Cultural Revolution is Over!

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Hey everyone, hopefully I can catch up on reading these 1100 posts and post a response later this afternoon or evening.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Ok after spending about 3-4 hours reading this whole thing, two particular things jumped out at me:

1. Bacde claimed to be recruited on N1
2. BJ's post about chamber probably being recruited.

The first item caught my attention because Fritzler was lynched day 2 and it was revealed that he was recruited, which means the recruitment could only have been done on N1, thus contradicting Bacde's claim.

The second item caught my attention because since nobody has come out about being recruited N3 and N4, chamber's likehood of being recruited on either night is pretty high considering how he had nailed so many scum. Also notice chamber started having innocent results instead of guilty ones on days 4 and 5. Plus chamber investigated Pooky, which from what I remember was not one of the players that the town wanted to investigate. This could mean that chamber is now a member of one of the Red Guard groups and tries to clear his fellow scum each day.

This leads to me having highest suspicions for Pooky and Bacde since they are the two players that have been cleared by chamber. I'll

vote: bacde

since chamber declared him innocent when there was a wagon developing on him.

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After Bacde's last post, there are 3 possibilities I can think of:

1. If shamrock's claim was true and Bacde's claim of recruited N2 and N3 was true, we may have the

Red Guards as a completely separate scum group from the Yunans and Elites

. Note Fritzler's lynch scene where Hop Shui said that Fritz "sworn allegiance" to the Red Guards and not Yunan nor Elite. And that opens up whole new possibilities.

2. If only one of them is telling the truth, the liar is probably a recruiter who knew about all the recruitments and is trying to clear themselves from being recruiters since our main lynch targets are recruiters. In this case Bacde would be more likely to be the liar since shamrock claimed first. The Red Guard group possibility is still possible in this case.

3. If neither told the truth, both players are part of the same scum group with one of them being the recruiter and one of them being a recruitee. And the Red Guard could very well be that scum group.

If there is a third independent "regular" Red Guard group, that increases the chances of chamber being recruited even more. So the only way to see what is actually true is either test it out with a lynch or let whoever was recruited on nights 3 and 4 come out. But since nobody has come out yet, that probably means whoever got recruited on nights 3 and 4 accepted their invitations.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Pooky signed up for that new theme game a couple of days ago, so she is around. As for Nemesis's claim, I will need to go back and reread some posts and see if I can find anything more.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Mod, can we get prods on some players who haven't posted in a long time such as Pooky?

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I agree with Thok, I also need to hear more from Y since it sounds more made up than truthful with just the name and the role. If the flavor is not very convincing, I would consider dropping the hammer and worry about Bacde/shamrock/chamber situation the next day.

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I think that was the hammer viper, let us see what is Y's true role when our mod reveals it to us.

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I think Yos pointed out something interesting in his post above this one. "The Maoists came for him" probably means that scum targetted glork in addition to the docs. So I think now the two scum groups are exclusively doing kills since both their recruiters are dead too.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

vote chamber

pretty sure he's recruited

I'm pretty sure I wasnt. Last night I investigated thok.

So you claim to have investigated 3 innocents in a row now, including thok who was conveniently night-killed last night and revealed to be townie. Plus from what I read Thok was pretty pro-town thoughout the game. You look more likely to be already recruited than ever before,

vote: chamber

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I think viper is telling the truth with his claim, that said, BJ has a good point in post 1389, using viper as a vig can definately help the town. Also it was quite alarming to see viper's wagon grow to 2 away from lynch in around 2 days, so there is probably some scum on that wagon.

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I don't think viper is the lynch today since he probably realizes now that he is a vig, he can actually help the town by giving bad or useless medicine to who he thinks is scum. I also do not see coron as scum and the rapid growth of that wagon was alarming, theres probably some scum on that wagon. I still think chamber was recruited and is just throwing out fake investigations, so my vote stands.

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vote: chamber

to follow up on my suspicions in previous days.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

chamber with the deadline so close now and you having some votes, you probably need to go with the consensus here and reveal your results.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

I think Zindaras is onto something with pooky while I don't see anything wrong with yosarian today, so

vote: pooky

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Vismaior and coron raised some good points, I'll

unvote

. I probably will not be able to post before the deadline again.

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I just had the idea, what are our prospects of mass claiming at this point? I can see the downside of letting scum know about everyone's roles and I can see the upside of spotting whos lying based on information, the flavor, etc.

discuss.

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I'll be going on vacation from june 29th ~ july 9th with very little possibility of internet access.

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*high fives scum buddy*

Way to go Twomz! you survived quite a few days and nights by yourself, very impressive

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with all the propaganda, brainwahing, etc. I think it makes sense that some people will be recruited and still have their powers like what happened with me being a scum vig.