysis! Go back and look!

[Akonas]

I think InHim is most likely to be scum. Take a look at this post:

Astronaut... you are the civ!

We don't even need Tyfo, now. d_rouge is scummity scum scummy scum scum.

I

am Gilgamesh of the Sumerians, and now that I'm pretty confident we have all of our scum accounted for, I think we have this in the bag.

I'm maxed out on technology. I have two 100% roleblockers, and one 100% cop unit.

My only cop result was unfortunately on d8P last Night. I built a Radar unit or whatever the first Night I had modern technology, on the off-chance we might have two outed scum and I could start blocking. I have since built another Radar thingy.

I'm pretty certain Yos is our single scum left - I blocked him last Night, and we only had one kill.

I think we should lynch a player I'm pretty sure our Middle Eastern scum is, and that would be d_rouge. That way, if there

is

some deception going on, we can't be endgamed by a pair of scum.

Ok then.

vote: d_rouge

This whole post reeks of scum to me. While it is possible that he's telling the truth, the way he says "I caught you!" and says that the game is pretty much over irks me. I think he's the best candidate for a lynch, and unless someone persuades me otherwise, I'll probably vote for him over the next couple of days.

[Akonas]

I am going to be going on a band trip, so I will have no internet access until next Tuesday at least. I'm posting this in all my games to let you know.

And InHim, how don't you know? didn't the mod PM you?

[Akonas]

I don't see that my opinions have changed much.

Vote: InHim

.

[Akonas]

Well, we definitely want to lynch a scum of the larger group, InHim. This is why we are not lynching anyone we know is scum simply because we know they are scum. And I believe you to be such.

[Akonas]

Vote: Yosarian2

.

You're obviously scum.

[Akonas]

Haha. Thanks. Why don't we cut the crap and

Vote: No Lynch

?

[Akonas]

whooooooo!!! Town wins! Who da man!

gg all.