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VOTE: Magister Ludi
1) low profile, less likely to be recruited, therefore more likely to be recruited D1.
2) Came in trying to control the thought process of the town- don't scum hunt, try and outguess the CRs = cult recruit, probably Kinetic's
Also, I will not follow the CRs plan. Mainly because of 2) and the fact that I'd rather rely on my own thinking process than someone else's.
I'll be posting less often Monday-Thursday because of my internship (don't have clearance to use a computer), which will seem more lurky due to the large number of players/posts of a game of this size. I will post at least once a day during that time.-
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Herodotus wrote:I don't see any incompatibility. I would not have wanted any pressure on Cobblerfone if I thought he was town, either. But Cobbler appeared to basically claim scum, and without any pressure.
Wut?
Herodotus wrote:I'd rather not see Ludi, in particular, pushed too hard, because he's a newbie and may look scummy even as a townie if he's pressured.
So if we feel that Ludi is scum, we shouldn't push hard because he will act scummy? Wouldn't he also act scummy if he is scum? Why should we treat him with kid gloves, especially in a cult heavy game? How has he acted in a pro-town way? All I've seen from him was him really trying to hunt for the recruits by trying to outguess a player (whom is trying to outguess another CR and the town, which adds another level of difficulty) and to lead the town into the same thought process.-
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Herodotus wrote:Wut what? I already explained how Cobbler's comment resembled a scumslip.
That's not the problem that I saw. I want to know why you think we should treat a noobie with kid gloves. I want to know why I shouldn't press on someone I find to be scummy, because he may make a scumslip (and be town).-
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Herodotus- No. I do not like giving newbies passes. I've been screwed over many a times because I took skill level into consideration.
Just want to point out that if I were ABR or Kinetic and was looking forward to beating the other, I wouldn't be helping the town against the other cult D1. Where's the sense of victory over the other cult if the town wipes them out?
Yos- You clearly haven't played with me often enough to know my scum meta based on your description of me.
Not liking Cobb or xvart, as well as Ludi. Claiming unrecruitable is similar to me as someone claiming bulletproof in a normal game. Combine that with his play - voting someone because their role is doctor (changes it for a policy lynch for an ongoing game ) However, xvart's attack on him (starting around Cobb's ISO 11) makes me think xvart is trying hard to get the lead wagon shifted over to Cobb, and not because he finds Cobb scummy.
Xvart- Gets attention thrown on him, makes shitty case on Chrono that fails, shifts to Cobbler who was already looking suspicous with another bad point (the whole "other recruit"). ISO 5 has him trying to chake the confidence of anyone voting him (or anyone really) that the majority of the day will be town on town.
Zdenek- You only mention 16 players in your last post, what about the 9 others (besides the CRs)?-
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I'm more confident with my vote on Ludi since my last post.
Ludi- I did not vote you for being a probable recruit. I voted you for trying to get town to focus their scumhunting on those who would be recruited (which is anti-town at best). I backed it up with the fact that you would be a decent choice for a recruit. My main point was and still is you trying to get town to focus on outguess the players, and your recent posts is you trying to get us to outguess the mod (which is at best, active lurking).
Post 344- No one cares what would have happened if one of the recruitments failed N0. It didn't happen, and it will have no impact later on.
346- You try and make DGB look scummy for refusing to answer. There is plenty of information town withholds.-
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Magister Ludi wrote:So if a player is not a probable N1 recruit, its is a terrible idea to vote them, no matter what they do. Do you disagree with this?
Sincerely... you don't try and vote someone for being a probable recruit, you do it because they are scummy. You may use it to back up your case, but not make it your only point. See: Just about everything I've been saying today about you.
I thought you just estbalished I was a bad choice. Why am I a good choice for a recruit then? Remember, they had to choose before they could ever see me play or post. I have no idea how you came to this conclusion.
The whole WIFOM of not selecting a well known player in order to get someone no one suspects to survive until D2. Again, not my main point, just using it to boost the case a bit.
me wrote:and your recent posts is you trying to get us to outguess the mod (which is at best, active lurking).
Wrong. Mod's will try and balance this setup.
Duh... but that doesn't mean we just sit around and talk about the setup while we braid each other's hair. We got shit to do. This is just active lurking.
me wrote:"Post 344- No one cares what would have happened if one of the recruitments failed N0. It didn't happen, and it will have no impact later on"
"Herodotus- if one of the recruiters failed, then they would be dead due to the white flag rule."
Seems like you do care.
It's obvious, we don't need to discuss it. No one cares what would of happened since it will not come up again (there's only 1 N0). We already know what did happen (both recruiters have a min of 1 recruit).-
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More Ludi votes please...
There are a surprising amount of people with single digit posts. I would think some of them would post more (Katsuki seems to post a lot, but not this game). Also, I think anyone who is playing against their wincon right now in hopes of being recruited, should be taken out back and shot.-
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^unless they did a quick read through to see if any of the noobs were decent enough to survive
Ninja Edit: I don't understand what your point is. Is it that Hero's vote was shitty, based on misunderstanding of 'other'?
Dry-fit wrote:Battousai wrote:There are a surprising amount of people with single digit posts. I would think some of them would post more (Katsuki seems to post a lot, but not this game). Also, I think anyone who is playing against their wincon right now in hopes of being recruited, should be taken out back and shot.
This post was your iso # 10
Who do you think is playing against their wincon?
Oh no, you found me out... I only have an average of 1 post a day (rounded down). I just picked 10 as a cut of as it was a rounded number (10, 20, 30, etc.)
NS -5 (confirm, simile, jokish remark, votes/participates, apology of inactivity)
Dry-fit 6 (4 before I posted) (confirm, finds cobbler scummy but unlikely recruit, apology of inactivity, catch up post/vote, asks 2 questions, spam/scum day post)
Cecily -6 (confirm, participate, participate/vote, participate, participate, activity promise)
Katsuki -7 (confirm, mechanic speculation, activity increase promise, hasn’t read/will lurk, participate, participate, explanation of lurk post)
Bunnylover- 5 (confirm, vote, role speculation, participate, participate)
Populartajo- 6 (confirm, reading, participate/vote, participate, participate, participate)
Seraphim- 6 (confirm, participate, participate, participate, participate/vote, promise of post)
RaudhrGarm- 4 (confirm, participate/vote, participate, apology of inactivity/v/la)
I know some of this is actual RL stuff and some of them don‘t post a lot to begin with, but I was putting it out there that I thought if anyone was intentionally lurking and trying to get by on that in order to get recruited (by not making waves, staying out of spotlight, not participating), or planed on or doing it in another way, that they are playing against wincon and they shouldn’t because that's dickish.-
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1) It is not, eliminating someone from being a suspect just because you don't think the CR would recruit them (which is why they would) is wrong.
2) "It makes no sense to shoot off with a list of 7-8 scum reads when there are only 2 recruited people in this thread" = "It makes no sense to shoot off with a list of 7-8 people who would be recruit candidates when there are only 2 recruited people in this thread" So the chances of getting scum today is low, so we should do nothing is basically what you are saying (though I know you don't mean it that way)
I'll say this one last time.... YOU CAN NOT OUTGUESS THE CR, IT IS CIRCULAR LOGIC. You say they would be more inclined to pick a powerful person who is hard to lynch and will help lead and define their cult. What if they thought you'd think that and went with a newish person or someone who gets lynched early a lot? Then you'd just eliminated the recruits and are now throwing your net on land instead of the small pond.
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springlullaby wrote:Battousai, what make you think DGB might be a recuit?
On Yosarian, I think the case on him is mostly weak, but the pressure is nice.
1) The way Kinetic has been defending her has made me look closer at her (though haven't gotten around to reading her ISOs yet)
2) The post where she says she has a plan if you let her live one night (normally I find that null, but not in a double cult game like this).
3) Her posts have seem spammish and her overall post count and presence seems overinflated because of it.-
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Yos- You can vote him all you want, but when the hammer comes, the "governor" will intervene and he will be saved and we will be screwed out of a day phase.
That's, of course, if I was telling the truth. I wanted to add a bit of a spark since the game was getting a bit stale, even after trying to buy votes with sweet treats and naked pictures. What I got was reactions (though tbh, I didn't know what kind of reaction I would receive). The one that seemed to jump out was NS.
His kneejerk reaction was that I made xvart unlynchable for the rest of the game (which he then fos's me).
1) How is that role even balanceable? All it does is waste vig kills because anyone unlynchable must be killed, less the CR's recruit them.
2) If that role was in the game, why not vote me? I basically made someone the town found scummy enough to vote for, unlynchable. Even if I wasn't scum, you would think you wouldn't want that role in the game.
In all, I think NS was intentionally overreacting. Either to appear more townie and pissed at what I did, or because he thought xvart was recruited by the other CR and thought I just helped their faction.
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Lady- If NS what negative attention was brought to NS? I believe I was the only one who voted him. While everyone was debating whether the role existed, NS was under no heat. You can't say it brought unwanted attention if there was not really any attention brought.
Also, it would be a gamble to recruit him, since 1) he could already be recruited and thus waste a night action or both CRs could go after him, and 2) he would more likely be vigged for town would think he would be recruited as well, so it would be a waste of a recruit.
I don't see why he wouldn't try and act the way he did to feign outrage, as scum.
Also, DGB, you will not be vigged tonight, for I use my second ability:
Bribe: DGB, to NS
There, now anyone attempting to kill DGB tonight will be bribed into killing NS instead of DGB.
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^Not to mention she's spamming the thread like DGB...
Let's see who all voted me (or called for my death):
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Zdenek- You say LL's case on me is reasonable... what about it? I think you are just wondering what to do since I activated my abilities. Am I acting like I've been recruited or am I just acting differently than what you'd expect?-
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Lady- It's not scummy. It's annoying.
Fine: Lady
There, now any time you double post (minus obviously site mishap doublepost) you will overdraw your account and be fined. You will require one less vote to lynch for that day each time, up until only needing 1. This post restriction is effective until you die (but all fines will be removed the following business day).
Also, why do you have to find a way to believe that town has a chance to win? It should always be assumed in any nonbastard game that their is always a chance for town to win. You should have been more focused instead on finding scum, as that will obviously help town win.
When I get time tomorrow, I'll do an activity check on everyone.-
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Ludi
Tajo
Though, I'd be willing to put anyone under 1.3 posts in place of Tajo.
694 total, 26.6 total avg and 1.7 posts per day avg
First number is total posts (before my last post), second is posts per day
populartajo 20 1.3
Yosarian2 55 3.6
Lady Lambdadelta 44 22.0
ooba 19 1.2
bvoigt 25 1.6
DrippingGoofball 86 5.7
Fritzler 21 1.4
Nobody Special 26 1.7
Flameaxe 28 1.86
Dry-fit 10 .6
Cobblerfone 43 2.8
ThAdmiral 19 1.2
Herodotus 34 2.26
Chronopie 17 1.13
Tanarin 14 .93
Magister Ludi 46 3.06
Porochaz 37 2.4
Battousai 31 2.0
Zdenek 21 1.4
Seraphim 8 .5
Bunnylover 10 .6
springlullaby 30 2.0
xvart 22 1.4
Katsuki 18 1.2
Cecily 6 .75
RaudhrGarm 4 .2
Game Start May 22, for Lady June 4th, for Cecily ended May 30th
Those under 1 post a day:
Dry-fit
Tanarin
Seraphim
Bunnylover
RaudhrGarm
Under 1.3, but at least 1:
Tajo
Ooba
Thad
Chrono
Katsuki
Those who should be prodded:
Raudh (Did he flake out, his last post was BEFORE Cecily? To anyone who has been prodded this game: Do you have to respond in thread to avoid replacement or can you just reply back?)
Katsuki
Xvart
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xvart- You think Ludi wouldn't be recruited because he put his neck out by saying that the CRs got someone they personally know is solid and have played with that player, or are 'veterans'? Which is, you know, preemptively saying don't look at the newish people (himself).
Again I ask this. To anyone who has been prodded: Do you have to respond to a prod in thread or can you just send Flay a PM?-
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Flameaxe wrote:@Batt: You consider chrono's calling DGB town and sheeping a vote reasonable at an early point in the game. The only problem with it is that I don't see where it happened in early game, as I said above. The sheeping of the vote happened on monday, and chrono was not voting in any votecount up until the last votecount (votecount 10).
??? When Did I say?
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Tanarin wrote:I'm no liking how thAdmadral is suddenly changing up HOW he is calculating his list based on "weight". Notice how it basically made it so Chrono would HAVE to be lynched by his logic. This is AFTER people were deciding that xvart may indeed be a good lynch. Cult looking for a myslynch? I think so.
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This post is less scummy, more, well, wrong?
If thAd is a recruit, then he would be interested in ANYONE ELSE being lynched. He wouldn't try and alter the list to get someone lynched over another (unless it's an outted unrecruitable). If anything, him making a list is scummy not altering it.-
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Vote: Tajo
Other suspects don't have support...
971 total, 35.9 avg and 2.0
Porochaz 53 2.6
DrippingGoofball 113 5.6
Andrius 2 1
Chronopie 22 1.1
Magister Ludi 60 3.0
Yosarian2 75 3.7
Katsuki 22 1.1
xvart 34 1.7
Fritzler 29 1.4
Seraphim 14 .7
ThAdmiral 43 2.1
Battousai 39 1.9
Lady Lambdadelta 70 10
Zdenek 24 1.2
bvoigt 34 1.7
Bunnylover 16 .8
Cobblerfone 53 2.6
populartajo 45 2.2
Herodotus 46 2.3
Tanarin 18 .9
Flameaxe 43 2.1
ooba 24 1.2
Nobody Special 36 1.8
springlullaby 34 1.7
Dry-fit 12 .6
Cecily 6 .7
RaudhrGarm 4 .2
Game Start May 22, for Lady June 4th, for Cecily ended May 30th, for Andrius June 10th, fir raudh ended June 9th
Those under 1 post a day:
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xvart- Tajo has the most support out of all of my suspects, so of course I'm switching to him. I don't find xvart scummy and chrono has an excuse for his inactivity, unlike Katsuki (hint).
1 post a day is borderline active lurking as I think someone should at least be able to post twice a day at least half the day (1.5/day). Others have less time so I knocked it to around 1.3. Take into account the average right now is 2 posts a day, 1.3 is lacking. You can use anything you want, as I leave all the info up there, to determine who you feel is actively lurking/lurking.
DGB- When he's cult recruited in a game where the cult recruiters are whiteflag'd treestumps, and there are no scum factions, he posts just like this But please note that since I started calculating posts per day averages, and keep track of the less posters, he has jumped from 1.2 posts a day to 2.2 (if he knows you know his meta, he probably would change once he thinks people notices).-
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1) Tajo won't get lynched if you get unvote him...
2) We will have plenty of deaths to go on tomorrow, plus 2 new recruits and have connections/change of play to notice so it's not an excuse for information
3) Voting someone you think is town just because there is a slim chance that they might be scum is just wrong.
I'm keeping my vote on Tajo unless NS or maybe even Ludi get run up.-
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I don't understand the whole mentality this game that, we must lynch today. We have a 2/total players chance of eliminating a CR. That is very, very small. Add to the fact the lack of buddying, and associative tells, we stand worser than random chance of correctly lynching. If we mislynch, then we gain no information. None. Maybe a bit of "Confirmed town thought x was scummy for y reason," but still, I trust my own scumtells than someone who was thought scummy enough to get lynched. If we no lynch, via not reaching majority lynch, we still gain the night information of vig kills and any other town PRs. Yes, tomorrow will be similar to today, but that is regardless of whether we get a lynch through. I believe everyone should just be willing to lynch their biggest suspect or at least their second or possibly third biggest, not someone because they have the best chance of lynch. That is asinine. You are all still in the mindset of lynch > no lynch D1. That's true, in most circumstances. It's not applicable here when there is only 1 scum on each side, and we know they won't be killing town today (they need to have at least 2 scum on their side for safety), so what we gain are the town PR information and a teammate for the scum to better our chances. The only reason to lynch is if you are really do believe that the person lynched has a great, great, chance at flipping scum.
Anyone who switches to xvart (or anyone else) because they want a lynch and not because they think they have a high chance at flipping scum, will be scummy and will waste town power on themselves, because it is scummy. Not pro-town.-
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Poro- We also have a chance at winning the lottery... You should only vote for a wagon if you believe the wagon will flip scum, not to avoid no lynch.
Yos- Since each side only has 1 scum, we lose a bit of tells. Combine that with the scum being able to manipulate us (as in, town at best has random chance at lynching scum D1), it's at a lower threshold. Also, please explain to me how not removing a town player from the game (mislynching) will make it easier for scum to fulfill their win condition than if we do mislynch?
Ludi 1161: Exaggeration or have you dropped me as a suspect, since I'm not on the xvart wagon?
As I said, vote is not moving. Tajo is scummy. Xvart/Chrono, I'm not confident in.
Seraphim- Reason for the xvart vote? Do you find him scummy? why?
Also, I wouldn't suggest making your moving plans public. The cult may be able to use their powers on the building and not just a player.
Kat 1189- That's hilarious. Thinking you can get us to lynch someone by not participating. All that joke needs is a bar or a donkey and it'll be golden.
Yos- tsk, tsk, tsk. Already distancing yourself from the lynch while helping it go through.
Since Yos has more votes than Tajo here, I'm willing to switch. I've been getting a null feel for Yos, but that post just screams scummy.
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DGB 1205- Unfortunately, one of my many, many powers is not N0/day investigation. I think the case on him is weak, and I have him down as a null tell. I'm not confortable lynching someone who has no better chance at flipping scum than random.
Yos- This is what you said in 1194 "If it's the only way to make sure we don't no-lynch, I'll move my vote over to chronopie tomorrow, but I don't like it. I really don't think he's that likely to be scum here." I must have misread that to thinking you meant xvart, but the point will stand if you switch to Chrono before deadline.
Yes, you are right about the cult thing, but my point is that you shouldn't join a wagon on someone you feel is likely to flip town or you have a null read on. Yes, there is a chance at eliminating a scum team, but if your read is null at best, the chance is severly hampered from that players POV.
unvote, vote: Ludi
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Ooba- I am compromising. NS is my top pick for scum. But there's little support there. That's why I'm compromising to Ludi who is a suspect, AND has a chance to be lynched if there is enough support. I would rather there be no lynch than to lynch town. In a cult game, the more townies we kill, the weaker we become (obv). Lynching at random is completely anti-town right now (in context of against no lynching). With cults in the game, we know that any townie that is mislynched, will gain us no information for tomorrow. A lynch today is like trying to win the lottery, in the fact that pay out is huge (removal of a CR), but if we fail we loose that $5 we spent on the ticket, and baby needs a new pair of shoes right now. I'm not willing to vote someone I have a null reading on just because there is a random chance they flip recruit. The cost is pretty steep.
You basically want to lynch a null read just because you want the chance to eliminate a faction. That's wrong. Don't be surprised that I now find you scummy, unless you can give me a case on why you think Chrono is scum (link if you've said already if you want).
I'm not moving my vote unless NS/Ludi/Tajo are on the block or I find someone who is scummy from now till deadline. I don't care what any of you all say. Voting someone who you have a null read on is anti-town as hell right now.-
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Yos- Are you so used to using some words that you forget the meaning? How is no lynch scummy? Your entire case against no lynch is that a lynch is beneficial for the town because it can remove a scum faction, but if what I was doing was scummy then I'd be helping my scum faction. If I was scum, then I would want a lynch as long as it wasn't myself. You may call it anti-town, and I will disagree with you. I think it is the most pro-town thing to do in this scenerio. I also like how you try and claim that a no lynch would result in a repeat of today. You forget that town HAS to have some night action to remove recruits (aka vigs) or the town has no chance at winning? Hell, you even have chrono as probably flipping town, yet you want him dead (though some credit to the fact that you are next on the wagon if it fails). That's anti-town.-
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Ludi 1313- Have you been reading closely to what I've been saying? I said no lynchoverlynching someone you feel is nullina cult gameonD1.
ThAd 1324- Please tell me, in those games you looked up, how many of them was it known that there were no scum and only cult? 0? That's what I thought... Also odd doesn't mean cult recruit. It just means different. Are you going to take a stand on me one way or another, or are you going to keep being wishy-washy? If wishy-washy then move on to someone you feel is scum.
Yos 1331- Hmm. Didn't think about the whole, if we didn't lynch x yesterday we'd lynch him today. Though I disagree with the whole one day closer to losing (a mislynch pushed us, what, a day and a half closer?). Though I doubt half the town would be trying to lynch chrono because SOME people (like yourself) didn't find him all that scummy and only voted him for a lynch, which I find scummy ("why did you vote chrono" "to avoid a no lynch" -null tell which helps scum mislynch and get away with it). I don't agree with no lynching helping scum. The more townies alive, hurts scum (though admittedly, I'm not really as sure in a cult game as much as I'm sure about it in a normal game).
Vote:oobafor post 1325
You thought it was Kinetic. Ok. Tell me how you thought Kinetic tracked someone yesterday. His "ability" could be cop, role cop, watcher, cult specific/game specific role.-
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Forgot to do this…
D1 Activity:
bvoigt 43 1.7
Magister Ludi 71 2.9
DrippingGoofball 132 5.5
Yosarian2 88 3.6
ooba 36 1.5
Fritzler 34 1.4
Battousai 49 2.0
Cobblerfone 56 2.3
populartajo 61 2.5
Katsuki 27 1.1
Herodotus 52 2.1
ThAdmiral 50 2.0
Seraphim 17 .7
Nobody Special 40 1.6
Chronopie 27 1.1
Andrius 19 3.8
Porochaz 62 2.5
Lady Lambdadelta 81 7.3
xvart 54 2.2
Flameaxe 48 2.0
Bunnylover 18 .7
Zdenek 27 1.1
Tanarin 19 .7
springlullaby 35 1.4
Total posts: 1146
Avg: 47.7
Posts per day avg: 2.2
Game Start May 22, for Lady June 4th, for Andrius June 10th, ended June 15th. 24 days total, 11 days total, 5 days total
Below 1 posts per day:
Tanarin
Bunnylover
Seraphim
Between 1.3 and 1 posts per day:
Zdenek
Katsuki
Accidentally left Chrono on, but removing him now would make me redo all the averages.
Still surprised at the Katsuki average. Normal playstyle that I've seen comes off as pretty talkative.
Reading Bunnylover's posts, it seems he/she doesn't know how to play cult games like this- I really don't know why he/she joined.
I'll post more in a bit, got plans I gotta get ready for.-
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Thad-
1) Which is my point. [Putting forth something and saying it doesn't imply anything] is like pushing the spotlight on me, without putting forth a case in which you believe I am scum (your vote on me is, I agree with the wagon, which is just Ludi voting for reasons for yesterday)
2) Again, that's wishy-washy. Scummy is indictive, well scum and stupid is indictive of town.
I still believe your vote on me is very weak. You give no reasons except you agree with the wagon (what wagon, and what parts of it, spelled out, do you agree with?). I also believe that you've been doing this all game, IIRC. You don't really take too many stands. The whole top 3 scum list thing made you look like you are contributing, but you actually weren't (and were called out on it by Tajo? I believe).
I want you to start making stands on why people are scummy. Start with me if you must, but I need more from you.
Also, I finished my last thought on Katsuki. I looked at the first game I see Katsuki in (on going, but meta search will turn it up). The game has been 9 rl days and he has 42 posts (4.6 posts per day). He has not been limited, but has selectively avoiding this game in favor of at least one other.
FoS: Katsuki
Unvote: Ooba
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DGB- At least ABR has the good sense not to taunt you while he is in throttling range
ThAd- What actions do you think were scummy? Just being vague like that makes it so I can’t defend myself.
Since I’m going down this route, might as well go all the way and do a D1 ISO reading of ThAd.
0- confirm
1- fluff “who would I recruit”
2- soft defense of Ludi
3- harder defense of Ludi
4- Fluff
5- Votes me for making “wild claims” on Ludi
6- Wants people not to ignore recruiters
7-8- fluff
9- votes xvart as he is as good as any
10- reason for voting xvart is because he has most votes
11- fluff/recruitment WIFOM (abr could do this, that, or act illogically)
12-14- fluff
15- fluff/ ”if I was recruited I’d be active”
16- defends Dgb being recruitable D1/ cobbler too scummy to be scum
17- fluff/ repeat cobbler ISO 16
18- defends cobbler- too scummy to be scum, too VI to be recruited/fluff
19-20 top 3 list
21-22 top 3 list fluff
23- fluff
24-30- top 3 list fluff
31-33- fluff
34- defends RG’s inactivity as sitewide
35-38 top 3 list fluff
39- defends list/fluff/defends shitty xvart wagon (he’s a sexy recruit choice)/says list is for him, but is still voting xvart
40- fluff
41- has to strong convictions on anyone, says cult is too WIFOMy to pin down
42-43- fluff
44- fluff/defends lynching
45- Is upset xvart is waiting until now to defend himself, now that there is little other options, though claims he doesn't understand what his defense is
46-47- fluff
48- defends not unvoting xvart earlier
49- fluff
ISO 2,3,5 reads to me that you thought Ludi was town, therefore I was scum for attacking her
ISO 9, 39, 45, 48 is basically you voted xvart for being the leading wagon, then changed it later to being a decent recruit choice, then when the vote count was at 7 xvart, 6 yos, 4 chrono you decide that xvart is defending himself. You go from the leading wagon to the smallest wagon that has a chance to go to lynch (you can't be called out for wasted vote). That effectively put you early enough to be near the middle of a wagon, get off a leading wagon near deadline, and still appear to be active even though all your posts at the time were fluff
ISO 41, along with votes on chrono and xvart is just that you wanted too lynch anyone, regardless of whether you thought they were scum. I think that is scummy as hell. Apparently I live alone in an alternate universe in which scum do not want to mislynch (must resist urge to get in debate on this. Must save for postgame).
At the beginning of the game (the less dangerous time) you start off just defending people, then you post fluff and recruit WIFOM and then defend people again, then wind up just posting fluff on your top 3 list and just plain fluff till deadline.-
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Kinetic has distracted us! Let's go back to what we were talking about....
ThAd 1462- I stand by that pardon gambit. Not only did it help me get a decent read on a player (NS), but I don't see how harmful it is since the wagon on xvart was based on out of game characteristics of the player and not by what xvart did in this game. And to the second point, I did not want a no lynch yesterday. Rather I wanted everyone to be voting someone they actually thought was scum. There is a difference between that and trying to get a no lynch.
Andrius, you awake yet? The day has started.
Katsuki- I recall you stating you wanted us to lynch quickly in order to use the bankable deadlines. Tell me how your active lurking is helping accomplish that.-
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ThAd 1516- Not in this setup. I believe that if you think someone is at best null, that you shouldn't be willing to lynch them. A mislynch is even more detrimental (especially D1 when a mislynch will give us no information unlike other following days).
Andrius 1545- What, no breakfast?
I'd be happy with a Ludi lynch yesterday, though others have bumped the slot down on my scum list. I think Cobbler is lying scum, so I'm happy with that lynch. One way or another he'll die this game anyways.
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Ludi- How is someone lying about their night action less likely to be scum than DGB? This just boggles my mind why you wouldn't come right out at Seraphim when you knew he was lying.
Also, you case that cobbler is town is laughable. He's too scummy to be scum basically. The fact that you seem not to take into consideration that he was scum and made a mistake is questionable, especially coupled with the whole going after DGB instead of someone you would "know" is lying.-
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Magister Ludi wrote:To whoever asked, I am trying to get as little information as possible from Seraphim and piece together my own role with what flay is telling me (note, he is being insanely cryptic) because its rather complex if Seraphim is in fact lying and if he is and I claim I want it to be a for sure scum lynch.
So you want Seraphim to tell you as little as possible? That makes no sense. You should want as much as possible in order to trap him into a lie. Right now it just looks like you are backtracking a bit in order to give an excuse to why seraphim is town when you get him lynched for lying.
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Kinetic wrote:You know what would be smart? A mass claim. That way you guys will KNOW all the power roles, and instead of using them to help you, be so paranoid and kill them all off .
That's not a bad idea. I'll start. I'm unrecruitable, un-night killable, and unlynchable.
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