The Aftermath - Victors Announced

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB -- you need to go ahead and fullclaim if you haven't already. The number of available townies is dwindling pretty damn quickly, we need to get some claims out there and start sorting this out.

Vote: Seraphim

woop woop this again

I did fully claim.

Can we please lynch elvis? The fact that she's nearly un-lynchable means that she guaranteed scum. Don't derail that wagon please.

[DrippingGoofball]

elvis_knits & I are masons.

Really.

[DrippingGoofball]

SpyreX (5):

Ellibereth

,

Fate

,

Lowell

,

Sleepless Assassin

, xRECKONERx

Katsuki (3):

DrippingGoofball

,

Hinduragi

,

Rhinox

Sleepless Assassin

(3): chunkykev, Katsuki, Pine
xRECKONERx (3):

Kublai Khan

, SpyreX,

SocioPath

chunkykev (2):

elvis_knits

,

kuribo

kuribo

(2):

Seraphim

,

springlullaby

Hinduragi

(1):

Shattered Viewpoint

Kublai Khan

(1): Zdenek

======================

Sleepless Assassin

(11):

elvis_knits

, Katsuki,

Hoppster

,

Kublai Khan

,

kuribo

,

Lowell

, Pine,

Rhinox

,

Shattered Viewpoint

,

springlullaby

,

SocioPath

SpyreX (4):

Ellibereth

,

Fate

,

Sleepless Assassin

, xRECKONERx

Katsuki (2):

DrippingGoofball

,

Hinduragi

Kublai Khan

(1): Zdenek

kuribo

(1):

Seraphim

xRECKONERx (1): SpyreX

======================

Rhinox

(8):

elvis_knits

,

Fate

,

kuribo

, Pine,

Shattered Viewpoint

, SpyreX,

springlullaby

, xRECKONERx

Fate

(1):

Hinduragi

Kublai Khan

(1): Zdenek

Lowell

(1):

DrippingGoofball

Pine (1): chunkykev

springlullaby

(1):

Hoppster

xRECKONERx (1):

Kublai Khan

Zdenek (1):

Rhinox

======================

springlullaby

(10):

Fate

,

Hoppster

, Katsuki,

Kublai Khan

,

kuribo

, Pine,

Seraphim

,

Shattered Viewpoint

, xRECKONERx, Zdenek

Rhinox

(2):

elvis_knits

, SpyreX

Ellibereth

(1):

DrippingGoofball

Fate

(1):

Hinduragi

Pine (1): chunkykev

Shattered Viewpoint

(1):

springlullaby

Not Voting:

Lowell

,

Ellibereth

======================

Hoppster

(10): chunkykev,

kuribo

,

Lowell

,

Fate

, Pine, Pine,

Seraphim

, xRECKONERx, xRECKONERx, Zdenek

Fate

(1):

Hoppster

======================

DrippingGoofball

(8): Chunkykev,

DrippingGoofball

,

Fate

, Katsuki,

Kublai Khan

,

Lowell

,

Seraphim

, Pine

Seraphim

(2):

Ellibereth

, Zdenek
xRECKONERx (2): Elvis knits,

Kublai Khan

Zdenek (1): xRECKONERx

=============================

If elvis & Kublai are truly masons (which makes my head hurt), then:

154 Pine
93 Katsuki
81 xRECKONERx
57 Lowell
54 Chunkykev
40 Seraphim
34 Zdenek
33 SpyreX

[DrippingGoofball]

But kuribo was a tracker. How did I miss that?

Yeah. This game has two trackers. That's why I wasn't super-keen on claiming it while I was in jeopardy.

[DrippingGoofball]

This is laughable.

So you're calling ME scum, on TOP of Fate?

TROLOLOL SO THIS IS HOW YOU WANNA PLAY HUH HINDU
I MEAN IT WASN'T LIKE GRIM ISO DIDN'T SCREAM OBVTOWN OR ANYTHING NOPE NOT AT ALL


That said, there is definitely scum on the rhinox wagon. I stand by what I said that the DGB mason claim increased the likelihood of rhinox town.
Will look at the rhinox stuff either today or tomorrow, depending when I have time.

SL YOU NEED TO CLAIM IN YOUR NEXT POST OR FACE HAMMERING

Oh yeah I didnt really finish that post off.
Hindu is being utterly useless this game, though sadly I'm not feeling hindu scum JUST yet.

LOOOOL

I call you scum and suddenly I'm the epitome of fucking useless? Bull. Even YOU said Fate was weird this game but now I'm USELESS when I've BEEN saying he's scum before that. AND your hammer was terrible. At least I didn't hammer while I meta'd and I come back to see THIS shit.

Hinduragi might have been Katsuki's nightkill preference.

[DrippingGoofball]

The D1 vote count tells me {Lowell, Katsuki} must be 1-2 scum. I don't expect you to believe that, DGB, but when I flip Town, keep that in mind, k?

K, I cut you some slack.

Who do we lynch, Lowell or Katsuki? I have a marginal preference for Katsuki, because I have a no-result on Lowell from last night. I might have been RB'd, though. But there's a chance he didn't do the NK or just didn't have a night action regardless of alignment.

P.edit, haha.

VOTE: Katsuki

[DrippingGoofball]

And I have a gift for you, Pine.

If you're town, and elvis & KK are really masons (which is really iffy) this is the scumputer output:

125 Katsuki
105 xRECKONERx
76 Lowell
65 Chunkykev
50 SpyreX
50 Seraphim
40 Zdenek

I thought that a lurker like Lowell would be dispensable to a scumteam and actually, a good choice to perform the NK. Not to mention how the first known tracker was shot... they had to have felt rather safe.

Trackers aren't that useful, I don't know if I've been RB'd - "no-result", I can potentially out a town PR, and I have to track a kill.

[DrippingGoofball]

I just iso'd elvis and KK, and you know what? They could, in fact, be masons.

[DrippingGoofball]

Alright, so here's what I'm thinking.

kuribo

is town.

Kublai Khan

is town.

Katsuki

is town.

I'm not sure what to think of

Ellie

yet but I definitely would not mind

Rhinox

taking his place.

Also,

Vote:

DGB

Seraphim not looking good.

[DrippingGoofball]

Guys, Grimmjow doesn't replace out of scum slots. Katsuki is town.

Sorry. The Katsuki lynch is proceeding.

[DrippingGoofball]

Can we please lynch Seraphim or Chunkykev?

PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE

I'm more confident in Seraphim than Chunkykev and I really want to lead a lynch on scum before the game is over

unvote, vote: Seraphim

C'mon Pine. Look deep into your heart and know it's true.

NO

Chunkykev reads town, I have a no-result on Seraphim.

[DrippingGoofball]

OK.

It's official. xRECK is flailing scum.

Chunkykev/Lowell/Seraphim/Zdenek are all acceptable lynches.

Two of my town reads, and two players I have no-result on.

Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

Katsuki wagon is stalling, this is a good sign that we're on the right track.

We could join the masons and lynch xRECK, too.

[DrippingGoofball]

Also, a negative Tracker result guarantees that if the target is indeed scum, they are a Goon. As we should be taking down scum PRs in preference to Goons, kindly sit down and shut the fuck up.

Oh yeah

This thinking is sound.

[DrippingGoofball]

My grandfather has been in the hospital for weeks on his death bed. I just got a call saying this is the end. I am waiting to hear details right now but I may be emergency vla very soon here.

My thoughts will be will you. Take care.

====================

I guess we ought to lynch Katsuki, then.

[DrippingGoofball]

Katsuki needs to be withing claiming range pronto.

[DrippingGoofball]

EBWOP

Sorry. I meant

fake

claiming range.

[DrippingGoofball]

Pine, you really need to get your fixation with me being scum out of your head. It's not helpful.

I agree with chunkykev. Chunkykev is town and isn't being lynched today.

[DrippingGoofball]

...there's proof that Lowell is not a scum PR[...].

I can't be certain I wasn't roleblocked.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm not against lynching Lowell, but let's lynch Katsuki first.

I bet that fakeclaim is going to be painfully long to come. I've seen Katsuki do that sort of strategic lurking in the past as scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

I can't be certain I wasn't roleblocked.

You got "didn't go anywhere" results not no results, right?

Unvote, Vote: Kat

Reading comp...

I get "no-result" as the default.

[DrippingGoofball]

Katsuki is scum, he forgot to rail against his wagon.

[DrippingGoofball]

If you're right, let it be my honor to nominate you for that Scummy.

Close to end game, it's not impossible that SV bus'ed. The scum team could afford some bus'ing. Although - no one suspected SV. So it wasn't necessary for him to bus/distance all that much. And xRECK does have what it takes to weasel out of being wagoned, lessening the danger.

I generally don't like to harvest info from the dead scum iso's, it tends to be too WIFOM-y.

This being said, I do find that his opinion of Lowell smacks of a general agreement in, say, a scum QT that Lowell should power-lurk for the scum win. Just my spidey-sense, here.

[DrippingGoofball]

Anothing, SV NOT mentioning Seraphim may be significant, actually. Because as scum, if would have been real easy to work on marking Seraphim for death during the day. Seraphim provided all the material, why not use it?

Katsuki is DEFINITELY scum.

xRECK is town. He's got to be. His play is horrendous if he's town. So, he's not.

And this post of Zdenek worries me: "

So the last scum are probably in Lowell, ChunkyKev and Fate.

" Fate is the last scum? Pleeeaaase. No.

I've officially changed my mind about Zdenek over that last sentence. I don't know why it escaped me before. It's a doozy.

And Katsuki (who is confirmed scum in my mind):

"I'd be willing to vote any one of chunky, lowell, Pine. No read on zdenik."

I dunno. Maybe Lowell is town, actually, with both RECK and Katsuki going after him. And WHY MENTION ZDENEK for a NO-READ?????

Yeah. Zdenek is another scumbag. I'm sorry I didn't see it before.

[DrippingGoofball]

So...

Katsuki
xRECK
Zdenek

...and maybe Seraphim.

Yeah, Pine. I say, substitute xRECK for chunkykev in your list and it's in the bag.

You what's more useful than iso'ing dead scum? It's checking the suspect lists of the non-claimed-PR-dead-townies. I'm going to be away all weekend (except mornings and evenings). It's your homework!

[DrippingGoofball]

THE HELL IS MY KATSUKI LYNCH DYING?

HE CLAIMED VT

THAT SEALS IT

WERE NOT DICKIN AROUND ELSEWHERE

Yeah, that.

[DrippingGoofball]

Also, by POE, and by his own behavior, xRECK is very likely scum, so no way I'm following his siren song.

[DrippingGoofball]

MOAR KATSUKI VOATZ PLZ

[DrippingGoofball]

Following the lead of the few unconfirmed townies is really dumb strategy.

[DrippingGoofball]

With KK, Pine, Seraphim, and Elvis as town, we get the following.

149 Katsuki
123 xRECKONERx
89 Lowell
86 Chunkykev
53 Zdenek
50 SpyreX

I'm also giving Lowell a 20% discount on his points because of the no-result track. Notwithstanding this, his points would be close to xRECK's.

[DrippingGoofball]

One step further with SpyreX as town:

173 xRECKONERx
149 Katsuki
90 Lowell
86 Chunkykev
53 Zdenek

[DrippingGoofball]

3-4 {xRECKONERx, Katsuki, Lowell, Chunkykev, Zdenek} is scum.

Random lynches in this group probably have a >60% chance of hitting scum; 80% if we have 4 scum left.

[DrippingGoofball]

xRECKONERx vouched for Grimmjow.

This may well turn out as scum vouching for scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

please stop your fucking retarded scumputer nonsense, DGB

You're wrong on your top two candidates there so fucking clearly it's broken

PREDIT: Fine then DGB, let's go Lowell or Chunkykev

You have the same dismissive attitude with me that SV had, so, you're sounding really scummy from my perspective. Also, the scum in Kids in the Hall mafia dismissed me with a similar tone.

We're not listening to you, and we're not moving on to Lowell or Chunkykev.

Either you or Katsuki. If Katsuki is so town, we can lynch you instead. That's the only alternative to a Katsuki lynch that I will accept.

[DrippingGoofball]

It's possible. But it's rare for them to vouch so strongly in my experience. That's what gives me the doubt. If we've really got scum as cornered as we think, then it doesn't hurt to lynch the most doubt-less candidate.

If anyone can do it, RECK can. Furthermore, we now have enough confirmed townies that the scum has to be steadfast in not bus'ing and supporting each other.

You believe Seraphim's claim so readily?

Eventually, we'll lynch him and test it. Now is not the time. We need to kill one more scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

You're not masons.

We're lynching Katsuki, OK? He claimed vanilla and skedaddled, that's what he does as scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

It was a Theme Game... with Nobody Special... he eventually vig'ed me stupidly... Katsuki was scum and no one believed me... oh and I think there was a cult mechanism. Maybe a Flay game. I'll get the link.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yeah. It was Flay's Succession Mafia.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... er_sort=Go

This was professional lurkerscum Katsuki's last post:

For the record, there was no selective V/LA'ing on my part.
I was V/LA for all of my games during the span I was V/LA here.

My only regret was that I did not know how little time I would have and not replacing out much earlier.

Katsuki was lurking bad and hoping his lynch was going to magically go away. I even put a TIMER for the hammer to fall if Katsuki failed to show up.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yes the KatsuGrimm slot has been superlurk but it's town

xRECK, can you prove you're town?

[DrippingGoofball]

We need to lynch Katsuki.

All the townies pretty much have to agree. It would be faster if the scum helped. But the scum isn't helping us lynch a buddy.

Please don't derail.

[DrippingGoofball]

Katsuki isn't fucking scum, I would stake my entire reputation as a player on that. No squirming on his part means not likely scum (Katsuki squirms like a snake under pressure) and the bulletproof Grimm meta is solid enough for me to do that.

Did you check the game reference you asked for?

You'll see no such squirming.

[DrippingGoofball]

One step further with SpyreX as town:

173 xRECKONERx

149 Katsuki
90 Lowell
86 Chunkykev
53 Zdenek

xRECK,

If

you're town...

THEN ALL FOUR OTHER NON-CONFIRMED TOWNIES ARE SCUM.

Period.

If

you're town...

Katsuki is confirmed scum.

Period.

The fact that you haven't reached that conclusion yourself leads me to believe that you're scum trying to divert the Katsukiscum lynch on a townie.

[DrippingGoofball]

To wit, it's possible for one of...

149 Katsuki
90 Lowell
86 Chunkykev
53 Zdenek

...to be a townie if xRECK is scum.

And I doubt that townie would be Katsuki.

[DrippingGoofball]

Why is sera not on the scum list anymore, DGB? Why is the claim so easily believed?

We'll kill him later, when we can possibly spare a townie. We can't today, that's all. There's only one scum down and we don't outnumber the scum by that much.

Kat's "I'm a VT, see you all later" post does appear scummy, but reck's defence is strong and that doesn't make a lot of sense if they are scum together.

It doesn't just APPEAR scummy, Katsuki

is

scum. And I don't put it past xRECK to do this as scum, especially if Katsuki has some scum PR. I can TOTALLY see him do this for the WIFOM. Totally. xRECK is a good player.

[DrippingGoofball]

unvote, vote katsuki

All the cool kids are doing it.

Lowell.

Can you prove you're town?

[DrippingGoofball]

And if you can prove it, how.

[DrippingGoofball]

Lowell, any chance of adding something meaningful or you outgoing to scummy lurk until you are lynched?

A vote on the leading wagon with no actual reason is pathetic, especially when you are one of the top candidates being spoken about for the lynch. Just makes me even more comfortable with where my lynch vote is.

Lowell's Katsuki vote might be the only townie thing he's done all game.

HAVE YOU NOTICED HOW HARD IT IS TO LYNCH KATSUKI????

Katsuki, a useless lurker with a VT claim? When PoE dictactes he has a 60-80% chance of being scum????????????????

Yeah. That's because he's scum and the scumbaggos are in self-preservation mode, with so many confirmed townies and all.

Let's not distract ourselves. After Katsuki flips scum, xRECK has got to be next. All that "he-wouldn't-defend-a-buddy -so-hardcore" WIFOM bizniss doesn't fly with me. Attacking xRECK marks me for the NK, too, if you want more WIFOM. xRECK NKs his enemies mercilessly. Reference: Goofbash Mafia.

[DrippingGoofball]

SpyreX (5):

Ellibereth

,

Fate

,

Lowell

,

Sleepless Assassin

, xRECKONERx

Katsuki

(3):

DrippingGoofball

,

Hinduragi

,

Rhinox

Sleepless Assassin

(3): chunkykev,

Katsuki

,

Pine

xRECKONERx (3):

Kublai Khan

, SpyreX,

SocioPath

chunkykev (2):

elvis_knits

,

kuribo

kuribo

(2):

Seraphim

,

springlullaby

Hinduragi

(1):

Shattered Viewpoint

Kublai Khan

(1): Zdenek

======================

Sleepless Assassin

(11):

elvis_knits

,

Katsuki

,

Hoppster

,

Kublai Khan

,

kuribo

,

Lowell

,

Pine

,

Rhinox

,

Shattered Viewpoint

,

springlullaby

,

SocioPath

SpyreX (4):

Ellibereth

,

Fate

,

Sleepless Assassin

, xRECKONERx

Katsuki

(2):

DrippingGoofball

,

Hinduragi

Kublai Khan

(1): Zdenek

kuribo

(1):

Seraphim

xRECKONERx (1): SpyreX

======================

Rhinox

(8):

elvis_knits

,

Fate

,

kuribo

,

Pine

,

Shattered Viewpoint

, SpyreX,

springlullaby

, xRECKONERx

Fate

(1):

Hinduragi

Kublai Khan

(1): Zdenek

Lowell

(1):

DrippingGoofball

Pine

(1): chunkykev

springlullaby

(1):

Hoppster

xRECKONERx (1):

Kublai Khan

Zdenek (1):

Rhinox

======================

springlullaby

(10):

Fate

,

Hoppster

,

Katsuki

,

Kublai Khan

,

kuribo

,

Pine

,

Seraphim

,

Shattered Viewpoint

, xRECKONERx, Zdenek

Rhinox

(2):

elvis_knits

, SpyreX

Ellibereth

(1):

DrippingGoofball

Fate

(1):

Hinduragi

Pine

(1): chunkykev

Shattered Viewpoint

(1):

springlullaby

Not Voting:

Lowell

,

Ellibereth

======================

Hoppster

(10): chunkykev,

kuribo

,

Lowell

,

Fate

,

Pine

,

Pine

,

Seraphim

, xRECKONERx, xRECKONERx, Zdenek

Fate

(1):

Hoppster

======================

DrippingGoofball

(8): Chunkykev,

DrippingGoofball

,

Fate

,

Katsuki

,

Kublai Khan

,

Lowell

,

Seraphim

,

Pine

Seraphim

(2):

Ellibereth

, Zdenek
xRECKONERx (2): Elvis knits,

Kublai Khan

Zdenek (1): xRECKONERx

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Lowell

[DrippingGoofball]

Please watch for the scum hammering Seraphim.

[DrippingGoofball]

THIS IS WHY I HESITATE

If we mislynch a town players today (+ scum NK), then
8 players
4 scum & 4 town --- scum win

[DrippingGoofball]

I see.

I might hammer then.

[DrippingGoofball]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[DrippingGoofball]

Can a couple of townies kindly unvote so that we can discuss this?

[DrippingGoofball]

If there's a surprise hammer as things sit its still ok.

I'm not buying it because the timetable doesn't make any sense and if I have to go become a super sleuth to prove it I will but laazy.

Do it Cliff's Notes and I'll hammer.

[DrippingGoofball]

If true, I guess we lost without lynching a single scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Or DGB faked the whole tracker claim and pulled the wool over everyone's eyes.

Nope.

I hope you're not scum. I don't think you are. Am I right?

[DrippingGoofball]

LOWELL