Flash mafia 3 (town wins)

[Amrun]

Hi, I'm here. Semi-V/LA until tuesday evening/wednesday. Will have time to post a little, but probably no chunk of time to do a big catch up.

Feel free to provide me a summary so I can begin to be somewhat useful.

Unvote

just in case.

[Amrun]

Have fun with that. You're clearly barking up the wrong tree but I'll let you all figure that out for yourselves.

I'll read what I can, when I can, and offer what I have when I have it.

[Amrun]

That is not a scumtell.

I also will read, ut when mykonian asked me to step in, he was aware I probably couldn't catch up until Wednesday.

[Amrun]

Still v/la, haven't read. Will be all read up by tomorrow, so should I still be alive, I will share my reads tomorrow.

[Amrun]

All read up and ready to go. It will take a bit to get my catch up post together, but it is coming.

Llamarble, why would you assume farside was definitely responsible?

I do agree that she ought to out her target in her first post, though.

[Amrun]

Okay, first a coule of questions that I remember off of the top of my head:

-Fate: Why did you want to avoid expressing a clear stance on Regfan?

AGOTI: Why did you vote for farside, at the time you did? Please explain.

-Parabollocks: Who are your actual suspects?your townreads?

[Amrun]

Speaking of AGOTI, I'm reconsidering my stance on her. That vote on me is absolute shit. Also, looking at the the other Flash Mafia game she was in, she played on an overall better level of town play.

lol, i bet ppl in that game would disagree. prozac? what do you think?
anyways, how can you say my vote is absolute shit if you don't even know why i'm votin you?

is farside at l-1 yet? i wanna hammer, lol.

btw, these guys are obvtown: fate, llama, tajo

I mmessed up my question to girl. What I really was asking about was why you wanted to hammer farside.

[Amrun]

AGOTI: Null. Needs to post more.

Crypto: Null leaning scum. Where did your suspicion of Parabollocks go, crypto? Also, what happened to turn your thoughts around on GW in post 420? All of a sudden he's not mafia in that post. Why? Not much changed about his posts in that time frame. And THEN you hammer him with no explanation. Please explain your evolving read on GW. Also why did you ask everyone's opinions on AGOTI without expressing your own?

DGB: Null leaning scum. Definitely playing off meta, and lurking is part of her scum meta; I recall in Bella's Gurgi EC8, I suspected her for similar reasons, but then she started posting and ended up changing my mind. (She was scum.) I also don't like how she decides after the wagon on GW is already full blown that he is town but does not try to stop him from being lynched. Smells a little of town cred, knowing how GW would flip but wanting the flip to go through. STILL, I think she might try harder if she was scum.

Elli: Null leaning town.

Posting now because phone likes to eat long posts; will finish up in next post.

P-edit: I will look for the answer again, but I don't recall it. Not sure how you don't understand why that would be relevant to your alignment.

[Amrun]

Farside22: town. Never understood the wagon on her in the first place.

Fate: Townish. I actually can't remember why I wanted to ask him the question I asked him. I do want to ask him this, though: who did you mean would be "confirmed scum" if GW is town in post 406?

Llamarble: Null leaning town. I found his early game town but his re-entry after a bout of lurking a bit opportunistic. Question: Why didn't you include Untrod Tripod in post 74?

Parabollocks: Scum, scum, scum. From his opening post to his final post, all scum. Unspecific ton reads are almost as bad as unspecific suspicions. When he comes back from lurking, he focuses on the top two suspects, voting the one with the biggest wagon, and entiely ignores everyone else - until he takes a pot shot at DGB and makes the dumbest vote ever. Unlikely they are scum together based solely off of this one post.

Populartajo: Town.

Porochaz: Townish. I wasn't a fan of his complete lack of content (funny as his non-content was), but when he finally started providing it, it was okay.

Regfan: Null leaning town. This isn't a super strong read, but I see no particular reason why Regfan would be scum - a couple of things I could point out, I guess, but overall, I am not worried about this slot.

Ythill: Town.

VOTE: Parabollocks

I didn't miss anyone, did I?

P-edit: Fate, don't be an idiot. I was obviously going in alphabetical order. Llamarble is in this one.

With farside's info, I'd still like Llamarble to answer my questions and respond to all of this.

[Amrun]

Not sure why Llamarble would state that we should lynch whomever farside blocked - and didn't you disagree there, Fate? - if he knew he had been blocked (or suspected he had been). Except for wifom, of course - but how likely is that here?

[Amrun]

Not sure why Llamarble would state that we should lynch whomever farside blocked - and didn't you disagree there, Fate? - if he knew he had been blocked (or suspected he had been). Except for wifom, of course - but how likely is that here?

Lots of WIFOM.

Also you calling me town
so far every game I town you hold me questionable to scummy.

Unless you're claiming scum in [redacted] that simply isn't true. We haven't played together much anyway.

But I did realize that Llamarble's "assuming scum can't no kill" adds a layer of wifom. Who doesn't let scum no kill if they want?

Fate, I'll ask however many questions I please. If I had been arond to ask them organically, I would have.

[Amrun]

I'd appreciate it if you did answer my question, though.

[Amrun]

Then why not do it?

[Amrun]

Then why not put it somewhere else, pursue other suspicions?

[Amrun]

Crypto, please answer my questions.

[Amrun]

Where did you answer it?

[Amrun]

Crypto, that's only half of my GW question to you.

[Amrun]

Very transparent.

[Amrun]

Fuck it. My weak town read on Llamarble cannot stand up to this.

VOTE: Llamarble

[Amrun]

LLamarble: What did you think when Farside said she wanted to hammer? Was that also a minor town tell?

I didn't say "if I'm still alive" because of scum nk, which I knew was very unlikely. I said it because I was told I was being vigged and given my slot and my total inability to catch up until the night time (like seriously I read NOTHING until about 24 hours before the game opened), I thought I had a decent chance of being vigged.

[Amrun]

Not scum, not dying. Be useful, fate.

[Amrun]

You always, 100% of the time, read me as scum. I can't recall a time you ever had a townread on me that you did not incorrectly rescind. Ever.

[Amrun]

I don't remember how you read me in walking dead, so that could be true.

You were in neither of my games for team mafia.

I would just rather you be useful in this game than sacrifice your life to hammer me as town like in naruto mafia.

[Amrun]

It's annoying when you claim scum, Fate.

DGB sorry but ythill was townz.

[Amrun]

I actually like that response from agoti.

Wish she was clearer on her llamarble stance, though.

[Amrun]

Farside, are you serious? I gave reads on EVERYONE.

I don't know why everyone wants to lynch para now and ignored it when I wanted to.

But yeah, sure, I'll switch my vote back if it comes to that. He is my only really truly sure scumread.

I think ignoring the llamarble issue will cause problems later in the game, though.

[Amrun]

That is honestly one of the dumbest "scumtells" I've ever seen.

[Amrun]

I just don't. I always find Regfan kind of rambly with some grammar mistakes, for example.

I have not at all been rambling or had grammar mistakes. So I don't really get it.

If you want to see me long-winded, go check out White Flag mafia and my cases on mith and ... oh, that's right, you!

I don't get your point or how it is a scumtell is what I'm trying to say.

In this particular case, you don't like the way I accused your supposed #1 suspect for some inexplicable reason. So I just don't get it.

[Amrun]

I did not get that impression at ALL from what you said previously.

I understand that as a scumtell, at least, theoretically. I don't think it applies to me and I'd have to see a case from you to see if I agree with you about Regfan.

[Amrun]

Zoraster? What?

I do not think tajo is scum. In fact I think he is town.

I could be down for crypto lynch though.

P-edit: oh, he's replacing in.

I could also lynch that.

[Amrun]

It seemed different to me for the reasons Socio nailed (language).

[Amrun]

DGB, thoughts on similarities between tajo-poro and dgb-equinox?

P-edit:

If I'm a bitchbag then you're a douchebucket.

[Amrun]

Aw I thought I was special, Fate

[Amrun]

Fate that doesn't even make sense.

How would voting for llamarble out scum in any fashion? You did it before rb shenanigans were even claimed.

But if it's true I am cool with parabollocks slot dying. Waiting for confirmation from llamarble first.

P-edit: also I took a stance on EVERYONE. There is no waffling there.

[Amrun]

So you have daytalk?

Idk this smells of fate fake gambit.

I seriously already had a mason read on you, but it wasn't with marble...

If marble would confirm it I would believe it but not until then.
Marble didn't play like a mason.

P-edit: They're beginning of day 2 reads so what. The closest to waffling is dgb, and I don't apologize for not having the entire scumteam pinned right when I replace in.

Most games are like that, for me. Some one-offs are not - even in games like WF, where I did pin the scumteam, most of those reads except the top read (mithscum, llamatown, chrisbtown) were "null leaning x" reads too. In this game, I have a couple of totally confident reads as well. (Parascum, youtown, ythilltown). I would not be shocked if each of those three were right. I don't PRETEND to nail down every slot that way.

P-edit:

Unvote; Vote: Zoraster

[Amrun]

Fjkdjksllala cypto whyy

P-edit:

What?

If that were true, wouldn't you probably be dead, Fate?

Would the pro-town thing be to go LOL I THINK FATE IS A MASON? I 100% disagree. I thought you'd prefer to have your fun first, thought you might catch scum.

You did try. You are wrong, but you tried.

[Amrun]

Tajo's push is weird and a bit misguided.

But it reminds me of towntajo in speed mafia.

[Amrun]

Regfan, that is straight bullshit.

Parabollocks is scum. I voted for Llamarble because farside's role ondicated he was probably scum. It isn't rocket science.

When did I ever STOP saying parabollocks was scum? I waited for him to respond to me, but he flaked. There's not much I can do about that.

As for Porochaz, I said I didn't like his lack of content IN THE BEGINNING. He has content now. Why should I intently question everyone at all times? Most people didn't answer the questions I did ask to begin with.

Also I find DGB scummy but don't think she is in a scumteam with para. Looking at connections is how this game works. What don't you understand about my DGB/para analysis?

Also, hello, shafted!

P-edit: not claiming unless I am at L-1 and someone wants to hammer.

There isn't a case on me at all.

[Amrun]

Ps, waiting for intent to hammer is not stalling.

It's basic (correct) theory.

Farside: I have not been lurking and that is ridiculous. I did question how much sense it made for Llamarble to be scum, but I was understandably conflicted as the correct theoretical thing to do was to lynch Llamarble until he claimed mason.

I didn't attack crypto for HAMMERING. Of course I don't go around attacking anyone that hammers. Crypto, though, spent a long time attacking GW then all of a sudden said "gw is town" for no reason and THEN hammered gw. The flip flopping is ridiculous and his answers were unsatisfactory. Not convinced you've read anything I've written, farside.

I'm a 1-shot vigilante.have fun with that.

[Amrun]

My whole purpose in this game was to die distancing.

It didn't work.