Strategy Mafia (Town Victory!)

[tclawren]

K

So I'm just going hang around the nexus for a while, with the aim of eventually being moved to the campfire or the switch. If anyone needs help being moved just ask me in thread.

more detailed post when I'm not at work.

[tclawren]

VOTE: Amrun

Words cannot describe how much I hate this post.

Maruchan is town. Your vote is terrible. I don't understand your reasoning at all.

Really like Klazam, Llamarble and NS right now.

Not liking Plum. I'm trying to figure out why people are voting LLD now. Give me a half hour.

Nothing else is coming to mind right now scumhunting wise.

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Llamarble for the security room. Good town read that has a strong grasp of the mechanics. Needs to be there soon.

The first door to be opened is the door to the electric chair obviously, with the tipping room door closed soon after.

Why is Fate in the Panic room again? And why did we let this happen? No one should be in that room right now.

[tclawren]

IGMEOY LLD, for not even saying ANYTHING about the two votes you had on you whatsoever.

Just pointing out that this is definitely not a scumtell.

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Just read the beginning again. I can see why people are voting LLD. might join wagon later.

Why are there active people not voting?

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tclawren, WHY is Maruchan obvious town? Because he offered himself up? That is 100% null.

Yeah, that's null. But his scumhunting sure isn't. Post 188 is pure townie gold.

[tclawren]

Amrun and yes...

[tclawren]

Because I realize it's a possibility that I might not get Amrun lynched today?

I'm sorry if I'm not like Internet Stranger or ABR and will tunnel my way into nothingess.

I'll stay here for a while, but if no one joins me, I will move my vote to someplace more useful.

[tclawren]

Because I realize it's a possibility that I might not get Amrun lynched today?

I'm sorry if I'm not like Internet Stranger or ABR and will tunnel my way into nothingess.

I'll stay here for a while, but if no one joins me, I will move my vote to someplace more useful.

So you're saying you think she's scum... But you won't push her wagon?

This is pretty much scum motive 101.

For fucks sake LLD. No, that's not what I mean. I'll push the lynch, but I will compromise if necessary. Please tell me this isn't a foreign concept to you...

vote tclawren

for now.

I dont want llama in the Security Room, due to tc's pushing of Llama.

Also, I'd like to know what about post 188 is pure gold.

Asking the mod a lolquestion is usually a townie thing, plus he's looking at the situation purely from a scumhunting stance. Seriously, this combined with VezoVTClaim© I don't know how you can possibly not think he's town.

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Can someone please explain to me why Andrius is town? I'm not seeing it at all.

Tcllawren's oblique attack basically made it so I won't support lld's death unless tclaw flips town. If tclaw is scum as I suspect, I don't think that was a bus.

This is soooo much scum. Chaining lynches like a mofo.

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Planning on sending this non-move for Maruchan:

Player to Move

: Maruchan

Room to Move to

: Door Control

Insurance?

: Yes

[tclawren]

Apologies everyone.

Internet went down for a couple of days. Anyone want to recap what I missed while I read?

[tclawren]

I haven't spent any chits yet. I was going to enter that one before, but I never got the chance to.

Will move myself to the party room ASAP.

[tclawren]

*sigh*

Just look at my wagon for scumz. Go town.

[tclawren]

Try again.

I'm a fucking VT.

[tclawren]

I haven't read. And if I'm dead I'm not going to. Make sense?

[tclawren]

>.>

<.<

*goes off to read up*

[tclawren]

OK.

Not much has really changed, which is quite surprising considering the number of pages that I just

skimmed

read thoroughly.

Nothing that Amrun has done is telling me that she's town. So that read still hasn't changed and I will keep my vote here.

LLD looks better now. Pains me a little bit to say that.

I don't like Plum's wall. It feels a little forced to me. I'll have to keep my eyes on her.

Iam is scummy, but I don't need to tell you guys that. Probably will be the lynch for today.

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I sent in this move

#MOVE

Player to Move

: tclawren

Room to Move to

: Party Room

Insurance?

: N

[tclawren]

@iam: who's scum? (besides NS)

[tclawren]

@naut: why is Fate town? He's incredibly null to me.

[tclawren]

sending this in then.

#MOVE

Player to Move

: maruchan

Room to Move to

: nexus

Insurance?

: y

[tclawren]

It was me. I sent it, so a nonmove must've happened.

Is there anything else that was supposed to happen that didn't or did happen that wasn't supposed to?

[tclawren]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

6. Multiple Moves: Making more than one move in a single round will double the cost of each subsequent move (e.g. moving two players in a single round will cost 3 chits total [1+2], moving yourself twice will cost 6 chits [2+4]). This includes doubling ANY move and

any insurance

. I will double the lowest costing move if the moves are submitted in one PM. Otherwise I will double the move that came second in my inbox.

I didn't double the insurance. FUck. shit. godsrhalfliasfg

[tclawren]

[quote"zor's clarification 9"]9. Nothing happens if a player doesn't have enough chits. The move just won't go through. If they needed 2 and they only have one, they'll be charged one and the move won't go through.[/quote]

I'm all out of chits guys.

Excuse me while I go punch a brick wall...

[tclawren]

Hmm. We still need to get maru in the potion room. Do we have enough chits to force iamausername in the chair, move maru, and flip the switch?

R6

Iam to Rage
Maru to Nexus
Maru to Camp
Soda to Switch
Naut to Switch
LB Opens the remaining door

(6 chits without insurance)

R7
IAM to electric chair
Maru to Tipping Point
Maru to potion room

(3 chits without insurance)

If I counted right we have 40 chits left. We

should

have enough to do everything.

[tclawren]

I really think we should wait until next round to move him to the potion room. (much less chance of mafia screwing around with the plan/ townies accidentally screwing things up.)

We're not in that big of a hurry are we?

[tclawren]

Llama- insured move to nexus, amrun- uninsured to campfire

Next round- insured to tipping, uninsured to potion

I already submitted it with insurance. :/ I don't think I can take it back, can I?

Did zor respond back? If not you can change it.

[tclawren]

I don't exactly understand what mafia was hoping or trying to gain from moving LLD out of the party room but confirmed mafia is nice to know, also

essentially clears Klazam

(Like he needed clearing). What's everyones thoughts on moving Klazam to the Panic Room for the night phase to prevent him from potentially being shot?

While I agree that Klazam is town, him catching IAM does not confirm him, in fact it's very much null.

Why do you think it confirms him?

[tclawren]

The same reason Hascow shot his teammate in Storm of Swords.

[tclawren]

ATTN: I will be VLA Saturday through Monday due to holiday activities. Please keep that in mind for moves, etc.

No one shoud vote at all until magua is fried.

We definitely have a SK, as I'm finding it very, very, very hard to believe a vig would have shot Feysal or Klazam.

After magua's dead, either Amrun or Plum need to die.

For right now the only door that needs open is the rage electric chair one. the other should stay closed until Magua fries.

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Moves that need to happen right now:
Magua to Rage.
Soda to switch.
Naut to switch.
Maru to tipping point.
Maru to potion's room.

Anything else that needs to happen now?

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Everyone one room from the rageatorium needs to unvote Magua now.

I really shouldn't have to explain this right?

[tclawren]

#MOVE

Player to Move

: Magua

Room to Move to

: Electric Chair

Insurance?

: No

I'll send this in, once someone verifies I'm doing this right.

[tclawren]

@Reg

D4. The Switch: Max 5. A player in the switch may PM the mod to "throw the switch" if there are at least two players in The Switch and a majority of players (50% 1) throw the switch that round, the person in the electric chair is executed. A new PM must be sent EACH ROUND.

from my understanding, we only need two people in the switch to electrocute someone.

@Llama

Would you rather me start to move Maruchan instead of Magua?

[tclawren]

@Reg

I can understand having more than two but having the room full is probably more wasteful than Magua fucking with us moving Naut and Soda.

What about 3?

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sent in Magua move (should be at electric chair)

[tclawren]

That's not going to happen.

People have to send in their switch votes again every single round. So if someone shows up in the Electric chair that isn't supposed to, the switch just doesn't get pushed.

Also, In order for the switch to be pressed two people have to be in the room.

[tclawren]

LB-Open the Rage-Electric Chair door is the main thing right now.

[tclawren]

scum moves were

Llamarble to Campfire (insured?)

Nautilius to Tipping Point (insured?)
Soda to Tipping Point (insured?)

Llamarble to Tipping Point
Zajnet to Tipping Point

The bolded is interesting. Zor didn't say that Naut and Soda went to campfire and then Tipping Point. He just said Tipping Point. This makes me think scum have a person that can move people two rooms at a time.

[tclawren]

I'm worried about soda...

He hasn't signed on since Tuesday...

[tclawren]

Willing to listen...

[tclawren]

HIT THE SWITCH NOW.

[tclawren]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the fuck Soda?

[tclawren]

Llama's town.

I've been saying that literally all game.

[tclawren]

WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO USE THE CHAIR?

WE GET ANOTHER LYNCH TODAY. IT'S NOT LIKE THE DAY ENDS OR ANYTHING.

THIS WAY WE CAN KILL TWO SCUMZ.

FUCK.

[tclawren]

D4. The Switch: Max 5. A player in the switch may PM the mod to "throw the switch" if there are at least two players in The Switch and a majority of players (50% 1) throw the switch that round, the person in the electric chair is executed. A new PM must be sent EACH ROUND.

and naut already threw it. We're waiting on you.

[tclawren]

A player in the switch may PM the mod to "throw the switch"

It's just a PM. Not a move. Doesn't even cost a chit.

Reading is tech.

[tclawren]

@Mod: If the electric chair is activated does it turn on before the round change, ala parties?
Just want to assuage my doubts.

[tclawren]

@people who can read Andrius: Is he town?

VOTE: plum

[tclawren]

#MOVE

Player to Move:

Llamarble

Room to Move to:

Monastery

Insurance?:

Yes

sending this in.

[tclawren]

Oh, OK.

That's why I posted it in here first anyway.

Moving Llama to panic room instead then.

[tclawren]

yeah got it.

sent in.

[tclawren]

@Soda: why do you have reservations regarding Llama? And why do you think LB is scum?

FTR, I support a Zajnet wagon also.

[tclawren]

why the hell are we even talking about Fate right now?

We need to focus on who we're going to lynch. We can't lynch Fate (and god knows why you'd want to...) so why are we flooding the thread with this shit?

[tclawren]

Last post from me until Monday.

vote: Zajnet

[tclawren]

I really, really think that Llama should just stay in the panic room. It's going to be difficult getting him to potions and then getting him back (12 chits uninsured) and really Llama's best use right now is his strategy and town leadership. It's best to just keep him safe.

Other things.

-Regfan needs moved to move checker.
-Hito needs moved to Security Room.

They are very much town in my eyes and these rooms need using.

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Naut and Baby Spice are my two main suspects. Will keep my vote off until later in the day.

[tclawren]

sending

#MOVE

Player to Move

: Regfan

Room to Move to

: Move Checker

Insurance?

: Y

[/quote]

[tclawren]

Can we close the Campfire-Tipping Point door?

[tclawren]

OR JUST USE THE PARTY ROOM

[tclawren]

Goddammit people....

You vigs better kil naut tonight. (a Hito death would be awesome right now too. (You killed Klazam? Really?))

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Let's get Maru to the security room.

[tclawren]

Well since I'm getting lynched here's my final reads. I'm assuming there's 3 scum left and a SK.

One of these two is a SK-
Baby Spice + Hito. (I'm leaning hito right now)

Scum-
LLD-This is same bullshit that you pulled in Camden. You're very good at twisting people's words.
Plum-Yeah. Lurkylurk scum that occasionally posts an unmemorable wall.
Naut-Scumbag needs to die.

[tclawren]

@Regfan: I claimed d1 during the gambit. I'm a vt.

I'm moving to party room to make room for Maru.

[tclawren]

That's why you think I'm scum? 'Cause I've changed my mind?

I don't think Zaj's play today is from scum and frankly scum is salivating right now, cause I'm pretty sure they've lined themselves two mislynches in a row right now.

And do I really need to bust out cases at this point? Like strongly worded, meticulously researched cases?

Here they are in a nutshell.

Hito and BS both claimed vig. AT LEAST ONE OF THESE PEOPLE IS OUR SK. Is that really that hard to believe?

LLD has done jack shit except say "TC is scum" all game.
Naut led that fucking awful Soda lynch.
and Plum has still done nothing.

[tclawren]

Does anyone else notice that Tclaw is pushing for that SK lynch really hard?

You know why? He probably believes what he's saying. He likely believes that Hito/Baby is SK.

Too bad that this fixation on an SK hunt over scum only makes him more likely scum.

Now where the fuck did you get that?

Sure I gave SK's a seperate list on my reads chart, but that doesn't mean I want a SK lynch. We need to lynch a mafiate today.

VOTE: LLD

[tclawren]

Urgh. LLD goddamnit. no.

You're saying I'm active lurking? Well I might not be the factory of precious scumhunting walls but I have been pretty honest with my reads. This is how I play, I watch and I vote. Sometimes I ask questions. That's really it.

Two major points that I want to rebuff.

ISO 12: States that Amrun is scummy, keeps his vote there, and then says Re: the Iam Wagon -> "Looks bad, will likely be the lynch for today."

But keeps his vote on Amrun???

Look back up to ISO 1/2. Where I call him out for not pushing his wagon and sticking to it (being non-committal). He now SWITCHES HIS STANCE ENTIRELY, to avoid voting for Iam .

This is SCUM.

THERE WAS LITERALLY NO POINT FOR ME TO VOTE IAM AT THAT TIME. He was at L-3 and I didn't want the day to end any time soon. So I camped my vote on Amrun a while. So I ask you why is this scum?

ISO 22/23: !!! !!! !!! WARNING. SCUM DETECTED. He states he agrees that Klazam is "likely town" but tries to discredit him as confirmed town based on the iamausername flip. Does so with a weak meta reference. VERY SCUMMY.

The main point of this was to figure out why Regfan thought the result confirmed Klazam as town, which I found odd. Klazam ruined it by answering the question first.

ISO 40: MORE SCUM. "Is Andrius town?" and a unprecedented vote on Plum. I wouldn't find it scummy... except that he is now voting me for basically the same thing.

"Not explaining anything for your votes."

Hypocrisy is scummy in this sense.

This is not why I'm voting you. I'm voting you cause you're tunneling on town and hopelessly trying to twist every little thing I say into a scumtell. Like I said before this is the same exact bullshit you pulled in Camden: you take some innoccuous thing someone says, you see how you can twist it and turn it into a "scumslip" and voila you get yourself a nice little mislynch.