SMBM II: Defense of Yoshi's Island (Final! MVPs announced!)

[TheJakalope]

Forgot about this game for today.

Hmm. A lot of.. Null stuff going on. More thoughts tomorrow. I'm tired.

[TheJakalope]

Still trying to gather thoughts together, but this game is moving quickly.

Not sure about Isa wagon. Going to reread a couple of pages.

However, I do like..

VOTE: RBT

[TheJakalope]

That's L-1.

Unvote

RBT: Claim.

[TheJakalope]

Yeah, sorry about my inactivity. I'm having a hard time gaining interest in this game.

I'll give a few quick reads while I'm here.

Isa and Kcdaspot - Town

Vifam, Suneset - Neutral

RBT, diddin - Scum (RBT much more then diddin)

[TheJakalope]

Alright, well RBT is lynch priority #1 today because of his bullshit "Vote for me if you're scum".

I'll do an ISO on diddin and see what I can present.

[TheJakalope]

Ok, so turns out, diddin's ISO is pretty uneventful. I'm not sure if I got this game mixed up or what, but I don't have scum read on him anymore.

[TheJakalope]

Celeb, your post is actually true, in a couple ways. Not entirely, because I'm town. But,

I have been keeping up with the game. I just haven't had time to make any useful posts. High School just started, so it will be a bit before I can post anything huge.

I will post something large and useful. I can't make any promises, because I don't know when I have free time, until I actually have free time, but it is coming, and you can count on that.

However, RBT has done jack shit to defend himself, and so VOTE: RBT.

[TheJakalope]

Prod Response.

I haven't posted because this day should be OVER.

RBT is today's lynch.

[TheJakalope]

Find Hoppster's post interesting.

"EVERYONE, BUNNYLOVER IS SCUM, I SAID THAT YESTERDAY, NOW WE ARE ALL SAYING IT, I THINK BUNNYLOVER IS SCUM, BUT EVERYONE ON THE WAGON NOW IS SUSPICIOUS, SO I'M GOING TO VOTE SOMEONE THAT ISN'T ON THE WAGON AND ISN'T BUNNYLOVER"

Like.. what?

[TheJakalope]

BunnyLover, what's the question?

[TheJakalope]

Now today he is just joining the only wagon that's not him, Bunnylover.

Oh really now? Would you mind looking at the Vote Count?

I haven't put any votes down, and quite honestly, I don't believe BunnyLover to be scum.

Also, I never said that you were right about me bringing up diddin's name because it was being thrown around.

I actually confused it with another game. I think I am in ~3 games with Diddin, and I got confused.

[TheJakalope]

BunnyLover, what's the question?

How is not defending yourself a trait that scum will do.

When I play as scum there's sometimes a point, depending on my play during that game, where I say "Shit. I'm most likely going to get lynched." That's what it seemed like with RBT. Some people Flail before they get lynched, I give up. Both should be signs to hammer.

[TheJakalope]

Flailing is saying "I'M NOT SCUM BECAUSE I'M TOWN, YOU'RE ALL STUPID"

Giving up is giving up.

Defending yourself is explaining the scum reads on you, and probably presenting a better case on someone else.

[TheJakalope]

Got prodded, sorry for not posting earlier. Didn't know it'd go this quick (16 pages in three days, really).

The wagon on RBT has grown extremely quick in my opinion. His OMGUS on DH was a bit awkward, but okay.
At this point I find DH the most suspicious. It seems he takes things that are kinda null-tell, and tries to make a bit of a scum-thing out of it. First with Vifam, then with RBT.

Unvote. Vote: DemonHybrid.

Unvote. Vote: TheJakalope.

Want some proof he's up to date and keeping his promise of more content (I know I haven't done much either, but I'm didn't make a big empty promise), but in the meantime just jumping on the biggest wagon without additional reason.

I don't like how DH is now turning BL in some sort of scapegoat, while I feel he was the driving force Day1, and seems he's taken over now today, and not getting any problems with it.

Vote: DemonHydrid.

Vifam is coming in as a close second,

Okay, rereading the thread, DH kinda had some reasons to dislike RBT's play. Still don't like how in the end he wanted RBT to replace out, and also not how day 2 with an utmost certainty went after BL, but still. My vote on him is wasted anyway at this point.

Unvote.

I didn't like TheJakalope's play day 1, promising content, not giving any, and then jumping on RBT's wagon with much additional reason, and day 2 hasn't improved much.

Vote: TheJakalope.

These are WeyounsLastClone's votes. He has just switched between DH and myself since near the end of day one. His last vote for me isn't anything new either. He's essentially saying, "hey this wagon's bigger, and even though nothing's changed since I voted DH, I still am going to hop wagons until one of them gets lynched."

VOTE: WLC

[TheJakalope]

CHK's Jaka Case

1]] You will not convince me that this is a town-motivated way of asking for a claim. First, he fluff-notes that RBT is L-1 for town credit. Then he moves on to unvote, therefore placing RBT at L-2... and then asks him to claim? No. That's not pro-town. That's not a town post at all. Period.

2]] He never offers insight as to why he felt RBT was being scummy; instead, he states first that RBT and diddin are scummy (which he later retracts about diddin) with a few town and neutral reads he also had (which I feel is fluff filler to look pro-town), then takes a beef with RBT's play-style without actually elaborating as to why he feels it's scummy in the first place. The only elaboration therein, at all, is the fact that "I give up as scum," which automatically means that RBT was scum because they had given up? Obviously not.

3]] This is an entirely baseless accusation.

That's all I have time for for now, though these are (I feel) pretty strong points leaning toward The Scumalope.

1. I unvote to prevent a quickhammer and request a claim, since I believe there was someone willing to hammer.

2. All you did was explain my explanation for RBT lynching.

3. What are you even talking about? This actually happens.

[TheJakalope]

@Mod:

Vote Count Please?

[TheJakalope]

meta is terrible.

if jak flips scum, DH comes under scrutiny.

I'll be L-1, if no objections.

This is a bad post.

Would anyone else like to join the WLC wagon? Now with 80% Chance of lynching SCUM!

[TheJakalope]

Please look at WLC's Iso, and tell me he isn't scum.

[TheJakalope]

Got prodded, sorry for not posting earlier. Didn't know it'd go this quick (16 pages in three days, really).

The wagon on RBT has grown extremely quick in my opinion. His OMGUS on DH was a bit awkward, but okay.
At this point I find DH the most suspicious. It seems he takes things that are kinda null-tell, and tries to make a bit of a scum-thing out of it. First with Vifam, then with RBT.

Unvote. Vote: DemonHybrid.

Unvote. Vote: TheJakalope.

Want some proof he's up to date and keeping his promise of more content (I know I haven't done much either, but I'm didn't make a big empty promise), but in the meantime just jumping on the biggest wagon without additional reason.

I don't like how DH is now turning BL in some sort of scapegoat, while I feel he was the driving force Day1, and seems he's taken over now today, and not getting any problems with it.

Vote: DemonHydrid.

Vifam is coming in as a close second,

Okay, rereading the thread, DH kinda had some reasons to dislike RBT's play. Still don't like how in the end he wanted RBT to replace out, and also not how day 2 with an utmost certainty went after BL, but still. My vote on him is wasted anyway at this point.

Unvote.

I didn't like TheJakalope's play day 1, promising content, not giving any, and then jumping on RBT's wagon with much additional reason, and day 2 hasn't improved much.

Vote: TheJakalope.

These are WeyounsLastClone's votes. He has just switched between DH and myself since near the end of day one. His last vote for me isn't anything new either. He's essentially saying, "hey this wagon's bigger, and even though nothing's changed since I voted DH, I still am going to hop wagons until one of them gets lynched."

VOTE: WLC

Did you not see this, chkflip?

[TheJakalope]

Claim

:Stork.

Each night I investigate one person and am told whether or not they are a baby.

If they are a baby, then they a Masonry QT is created, however, apparently there are Anti-Town baby roles.

Night 1 I investigated Sunset and was told that they aren't a baby.

[TheJakalope]

Sunset, I had to start somewhere. There really was not a lot of thought process.

[TheJakalope]

Isa, besides the inclusion of him on my list, What are your reasons for believing diddin to be scum?

[TheJakalope]

Unvote: TheJakalope

I want you to target me tonight.

Why would you want me to do that, baby bowser?

[TheJakalope]

Sunset, I had to start somewhere. There really was not a lot of thought process.

are you telling me that your nught action was utterly random or not?

is it because we're a hydra and that's 2 players to talk to?

and why not get a communication channel with a top town read of yours? Surely that is the best play as they are most likely to be town (you listed us as null so I'm not seeing why you chose us)

furthermore BL requesting neighbourizing is very suspect to me. perhaps a scum role wanting to appear as a baby as they think that might make them look a town role or something. BL should have more to say anyways at this point rather than begging for a neighbourizing

Well obviously I wasn't going to pick someone I thought was scum.

The Hydra's a good point as well, but I can't say I factored that into my decision.

[TheJakalope]

WLC today, and chkflip tomorrow. Looking good.

[TheJakalope]

I wouldn't say he's coming off as scum, but he isn't exactly looking town either.

[TheJakalope]

Let's lynch WLC today. If he flips town, I'll be inclined to vote diddin. If he flips scum, I'll be inclined to vote chkflip.

[TheJakalope]

chkflip has posted little about the WLC wagon. But then, I said

Let's lynch WLC today. If he flips town, I'll be inclined to vote diddin. If he flips scum, I'll be inclined to vote chkflip.

And immediately following, chkflip says

I'm willing to hammer. Need a claim though.

BOOM.

Unvote

If chkflip is scum, WLC and diddin are town.

chkflip knows WLC would flip town, because he is scum and wants to use my post to help with the diddin wagon he would start tomorrow.

VOTE: chkflip

[TheJakalope]

Shit, I didn't realize how close we were to deadline.

Unvote

VOTE: WLC

If WLC flips town, I'm going after chkflip tomorrow.

[TheJakalope]

VOTE: Xeras

Eagerly awaiting stormer flip.

[TheJakalope]

Damn.

Well reset vote count.

VOTE: Xeras

[TheJakalope]

VOTE: Deadline Extension

[TheJakalope]

Dammit. Okay, but if diddin is town, we are getting Xeras.
VOTE: diddin

[TheJakalope]

Alright guys, let's say diddin IS scum like you guys say. He gave up an opportunity to vig Xeras.

diddin = scum; Xeras = Scum
diddin = town; Xeras = Scum

[TheJakalope]

Alright, I investigated DemonHybrid, was "unable to get a result". I assume this means roleblocked. So we now know that they have a roleblocker.

[TheJakalope]

Vifam is town.

Also DemonHybrid, just because you claimed Purple Yoshi, does NOT mean I believed you. It's irrelevant because I got blocked.

Still don't like WLC, but going to read his interactions with diddin to see if I'm going to put a vote on him.

[TheJakalope]

WLC hasn't had his vote on diddin all game.

VOTE: WLC

[TheJakalope]

Bunny, I don't need to confirm that you're a Baby, I know you're a baby.

[TheJakalope]

DemonHybrid. I have no doubt about weather or not he is a baby. He would not claim to be a baby if he wasn't. I don't no if he's Town or Scum baby, but

My role does nothing to confirm his allignment.

[TheJakalope]

EBWOP: know*

Can't believe I did that.

[TheJakalope]

WELL THAT'S EASY.

Unvote

VOTE: ProjectMatt

[TheJakalope]

I still support a PJ lynch for today, but

HoS: Warrior

[TheJakalope]

I still want a WLC lynch. Are you guys even reading his posts?

[TheJakalope]

Warrior, if he's lying, you won't be dead tomorrow, and we can lynch him. It's pretty simple. For now, help us finish the ProjectMatt wagon.

[TheJakalope]

Just because I'd like a WLC lynch, doesn't mean I don't want you lynched.

[TheJakalope]

Guys, I don't know who is being honest out of vifam and Warriormode. I'm more drawn toward Vifam, but what if Vifam is Mafia and kills warrior tonight?

[TheJakalope]

Yeah, thanks. Understand now.

[TheJakalope]

Prodded.

Let's end ProjectMatt, so we can find out the nonsense behind this Warrior/Vifam stuff tomorrow. Seriously.

[TheJakalope]

The ONLY counter wagon I would join is WLC. But, I'd much rather lynch ProjectMatt.

[TheJakalope]

Question. Why is the day not over?

[TheJakalope]

And that's that.

Who isn't voting ProjectMatt? Do it. Do it now.

[TheJakalope]

Quite honestly, PM, at this point it seems like you're saying, "Yeah, I'm scum, but where's your proof?!" You haven't given us any reason to believe you're town. You refusal to claim is the cherry on top. Someone hammer.

[TheJakalope]

I wanted the mod to verify that I was at L-1 before I officially claimed. I probably would have when we had a votecount.

Then you should have said that instead of, "I'm too lazy to fakeclaim" which is what everyone heard.

[TheJakalope]

I recruited Bunnylover. Confirmed for baby, but alignment still unknown.

[TheJakalope]

VOTE: Vifam

Didn't we decide on this yesterday? WarriorMode is alive. Vifam lied.

[TheJakalope]

Oh alright. VOTE: Sunset

[TheJakalope]

Because the Vifam case is built around sunset as well, I'm fine with lynching either today.