Mafia with the Quickness 2 GAME OVER!

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VOTE: Imperium

They need to die. Don't ask why.

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We're a miller.

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I cannot allow this

You're evil.

and i'm an encryptor. rock papers scissors for who gets to die d1?

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Real. Look at my face.

Does it look serious? That's what I thought.

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Hmmm

Active Lurking 101. Why did anyone proxy his/her vote to her?

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So PN, if Imperium is not scum we can kill you next?

Of course, seems fair.

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If I say yes, would you assume I am a jester?

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Say I were to counterclaim this???

We'll gladly take the 1 for 1 trade.

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Say I were to counterclaim this???

We'll gladly take the 1 for 1 trade.

But what if I was seriously counter-claiming???

Chicken!

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I have an urge to address Tammy and Mollie as

TAMALE

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I feel like this setup is a trap. Two neighborizers already, wording that implies multiple encryptors...

If SAD counterclaims and there are two town millers, I will lose it completely.

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I legitimately thought Bulba was fishing for reactions and was joking about encrypting

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Nacho and Falcon used their neighborhood QT as a hydra QT in Tammy's Wicked game.

It made them seem more town to Medea or Mina (forget which or both)

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I legitimately thought Bulba was fishing for reactions and was joking about encrypting

Is desperado a bulbazak alt?

It's midnight and I just recently finished a game, playing card, with both of them where both were scum

Brain fart sorry

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qt's aren't available during the day so how does that make sense/how is it even relevant?

Is this a slip?

You said you enable daytalk and now you say QT's aren't available during the day. Which is it?

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Oh.

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im in another concurrent neighborhood game that is strictly nighttalk only and i'm kind of stoned right now

I'm not stoned, but I confused you with Bulbazak throughout this whole game, I don't even know how.

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Juls would you be okay being lynched if they flip town???

dat chaining

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I think SAD is scum, and his reads list is pure hubris.

VOTE: SAD

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So Oversoul and Mastin/Slice of Pie are probably scum... likely together.

Helium just feels all over the place and not really attacking genuinely? But at the same time the points they've chosen to focus on don't really make me think "scum motivation".

Still think Juls might be scum? I mean I would be frustrated with mollie really regardless, but I'll hold off on actually getting a concert read till I might ISO them soon or just generally wait for more posts.

Skrew/Sugo/Tamcho are all leaning town. I guess? Idrk yet I guess but w/e I'll be able to sort it out later.

I feel like I should have a read on not_mafia but I don't. I'll do some ISOs when I actually get coffee.

Also Mastin is probably gonna call this post bad. The preemptive response is "lol".

Your chaotic dayvig thing bothers me, it didn't generate discussion. Half of your reads are non-opinions pretty much, aka pure hubris. Also why are you going after helium so early instead of letting mollie do her D1 thing before we judge

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ow scum is this on a scale from 10 to 10

if neighborhood QT's aren't available during the day, someone needs to speak up, like now

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Why wouldn't there being two neighborizers be disputed? Setup spec impinges on gameplay.

It's not like you discussed my miller claim at length *shrug*

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Bert you've already played with me in 169 you should know this is how I play???

death tunneling style? you're not doing that here

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Do you guys think a massclaim would help

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is anyone reading this fuckin game???

I'll read again

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scum got snowed in dark age of the law? do you want me to pollute the thread even further?

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I don't understand Tammy's meta-ing reads so far. Someone needs to verify whether she's portraying those past games like they actually were

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Your reads so far have been supported by meta 90%! I'm actually going to take the route I do with Mollie and leave you alone for the majority of D1, worry about you later.

I'll be very light when I talk to you!

Is this Bert? If so, why aren't you addressing me? If you have concerns I'm lolmisreprepresenting a game, why aren't you interacting with me about it?

:effort: I'm not sure how interacting with you would help me read you at all, given my success rate (0?) at reading you

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"Engaging" Ffery doesn't help me read her, and it's the same way with you!

Also, I feel like these quick games could use some poetry and wordcount restrictions. How about everyone write sonnets only, or be lynched

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Yeah, Tammy's not a priority but gotta throw her a bone I guess to keep her satisfied, but also gotta make her feel the heat so she contributes stuff.

Wait, I could say the same thing about my poodle. I think I'll shut up now!

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Please address this

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tick tock

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mr meta

Who is that?

So what was your point? And do you have issue with the reads I did give?

I have my reasons. --->

Yeah, Tammy's not a priority but gotta throw her a bone I guess to keep her satisfied, but also gotta make her feel the heat so she contributes stuff.

So, what kind of treats do you like?

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Would you like some joint health, or omega, or Vitamin D, or some probiotics? There's some dental gel here too

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Yeah, I didn't really get time to though, you guys killed us night one!

You died Night 1 in my only game with Arthur. You'll probably die Night 1 here if town!

Exciting, right?

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Careful calling me not high priority might shatter my fragile ego

Sorting you is our lowest priority.

Everyone please repeat after me!

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Going to sheep Juls onto Helium

Looks like a good wagon.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Helium

I thought you were letting others proxy their vote to you.

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Happy Scumday, Hoopla!

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I played with Hoopla in a lurker festival (Open 548). Hoopla was scum.

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Ergo, she's dangerous.

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Wow, the pace of this game...

I skipped over mastin's wall in 644 btw. You're welcome!

If you're referring to my apparent knowledge of the game being multi-ball I'm assuming in case it was, they're likely scum together.

why are people bringing up multiball?!???

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Tammy is that something townSAD would NEVER say/do?

Pointless question about meta.

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Tammy isn't grading papers right now, everyone ask her lots of questions

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I doubt it's multiball

Why doubt?

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Oversoul feels fluffy so far.

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Yep.

VOTE: Oversoul

- hydra hijacked

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It took you less than a minute to go through his ISO?

Time is of the essence.

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Going to catch up for real now that I have a bit of time. But really quick Tammy, all posts today have been Pieguyn so far, not me.

lol you're held accountable for your posts regardless of which head posted it, can't get outta it

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SAD's tone is different than his tone in 169 so far...

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Anyone know who posted that picture in Wicked? Bonus points if you connect the dots

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Wrong! Shame on you!

Answer:

Mina built you it, shame shame shame

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Just kidding, Tammy wins bonus points!

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5698202

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I forgot he/she is even in this game.

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I don't feel like lynching either of the neighborizers/neighbor-whatevers Day 1.

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It's confusing to figure out, and Gaiden agrees it's not a priority. We were neighbors together in FakeGod's game and we got murdered having all 4 neighbors (town) be lynched (3) or killed (1).

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I've let Zach know my intentions and asked to have someone start reading up.

Hang in there. Replacing out won't do you any good, plus it's warning-worthy if deemed strategic.

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anyone wanna help me catch up? tel me where I should start reading? something important happened?

also, damnit, I wanted to replace to scumslot

VOTE: Shos

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slandaar

VOTE: shos

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Why do I keep botching quotes...

Oh wow slandaar could start doing something any minute now.

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bert can you plz draw a chair for her I am not at my computer so I don't have the image on hand.

Spoiler: Mollie's Interrogation Chair (view at your own discretion peeps)

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Goddamn bloody stool. You should get that checked out.

even my pet poodle has medicine for stools

TMI

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Happy Father's Day

Hope y'all eat more than you did on Mother's Day

Zzzzzzz

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I should probably just post only on library days as that's desktop and serious time, but this game DL is so fast, I am almost obligated to force myself to post, even to the game's detriment

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We agree that shos is scum and would like him killed!

you give me too much credit, oversoul. i am good in games where the conditions suit me.

"you overestimate me" is underwhelming self-meta defense

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You seemed apathetic in that Titus game! *squints*

Would anyone like a glass of pineapple juice?

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I have enough posts that anyone should have a read on me by now. Surely you can do without me for a day.

Shoo. You're low priority, off you go! Good Tammy.

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Yeah, shos's opening was self-destructively suspicious, everyone switch to him please.

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"also, damnit, i wanted to replace to scumslot" - screams scum replacing in, it's a classic tell

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also asking us to recap, you didnt count your chickens before they hatched. read first, then ask for recap, instead of asking us to lift the weight for you

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meta you about what exactly?

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I think my gut scumread was too preliminary on shos. I was like "shos stop acting like your scumminess isn't implicit." I think it's his extra flexibility ("who do I venge, etc., wait why, etc., etc.") after the vengeclaim that has me second-guessing. I'm also thinking "why on earth would Skrew claim that," it seems like a fodder claim.

Also, all this tunnel-vision (including myself) seems kinda scummy on the wagon. The stickiness in particular.

Shouldn't we use this to towns advantage and dictate who he shoots to optimize the chances of hitting scum?

My suggestion would be shoot the 2nd highest wagon at time of lynch.

This doesn't feel like an honest suggestion. I feel like you're overextending with this discussion about who he should venge.

VOTE: Jason

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WAIT A SECOND WAIT A SECOND WAIT A SECOND.

I NEED TO THINK.

do you still think not_mafia is scum or not? Y/N

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Pretend I came from a long-forgotten era where claiming vanilla meant jack nothing to keeping you out of the noose. Now, suddenly, you're transplanted to a time where a Vermont claim kills your wagon. Does that help you understand my confusion?

I don't understand your free thinking ways.

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I think Tammy and Helium discussing the link after painting SK as scummy looks pretty genuine town. I also am bothered by how multiple people keep asking the mod questions within the thread - it all seems really superficial.

Hoopla let's talk about Nonsense

What do you make of their claim and subsequent play despite Zach never using a Miller in his setups before (and publicly disliking the cop role)?

OK, so someone else brought up that Zach actually doesn't dislike millers or whatever, and so your reasons to look at my claim in a scummy light now look really, really fabricated. Now, you're backtracking like you're playing for appearances with the "OK so it makes sense"

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The only thing that doesn't bother me is that suggesting multiball is considered a scum slip these days.

Well, I started pointing that out after I saw people use it with success in one of FakeGod's games where scum accidentally hinted at multiball, so it seems effective.

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I unvoted earlier, so this is back to Lynch -1. Back to the future............

VOTE: shos

Left with mobile one-liners + zzzzzzz until DL, anyways. whatever

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Makes me chuckle that this is a game predicated on quickness, and we are using up every minute of the deadline.

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If Jason is scum, Tammy being alive and prone to waffle is a greater threat to him than dead Tammy who had a townread on him. Besides that, most scumteams with or without Jason in them would have considered her the optimal NK. How was she "tunneling" Not_Mafia anways? And I can't think of who else any scumteam would have shot.

Falcon/pie-town is a greater threat than Tammy and a nonexistent Nacho who hasn't made a single post.

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I feel like voting Mastin for not being flash-and-bang yet.

VOTE: Slice of Life

All this discussion about "why was Tammy killed" is enough to get town on the wrong track imo.

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You're voting a hydra because one head is inactive?

Dang you're Haylen? I didn't even know you would actually post much in this game considering how busy you are

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People keep calling us just Mastin. I exist too ;-;

You don't exist.

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consider my vote as pressure anyways, as I think he's avoiding this game after

6

days passing from his "promise to post on the right account soon"

he hasn't site flaked.

vote: slandaar

is he known to lurk as scum or something?

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Mastin has a problem with their computer, as I said before. So from now until they return, my reads are my own.

OK found this while surfing this game, so admittedly I suck at reading. I'll simmer down until another re-read

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I know that you can only be mean to people when you are scum and let me tell you that I do so as well. So I am going to forgive you on account you have a scum agenda <<<<< but if you are town mollie I am going to be so heartbroken I am going to let you know that right now.

why are your reads so in flux

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the deaths make me want to cry

poor vigs poor imperium

you sound like you're in a predicament, curious what the benefit of saying things like this is?

opposite of scum gloating here imo

VOTE: Saki

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Ugh, I was hoping no one would ask since now I have to give reasons and they're controversial. Be careful what you ask for.

<Hoopla, SAD, Saki>

then lurkers - Mastin, Slandaar

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SAD is being really different from 169 where he was a pinball machine tunneling people like me, he's way more calculated here.

Good work gang

This day is railroaded towards a shos lynch. Lets get on with it shall we??

hoopla for that frenetic optimism, while obscure about her/his full goals. most posts are short and dont have a great point in them

and Saki for making little sense at the end of D1, more of a "let's set up" kinda tone

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Why exactly are you wary of Sugoi?

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Okay, that sort of makes sense and vaguely in line with ours. How does Arthur feel calculated here as opposed to in NY169? What are your thoughts on JasonT1981 and SleepyKrew?

he doesnt have that inherent indignation of "guys i believe im right, sheep me or youre friggin scum" kinda 'tude

jason and sleepykrew are both volume posters, but not much of a hindrance really and certainly not going under the radar. id say nullish town based on them addressing things in a somewhat natural flow

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(If you guys missed it Jason is town btw)

Also I'm appalled by the fact the fact people missed Slandaar's reeking scumpost. Like I haven't seen a scummier sentence in my life as much as that second sentence.

I saw that. i think it reads "scum claim"?
gah. i want to hammer that.

UNVOTE:

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wow so SAD might actually be town

VOTE: Slandaar

Claim please

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L-1

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Gaiden and I agree that Hoopla's our top candidate

why are people discounting a Jason-target completely - Jason if town narrows down scum's options for mislynches

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hi Skrew have a chill pill

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VOTE: slice of life

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that X is either America's/Britain's/etc. Got Talent or Family Feud

Leaning towards the latter

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mastina
mastinanana
mastinananananana
mastinana

mastinaaaaaa
masssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssteeeeeeeeeeeeenuhhhhh
masss teeeeen AHHHHHHHHHHH
masteeeeeeeeeeeeeena
mastina
más tina, live más

x10¡¡¡¡¡¡

repeat after me

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiBYM6g8Tck

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Gotta re-read tonight so I'm able to notice where people have changed their tunes about reads...

There are no comments about the quick day yesterday and ======[], who else finds the silence deafening?

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I was so wrong about Hoopla and Speedy. No powerful.

BRB.

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Life gave me lemons.

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Speedy S needs examined and pushed hard... her buddying with Sleepy K towards end of day 2 concerns me greatly... I believe the 2 maybe linked. Speedy is acting like an erratic hyper teenage girl with no opinions of their own... translation stupid bimbo

yoohoo Speedy Saki is pretty much confirmed to be NS's mason partner

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So SKrew baby did you commute the last two nights?

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I like.

VOTE: Skrew

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How did Sudoku slip?

/mobile one liners :/

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Gaiden asked me to do this today. Imagine it as The Collective's wave.

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it's
scum: 2 goons, 1 day rolecop
town: roleblocker, tracker, supersaint, vig, 6 VTs

That makes sense, actually. It explains why the vig and doc are both X-shot this time around, which means more town PR possibilities that are less powerful.

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Desp Desps 2104 seems weird to me... its like he is announcing confirmed towns to scum, helping identify confirmed town so they can take out confirmed towns and leave non confirmed for lynches hoping for mislynches.

desp claimed encryptor so why would he need to hint to his buddies in thread?

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Intent.
--Hijacked

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Intent.
--Hijacked

It's not actually Lynch -1, brah.

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SAKI/SS= G/PN.

Make of that what you will.

So it kinda actually is L-1, in a weird weird way. You all have been warned.

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and i'm saying sogokuscum is better than that. i don't think d2 happens the way it does if sogoku's scumteam with daytalk was in the position it was. period.

I actually do need to go look back at the competing wagons of T-Bone vs. Falcon and Broseidon vs. Falcon again in Wicked because one was scum vs. scum and the other was town vs. scum. I *think* Falcon is town but Mollie was in Wicked and might be onto something. Gotta make sure. So if you're looking for sugoku-scum vs. town or scum wagons, that game's a good one and pretty recent. I'll discuss it since I was in it too.

Desperado actually seems rly town in the last 2 pages

not feeling confident, so will get my reads in tonight, hold up

UNVOTE:

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Desp is like the Proph of 169.

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Desp from 169 died too early and doesn't exist, plus i dont recall colorful VCA's from Desp from 169

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hype hype hype
Impossible to overhype this

do you like trolling? lol

half of me feels pretty hypocritical for wanting to lynch you partly because of your claim, and then there are people in thread commenting about your "strong scumgame" so I really have no idea what you're doing today.

but keep trolling if scum

Back to my research.

??????

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There is no hype! I hear tennis grunts only - Vika/Sharapova style.

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Read list please, SK (the alive one)

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I thought this too, but then I went and reread On a Boat, and before he ended up replacing out (which made him obvtown) he was pretty active and pushing things. I then did a search for him as scum. It's been a pretty long time since he's played scum because he doesn't play that often! I can't remember what game that was now though, it was a mini I know that, but he and his partners ended up getting lynched in successive days. I got kinda tired of meta reading as I don't do it all that well and look for things on tone. I thought that his refusal to rethink Juls was something that made him more likely scum because often times scum have a hard time rethinking their reads. But in On a Boat, he stayed after ffery for a good long while, so :/

Noting this. Tammy never did the meta btw.

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=31330

OK I think that's the game Tammy was talking about, because he and his partners got lynched on Days 4, 5, and 6 - consecutively.

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Y'all fuckers gonna let me say my piece and do my thang before I boogie on out.

what's your piece bro

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VOTE: SleepyPooh

it'll just be relieving if he's

dead

scum, i dont feel great about it because i suck at setup spec and claim analysis, but whatever

i gave u a chance to interact and u blew me off so no regrets

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i remember that game where GIF ran it in micro, and we had to choose which of the two people in our pool at night was scum, like 9 people, 1 scum in each 3 person pool where you try to pair up.

and so we literally rolled a virtual dice in our head

and picked blindly

and lost

i hate this

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it wasn't gaiden's virtual dime's fault, i blame mathematics

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so who are jason's partners then

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FUCKING YES! EAT THAT, SLEEPY!!

^scum gloating

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Do you think Sugoku-Jason is a team? I don't see why Sugoku-scum pushes for SKrew so hard yesterday if Feu's scum. In that case, only Jason-Sugoku makes sense. Assume Jason-town. Jason is convenient for Sudoku to push to avoid bussing SKrew.

Going out of town and packing. BBL

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lol

VOTE: Oversoul

he's back to having very few alternatives for a real mislynch possibility, so he's going back to "miller doesn't exist." but if you look back, he mentioned a few times how Zach doesn't have a problem with millers.

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there's precedence for millers w/o cops, people

Yeah, Zach apparently endorses this.

^lynch this

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Preparing the runway for takeoff

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We accept being a PoE lynch eventually!

They should make a Hollywood movie on us.

We'll lifetime it up.

/apathy

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We don't feel confident in our reads. I would say lynch us to weed out scum (we are just really lazy town), but that would bring you to LYLO and isn't really pro-town to say.

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Activity isn't alignment indicative.

That's a stretch and depends on interest.

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We're content letting rest of town carry us.

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Who do you think is town then? Who are you trusting? Have they been right so far?

Sugoku and Helium. They have been accurate for the most part.

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I've been lazy to post (therefore scummy) and can't be arsed today.

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Tammy still ended up lynching me in that game, miller claim or not

I've been much more low-key here rather than deranged

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I dunno, maybe just lynch me and take me out of the equation? I feel like the general consensus is that I could be scum with anyone so maybe just see that I'm not and go from there?

it's really bad that i feel the same way too

im fine with being POEd tbh, it's like 126 pages and i havent done anything for like

126 pages. lol

and like ive been here since day 1 so.....

the louder i get the more scummy i seem, as evidenced in that Titan game, so it's not like this game misses noise

it's funny though, like in march or april i remember on skype when tammy was playing with shadoweh and gaiden and co.

like, i drew miller in consecutive games, and tammy was like "bert r u a miller again'

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here i am 3 months

tempted to bring out the Miller Time commercial or a Reggie Miller sign

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hold on re-reading

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VOTE: Jason

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i think the townieness come from a certain lack of Gaiden talking.
he just bleeds scum...

-hijacked.

pedit: i'm now off work and had dinner.
pedit x2: stop talking.

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god dammit. posting right now is a test of patience.
also, lol he was at L-2.

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did ya now?

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i have this thing against rash voting in any situation. in a FG game, someone asked me the same thing while i was pondering the existence of a 2 man scum team in a mini theme.

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this isn't bert.
fun fact: this is a hydra.
pedit:
i was thinking about something that bugged me.
i'll elaborate when i have more thoughts on the matter.

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all i got was that either i'm conf scum or both scum are on my wagon.
or is my logic wrong?
pedit: that

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seeing as how "narrowing down" in this case means "after hammer we win anyways" i don't see your point.

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yup
VOTE: SAD

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fun fact: if i self-hammer here, it is a mod-killable offense.

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At the very least, this setup was lolworthy

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LYLOs suck. I'm not even pressuring singer to make a choice btw.

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besides, any case i make right now is confbias cos of the votes right now, so yeah

this is my prod dodge.

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i never asked for singer to "just hammer pn".

I

am asking Singer to hammer PN.

not so much asking as ordering...