SMBM II: Defense of Yoshi's Island (Final! MVPs announced!)

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Blah day 1 started while I was at work.
Gonna start reading v-v

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hnng


UNVOTE:


VOTE: VanillaCupcake


Ignoring a thread four pages into the day? Not cool, man.

Vote: Vifam

Slip slip slip.

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DH, do you see a VanillaCupcake in this game?

@Vifam: Where did you see the name VanillaCupcake?

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DH, do you see a VanillaCupcake in this game?

@Vifam: Where did you see the name VanillaCupcake?

The name showed up on the "Recently post" thing, and I when I clicked I thought she was in the game and just blatantly ignoring it <_<



Thanks to that I know PinkLemonader =/= VanillaCupcake, though.

What recently post thing D:?

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Main page, near the top, above queue, "view unread posts".

This.

You've never seen it?

No :<.

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@Sunset: I do not do catch-up post. Kinda useless to make a stand on something that has already ended imo.

The reason I think Vifam slipped is because not everyone uses their regular username in Quicktopic. Parllablock = VaniliaCupcake, would be my assumption with a Vifam scum flip.

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@Sunset: I've done one catch-up post in only one other game. It was called terrible. Therefore I avoid catch-up, as you will note in my first post I said I was going to "read the thread" not make a "catch up post".
But I will answer you about Isa.
I do agree that its a weird vote that Isa placed down. I mean even Isa agreed that she/he intentionally made it vague. What kind of logic is that?
But I do not get how it makes Isa scum. If it was a non-serious vote, Isa would remove it before DH got lynched. If it was a serious vote, Isa would keep it on DH.

@DH #168: I do not know if that is his QT name. I am only assuming since Palla was the only one that Vifam commented on not reading the thread whole before making a post (top of page 4, like the second post). If Vifam does flip scum, I would be more incline to believe Palla is scum.

@Hoppster: Because I don't know about that function, so when I found out about it I checked and didn't see a Vanilia Cupcake name.

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This wagon on project is lol.

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Wtf is going on in this game, is everyone freaking scum or just been a little on the stupid side?
RBT But a FOS on the person she/he WANTS to vote.
But, does not put a vote BECAUSE she fears a quicklynch.

I find Isa to be a good tenative vote.

Don't want to potentially quicklynch or allow for it.

FoS:Isa

The bolded.
So where is this RBT wagon coming from.

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Wtf is going on in this game, is everyone freaking scum or just been a little on the stupid side?
RBT But a FOS on the person she/he WANTS to vote.
But, does not put a vote BECAUSE she fears a quicklynch.

I find Isa to be a good tenative vote.

Don't want to potentially quicklynch or allow for it.

FoS:Isa

The bolded.
So where is this RBT wagon coming from.

You must have missed the post where he threw all of that shit out of the window at the first sign of pressure.

I've must've.
I don't see it D:

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@Hoppster: Wtf you mean follow-up?
The wagon were bad. I explained why RBT wagon was bad, not sure how I can't be clear on it. I didn't vote Project-Matt because I don't agree that he is scum for what he did. I found it weird what he did, but not sure how it = him been scum.
So exactly how does one follow up on that?
And where has the Vifam thing been cleared up? What about the "reading 4 pages thing"? I can understand if you misplaced a vote on an outside vote, but not if you read a totally different game and had a reason for that vote based on the other game.
Then what about PinkLemonade, whoever that is?
Exactly what has been cleared up?

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@Hoppster: Any inclination? Yes I do, but I won't do it yet. Two bad wagons in my opinion, but does that mean the two people are town? I am a very careful player, and I don't like placing a vote on a person unless I have enough evidence to back it up. With a few days, then I believe that I can make a confident decision on which votes where town, scum, etc.
About the VC thing. Ok VC is a player, but then whats with the reason behind the vote? Did you read VC recent post? Their is nothing about not reading "a thread" that was only 4 pages long, so where is this reasoning coming from if it does not have some connection to this game.
I still don't understand the point of mentioning PinkLemonade.
I have never said I get a free pass of scum-hunting o_o. I just have more trouble doing it then others.
I've already said why I think its a slip, I'm not sure how to push it more.

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The whole point of my vote on that is that he was "ignoring" the thread, if he DID say something about this game why the heck would I put my vote up?



This is hypothetical but holy shit, you're not even making sense

It didn't sound like that what you were saying.
I thought you were commenting on a player (Parallblocks) who didn't read the thread fully as he made his post (even though he was).
I didn't know you meant someone who hadn't even posted in the thread that you say on.
.-. I get confused a lot.

Unvote

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RBT is playing the VI card. we should have more vote on him.

Show me where she is playing the VI card, please.

Celeb, your post is actually true, in a couple ways. Not entirely, because I'm town. But,

I have been keeping up with the game. I just haven't had time to make any useful posts. High School just started, so it will be a bit before I can post anything huge.

I will post something large and useful. I can't make any promises, because I don't know when I have free time, until I actually have free time, but it is coming, and you can count on that.

However, RBT has done jack shit to defend himself, and so VOTE: RBT.

What kind of vote is this?
RBT isn't defending himself, therefore he is scum o-O?
How is that logical in any sense? Both scum and town would try their best to stop a lynch on them, so how can this cause RBT to be scum?

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OK then, RBT is acting similarly in those games. but i still suspect that he intentionally do that.

but whatever, i'll let him alive for now. he can be vigged tonight.

if he flips scum, then scumbuddy is in the playlist of those 2 games.

back to the Isa lynch now.

unvote, vote Isa

You missed a statement/question of mine:

RBT is playing the VI card. we should have more vote on him.

Show me where she is playing the VI card, please.

@Hoppster: Please find a scum read o_O? You do realize that mafia games usually has a majority of town, and to pick out scum isn't going to be as easy as you think it should be.
ignoring that, why do you believe I don't have a "scum" read on people? Is it because I don't have a vote place?

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RBT is playing the VI card. we should have more vote on him.

Show me where she is playing the VI card, please.

you don't play the VI card by a post, RBT is acting like a VI for the whole game. i doubt he didn't learn anything by those 2 games. he can't be VI for 3 straight games.

unvote, vote:RBT

. that's L-1.

I've played several games and I am still consider a VI.
Do you think RBT is scum?

Preview Edit:
@WraithChild: That is my point exactly. I'm not seeing people vote RBT for been scum, but for been a VI.

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Vote: RBT

Sorry, but eventually RBT is going to be a mislynch (assuming RBT is town) and I rather have it done on day 1 where we know we can afford to have a townie flip.
Her giving up attitude is not something town would do.
Not claiming is not something town would do.

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@DH: The only regret about RBT lynch is that I probably should have left it towards the vig to shoot her. She refused to claim, which means he either could not fathom a viable claim (Scum) or he wasn't playing the game towards his win condition.
An obvious lynch that would occur, a bad player in this game, and very anti-town. Having able to lynch RBT during day 1 where we could afford it if he flipped town was the right choice to do.

@Kcdaspot: Are you really trying to justify your vote? That just has scummy written all over it.

@DH: Don't ask me question if you are going to push my lynch without even waiting for a response from me. I stand by my vote and decision to lynch RBT. You are focusing on the person who Hammered RBT because I asked others if they thought he was scum. Did my vote not say I believe RBT would flip scum? I mean the whole, "Not something town would do," should obviously mean that I believed RBT will flipped scum at that point.
But that does not mean others believed RBT would flip scum. Some of the votes were placed not because RBT was scum, but because of her lack of defense which I don't understand how that is related to been scum.
At my vote, I was fully expecting RBT to flip scum.
But I also knew if RBT flipped town, it was no big lost. I rather lynch a townie on Day 1 instead of lynching a townie in MYLO, but of course I would always like to lynch scum.

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@Kcdaspot: I find it scummy that you would try to (re?)-justify your vote after the flip, I mean if you saw anyone else do it, wouldn't it raise question?
I know very little about the set-up, and what I know/guessing is me just assuming things.
In every set-up, I always assume their is a vig in the game. Regardless of how many flips their are due to the night, I always think a vig is in the game (plus looking at the person who was killed, its either a vig or sk trying to look townie).

@DH: I'm confused.

Preview Edit:
DH: What uneasiness are you talking about and what tiptoeing?

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Vote: stormer

explaix?

Why do you want an explanation on this vote, when you said nothing about this:

VOTE: BunnyLover

?

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he had scum reads, though KCDA. Other than for getting an easy lynch, what other explanations are there for that vote? How about town motivation? Its scummy as fuck

u confused bunny?

Wasn't paying attention to timestamp, I thought your question on the vote was much closer to the vote.

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Hey TheJakalope, do you mind answering this question?

Celeb, your post is actually true, in a couple ways. Not entirely, because I'm town. But,

I have been keeping up with the game. I just haven't had time to make any useful posts. High School just started, so it will be a bit before I can post anything huge.

I will post something large and useful. I can't make any promises, because I don't know when I have free time, until I actually have free time, but it is coming, and you can count on that.

However, RBT has done jack shit to defend himself, and so VOTE: RBT.

What kind of vote is this?
RBT isn't defending himself, therefore he is scum o-O?
How is that logical in any sense? Both scum and town would try their best to stop a lynch on them, so how can this cause RBT to be scum?

@Vifam: So your voting me because I've done no scum hunting and have the most votes on me o-o?

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Find Hoppster's post interesting.

"EVERYONE, BUNNYLOVER IS SCUM, I SAID THAT YESTERDAY, NOW WE ARE ALL SAYING IT, I THINK BUNNYLOVER IS SCUM, BUT EVERYONE ON THE WAGON NOW IS SUSPICIOUS, SO I'M GOING TO VOTE SOMEONE THAT ISN'T ON THE WAGON AND ISN'T BUNNYLOVER"

Like.. what?

STOP IGNORING THE QUESTION.

Vote: TheJakalope

we can do something better than fucking policy lynching on day 2.

not liking sunset, at all....

My lynch won't go through, or at least shouldn't without scum basically claiming by hammering me.

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BunnyLover, what's the question?

How is not defending yourself a trait that scum will do.

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@Ranmaru:
Can you explain this again or tell me if I understand you correctly:
"RBT's flip looks more like an independent flip, since he's in the island, and not with others, meaning he's solo. (possibly) How does this look like to you from this pov? (wrt to Bunny)"
What your saying is that RBT flipped third party or am I misunderstanding you?

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Unvote: TheJakalope

I want you to target me tonight.

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Unvote: TheJakalope

I want you to target me tonight.

Why would you want me to do that, baby bowser?

BECAUSE OF MY UMBRELLA TOLD ME TO TELL YOU.

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@Hoppster:
All the characters in that game appeared in Mario SuperStar RPG.
However, the Stork is involved in the beginning of Yoshi Island DS and is the reason the babies are seperated from the evil Kama (I think thats the evil dude).

@Isa: Why would you post a list of characters that should be in the game, when scum might'va not known that?

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Got a few pages to read, had to fill in for work the past 3 days ":(

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Vote: Deadline Extension

Gotta make this game a more priority game

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If he isn't dead by now:

Unvote, Vote Diddin

These pages I just read, I really question why he isn't dead yet.

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Alright, I investigated DemonHybrid, was "unable to get a result". I assume this means roleblocked. So we now know that they have a roleblocker.

So instead of doing what I had asked which would confirm my role and do something that "us" babies should have but don't have, you instead targeted DemonHybrid who claimed a purple Yoshi.
Why?

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Bunny, I don't need to confirm that you're a Baby, I know you're a baby.

Target me tonight.
Do it.
Your power is to find babies. I need to figure out if its your power that we babies need.

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I need to figure out if its your power that we babies need.

Bl, you're trying to imply something here and i'm going to ask: do you believe all babies are town?

Other then Baby Bowser, yes.
And even then Baby Bowser could be town. It wasn't till the end that he went against you and you had to fight him. He after all was the one who lead you through the castle.

more importantly why in the godly fuck should he target YOU? what if your power does nothing but becomes a neighbor? why would you want to potentially waste it like that?

So he should target another random player?
I have a xxxxxxxxxx skill (as I assume all babies have), but I have no idea what it does. At first, I assumed a Yoshi had to pick me up so I can use my ability, assuming they could pick people up. Then I thought it had something to do with those buttons. Now that theirs a stork in the game, thats another option.
I'm just trying to eliminate the chooses, and the stork is the easiest one to eliminate to see if its true or not.

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@WLC: I have an ability, I just don't know how to activate it.

@Isa: Why are we known scum are given fake claims?

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I have a day off tomorrow.
Gonna read the stuff I missed.

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Warrior, regardless if Vifam is lieing or not, I think its best for you to claim.
I do not understand the "passive" thing Vifam talked about. Basically she's claiming a type of bomb, but only to passive abilities? And Vifam claim a paratropper. Aren't paratropper usually enemies you kill? I could understand Stork been town, but not a paratropper.
Leaning on voting Vifam at the moment, just waiting for him to clear things up or fail at it.

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/prodded
Don't have much to add.
Who had a case on Projectmatt so I can ISO that person and read it.

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Finally got a day off tomorrow.
Hopefully when I read the stuff I skimmed/missed, I will get something in context.

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Jaka did recruit me yesterday, we have a qt together now.
So why is WarriorMode still alive?

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Bah, im all only in that quicktopic!
I think.
Unless he recruited someone, don't think so though v-v.

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Vote BunnyLover

Why is it that the stork didn't die until after he targeted you?

Because he stated in the thread that he thought I was Baby Bowser and therefore scum would use that to get me lynch.
Why would I want him to recruit me, then kill him as scum?
All that would prove is that I am a baby.

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So then your are saying scum also get fake claims, since no one counter claim my princess peach claim. and i had thought i need the stork, turned out it didnt do anything.

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Whoa, what?

UNVOTE: Sunset
VOTE: Bunnylover

Are you paying attention at all? Our first successful lynch had a solid fake claim.

Seeing the flip + what Vifam said, it seemed the same to me o-o.
I think it was the counterattack part that made me think they are the same.

Back from V/LA.

Sheeping is a null tell. Just saying.

lolBunnyLover not knowing what the diddin lynch was about.

Xeras is town.

Lynch DX or Sunset today.

VOTE: Sunset

Someone check for breadcrumbs Jaka has possibly made D4 plz?

lolwut, I knew what the Diddin wagon was about.
I didn't even mention Diddin in this page o_o.

Vote: Sunset

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Love these votes on me.
So much reasoning on each of them
........
oh wait.

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Love these votes on me.
So much reasoning on each of them
........
oh wait.

1663.

Your vote has reason, but its wrong.
Those two votes on me by flip scum, don't seem like bussing to me.
Seems like them two are scum together, bandwagoning with eachother.
For Diddin that seems like his normal play :<.

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Vote: Bunnylover

Definitely my top lynch candidate today.

I feel like Bunny should have some stuff to share that he's hesitating to say:
For example, his QT with Jack. How come he can't share Jack's final reads/plans or whatever Jack may have?
It just bothers me in general, like Xeras pointed out, that Jack dies the night after he recruited Bunny.

Puts Bunny at L-2 BTW

I want to thank you.
Because of you, I went back to the quicktopic me and The Jaka had to show ya'll the one post he posted.
In it, CSL had posted something before Jaka death.
The only thing The Jaka said to me was:
"Do you mind telling me the detail on what your trying to unlock?"
That was his only post.
After I posted that I had no idea what that is and how I thought I needed to unlock it (Stork, button, Yoshi)
It was then confirm that the quicktopic is the freaking ability (which was passive).



@Full claim question:
I've already full claimed.
I am baby peach.
I had a (P) ability which was a passive ability for the quicktopic that was unlock when targeted by the stork.

All this lynch will bring is that any other babies out their can not claim, because once they do everyone gonna scream, "OH MY FUCKING GOD HE BABY BOWSER WITH A FAKE CLAIM. OMG OMG OMG OMG LYNCH HIM LYNCH HIM.
OH WAIT ANOTHER BABY CLAIM?!
HE BABY BOWSER TOO!
LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH".
So fucking stupid.

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@Bunny- did you say anything in your QT with Jack?

And I'm also the same species a hiplop.

Nothing except what I thought I need to do to unlock the ability I didn't know.

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It's fine for today. We still have plenty of mislynches if he turns out not to be scum...and regardless, David X is the lynch for today. More focus on Kcda will be put tomorrow.

Just because we have mislynches, doesn't mean its okay to mislynch today... Fool.

Im still torn towards voting bunny.
He didn't have much dialogue with Jack in his QT which bothers me.
I know it was only there for a night but still, Town Bunny would have tried to get more dialogue going in that QT.

<_< Have you seen my dialouge in this game?
been deadly busy.
Anyways, I've never seen a brown color Yoshi before o_O.

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Yay replacement.

Thing is, the way I see it, it wasn't even needed.

Here's the deal. Me, Hiplop, Warriormode, manho and WLC are super confirmed town for various reasons. Implosion and Xeras are probably town as well because if they're Mafia, we can check it easily. This leaves a lynch pool of David Xanatos, Kcdaspot, Bunnylover and BBmolla. We lynch these in the order I just mentioned (or BBmolla before Bunnylover, but it hardly matters, I think, since scum is most probably David Xanatos/Kcdaspot) and we win through basic PoE. If it somehow turns out that NONE of these are scum (???) then Implosion and Xeras are. Thing is however, we can probably assume that we had to deal with 5 or 6 scum rather than 4, so if it turns out that David Xanatos, Kcdaspot AND Bunnylover were all mislynches, then we go for Xeras/Implosion.

Anyone in the pool of hiplop, warriormode, manho and WLC opposed to this idea?

I can understand why Hiplop can be seen confirmed town (I am not saying he is, but I wouldn't be supporting a lynch on him).
But are you, Warriormode, manho or WLC (Might understand the logic on WLC if I am thinking right) confirmed town?

Not sure if DX has claimed or not( don't think he has), waiting for a claim.

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Chain Chomp is a scum claim lol.
But I really don't like Kcda above post.

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@Manho:
Give me one reason that any of the voters had to vote David, and that will explain why my vote wasn't on him.
It was a PoE lynch with 5 other people who could have gotten lynch. Their was no reasoning to the votes, and other then that Chain Chomp claim, DX didn't read extremely obvious scum to me.
Also if I was DX scum buddy, why would I not bus him? Why would I keep off his wagon and not try to distance myself from him?

Regardless, I think Kcda is town.

Vote: Xeras

Going to re-read you. Isa said she had question for you, going to try and find what she saw.

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I just give up.
Sorry, but I Just can't deal with it.
I'm baby peach, I'm town. Town going to win rather I am lynch or not, so just its not like you guys can't afford my mislynch.

Unvote, Vote Bunnlover

Look at Xeras vote on David. Its so obvious thats its bussing.

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Bah.