Strategy Mafia (Town Victory!)

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #2259 (isolation #0) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:47 am

Yarr!

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #2266 (isolation #1) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:54 am

<--- didn't kill anyone

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #2272 (isolation #2) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:48 am

I'm pretty much confirmed town, right? All the flipped mafia have powers + early uncalled for VT claim = town town town.

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #2273 (isolation #3) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:23 pm

Plus, Maru is obvtown and probably terrible at scum, etc.

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #2274 (isolation #4) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:18 pm

About half-way through.

Nautilus' early username vote was weird.
#729-730 make me think Regfantown. (#731-732 = Maruobvtown too, by the bye)
The Klazam vigging is hilariously bad.

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #2278 (isolation #5) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:10 pm

You never looked in the Villa, right, Andrius? Why not?

In post 2275, Regfan wrote:I did a lot of mulling over the setup information that we have so far and re-reading and I actually think we're dealing with one scum now, not two. I'll explain it all in more detail later but I'm exhausted and need sleep right now.

I agree with this, but we're probably better assuming 2 scum for now. Just 4 scum would bring Llamarble back into the conversation though, as far as I'm concerned.

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #2279 (isolation #6) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:33 pm

Wait, never mind, there's a lawyer, so Llamarble is doubleplustown.

So this is pretty simple, right? Scum are among {Andrius, Nautilius, Regfan} and we have 3 kills?

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #2280 (isolation #7) » Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:38 pm

Was Regfanroleblocker an actual claim or just speculation?

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #2281 (isolation #8) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:39 am

I kinda would've expected Regfan to call back to the whole finally getting to catch Maguascum thing.

In post 2039, Regfan wrote:yeah if [hito] really was town why hasn't he just asked zoraster what his action would say if Move Checker noticed it?

This is pretty terrible.

That said, scum is probably Andrius + Nautilius. Will elaborate on Andriusscum soon. Do I need to make any moves?

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #2283 (isolation #9) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:18 am

Well, Andrius is scum, so...

In post 2282, Regfan wrote:That was after I had already witnessed Hito reloading in the Villa and knowing that his action was called or titled a miscellaneous action and was hoping he would scumslip by claiming that his action would have a different label or name.

That makes even less sense. There's zero reason for hito to give incorrect information about his actual role. His alignment doesn't enter into it. (It would've made some sense if you thought the whole reloading story was bogus since in that case hito obviously wouldn't ask zor what it was called.)

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #2287 (isolation #10) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:08 am

Is the plan for hito to move to door control?

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #2290 (isolation #11) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:54 am

What's the point, really? A 1 vs. 1 between you and Andrius or Naut wouldn't even help us; apart from panic room continuing to protect llama I don't really see the appeal of any of the rooms currently. As I see it, the only way we lose this (barring hito or llamarble shenanigans in which case we probably lose regardless of our actions) is if the scum can prevent hito from killing somehow. Given that there's a dead mafia doctor, further protection on the side of the scums seems highly unlikely, but we can't exclude a roleblocker. Therefore, I think we should arrange for hito's vig target to be closer to hito than anyone else, ensuring that hito's vig goes off before the roleblock. This would go wrong if and only if we mislynch and the vig target is the roleblocker (if we lynch correctly and the vig target is the roleblocker, we just lynch him).

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #2293 (isolation #12) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:43 am

Andrius wrote:Also no tunnels in villa when I checked days ago.

This is why you're scum, just fyi.

You claim to be the Town Passage Finder, but we know there is a secret passage in the Secluded Villa and yet you claim you didn't find any.

Bodysnatcher role PM wrote:You have a lair that is behind a secret passage to the north of the Secluded Villa.

Bodysnatcher role PM wrote:If your lair is discovered and entered, any player strapped to the table will be released in his current condition.

Considering it's fairly plausible that a scum tunnel role would make this fake claim and you had no way of knowing that the Villa did contain a secret passage at the time, yeah, you're scum.

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #2301 (isolation #13) » Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:16 am

Yeah, no, sorry.

Vote: Andrius

Cogito Ergo Sum · Post Post #2355 (isolation #14) » Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:43 am

I think balancewise this was fine. Obviously losing two scum members early hurt more than usual, but even in this scenario it was entirely winnable if hito had died N3. The bodysnatcher role is more pro-scum than your normal SK role here (especially with only one of the scum having a ready-made fake power claim - the Door Closer).