I've actually already posted this stuff, Pooky. Are you even reading anything I write?
Hez wrote:Actually, now that I think about it, your behaviour is highly suspect. You want me lynched, since you know the fail safe will screw you, but you're going out of your way to say this to me in a nice way, even though I don't have a nuke, because you know that I'm very vengeful.
Your reaction to the Fate trolling was also suspect. You just continued your little "American hero" charade while Fate trolled the rest of the town into thinking it was over.
Finally, I don't actually believe you are town this game, given that you have "caught" so many of the mafia. It's more likely you noticed that your scumbuddies were doing something in common, and called them out on it while not wanting to directly attack them for anything. You were great when I was around five years ago, but I have not seen you put up a similar performance in today's era, but I have seen you play as mafia, and you are acting in a similar way as before.
You also sound like you've given up on actually "catching" scum, as you are the last one, and seem focused on trying to maneouver yourself into a good position for endgame.
Unvote, Vote: Internet Stranger
How's that? I caught the last scum.
This is in response to IS. Originally, he had accused me and I had not voted him. Then I thought about it for a bit. And I was pretty sure I was right.
Hez wrote:Part of the reason I want pooky to be nuked is that I am currently confused and lost as fuck as to who the scum is, and I'm pretty sure gorilla feels the same. Pooky has clearly thought this through and seems to have an idea of which way he wants to steer the nukes/lynches.
If he's town, he'd be the best to decide the game (god dammit if you are don't pick me ffs)
But if he's scum, he's nuked, so it doesn't matter.
As posted already, I thought it was you. Gorilla was acting the exact same way I was -- lost and confused, yet you came righto ut with an attack in order to get someone lynched. I thought that was scummy as fuck.
Those are the key ones after LLD. They have showed that I have suspects and was not afraid to pursue them. I actually put a name down in those posts and said LOOK HERE, THIS PERSON IS SCUM, AND I WANT THEM DEAD. Not as predominant in the Pooky part, but Inhim agreed so it was just as effective. Gorilla has not claimed that he wants ANYONE dead ever since there ahs been 1 scum left. He has actively avoided pissing people off (and now that you have alcohol in you I am pretty scared for my life)
Before LLD -
How about my catchup wall on June 20th?
Hez wrote:Okay time for my catchup.
Townread on Hinduragi #50.
Magister Ludi #55 is actually a really good post. Not sure how I missed this the first time around. But he's right.
Magua #70 is consistent with what his position on me later on -- he thinks "people are going to be much better with using their nukes
once they have their reads established". I'm thinking that if he had attacked me it would have been very hypocritical. He didn't.
Consistency is town.
Gamma's #99 and subsequent attacking of me is just idiotic.
Posts like Magua #101 are being really helpfulw ith town. However, I recall a recent game I read that I was not in where Magua was
really helpful as scum and used that to become the sole survivor (was this RC's game?). So I'm definitely not giving him anything
for that.
AurorusVox #104 - it might be best to let scum have sub, eh? Good for you, AV. To the scumpile you remain.
Seriuosly though Magua #107 ... his posts are SO GOOD and he's not leaving ANYTHING OUT. he's making it very difficult for scum. I
just can't possibly see Magua as anything but TOWN.
I've become so calm lately and then I read Spyrex #174 and I want to completely F#@$#@% NUKE HIM AGAIN. Okay, dude. I take policy
lynches REALLY PERSONALLY so lay off please.
Spyrex #183 also makes me very angry.
townread on Regfan #220. A lot of his post is speculation on what the mafia would do. I see two possibilities -- he's thinking this
through as a townie trying to use the mindset of mafia OR he's mafia and has already thought this through. Given the degree of
analysis (ie. not much, but enough ... suggesting he's come up with a few nuggets but isn't spouting the full-blown analysis of his
scumbuddies) I'm inclined to go with the former.
LLD #233 - but this does not make inhim scum. Sure as hell sounds like something I would do =D
AurorusVox #236 - fake analysis. ranking several power roles isn't going to make you likely to get anything except probably the first.
Mina #241 - the brackets are good analysis. very useful information for later. Swift Justice #244 helps to support a Mina-town read
for the moment.
HOWEVER I do have suspicion of Swift Justice from the bottom several posts on Page 10. He spends an awful lot of time clearing people
as town. I could see it as these people being town while Swift Justice-scum makes legitimate "reads" on them. Gets credibility for
being right, and uses it to his advantage later. I feel that a town player would make some scum reads as well, rather than just
randomly get in people's good books for calling them "town". Scumread.
Also don't like Swift Justice #257's FOS on Mina. It's a dumb reason to give someone a finger of suspicion.
...though it appears it was a joke. Hm.
dana is obv scum though. #259. so fake. so forced. so....scum!
Toasty #284: copout. Playstyle?
Gamma #307 - your defense of dana is noted.
Mina #308 is TOTALLY LEGIT. (read the attempted breaking strategy)
Alright. Anyone who hints at Mina being scum from here on out goes on my scumlist.
Mina #310 - why is Katsuki town? I have literally no read whatsoever at this point.
SpyreX #312 - at least he's not going around calling me scum. That would make him look really bad in my eyes.
On the other hand baesd on this post the probability of me nuking him has gone down a bit.
(now that I've, like, made proper reads and stuff)
MAGISTER LUDI #337 -- FUCK THIS IS BRILLIANT. I swear I thought of it first. At least, in my reread
because I don't remember this post. But it is EXCELLENT. TOWN! YOU AREN'T LETTING SWIFT JUSTICE HIDE.
seriously i want credit for this too.
And I don't like Swift Justice's reply. #347 especially.
(though, game aside, I agree meta-wise with #353. hate that)
SpyreX #355 is scum though, because I don't agree with his "Toasty you've got potential". I didn't see
much in Toasty #354 that suggested he was useful, or coming up with anything remotely groundbreaking.
Katsuki #357 (why am I asking you all the questions?) - MoI's scum-meta. Less contributions? Is that
how it works? I've played with Town-MOI who contributes a lot. A helluva lot.
and ugh you write things when you're angry sometimes, and reread them later, and just shake your
head. But AurorusVox #369 ices the cake as scum. The RAGEPOST comment is just "i'm going to bait you,
and then accuse you of something that's easy to do but since i've baited and questioned you it will
make it seem like i came to a conclusion rather than a blatant accusation"
Why the hell isn't AV being lynched?
...and yes, the rest of it was F#*$#$ BAITING. DIE SCUM DIE. OH MAN WHY ARE WE NOT LYNCHING
THIS DISGUSTING DIRTY SCUM?
...man I gotta stop reading my angry posts. They are making me angry.
Magua #394 is either scum or completely and utterly unable to read me. Will refrain judgement for now.
On the other hand I'm convinced Gamma actually does think I'm scum. #408. Town read. No nuke for you, gamma.
...yeah I don't nuke town. Sorry. My reputation would be shot if I did.
SOCIOPATH #416. WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT MINA? GUESS WHAT? THIS IS TOWN. BUT YOU, SOCIOPATH, ARE DEATH SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM.
(Am I provoking an actual sociopath here? :S)
<3 IS #419. Nominate for Scummy "being generally awesome"
RedCoyote #424 -- 1) raises an excellent point about Magua that was probably worth bringing up. Townpoints to Magua.
2) Critique of Mina #36 is highly opportunistic. It's a very easy criticism to make (esp given that MINA IS REALLY TOWN YO
PLZ SCUMHUNT FOR REAL) [[[also a good chunk of this post is critiquing Mina . See above. Mina is obvobvobvtown and he's critiquing
opportunistic garbage]]]
Though RedCoyote #432 against AurorosVox makes me happy
What's with SDC's #463 reaction against MoI? o_O
AurorusVox #484 @Magna Part 2 is WIFOM -- Yes, it benefits town, but that doesn't mean scum won't take it for the exact same reasoning
you just mentioned. (though Magna #485 states exactly this)
Agree with Katsuki #489 (the pact dealy). SDC is town.
I don't understand ToastyToast #492's case on IS. At all. Is it a joke or real?
SocioPath distancing from RedCoyote #495. Not sure what to make of this given RC's flip.
Seriously, IS deserves a scummy for being entertaining. @498
I _STILL_ Agree with LLD's #508. One of SDC/IS/Pooky is likely scum. Unfortunately, I have no freakin clue which one.
I love MoI's posting. #514. I hated it in Open 302. In Open 302 he was town. IGMEOY MOI. (though I'm staying the hell away from
any actual accusations because I'm too scared to be wrong twice)
I like LLD #529. It's not only a pro-town statement to make, but the context and choice of words reads legitimate.
Pooky giving IS a run for his money in entertainment.
Mina #564 --- Mina is so obviously town it hurts me in places it would be inappropriate to mention. Especially the line about Vi
in this post. This is completely and utterly genuine scumhunting. Once again, anyone who suggests Mina is scum should probably be
nuked on sight.
However. Magua #567 -- I do not share his Toasty read.
AV #570 - no you were baiting. continually asking questions in an attempt to make me look worse.
AV #571 - This sounds like scum admitting town is town. (ie. AV admitting Toog is town)
SpyreX #574 --- AWWW <3 I won't nuke you promise. (then again I promiesd I would nuke you so YOU'RE TAKING A RISK SPYREX)
ooba #580 - why isn't ooba contributing more?
Regfan #586 - as much as Regfan is defending me he could definitely be scum from this post :S But this hinges on AV being scum
as well. Also, I don't claim to be able to read Regfan well. So null for now. His scumlist is fine but Regfan is able to legitimately
scumhunt while still being scum, as witnessed by my previous game with him.
Magua #595 is the most hilarious thing ever. My scumhunting is that bad, eh?
AurorusVox is SO SCUM OH MY GOSH PEOPLE WHO VOTED THE OTHER GUY NEED TO DIE NOW.
SpyreX #599 -- the word "protip" also makes me angry, fill with rage and nuke happy. I hope you're watching out for yourself, because
I may not be.
Okay fine Regfan #608 you are town happy? (the defense of me is just too solid)
...but then you vote for RedCoyote. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Null read again. I want Regafn to be town I erally do but that
might cost me the game again.
Response to AV #609 ... when someone is mad, they don't care for "logic". You want to push someone who is mad and you will get a
response. What you do with that response determines YOUR scumminess, not mine. It's spelled B-A-I-T-I-N-G.
As said earlier Gamma is town because of #620 and the subsequent one where I am convinced he actually thinks I'm scum.
The irony is that I _still_, even in this reread, don't have a read on Magua (response to AV #623)
LLD #627 ... Going to let other people read Regfan. I want to believe he's town, because his defense of me seems legit, but meta tells
me to beware as he's very good scum.
SpyreX #646 glad you FINALLY admitted it was self-preservationist. what took you so long? (also IS #648 is WAYYYYYYY more chaotic
than me, fyi)
pooky #659 - people need to listen to posts like this. AV is a french whore, dammit!
---RC has flipped as of when I am at his catchup #676 so I obv won't be commenting just reading it---
However, now that we know RC is scum. Who started his crappy wagon? (being the person who was wagoned counter to AV before dana I
quite agreed with RC's logic. Let's see who didn't)
MoI and inhim? Well, MoI and I never see eye to eye... -_-
...Yeah sorry inhim. You're scum. #695 (and it's so unfortunate given that SEE MY SIGNATURE)
---holy crap I've got 6 pages to go and SpyreX is dead. holy crap will post in morning ---
*sigh* MoI #700 is just MoI's way of scumhunting. MoI looks for contradictions and inconsistencies, which are nice, yes, but that
doesn't always indicate someone is scum -_-
But I'm placing most of the blame of the RC wagon on inhim.
Agree with MoI #739 logic of nuking SocioPath.
Scumread on gorilla #759 - for fencesitting earlier on with Hezwavre. Also, for asking RC a leadign question (dude the answer is
obvious his reads changed) in order to justify his existence on the wagon.
...and Ludi is just really good at erading people. Ludi is twon town town.
Swift Justice #822 is interesting. It's too bad I have the opposite read you expect me to have ie. SJ scum LLD maybe-town so your
refusal to answer her questions makes you look TERRIBLE.
----it is now Day Two----
Gamma #855 --- the AV vote in that post is separate from my commentary on SDC/IS/Pooky. I was just not very good at making it obvious.
#863/#864 - I did not understand what MoI was saying. I asked for clarification. Any questions? Oh wait, both of you are scum.
Lady LambdaDelta has great reads ... in other words, I agree with them ... in other words, given my track record recently, they are
probably wrong
danakillsu #866 -- lets not make TOWN waste a nuke? wtf is this?
I'm not going to be posting scum and town lists though you can figure it out based on this post. I don't want to make life easy
for the Europeans (ie. to make it simple for them to figure out whether they need to kill me or not)
Speaking of good reads from people to trust. Mina is god. Let's finish what we started yesterday. Vote: AurorusVox
Don't screw it up this time people.
with subsequent reads:
Hez wrote:Actually it's moer beneficial to me if I have my reads in a place I can refer back to them later. So here they are for the skimmers:
Reads for my own use:
Sole Survivor in a Nuclear Holocaust would make me so happy aka. uberTOWN: Mina
Town: Hinduragi, Gamma, Magister Ludi, SDC, Toogeloo
Leaning Town but verdict still out: LLD
I can't read this mofo: Magua
I want to say Town but I'm afraid of making that mistake twice see Open 302: Regfan
I'm not even going to try and read him see Open 302: MoI
Scum: AV, Swift Justice, danakillsu, SocioPath, inhim, gorilla
(All others null)
Oh look six scum. How convenient. I'm not goign to pretend I have all of them right, but this is a good jumping-off point.
Funny how the one I got right is the one that stumped everyone else.
I was even attacking gorilla. Here's June 21st in response to gorilla:
Hez wrote:
1) This is really, really noncommittal. It's like you want to accuse someone of misrepping you but you do it in such a passive way that it's clear you care far more about your image than finding scum.
2) See #1. Except the "gosh darn slow" bit. You're blaming yourself so that no-one gets mad at you.
3) A non-nuke claim is not going to save you.
Very very image-conscious gorilla. Very likely the SK.
AV needs to be lynched though. Where are you mina?
How about my attack on Swift Justice on June 23rd?
Hez wrote:First, it really seems like there are many better ways to spend your time than on someone who is very unlikely to be lynched today, such as myself. This reads as a scum trying to look useful. Lots of fencesitting
("HezLucky is not the target for today but maybe I'll pursue him tomorrow"), and a lot of uncertainty for an "analysis" that is that long (Hez didn't have a read of RedCoyote -- which is obvious, because RC had flipped midway through my read so I did not bother)
"but I won't hold it against him" -- aka. "I'm not sure whether or not this is going to go over well with the rest of the players in the game, so I'm going to refrain from attacking him ... also, the case with Hez/RC is weak and I don't feel like getting
called out on that today. I want to look useful not scum."
Basically, I question the motivation behind doing a reread specifically on someone who is at no risk of getting lynched today but who was under pressure yesterday. It seems like Swift Justice has been skimming the thread, thinking "oh that hez guy had some
pressure on him yesterday, let me do an analysis of him to make myself look useful" and not realizing that I am under virtually zero pressure today and thus an analysis of me would be quite useless.
SJ also reads like he/she's scared to say anything definitively bad about me, but is leaving just enough space to be able to wagon me later if the opportunity arises (and it won't - but skimscumSJ doesn't know that)
On July 1st, I gave my reads. This is essentially what gorilla has AVOIDED doing. Gorilla has avoided actively calling anyone scum, in order to not piss people off. Yet I gave my reads.
Hez wrote:Gonna give my reads here.
danakillsu - Leaning scum. Could be completely useless and idiotic town. Glad he's out but I doubt he'll be replaced given night will
coincide with him not being here.
gorilla - Leaning town. Could definitely be scum but I would like to see others go before.
HezLucky - can't read this guy.
Hinduragi - Likely town. Don't think he's scum. He won DEFCON1 because he nuked scum early.
inHimshallibe - Possible scum. Don't want him living too long but he's not worth getting rid of yet.
Internet Stranger Zhero - Possible town. Or very good scum. SOMEONE from the scum must have nuked a buddy to look really good. Could be IS.
I don't want him alive as the last person but many many more people are scummier.
Lady Lambdadelta - Quite possible scum, esp based on Hinduragi above. Needs to die tomorrow. Would be amenable to having LLD nuke me tmrw.
Magister Ludi - needs to be lynched today. Solid chance of popping up scum. But if he pops up town his reads are very interesting.
Magua - dying. Want to see his flip. I think town but not sure.
Mina - Was originally super-confirmed town but not anymore. If we go deep into this game watch out for her I don't trust her anymore.
PookyTheMagicalBear - See IS. If Pooky nukes one more scum I'm putting him as the sole survivor though.
Regfan - Scum. Though flip, please.
Screaming Death Clan (Fate & xRECKONERx hydra) - Could be scum. Unsure. I think flips would shed some light. Don't want him alive at the end.
ToastyToast - I'm more suspicious of him than most. Can live for now.
Toogeloo - Likely town. But we'll see.