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Hell of a day, Bloodbowl tonight, and eight pages to read.
I'll read and comment tommorow.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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I'll be taking this piecemeal, kinda.
Icey.
I assume it was Kat who made the first post.
Regardless, I have trouble thinking of a town role except JOAT (Mick Foley in Lockes wrestling game), but I can think of a few third party type things. Yes, I think the third party type is more likely. Whatever, given what has been said about wincons I'm thinking townish third party (If the concept makes sense, kinda like the clerics in the previous game) I wont be voting you though, unless you get scummy. Kat is on my personal shit list.
Pine:
Pine wrote:I'm thinking Icey has some kind of ability that can only function against people who have voted for them, or something like that.
Vig please.
reasonable assumption.
pine wrote:PE: Icey probably isn't a Wizard with a bunch of powers. They're probably either a weakly-powered, high HP goon supporting the Wizards or a Third Party with unusual goals. Hell, this is Theme Park, they might actually be some form of Jester, counting on our default "lolnojesters" reaction.
Ok, expanding the Icey theory into something that appears slightly more scummy.
Pine wrote:I refuse to vote for Icey at this time, on caution that he may have an ability (or even wincon) that triggers if everyone votes for him in one day without lynch, or something crazy like that.
Ok, now expanded again to something alarmist.
Pine's case presentation here is kind of like the fortuneteller who keeps slipping the reading wider until it something clicks. Reasonable, to slightly scummy, to "My god it could cost us the game"
I don't think there's been any new informatuion about Icey's claim, except icey refusing to expand on it and claiming it's pro-town.
Actually, Pine is starting to sound like I did at the end of Stars Aligned when pushing Benmage.
Vote Pine
CMAR:
Not a scum slip imo. Looking town.
SGR:
Wine arguements, self-meta arguements.
I got no idea what to make of him yet.
ABR:
You want to run town controlled Vigging?
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Also helps if you jump from computer to computer, or post from a mobile device on occasion. Or with "I told you so's"
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Amrun wrote:I'm asking around because I want to see if others read them the same way.
I'm thinking the same thing about some of Pines posts Amrun. Though I feel slightly better that Pine claimed his mostly pointless attack and it's target.
I'm never sure about what do with what appear to be poor posts dashed off from skimming.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Feysal wrote:but it is absolutely horrible scum play
CoughSAIIICough
Though the mods not checking the thread for two days ruined it there.
Tell you what Icey.
I'll do the vote thing on you if you'll do the vote thing on me.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Been trying to catch up and reading ISO's.
Vote Beefster
Don't like the rubbish/made up case on Amrun. Circular logic indded.
Don't like that he answered questions asked of someone else. Also don't like the use of ooc tags in someone elses quotes to do it. Smacks of trying to hide comments from iso reads.
Claims reaction testing for a rubbish case.
I also think he's making up scumtells to suit who he wants to vote for. (Voting twice in a post, reading/not reading the thread)
Don't see a pro-town person behind these actions.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Beefster wrote:
Such as this defense against a load of nitpicks and misrep: (And sheeping)
Baby Spice wrote:Don't like that he answered questions asked of someone else.
#1: Quote times that I have done that.
#2: That's not a scumtell. I do it all the time.
#3: Green Jello
Beefster iso#8 wrote:
Comments in ooc. These questions are just awful. Care to ask more relevant questions?Amrun wrote:
Katy: How are Pine's huge piles of AtE making you think town?! Does it really matter? It's her opinion. If you have nothing else against Pine, you have a weak case.
Icey: One head?! Which head?! Your heads have different roles? Are you stupid? Hydra heads always have the same role
Soben: Do your heads have different roles?
I stand my ground on Amrun.
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Really? You're attacking me for THAT?Baby Spice wrote:Also don't like the use of ooc tags in someone elses quotes to do it. Smacks of trying to hide comments from iso reads.
I'll attack anyone who looks like they're trying to hide things. Scum have to hide, not town.
Beefster wrote:
Fine. I'll admit it wasn't initially intended to be reaction fishing, despite it turning out that way. I still didn't like the way Amrun reacted to my case. 'sides, cases early in the day always suck compared to cases later in the game.Baby Spice wrote:Claims reaction testing for a rubbish case.
It wasn't reaction fishing, it was reaction fishing, it wasn't reaction fishing. Pick one.
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Nah. I was pointing out tendencies. I thought it was interesting. I wasn't really planning on using it legitimately against her. (Once again, I told you it was a stretch.) Also, note where my vote is right now... Right. It's not currently on Amrun.Baby Spice wrote:I also think he's making up scumtells to suit who he wants to vote for. (Voting twice in a post, reading/not reading the thread)
Tell me again who has to fake scum hunting and make up cases on people? I forget.
Beefster wrote:
About voting twice: I forgot to unvote. What's so scummy about that?
You tell me, you're the one who seemed to vote someone for it.
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Sure. I play in a somewhat anti-town manner, even though I have town intentions. I'm still town.Baby Spice wrote:Don't see a pro-town person behind these actions.
We can only judge you by your actions, not your claimed intentions, and if you play in an anti-town manner then your anti-town.
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Not liking the nitpicking and misrep. You've been sheeping a lot, too. (Like right now)
Whom have I been sheeping?
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Beefster wrote:
It wasn't initially reaction fishing, but it turned out to elicit a useful response. As go early cases. Bluntly said, some of the earlier reasons are crap.Baby Spice wrote:It wasn't reaction fishing, it was reaction fishing, it wasn't reaction fishing. Pick one.
I like how you ignore the fact that when your reasons were called crap, you said that you were reaction fishing, then when called on your supposed "reaction fishing" you again changed.
Backtracking like that is scummy.
Beefster wrote:
I don't see your point. I have told you it wasn't intended to be used for an attack. It was meant to be food for thought. Take it as you will.Baby Spice wrote:Beefster wrote:
Nah. I was pointing out tendencies. I thought it was interesting. I wasn't really planning on using it legitimately against her. (Once again, I told you it was a stretch.) Also, note where my vote is right now... Right. It's not currently on Amrun.Baby Spice wrote:I also think he's making up scumtells to suit who he wants to vote for. (Voting twice in a post, reading/not reading the thread)
Tell me again who has to fake scum hunting and make up cases on people? I forget.
I'm sure you do.
Scum have to fake scum hunting, obviously.
Beefster wrote:
I've been doing it quite a bit in this game. I thought it was an awesome way to FoS.Baby Spice wrote:Beefster wrote:
About voting twice: I forgot to unvote. What's so scummy about that?
You tell me, you're the one who seemed to vote someone for it.
What, voting for people who voted twice?
Beefster wrote:
Doesn't make me scum, though. There's quite a difference.Baby Spice wrote:Beefster wrote:
Sure. I play in a somewhat anti-town manner, even though I have town intentions. I'm still town.Baby Spice wrote:Don't see a pro-town person behind these actions.
We can only judge you by your actions, not your claimed intentions, and if you play in an anti-town manner then your anti-town.
You want to walk like a duck, and quack like a duck, then pardon me for calling you a duck.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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^^ An item in someones possession?
I'm also thinking that Snow_Bunny has already thought of the claim plan and that there is something that counters it.
Have we really only had six people in the Iceyvote thing?I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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CryMeARiver wrote:
BabySpice wrote:^^ An item in someones possession?
What'd you mean by this BabySpice?
Just that it sounds like the jar did the Pine thing, and there are no items (ie: the Jar) available for grabbing that we know of, so I'm thinking that the jar is in someones possession.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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unvote
vote zdenek
I'm slowly getting the impression that Beefster is poor town. Bloody poor town.
Zdenek however, is making softly softly attacks on easy targets, which to me points at scum trying to not get too invested in a mis-lynch.
Beefster/Amrun for example. Vote on lurker Snake for no real reason is bad. Weak reasons on Pine when there were good reasons for voting him.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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^^ If anything, you need to pin CK's alignment to Manu_Ku's as I don't think many people at all can read CK.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Riceballtail wrote:
What reason do I have to not assume that they [mage slayers] would exist in this game? We should clearly expect two teams.
Weren't the mage slayers an SK in the first game and a third party in the second with one of those non game ending wincons?
What, in any of that, makes them a second team? Would you have called the clerics in Sit2 a second team?
Unvote,
Vote RBT
(For those who are unclear why I voted, by calling them a second team I think RBT might be one of them and that they might actually be a second scum team this game)I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Riceballtail wrote:@BS: You're implying that an SK isn't anti-town? And that the team from the second game didn't have an anti-town wincon (3 person SK team, basically)? Yes, the clerics were third party, but it didn't make them anti-town.
In the last game, their wincon wasn't exclusive like the town/scum ones are. The rules post hints at the same thing in this game. So while they may be anti-town, they aren't really scum.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Beefster wrote:
Clearly you haven't seen OoT mafia.CryMeARiver wrote:43 pages for a D1 lynch is beyond overkill for a swingy game like this.
But yes, I mostly agree.
Stars aligned III ran to about 60 pages for D1 iircI don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Ok ABR.
Why sheep me, of all people, for two of my votes, but not the RBT one?I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Beefster wrote:I'm leaning town on RBT... sorta. It's hard to tell.
Does that fence come with assigned seating?I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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One, CMAR, who the hell do you mean.
Two, my opinion on RBT is out there, accompanied by a vote no less.
Three, nice chainsaw type defense, did you mean it that way?
But since people can't understand a pithy comment:
Beefster, that comment of yours was so wishy washy as to be pointless. Hence me describing it as fence sitting.
It smacks of trying appear good if RBT flips, regardless of the flip, and that sort of fence sitting is scummy as hell.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Actually, you said his post made no sense, not that it was useless. But Beefster's post was worse that that, it was downright scummy so your lack of any real comment on it is suspicious.
However, your comment to me was an attack, containing as it did a misrepresentation.
RBT, third party of some sort.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Nice one Beefster. Quote the post where I said your post was scummy and then complain about it, not the one where I explained why I found it scummy.
"Learn to context" yourself.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Zdenek wrote:Baby Spice:
Zdenek wrote:
What makes you think that Amrun is an easier target than Beefster?
What were the good reasons for voting Pine?
Don't believe I said that Amrun was an easier target than Beefster.
Those would be the reasons I gave when I voted him.
Now, if you want to insist on asking questions that have been answered or are just about incorrect information, then just go ahead.
But please don't spit the dummy when they get ignored.
Unvote
Vote Zdenek
RBT was the, well not made up, but iffy one. I was curious if ABR would follow me onto a third wagon.
ABR, you're such an angel for sheeping me like that and making me smile. But I am curious.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Beefster wrote:@Baby Spice:
The game thread, abridged wrote:
CMAR wrote:...I really don't see anyone calling RBT town.
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Beef wrote:I'm leaning town on RBT... sorta. It's hard to tell.
It honestly surprises me that you can't go back and look at things yourself.
Nice OMGUS, BTW.
unvote(I still want Peregrine dead)
VOTE: Baby Spice
Who's up for a Baby Spice wagon?
Lolz.
Your defense against me calling your post scummy fence sitting is to quote someone else?
Sure the question was asked, not denying that.
Your answer was scummy fence sitting though, and I don't see you trying to say otherwise.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Zdenek wrote:Baby Spice wrote:
Don't believe I said that Amrun was an easier target than Beefster.
Those would be the reasons I gave when I voted him.
Baby Spice wrote:
Zdenek wrote:
What makes you think that Amrun is an easier target than Beefster?
What were the good reasons for voting Pine?
Zdenek however, is making softly softly attacks on easy targets, which to me points at scum trying to not get too invested in a mis-lynch.
Beefster/Amrun for example.
I attacked Amrun out of that pair.
So that would be you calling Amrun an easier target than Beefster, not me.
Whereas, in my opinion, your other easy target would be lurker Snake.
Zdenek wrote:
I'm at work now, so I'll put down a placeholder vote because I didn't like his most recent post, but I'll revisit this game later today.
Vote SnakePlissken
Here were your reasons for voting Pine:
Baby Spice wrote:
Pine:
Pine wrote:I'm thinking Icey has some kind of ability that can only function against people who have voted for them, or something like that.
Vig please.
reasonable assumption.
pine wrote:PE: Icey probably isn't a Wizard with a bunch of powers. They're probably either a weakly-powered, high HP goon supporting the Wizards or a Third Party with unusual goals. Hell, this is Theme Park, they might actually be some form of Jester, counting on our default "lolnojesters" reaction.
Ok, expanding the Icey theory into something that appears slightly more scummy.
Pine wrote:I refuse to vote for Icey at this time, on caution that he may have an ability (or even wincon) that triggers if everyone votes for him in one day without lynch, or something crazy like that.
Ok, now expanded again to something alarmist.
Pine's case presentation here is kind of like the fortuneteller who keeps slipping the reading wider until it something clicks. Reasonable, to slightly scummy, to "My god it could cost us the game"
I don't think there's been any new informatuion about Icey's claim, except icey refusing to expand on it and claiming it's pro-town.
Actually, Pine is starting to sound like I did at the end of Stars Aligned when pushing Benmage.
Vote Pine
First of all, I don't think this is a good point. Also, who else has arguably been alarmist over IceyC's claim:
It's not that he was alarmist per se, but that he built up from a reasonable thing to an alarmist thing.
That he escalated his rhetoric with nothing from Icey that would have supported such an escalation.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Baby Spice wrote:
So that would be you calling Amrun an easier target than Beefster, not me.
No, it's not. I never thought that I was attacking weak targets. So that is pure B.S.
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You're doing a remarkable job of avoiding the points are't you.
Baby Spice wrote:
It's not that he was alarmist per se, but that he built up from a reasonable thing to an alarmist thing.
That he escalated his rhetoric with nothing from Icey that would have supported such an escalation.
Your reasoning here is garbage because you are trying to argue that Soben didn't build up from a reasonable statement to an alarmist one, which is patently false.[/quote]
I have no idea to what you are refering. Try some post numbers or quotes to support your statements.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Beefster wrote:How many people damaged Baby Spice?
Why do you ask, because as far as I know no-one did.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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You should try voting for someone else now and see what happens in the vote count.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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SGRaaize wrote:
Baby Spice wrote:SGR:
Wine arguements, self-meta arguements.
I got no idea what to make of him yet.
Hey, Baby Spice, what do you think of me now? And who do you FoS more between Beefster and Zdenek now?
Leaning town, but that's more the impression I get from how others think. I still find you unreadable.
Lets put Beefster in the town catagory. Mostly because he admitted to having a main attack (Or what sounded like a main attack) that doesn't seem to affect undead, and from previous games and what we know of flips in this one, undead are town. Can't see any scum admitting to not being able to attack town/third party.
FOS Zdenek
I kinda like clear answers to questions. I kinda like seeing things supported by quotes. I don't mind poor thinking if someone at least tries to present it readibly. (Lord knows I do enough poor thinking at times)
Zdenek is doing none of these. not answering questions, or when he does answer them the answers on't seem to relate to the question. This I think is deliberate
Example:
Zdenek wrote:
Baby Spice wrote:
It's not that [Pine] was alarmist per se, but that he built up from a reasonable thing to an alarmist thing.
That he escalated his rhetoric with nothing from Icey that would have supported such an escalation.
Your reasoning here is garbage because you are trying to argue that Soben didn't build up from a reasonable statement to an alarmist one, which is patently false.
Don't see the relevence to Soben. Not a clear answer or not a clear thought. A quote would have been brill.
Others.
Feysal's early game reminded me a lot of him in Stars Aligned, but the last couple of posts have changed my mind.
AGOG I'm glad to see. CK3 is on my unreadable list so I'm glad to see Faraday added. I was also happy to see the mason claim. It ties AGOG to
Mana_Ku alignment wise, making CK3/AGOG more readable
I was in one game with Snake that I can think of, we were both scum and he lurked out. Added to #906/#908. I've confused people myself while voting, but that was similar names/nicknakes (Chronopie and LordChronos) Feysal and Dry-fit however. Sounds more like Snake was trying to park a vote one lurker and got called for it and backtracked. Also, being merely bruised shouldn't rule him out as a lynch candidate. FOSable
Dry-Fit however, under-posting and under-contenting. Even lampshading his under-posting (iso#3) Could happily vote/FOS here too.
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Soben wrote:inHimshallibe wrote:With no associative tells to be established how can you say someone is town but still possibly third party?
OP wrote: Roles and factions: This is a rather vanilla-less setup. All factions have a winnable condition. If a win condition is achieved, and it doesn't directly interfere with the win condition of another faction, the game will keep on. For example, if the win condition of a player is to get certain player lynched, should that player achieve that condition (and no other win condition is achieved at the same time), the game can keep on. There is at least one town faction and one scum faction. Town faction is called Sorcerers, while scum faction is called Wizards. Other factions may exist, and they may have wizards, sorcerers, or other classes.
The OP implies multiple third party roles in the setup, Iceys win condition could simply be to recieve x amount of votes during the game thus although I don't see him as scum I have no reason to vote him.
Soben wrote:IceyCupcake wrote:Your reasoning of it not being optimal is based around the belief that we may not be town.
Which, in that case, leads us back to the original of point of, why are you going to call us town if you're not willing to act as such?
I call play that I believe has no scum-motivation whatsoever "Town-tells" which I generally associate with town, at the same time given the setup style I can see possibilties of you being third party/alternate faction with the risks of voting you being severe.
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Implosion wrote: Basically, if Soben thinks Icey is town, Soben has little reason not to vote Icey like Icey asks because Icey clearly has reason that they can't reveal for asking for votes. If Soben's reason not to vote is the stated above, then I've debunked that. If it's because Soben isn't sure if Icey is town, there's still little reason not to because Soben has a townread on Icey, meaning it's more likely that there will be positive effects from voting Icey than negitave effects.
You really want to continue pushing this? I see the possibly of roles such as a cult-recruiter who is only allowed to recuit if he obtains x number of votes a day in the game thus there are indeed risks to voting him while no risks in not doing so.
Quoting in context is good btw.
First post, see's Icey as third party and wont vote for him as Soben sees it as risky.
Second post, calling Icey third partyand see's voting for him as risky.
Third post calls Icey third party and points out a specific case as an example of why voting for him could be bad.
There's no escalation there. Unlike Pine who was acting all Chicken Little. There's specific answers to specific questions/posts from different people. It's way different. Especially when you take it in context.
Zdenek wrote:Why are we still FOS'ing? Gaggle voted and unvoted successfully.
Maybe we should conduct a second test and have everyone vote/unvote you then?
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WC, you do realise that if Beefster has done anything with his targeting stuff of the last few pages, it was to pretty much confirm himself as town.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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A Gaggle of Geese wrote:You may be right about bunnylover.
except for the part where we roleblocked her last night and she still claims an action that worked
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Would that be the last night where it appears that the targeting was all over the place?
What I mean is are you sure you RB'ed Bunnylover and not someone else.
Come to think of it, Beefster, did you target me yesterday or last night because you haven't actually said and it seems that it was only the night actions that went askewI don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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That's not what I meant.
If the targeting is off, as people are saying it was for last night, are you sure of who you actually targeted.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Katy wrote:Last night I targeted Amrun. My action hit RBT instead. It should be pretty clear what I did.
So, can you say ifyouraction actually hit Bunnylover, or if it hit someone else.
especially given:
OP wrote:-Field effects:-During each cycle of day/night, a special effect will be all over the game. This special effect affects all players and all actions, unless otherwise noted. These effects may range from increase damage from spells, negate certain type of actions, create post restrictions, modify the current HP of players, etc, etc, etc. You won't be told which effect is in place.
we can't even be sure if the random targeting was caused by scum or the game. (ie: If you could have blocked it if it was something that Bunnylover did)I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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IceyCupcake wrote:Hey beefster, you suck at scum.
Just sayin.
It's a good thing he's town then.
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Never said smart or intelligent. No offence Beefster.
That whole attack on me thing. With undead being on the side of the sorcerors I fail to see how any of the scum would have an attack that couldn't target undead.
It proves nothing about me to be fair, due to the mass redirect, but Beefster's reactions and comments at the time feel genuine and I think pretty much confirm him.
I can understand Beefster's thinking there. He's wrong, but I can understand it. He's gotten it into his head that Bunnylover and AGOG are a binary town/scum pair because of the roleblock thing. But SnowBunny's correction shows that they're not. I wouldn't go as far as to say that it confirms them both (Bunnylover and AGOG), not without a lot of thought anyway, but it does also head that way.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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SGRaaize wrote:lol, either the field effects stack, or the whole claiming thing is overall.
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Kind of curious that you forgot that one of the extreemly few votes today was AGOG voting for you Bunnylover.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Today as in Day2.
We had two votes total, surely you would remember that one of them was on you, and as far as we knew couldn't be removed.
I just found it curious.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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IceyCupcake wrote:You have no idea how badly I'm down with a mod lynch today. Maybe it'll make all of this horrible nonsense go away.
I wonder if someone could target the mod with an insta-kill?
But slightly more seriously, FOS count?
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Vote IceyCupcake
Buff really, but also a justin casey test.
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Gandalf's roleblock comment is right weird.
That sort of quick retraction makes me worried. Like he did something that he now thinks he shouldn't have been able to do due to Icey, and I really can't think of a town reason for that.
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Icey, if you still believe Gandalf to be town after that twilight roleblock action/claim, what am I missing?I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Icey, what did you roleblock or was it general?
Because gandalf and now Bunny claim not to have been RB'ed.
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Feysal, not undead (At least how I would catagorise undead) but not alive either.
I'm hunting someone. I wont say who, beacaue I don't want to warn them, but given fluff, I believe the person I'm hunting is anti-town.
I can investigate to find that person.
N1, my investigation got redirected to Mana-Ku. This was specified in the result. (I tried to target Beefster)
N2 my investigation was redirected to Katy. This again was specified in the result. (I tried to target SGR)
Twilight1 and T2 investigations went though on the targets I tried for. This again was specified. (Neither Feysal nor Inhim were the person I am looking for. imo this has no bearing on their roles/alignments)
N2 we got mass redirected again. (Sorry Icey, it turns out that I'm immune to your roleblock, hence my questions
Plus side though, Icey goes into the town pile.)
Which makes me think that Katy wore two night actions that were directed at other people. An insta kill and the removal.
Why do this? Must admit to spending a bit of time thinking about. I think the sorcerors need to know that the redirect happened. (Besides, if they keep dieing like this, I'm worried the game will end before I find my target)I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Yes, both nights, and though I wont say why, I know why the mass RB wouldn't have worked on me.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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WC ??
Peregrine, afaik, no. Purely dependant on my target.
Spyre(?) asked fluff? OP's, RPM, and personal knowledge (Which is possibly out guessing the mod)
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Snow_Bunny wrote:If a win condition is achieved, and it doesn't directly interfere with the win condition of another faction, the game will keep on. For example, if the win condition of a player is to get certain player lynched, should that player achieve that condition (and no other win condition is achieved at the same time), the game can keep on.
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Feysal, I think you're wrong on SGR. With the wine that he has introduced, he kinda does have to die. If only because the scum can use him as a distraction. But by vigging (or attacks in this case), not lynching.
If we do it that way then the scum can't use him.
But I think you're right on PeregrineV.
Helloooo, Vaya. Five posts in two weeks?I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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I'm still curious about the lack of Vaya action over grabbing an item. and the lack of Vaya response.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Vaya, firstly, is it a end the game type of wincon, or similar to the priests wincon from the previous game (ie: point score at the end of the game), and it wouldn't have something to do with loot would it?I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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WrathChild wrote:PS, Baby Spice is not our alignment. In fact, I don't there is another non-scum alignment besides ours, unless there is an SK.
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Hi.
If I was an SK I would have like, killed someone. Not claimed every action so far, including showing how N1 and N2 redirects/whatever's actually happened! Especially when there was no need to claim.
Also, I do believe that the AP has confirmed that they are a points based faction, and from the last game the points based factions win or loose depending on those points regardless of town/scum win.
THE AP DON"T CARE WHO WINS!!!
But I do see GreyIce's point about keeping the game going longer.
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Bah, WC just said what I was trying to point out
BabySpice, what do you say? Can we count on you to do as the town/adventurers wish?
Pretty much. I also need the game to last as long as possible.
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Vote Zden, he's on the likely scum list. Someone will smack PV, he's also on the list. SGR will do his thing and go onto the town list (Or be shown to be lieing and go on the scum list)
That's not a bad plan.
Inhimm posted a PoE list that really only needs him moved down to unknown and SGR sidelined pending his confirmation thing.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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iirc, Bunnylover said that CSL had the same alignment as BL, when BL admitted to adding CSL into the game.
"Yes, I added CSL into the game, and the mod told me that he was of sorceror alignment (he actually said of the same alignment as you)"
Which actually doesn't clear BL at all but would be a risky move if CSL is scum.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Grey: I have targeting limitations which would prevent me from targeting PV, or damn near anyone else, in most cases. I do have one one-shot area effect that has no such limitation. (The find person spell has no limitations either btw)
Feysal, I have speculated on some, or all, of the AP being scum. Specifically Vaya (A paladin would be ideal scum in a game where the undead appear to be mostly, or all, town) and Gandalf. Not that I think that that is likely mind.
Also, I was also part of that cult faction in Stars Aligned III, and Feysal was pretty good at the analysis part and planning part.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Fine, mass claim request if you want. Come to think of it I already have. But for gods sake don't push it so far that people get killed. Sure as he'll Murphy's Law will make those people town and win the game for scum.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Ther's four of them (we think), they earn points for various things, enough points when the scum or town win and they also win.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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I'm starting to think that Snow Bunny should have ended the day with the mod kills.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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IMO, myself, the AP, and probably AGOG should grab up the items.
My count leaves as possible scum.
Bunnylover (not likely)
Surye
Inhim
SGR (awaiting possible clear)
Feysal (awaiting possible clear)
Bowser (not likely)
Inhim is dieing so:Vote SuryeI don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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