Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm goon to need to prepare my body for another 200 page game.

I'll conform when mybodyisready.jpg

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What's this about a Freudian Slip...?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

...

Wow, that's retarded as shit.

I was phone posting. My iPhone has an autocorrect function, which corrects to commonly used words.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

BTW,

Vote: Toog

This is scum looking for a mislynch.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Black and White = 2 cult factions ?
Others = victims, must eliminate both cults ?

Vote:Vezopirika

I guarantee that there are not two cult factions.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

We do have two lynches ..

Maybe you missed the word "guarantee".

Or the Red Text.

Now, if you want to lynch Scum, you can help by voting Toog.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Votecount 1.1.1

Andrius (4) - mastin2, ToastyToast, Mr. Subliminal
vezokpiraka (1) - ooba
ToastyToast (1) - CandleJack, Andrius, inHimshallibe
ooba (1) - WeyounsLastClone
Toogeloo (1) - Nikanor

Not Voting (16) - Everyone else.

Mod, is this vote count correct?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

BTW,

Vote: Toog

This is scum looking for a mislynch.

Nice OMGUS considering I thought it was fairly common knowledge that my vote was done in jest. I even laughed about it pre-game. A little sensitive about a vote on you?

Nice excuse, scum.

A page 6 vote is "in jest"? I don't think so. You had PLENTY go on in content and wagons. A jest vote had NO PLACE in this game. This is merely your excuse to try and avoid the pressure. Sorry, you're not dodging this.

BTW, OMGUS is a buzzword used by scum to get reactions and help push a wagon.

Tell me Toog, if the vote was in Jest, who are your scum/town reads?

@Town: There needs to be more votes on Toog. He's scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD, why was your post 156 in red?

hiplop, I get seeing vezok as a dumbass, but I don't see any scumslips there.

I'm also missing the Toasty-vote logic. Seems like a bit of a townslip, if anything.

P-edit: Wow, I'm tired. There doesn't seem to be anything in vezok's post to counterclaim, and Nik's post is too rolefishy for my liking, especially since hiplop specifically said he wanted to wait before showing his hand.

Vote: Nikanor

P-edit #2: Oh hey, that's actually an excellent point.

Unvote, Vote: vezok

Oh look~! New people~!

Allow me to explain once more.

The Red is the Truth. It is a guaranteed truth. Only the truth may be spoken in red.
The sky is blue. The ceiling is up. This game will be long.

The Blue is the proposition. It is suggested, and hangs as a semi-truth, until validated or dis-proven. If nothing contradicts the Blue, it becomes truth. This occurs in the same vein that a theory becomes confirmed if no further case against it can be raised.

Therefor, I will speak only of things I know to be confirmed in RED. I rarely use Blue... but if I feel fancy, I'll do it.

The post you are referring to is my CONFIRMATION in RED that

there does not exist two cults in the Black and White lanterns.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Toog, you're acting awful serious for a vote that is "in jest".

I think by this point we can say that the "Joke Vote" defense is bullshit.

So tell me Toog, am I scum?

Cut by Vezok being creepy and Nikanor echoing me (or me echoing him, whatever).

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Could be Ice.

Ice is a black lantern in blackest night...

Deadman was a Black Lantern in Blackest Night, and became a White Lantern in Brightest Day.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Narrowed it down to 8 possibilities for the CR ...

@nopint
What are you own reasons for voting Vezok?
Why the FOS on Tantalas and Nikanor?

@tantalas
Why claim Larfleeze?

@LLD
Confirm if the Red-blue thing is a PR or something you made up.

@Nik, Friend, zMuff
I've eliminated Friend as being a CR but tougher time with Nik and ZMuff.
Any chance that the CR could be in one of you (or) can I write you off due to the Mod-PM shenanigans?
Similar on the toasty bit..

@Friend
hippo = Non CR? Can whatever you spotted be from a fakeclaim?

LLD is roleplaying. She thinks she is a goddess that has to speak the truth when posting in red. Blue is like a white faced lie. It could be true, but at the same time it could be false. It's more of a preposition.

Don't worry about that though. She always lies as scum.

I have never told a lie in the Red.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Actually, what the hell is up with the Ooba vote?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah, anyone voting Ooba needs to stop. Like, now.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I actually don't agree with the last part of Tar's logic there inHim.

Yes, the cult is balanced much better by having double day lynches.

HOWEVER;

Ooba searching for a cult recruiter and wanting the cult dead ASAP is not a scum tell for me. Sorry, I don't see the logical process in which that is exclusively SCUM.

And considering that Tar's entire case as far as I can tell is based on this point, I do not agree with an Ooba vote (especially since he's gut town for me ATM).

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ooba, you're making a rather large error in assuming that all CRs will play by the same tactics and tells you have outllined. It's like saying "All Mafia do THIS", when in reality tells vary from player to player and strategy to strategy.

Suspiciously missing on your reference list is Blackest Night.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

EBWOP: Did that game not fit into your model, so you simply ignored it? I would find it hard to believe that you "forgot" to include it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: inhim

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Toog, you're acting awful serious for a vote that is "in jest".

I think by this point we can say that the "Joke Vote" defense is bullshit.

So tell me Toog, am I scum?

Cut by Vezok being creepy and Nikanor echoing me (or me echoing him, whatever).

I don't agree with this.


Actually, considering I DO think it was a joke vote...

unvote
vote: Andrius

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Someone explain to me why inhim is town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Votecount 1.1.5

ooba (6) - WeyounsLastClone, Candle Jack, nopointinactingup, Toogeloo, Andrius, Apokalyptika

Toogeloo (5) - Nikanor, Lady Lambdadelta, zMuffinMan, Friend, vezokpiraka

Andrius (3) - mastin2, Mr. Subliminal, inHimshallibe

vezokpiraka (2) - ooba, hiplop
nopointinactingup (1)- ToastyToast
Candle Jack (1) - tanstalas


Not Voting (6) - FrozenMirror, Kast, marco1610, Ghostwriter, kondi2424, Oversoul

nopoint's #350 vote was not counted due to a lack of unvote.

You will find Red Scum on these two wagons, I guarantee.

I can't see more than 2 red scum on Ooba, so One of {Apok,NoPoint,Tar,WLC} Discounting Andrius BECAUSE

There's another red scum on Andrius' wagon. One in {Mastin, Sub, inHim}

I have town reads on Mastin and Subliminal.

So, inHim is scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That is a precariously placed VC.

This is the VC prior to Nikanor's Cop Claim shenanigans.

Which, while bagging us a scum, do very little for vote count analysis.

This is the best place to look for votes being settled out.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Votecount 1.1.6

Toogeloo (13) - Nikanor, Lady Lambdadelta, zMuffinMan, Friend, tanstalas, ToastyToast, CandleJack, Oversoul, mastin2, nopointinactingup, Andrius, ooba, Mr. Subliminal
ooba (6) - WeyounsLastClone, Toogeloo, Apokalyptika, vezokpiraka, GhostWriter, Kast
Andrius (1) - inHimshallibe
vezokpiraka (1) - hiplop


Not Voting (3) - FrozenMirror, marco1610, kondi2424

Why not use this one instead?

See above post. Nikanor's cop claim shenanigans ruin VCA usage for this.

It's impossible to tell who is bussing in this situation, especially with 13 players on a wagon.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

ooba (8) - WeyounsLastClone, Candle Jack, nopointinactingup, Toogeloo, Andrius, Apokalyptika, vezokpiraka, Ghostwriter

Toogeloo (4) - Nikanor, Lady Lambdadelta, zMuffinMan, Friend

Andrius (4) - mastin2, Mr. Subliminal, inHimshallibe, Oversoul

vezokpiraka (2) - ooba, hiplop
nopointinactingup (1)- ToastyToast
WLC (1) - tanstalas

Not Voting (6) - FrozenMirror, Kast, marco1610, kondi2424

This is a good place to look. It's everything until your vote hop OFF of Andrius and ON to Ooba, Subliminal.

Which is an interesting vote in and of itself.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

One red scum?

Because the Red scum were going to disperse on the wagons. They wanted to keep Toog, their UNCULTABLE LEADER safe, but they weren't going to ALL be on the Ooba wagon.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

But how is my vote jump "interesting"?

Also, did you just claim Daytalk with your Red buddies LLD?

What the fuck? Where are you getting this?

And also, it's "interesting". Nothing more, nothing less. Just, "interesting" at the moment.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Well, you obviously are hinting at inside access to the minds of the Red Lanterns. Interesante, no?

Uh, no.

I'm saying that by common Wagon analysis, there are a certain amount of scum on each wagon.

It's based upon a little guess work and a lot of logic.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD, you're ABSOLUTELY right.

Step 1: Name half the playerlist.
Step 2: Say there's scum within them.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit

Now go send that over to HQ and we can get a move on actually doing something useful. Like stringing up ooba_scum_Governor.

inHim is NOT scum. That's ridiculous. I mean, I know my history of reading inHim is always wrong (that one game we don't mention) his play and claim make him townier than thou (a category, not a placement).

That is a precariously placed VC.

nopoint's town, mastin. Just trust me on this one.

Shall we just write the explanation as "SECRET MASONRY STUFF" or is it just a strong read.
Because if its STRONG MASONRY then he's town and we move on with GREEN FIRE.

Because the Red scum were going to disperse on the wagons. They wanted to keep Toog, their UNCULTABLE LEADER safe, but they weren't going to ALL be on the Ooba wagon.

I mean, LLD

does

have a point but when Nik cop-claimed his shitz then you can't expect the scum to avoid the wagon HOPING BEYOND ALL HOPE that they can save Toog.
Because HOPE is on the side of GOOD and NONE OF IT IS SAVED FOR RED.

Hey Andrius? I know you're not reading now.

MAYBE you should read the post where I EXPLICITLY STATE that once Nik does his cop claim shit, VCA becomes useless.

MAYBE if you had READ WHAT I SAID, you wouldn't be making counter points that I HAVE ALREADY RAISED AND DEALT WITH.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Good God this is frustrating.

Ok inHim, question time:

Why did you believe Toog's vote was a Joke Vote?

Why did you vote Andrius?

Why did you vote Ooba?

You explicitly said you believed that Toasty's case was good and thought Toog was scum. Why did you abandon that train of thought until a cop claim came around?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Further questions will follow, pending answers from you inHim. I'm done fucking around and just giving my reads. If people are just going to brush me off like I'm nothing in this game, I'm going to have to FORCEFULLY come out and shove my reads down their fucking throats until they see what I see.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

No Andrius, I'm not abandoning this. I'm sick and fucking tired of people in games just assuming that my reads are subpar.

Fuck. You.

(insert something less mean and more patient)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ok Andrius, time to play a game then.

Mastin
Subliminal
inHim
Oversoul

One of these is red scum. Guaranteed.

I think it's inHim. You think I'm wrong.

Show me which one it is.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Semi-game related thought:
LLD dawling, how come none of your inhim stuff has been red/blue?

Because I was asked to stop by all you un-fun bastards.

(Actually I read the rules again, and Dana wants no colors SO)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

GO AHEAD NIK. I MEAN, CLEARLY I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH AT THIS GAME TO BE RIGHT.

SO WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME? YOU'RE AS GOOD AS ANYONE!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

When did Oversoul join your suspect list LLD?

When you told me to check the votes that came after Vote Count 1.1.5, but before the Nik gambit.

Oversoul voted Andrius before.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mastin and Subliminal are not more likely scum than inHim. Not even fucking close.

I'd be willing to take a closer look on Oversoul, but god dammit I'm SO SURE about inHim.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Red/Blue text isn't a softclaim silly. And y'know, outting a softclaim when you don't want to reveal it ruins the point.

Oh I think I see where I lost you.

I think she has a WL because of her interactions with other possible WL's.

Her Red/Blue unnecessary text thingy lead me to believe that she is a particular WL.

...

Fuck.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/Lambdadelta

[Lady Lambdadelta]

This Ooba lynch is bad~. ^-^

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hmmm.... that's odd.

CJ, try moving your vote?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

CANDLE JACK explain yourself now, boy.

How should he be able to explain himself? Do you assume that he moved his own vote onto Apok?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yes Tar, I'm totally scum because I want to figure out vote shenanigans.

You're the bestest~! <3

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Tar, it wouldn't matter if someone shifted your vote UNLESS YOUR VOTE WAS STUCK.

Because it's 12 to lynch, and your vote would have been the hammer, just you POSTING THAT IN THREAD should have hammered him, if your vote works.

Because even if your vote can secretly be CHANGED, it would have landed on Ooba for a split second at the LEAST and resulted in his lynch.

In other words, if your vote moves onto me, you or Ooba have some explaining to do.

If your vote doesn't move, someone froze your vote.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Since when is a Daykill like that (non-public) town?

ESPECIALLY when it's INDIGO.

I mean... INDIGO-1 ANYONE?

I did a little flavor research, and apparently the Indigo Tribe can't be trusted in Brightest Day?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

inb4 mod says flavor is just flavor.

For mastin's thing? Uh, yeah.

But the kill was most CERTAINLY done by Indigo Tribe.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh, and by the way. There's no yellow scumteam. I'm confident of that now.

If this is right, could you think there would be a Indigo scum team?

I'm telling you that Indigo is not an ally of the good guys in Brightest Day.

@Subliminal: No, I wasn't shot sweetie. If I was, I'd have an Indigo Arrow through my chest right now, and I'd be dead.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_Tri ... est_Day.22

Read for yourself.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Andrius. A NON-PUBLIC daykill.

Does that seem town to YOU?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

mastin, do you think there are any Blue Rings?

You figured it out, eh? No, I do not.

Mind sharing with the class, Mastin?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh lol.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Wait...who made WLC vanilla?

Motivator + Larfleeze stealing Andrius' roleblock.

Motivate N2 powered up the Roleblock that Larfleeze stole N1.

A powered up roleblock blocks not for 1 night, but for the WHOLE GAME.

Therefore, it essentially vanilizes the target. Larfleeze RB'd the Cult Doctor (WLC) N2, and vanilized him.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, damn we were more powerful than we thought...next time scum teammembers NEED to submit their entire role PM in QT. Toog you didn't tell us you got an EXTRA KILL.

2- Shot Vig.

2 extra kills.

You guys were NOT underpowered by ANY stretch of the imagination. ANY.

I'll note that you were in MYLO this last day. 6:2.

With those two kills (had Toog not been lynched), it would have been 4:2. Game over.