Pathfinder Mafia - GAME OVER

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Just to be clear, most people are town-reading Vezok because of meta right?

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Vezok never had a mason claim.

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Nero claimed masons with Action Dan in one of his first posts.

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That's what I've been trying to figure out since day 1 now.
Some of the reasons I've gotten have been:

Vezok was willing the be curt about his role, recognized Titus was being inane but didn't put it against her (only compromised there for need of a wagon), and has organic reads build from observation and interaction.

I honestly don't get where people are scum-reading him. Maybe some Ank OMGUS but that's it?

Vezok is town as shit and his role is confirm-able.

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Alternatively, we literally all could PM the mod the same question or set of questions, asking
"Is the predetermined point of survival the same for all players?"
"Where will it be announced when a player gains a level from this--in the thread or via PM?"

So on and so forth.
It is literally that easy.

I did ask the first question. Mod said he couldn't answer.
If Jaqen is scum, it would be because of a slip.

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Also quick question. How many scum would we expect there to be left?

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I don't really want Jaqen lynched. Is the main case against him he leveled up? Everyone should ask the mod whether all town levels up at the same time.

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The people I want lynched are
Serra or Vezok. Both are pretty bad right now with regard to their pushes. They were also strongly scum reading each other earlier and that seems to have disappeared. I do not see both being town.
I also wouldn't hate a Varsoon lynch, but I'd rather do Serra or Vezok.
(Still would join an Ank lynch too.)

VOTE: Serra
More likely to happen than a Vezok lynch.

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Huh? For the first few paragraphs it looked like you were arguing he was town.

When we all level at the same time, it'll be really damn clear that Jaqen's been lying through his teeth,

so I'm fine if we have to waste time mislynching other fools as time will expose this cretin anyway, but you'll be damned if I'm putting my vote anywhere else. The way he walled up against Dragons and furthermore, how he walled against me, is evidence of someone who's defensive and willing to make a lot of noise to confuse town. Dude's scum. Vote for it. Or don't,

realize when we all level up and the notification goes out, in-thread, for all of us, that you were wrong.

Regardless, he eats rope.

If something like this happens, I'll be more than willing to admit I was wrong.
I agree his play has been awkward, but I struggle to find the scum motive behind it.

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Varsoon is at L-2? When we go a route, I'd be fine with Andrius getting the hammer if he gets a vig kill.
Would like to hear more from Serra first.
Also, would like to know what Ankamius is thinking right now.

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I've been busy, but this day is going no where.
I'll give hammer to Andrius on Varsoon?
I don't like Serra townreading Varsoon, but I think it's our best shot at this rate.

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I don't like it because it makes me doubt Varsoon would be scum with you.

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I had a pm that said clearly that hte pre-set point levels all players.

This should have been resolved a long time ago.
I asked the mod if the predetermined points for leveling up were the same for all players and he couldn't answer.
The English language is a fickle beast; are you sure your question was worded in a way that is clear?

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Vote Count #3

Jaqen Hghar - 4 (Varsoon, ZZZX, serrapaladin, vezokpiraka)

Dat wagon.

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Why? Because he slipped?

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This day needs to end. Where are you Andrius?

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Also, whatever happened to Vezok and Serra's scum reads on each other?

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Oh. Nm, Serra is still scum reading Vezok.

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And only because I want 5 posts in a row because I'm vain like that,
I think Ankamius is town now.

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So do you think the last two scum are Jaqen and Serra?

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Because I'm adopting the popular meta where I shoot off town reads with no explanation in an effort to look town.

Because I agreed completely with Post 3402 which makes it more likely you have a town brain.

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ugghh.

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I just pmed T-bone again.
He told me no one would recieve notification regarding another player leveling up.

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Well, I doubt you would have waited until day 3 to mention catching scum on night 1. But lynched scum is lynched scum

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Want to just hammer Varsoon, Andrius? I don't really think this day will progress any further.
I also would rather you vig kill Serra over ZZZX now. But it's your call I suppose.
(Sorry Varsoon. If it makes you feel better, I'll feel bad about lynching you if you flip town.)

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Well no, he's at L-2.

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I could set you up though.

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VOTE: Varsoon

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Thank you, Thank you.
The LOTR have inspired me in a lot of things. If I had to pick one set of movies or books to experience, it would be LOTR.
(I'm sure yours would be cool if I understood it. )

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Interesting. The only anime I ever watched were Deathnote and a good chunk of Naruto. I enjoyed them a lot though.

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I also read this manga that a kid had lying around in a cabin I led at a summer camp. I read it whenever the kids were off running around doing activities and crap. The story involved rabbits and a mafia rip-off game where it ended with the surprise villain hypnotizing one of the last survivors to kill the main character, and it was really sad. Then I wondered whether I regretted reading it or not and couldn't decide.
True story.

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With the psycho girl and God?

Yes

Ugh, dumbasses

Serra's posting is the only thing that makes me think Varsoon may be town. She seems to know he is town.

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That's Mirai Niki. It's a cool story.

That might be the one. Although I think psycho girl and some form of God describes all anime.

Are you scum?

Calling the town dumbasses for lynching someone who has a really solid case against them makes me wonder if you're just going for town credit in a Varsoon flips town result.
Although there's not much to say until he actually does flip. On the flip side, Varsoon not posting at all in this time gives me hope he will still flip scum.

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No one is lynching you because of Tammy being protected Varsoon. (I don't think.)
I was actually wanting to lynch Serra or Vezok over you at first, but after engaging with you this day, and you did some moves that made no sense as town, I changed my mind.
Town did not just get lucky with this lynch. 3 scum in a row is not something that is luck either.
And I'm more comfortable with Serra town now.

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Before you go, cat pictures?

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(Sorry you feel that way btw)

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No one is lynching you because of Tammy being protected Varsoon. (I don't think.)
I was actually wanting to lynch Serra or Vezok over you at first, but after engaging with you this day, and you did some moves that made no sense as town, I changed my mind.
Town did not just get lucky with this lynch. 3 scum in a row is not something that is luck either.
And I'm more comfortable with Serra town now.

Actually no this makes me want to lynch serra even more.

Well, at first I thought scum Serra wouldn't have done something she would know would make her look dumb after. But I could also see it as frustration for losing all her partners for reasons she may not have fully appreciated.

There's something missing in the games I've played/etc and I can't quite put my finger on it but they're just not the same.

off

.

From a newcomer's perspective (me), I would agree that there's something generally missing in this forum's games. The games I play on another forum that introduced me to this game are ridiculously fun. I just don't have quite the same level as enjoyment here. Not bad-talking the people here or anything, I like everyone here. Just that, yea, something is off. Maybe it's the current site meta.

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Good point.
OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH YEEEEEEEEAAAAA!
TITUS, DRAGONS, GUY IN FREEZER, TAMMY! Y'ALL JUST BEEN AVENGED!

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Yes, he was hammered. This is just really long twilight. Although I don't mind because twilight is generally my favorite part of the game.

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I'm down to lynching both of them. Who are we lynching first?

I've read everything but don't have anything to post.
Lynch jaqen.

Don't rule out Vezok either.

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LEVEL UP!

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I used my power on Action Dan night 1, and he will basically never die now. I hope your skill is as good as you say.

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I think this game is already won. I'd be down for a quicklynch on Vezok. He's the only one I'm not town reading at this stage.

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VOTE: Vezokpiraka

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By the way, I learned the other night that the Ranger is definitely town. So the Ranger may want to claim.

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Nero, you should really say why you claimed masons. At least in the neighborhood. It's not like Action Dan can be killed now so it's safe.

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Final Day 1 Vote Count

Titus

- 10

(

Varsoon

,

Tammy

,

d3x

, MonkeyMan576,

BBMolla

, vezokpiraka,

GuyInFreezer

, Nero Cain,

Here There Be Dragons

,

ActionDan

)

Varsoon

- 2 (Muffin, displaced)
Ankamius - 3 (

Titus

, PeregrineV, ZZZX)
vezokpiraka - 1 (

serrapaladin

)
PeregrineV - 1 (Ankamius)

d3x

- 2 (Fluminator, Fluminator)

Not Voting - 1 (

Narninian

)

Vote Count

d3x

- 2 (

Tammy

,

Varsoon

)
MonkeyMan576 - 1 (ZZZX)

Albert B. Rampage

- 9 (ActionDan, Andrius, Fluminator, Nero Cain, vezokpiraka,

d3x

, Jaqen Hghar,

Here There Be Dragons

,

Narninian

)

vezokpiraka - 2 (

serrapaladin

, Ankamius)
Ankamius - 1 (MonkeyMan576)

Not Voting - 2 (

Albert B. Rampage

, displaced)

Vote Count #7

MonkeyMan576 - 1 (ActionDan)
ZZZX - 1 (Ankamius)

Varsoon

- 2 (Nero Cain, ZZZX)

d3x

- 8 (Andrius, Fluminator, MonkeyMan576,

Varsoon

,

Narninian

, MattP, vezokpiraka,

d3x

)

Narninian

- 1 (Jaqen Hghar)

Not Voting - 2 (

serrapaladin

,

Tammy

)

#3510 lynch was achieved...hold for write-up.

Vote Count Final

Varsoon

- 7 (Nero Cain, Ankamius, MonkeyMan576, Jaqen Hghar,

Narninian

, Fluminator, Andrius)

Jaqen Hghar - 4 (

Varsoon

, ZZZX,

serrapaladin

, vezokpiraka)

Not Voting - 2 (ActionDan, MattP)

Posting this for reference. Assuming Dragons and Narninian are town which is a safe assumption.

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Interesting that Vezok didn't mention leveling up.

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Do you know if you got hit last night Narn?

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Who'd you potion night 3 Vezok? I forget if you mentioned it.

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Looking at the wagons.
At the end, Vezok wasn't on the Varsoon wagon despite claiming Varsoon was scummy. He was on the Jaqen wagon instead.
For d3x, everyone remembers him accidentally giving d3x the quick hammer.
He was on the Albert wagon too, but remember he was the counter wagon that day.
He also joined the Titus wagon once it started picking up steam.
Summary: Vezok had done nothing town in any of the wagons.

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Nero. Don't be on obtuse. Tell the neighborhood why you're town reading Action Dan.

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I didn't kill serra.

Him being the only death is incredibly odd because I seriously don't see scum killing him. I don't get it. I really don't. Especially with the TOWNBLOC and Narninian running rampant.

What? Who'd you try to kill?

I very much dislike Flum, so if ZZZX isn't around and since Cephir isn't here. I'm going to kill you.

I don't like you either. So at least we have something in common.
If you kill me, I'll definitely have to call you one of the worst players I've come across. If you really think I'd bus 3 teammates, you need a reality check.

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I liked Flum day 1 and 2, but he's been fairly lurky lately.

Really? I thought I've been a heck of a lot more active the last days than I was at the start.

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If you really think I'd bus 3 teammates, you need a reality check.

Considering that I've caught both ABR and Varsoon, why do you feel that I should town read you for being on all the scum lynches but you are unwilling to offer me the same courtesy?

I think you are more likely town. I just don't like you as a player. (I'm sure your a great person in real life though.)

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If you really think I'd bus 3 teammates, you need a reality check.

Considering that I've caught both ABR and Varsoon, why do you feel that I should town read you for being on all the scum lynches but you are unwilling to offer me the same courtesy?

I think you are more likely town. I just don't like you as a player. (I'm sure your a great person in real life though.)

So you apparently don't think I'm scum and yet you are worried about me claiming masons? like that doesn't even make sense.

I'm role is very closely linked with Action Dan, and it would be extraordinarily nice to be sure on his alignment. If you have some reason to think he's town, there is absolutely no reason to keep it a secret at this point and you are really just being a tool.

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I should also point out that if you guys do lynch Action Dan in the near future, I'll die with him. Not that it's that big of a deal because unless town is Nero level dumb, I don't see us losing anyway.

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I have some sort of blood bond with him.

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I picked it N1 to eventually protect him back when I believed he was a mason thanks to Nero's brilliant play.
I've breadcrumbed it so.

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vote:Flum

Since he has a blood bond with AD and everyone thinks AD is scum lets just lynch here today.

If I die. It doesn't affect AD. It's one way.

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Seems rather convinient.

Convenient for what?

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I'm under suspicion? After 3 scum lynches? Seriously?
No, if I die, AD doesn't.
If AD dies, I do.

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I'm done with this. Bye.
Keeping vote on Vezok for probably rest of game until he's dead.
I don't follow Monkey at all. He says I've been lurking lately when I've been much more active lately than earlier in the game. That literally does not make sense.
(<3 you Matt)

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pedit2: Flum come baaaack! <3

Sorry, it's my bed time.
I'm the summoner though. First choice.

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Having trouble falling sleep and checked back in to find a very interesting post from Vezok.
It's especially interesting because do you know who else thought Dragons was the Ranger? D3X. 2788 It's the only way I see him claiming that class.
When I said the Ranger is definitely town, it probably would have been more accurate to say he was 90% likely to be town because there is a very small chance D3X claimed a buddy's class, but I think that's too risky for someone who was being set up for a bus already.

So Tl:Dr
D3X claimed Ranger before dying yet flipped Cleric.
Ranger has to be Dragons or scum. Much more likely to be Dragons.
Scum know Dragons is Ranger.
Vezok just claimed "We think Dragons is Ranger"

Pedit: 4 scum buddies???? I was hoping there were only 4 scum this game.

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Just this last night (N4 now?) I was reading iso's of scum and noticed D3X claiming a role he was not. Thus, I learned that the Ranger was Dragons and almost definitely town.
Lol.

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Let's look at Vezok more in depth.

Day 1:
Doesn't really do much this day other than town read Titus, and join the Ank bw. He also complains that people shouldn't be talking about the miller claim in 464, and then he talks about the miller claim in 697 and 731 and 739.
He also scum reads Serra after Serra scum reads Vezok. (I should point out that Vezok doesn't give a reason for scum reading Serra until the end of day 2 after constant badgering to get him to give a reason.)
Really only ever defends himself with self meta. 1108 1114 1129 and a few posts after that.
Despite town reading Titus, changes his mind and thinks Titus is scum when the wagon picks up a lot of steam and Titus claims.

Day 2:
Vezok does almost literally does nothing other than keep a vote on Serra for no reasons given.
I should point out that Varsoon/Vezok interactions seemed really off to me and was part of the reason I wanted Varsoon lynched. You guys should re-read Varsoon's Iso and see all his posts with Vezok.
He eventually changes his votes to MM the reason being because he wanted votes to consolidate on a wagon. 2031
Calls Andrius scum and never brings it up again despite being asked. 2046
Finally is forced into making a case against Serra in 2138. It was underwhelming to say the least. Dragons thought Vezok was scum for it.
Eventually joins the ABR wagon which was his counterwagon.

Day 3:
Spends a lot of the day saying Varsoon is scum. Varsoon handled it very differently compared to how he handled other people calling him scum. Again, you should read Vezok/Varse interactions.
It's really all he does that day other than give d3x the self hammer.

Day 4:
Once again spends most of the day saying Varsoon is scum. Then he presses for a Jaqen lynch.

Day 5:
Says, "We think Dragons is the Ranger" when the scum team knew Dragons was the ranger. (Check my 3742)
Says something about 4 scum buddies. If he was town, the natural thing to do would have been to assumed 4 scum. 3740

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Oh yea. Also forgot to mention he has made absolutely no claim or hint to having leveled up. If he was town, he almost definitely would have leveled up.

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No comments on the Vezok case?

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Flum, how many scum do you think are in this game?

I really don't feel like engaging with you right now in my current mood. But I guess this game is a good way to learn how to work with people you don't enjoy being with.
4 or 5. Hopefully 4 so this game can be wrapped up quicker.

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Why would I worry? I have absolutely no interest in anything you think.

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I was hoping you'd give me something witty Nero. I guess it was foolish of me to expect anything clever from you though. lol

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Sorry. Couldn't resist. I'll stop now.

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Hmm, well ZZZX did say he's apathetic at this point. I could see scum or town ZZZX being apathetic. It's null for me.

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People should at least be fighting their lynch if they're town. I want 4 scum flipped in a row.

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Sorry if I was unnecessarily snarky to you Nero. I actually don't hate you either.

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I've been studying for finals all day, and they all happen these next few days, so I'll be much less active for a bit, so I'll just leave with this for now.
Most Town
8. Narninian - Dragons probably isn't scum. I don't think Narn is acting like scum would be in a town-confirmed position either.
13. Andrius - Helped lynch 3 scum. That would be quite stupid of him if he was scum.
17. Nero Cain - I do believe Varsoon slipped that Nero was town in Twilight on N3. I'd be down for a policy lynch on him because he does nothing beneficial to the town but induce apathy and bully people (I was surprised to learn he was 30), but if he flips scum I will be shocked.
4. MattP - I don't see any scum motive in his actions.
2. Jaqen Hghar - The level up is a little weird now that it seems the entire town leveled up. I still don't see any scum motive though.
3. ActionDan - Ehh, Probably town. Lynching him today would be quite dumb given he some cop role. We have the luxury time to test it.
11. ZZZX - He does come across as genuine, but he hasn't done anything overly town. Think he's more likely town though.
10. Ankamius - Very slight town, only because of day 4.
6. MonkeyMan576 - If I'm wrong on a townread, it's probably MM. His switch on me makes absolutely no sense other than scum desperate for extra lynches. I've heard he generally makes no sense, but I really don't give a crap about meta like that.
14. vezokpiraka - Gave my case on him already.
Most Scum

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Vezok isn't suspecting me.
I've been breadcrumbing it for a very long time. If you think it through for two seconds, you'll realize there is no scum motive behind claiming it either. It's just the truth.

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Did you even read it?

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There is scum motive if you're trying to save ActionDan from being scumlynched.

Ahh, I see, this could be some long convoluted breadcrumb and move to save ActionDan, my scum bud. You got me there.

I was talking about Nero.

[Quote="Nero Cain"I very much dislike Flum, so if ZZZX isn't around and since Cephir isn't here. I'm going to kill you.

I'm assuming he's talking about your towniness, and not just disliking you personally.

I honestly do not understand you.

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Neither do you. Granted you've been lurking lately.

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Well, the fact that you think I'm scum reading Nero proves you aren't even reading my posts.
(Also the fact that you accused me of lurking when I've been much more active than you for the last couple of game days.)

How many scum do you think there are in this game?

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Where do you get the impression I'm scum reading Action Dan? What?
Whatever logic I'm using, it's gotten me to figure out 3 scum so far which is better than you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Action Dan is far from being someone I trust 100% I assumed you actually had a reason for town reading him that was solid or else you wouldn't have claimed mason. I didn't realize you'd do such an objectively bad play like that.

You actually got me to chuckle out loud with your last part of that post. That is just gold. Thanks for giving me a laugh.
(Please be sure to re-read that later on.)

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I'm not pissed at you. And I already apologized for being snarky earlier on.
And if I find out there was a good reason for the mason claim postgame, I'll take back that last comment too. You definitely aren't giving me hope though.

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I'd be down for a policy lynch on him because he does nothing beneficial to the town but induce apathy and bully people (I was surprised to learn he was 30)

Whatever logic I'm using, it's gotten me to figure out 3 scum so far which is better than you. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For someone that claims they've stopped that sure as hell doesn't look like it.

but no, hey, I get it. Its the internet, guys (like you) like to talk shit so they feel better about their lives so once again, I feel sorry for you.

The first one isn't snark or an insult. It's what I genuinely feel coming from you. You've been calling me terrible for a very long time now for really no reason. Like what did I do to you? It's not just me you've been showing no respect to either. Other then one post you made about how your play hasn't been the greatest, you come across as really arrogant and above us in a lot of them.

For the second one, you just called me an idiot with totally stupid logic. I'm just pointing out I've been on more scum wagons than you. (I also wasn't on that awful Titus lynch.) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But you're right, this is the internet, and every game I learn you need thick skin. I've been insulted in almost every game I've been in on this site so far, and it really has given me thicker skin which I'm actually kind of grateful for.

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Yea, I don't. I figured it's normal for him to act like this.
Let's just pretend none of this happened for now Nero and try to enjoy the game. This last part has largely been out of game and the rest of the players probably aren't appreciating this. If you feel like I've done you wrong anywhere that I haven't already apologized for, please pm me about it at the end of the game.

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Action Dan is far from being someone I trust 100% I assumed you actually had a reason for town reading him that was solid or else you wouldn't have claimed mason. I didn't realize you'd do such an objectively bad play like that.

You actually got me to chuckle out loud with your last part of that post. That is just gold. Thanks for giving me a laugh.
(Please be sure to re-read that later on.)

Wait. Is a man reading this correct? This one is using something on N1 to link his fait to one he isn't necessarily town reading. That blood tie makes it so that this one (supposedly town) would die if that one (which the supposed town is unsure of to be town) if that one dies. Yet, if this one dies, that one remains unharmed? And is a man also correct in reading this one is blaming his actions on

Nero's

bad play. If so, a man is finally understanding the scum thoughts of others for this one a man skimmed on his breaks last night. A man would be grateful if someone could provide correction where a man may have erred in his reading or confirmation if a man reads true as he'll have about 15 minutes to read when he wakes to go back to work.

Short on time right now.
He was a claimed mason (Thanks to Nero). He's basically un-nightkillable now too.
Last I want to talk about it because I'm getting sick of people going "omg so scummy he bonded with AD night 1" when that literally makes no sense. Read through my iso you'll find some breadcrumbs. I really don't give enough of a crap or have enough time to get them right now though.

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Dan is correctish. Since I get this nagging feeling that none of my posts are being read, I'll try one more time and be as clear as possible.
Level 1: I pick a player to form a blood bond with. If they ever die, I die. (Entirely negative utility at this point. I banked on Dan being protected until my level up though.)
Level 2: I take over Dan's spot. All actions towards him goes to me. (I asked the mod and even things like weapon finesse would go to me.) He can't even be role-blocked.
Level 3: I can change my blood blond and who I swap with every night.

If you haven't really read anything I posted yet today, the only other thing I care about is you read 3752 and tell me what you think.

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so if fulminator dies, so does action dan? And your vote is on him still Nero?

I very much dislike Flum, so if ZZZX isn't around and since Cephir isn't here. I'm going to kill you.

no, I think he's terrible and he's getting on my nerves so he gets death.

He hates me because I kept grilling him about the mason claim I think. I eventually started being a little snarky back and he responded saying "he fucking hates me." I don't think he'll be removing his vote anytime soon.

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ActionDan isn't exactly the player I would choose to blood bond with, I'm suspicious.

The only other two people I considered were Tammy and Dragons, and I'm glad I didn't end up picking them.

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He wasn't a lurker back in day 1, but I knew he'd be the most likely target for protection, thus making it less likely scum would bother target him.

(Hey MattP. Remember

So mafia probably tried to kill Action Dan night 1? That would be a poor choice when he's the most likely to be protected.

It wasn't posturing, it was bragging that I knew he'd be protected.

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I thought you were much too likely to get nightkilled Nero. I never considered bonding with you.

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Who would you pick Monkey man?

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Dear Ankamius. Please forgive me for giving you such a hard time for wanting to do a policy lynch.

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Who would you pick Monkey man?

Please answer this question Monkey.

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I thought you were much too likely to get nightkilled Nero

Isn't that your job as a town bodyguard?

Did you read my post where I explain what I am?

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That doesn't mean he's lying that he tried.

This.

Flum did you get a pm that said you were bonded?

Ad, did you get a pm that said you were bonded?

No, but Night 1 I have to be bonded with someone. There is no chance I'm not bonded with Action Dan.

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Nero, Dragons, Me.

Dragons is fair, and he was an option. Fortunately I didn't pick him because I'd be dead with him at this point.
I thought Nero would probably be the nightkill.
You never even crossed my mind. Sorry.

[Fluminator]

I have to be in a bond. It's not a night action in the sense I could be roleblocked.

[Fluminator]

The role pm says it's compulsive whatever that means.

[Fluminator]

Also, there is no point in lying about my role as either town or mafia.

[Fluminator]

Considering I have to be in a bond, and I picked Action Dan. And the mod never told me anything otherwise. I can pm the mod to confirm I suppose.

[Fluminator]

Well that was fast. He confirmed I was successful in bonding with Dan.
He said he couldn't answer whether something could have potentially stopped me from forming a bond.

[Fluminator]

I have a tinfoil feeling that Monkey is targeting me all of a sudden because of my case against Vezok.
Andrius, what did you think of my case against Vezok?

[Fluminator]

I made a big deal? The only thing I remember making a big deal of is being suspected for picking Action Dan in the first place.
Also, you say you don't get my logic? Why the heck would I bond with someone I expect to eat bullets if I'll just die with them. Two town deaths at night does not benefit town at all. If Action Dan is town, then my class actually couldn't have worked out much better.

[Fluminator]

Flum, do you want the hammer so you can switch?

Nah, I'm good. Thanks for the offer though.

[Fluminator]

Wouldn't it be better to do it tomorrow?
Just Neuter out of (me, Ankamius, MM).

[Fluminator]

And Nero wonders why he doesn't get much respect.

[Fluminator]

Why did you just play along with the mason claim Action Dan?

[Fluminator]

I don't want Nero getting hammer. I'd rather Matt has it.

[Fluminator]

I'd still rather we vote Vezok, but I guess it shouldn't make too much of a difference in the long run.

[Fluminator]

And Nero wonders why he doesn't get much respect.

I am respected by anyone that matters.

I feel sorry for someone who has as little self awareness as you. After calling me awful for so long and I finally respond by taking a couple shots at you, you cry and whine about it saying I'm awful for insulting you. At the same time you try to insult me at every chance you can get. Everyone sees through your victim act, which is a bully's favorite tool.

I really really really hope you are scum so there's game motive behind this. If you are town, please reconsider your attitude.

[Fluminator]

And no, Nero is not hammering.

[Fluminator]

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

[Fluminator]

Well, at least I can say that I tried to be mature to you Nero while you were throwing a barrage of insults at me. I'm pretty proud of myself tbh, because a couple years ago, I wouldn't have succeeded in staying civil confronting a bully like you.
/this is where I end it. Sorry to everyone who doesn't like drama in their games.

[Fluminator]

I didn't believe the mason claim when I made that list. I was holding onto some hope there was a good reason for his claim though. (Not that it affected my reads.)

[Fluminator]

Then why did you want the hammer? You almost seem like you have knowledge the game won't end for a bit.

[Fluminator]

That was to Nero.

[Fluminator]

Is this the end?

[Fluminator]

Not bad.

[Fluminator]

Didn't you already claim day 1?

[Fluminator]

I can't say I'm understanding you right now Nero.

[Fluminator]

I keep checking back to see if it's revealed lol. I just want to know.

[Fluminator]

Hey! I'm the summoner.

[Fluminator]

So a hooker?

[Fluminator]

I just realized I'm finally equal to the number of posts Dragons made in this game. And Dragons has been dead for 3 days.

[Fluminator]

LOL

[Fluminator]

I guess Jaqen changed votes.

[Fluminator]

Meh, it's a scum claim if they do it.

[Fluminator]

Yea. Waste of experience if Vezok isn't scum. I guess I'll just be patient a bit longer.

[Fluminator]

Matt's doing it.

[Fluminator]

Just in case there are 5 scum and Vezok self hammers.
UNVOTE:

[Fluminator]

Lets try again?

[Fluminator]

VOTE: Vezok
Action Dan go!

[Fluminator]

That'll be awkward if he left.

[Fluminator]

I've been refreshing for the last 10 minutes hoping for a flip lol.

[Fluminator]

And it should be.

[Fluminator]

Was this an acid trip?
What did Fidel say about aliens? Like alien aliens?

[Fluminator]

Bah.
I wonder if you should still use your thing on Action Dan tonight Matt. Just in the off chance scum can neutralize my bond somehow. I can't be roleblocked or anything, but seeing there exists a role that can neutralize powers makes me worry a little.

[Fluminator]

Town
8. Narninian
13. Andrius
4. MattP
2. Jaqen Hghar
10. Ankamius

Null-Town
3. ActionDan

More likely Scum
17. Nero Cain
6. MonkeyMan576
11. ZZZX


Assuming Vezok isn't trolling, this is where I am at right. See you guys tomorrow. (or will I?) I think we should all take a long break from looking at this game during the night so we can have a really fresh perspective tomorrow.

[Fluminator]

Hi, sorry I'm late.

[Fluminator]

I don't get any feats. I already full claimed. I swapped with AD last night.

[Fluminator]

Vote: Fluminator

Given the town's generally sucessfull voting history, it's obvious that Flum is lying about his blood bond claim. If he was town he'd be dead and so would ActionDan.

What. There was no way AD would be killed last night.
Because town is successful so far at lynching scum, I'm lying about my class? Huh?

[Fluminator]

Killing me doesn't kill Action Dan. Do you read my posts?

[Fluminator]

I'm pretty sure Nero doesn't read anything I say either.

Litereally two posts after you say that, I said

I'm under suspicion? After 3 scum lynches? Seriously?
No, if I die, AD doesn't.
If AD dies, I do.

[Fluminator]

Fluminator, MattP, and Narninian were all in a tent playing cards. It was a night after a long day of fighting, but the captain Andrius led the troops to take a fair amount of ground from the unholy warriors.
"What a guy!" Matt muttered as he rested his feet on the table. Narninian who was a very intense monk just stared at his cards and nodded.
Suddenly, a clash was heard outside the tent with some grunts and yelling. "What was that?" Fluminator wondered.
Very slowly the door opened and Andrius came through covered in blood with a very solemn expression.
All three gasped a dramatic gasp.
Andrius already looked dead in the eyes but he stayed standing. "Two of my friends. Varsoon and D3X. People I grew up with."
Matt and Flum quickly rushed to help support their captain. Andrius kept talking, "They were traitors. They were just spies. They tried to kill me."
Looking at his knives and the metal being stained red, it was clear what they had pushed through.
"Did you get them? Where are they?" Narn shouted from the table.
Andrius raised his knife, "They are spies no more." With that he collapsed in Matt's and Flum's arms and his soul passed on.
"What a guy!" Matt muttered as he rested Andrius against the table. "Killing two of the spies. We shall remember this and win this war for you."
Suddenly, Andrius came back to earth for one last moment, "By the way, I killed our inquisitor for slacking off. I DON'T TOLERATE LAZINESS." Andrius slumped back down in his chair. His soul passing on again.

[Fluminator]

Okay, so I just got the order messed up, AD should have died and not you. It still doesn't look good for you telling the truth.

Action Dan couldn't have died. Are you reading my posts?

[Fluminator]

Are you purposely dumbtelling? We had a long talk about my role yesterday and you were apparently convinced I was lying, so I'm assuming you read what my role was before calling me a liar.

[Fluminator]

Dan is correctish. Since I get this nagging feeling that none of my posts are being read, I'll try one more time and be as clear as possible.
Level 1: I pick a player to form a blood bond with. If they ever die, I die. (Entirely negative utility at this point. I banked on Dan being protected until my level up though.)
Level 2: I take over Dan's spot. All actions towards him goes to me. (I asked the mod and even things like weapon finesse would go to me.) He can't even be role-blocked.
Level 3: I can change my blood blond and who I swap with every night.

If you haven't really read anything I posted yet today, the only other thing I care about is you read 3752 and tell me what you think.

How is this confusing. How could I have made it any clearer.
I'd probably be voting for you right now if I wasn't waiting for AD.

[Fluminator]

I'd be fine with hammer. I could change who I protect then if need be.

[Fluminator]

If he's the last scum, I'm a little disappointed. Lol

[Fluminator]

Seriously AD? Why do you want me to stay on you? Your got your role in.
If Jaqen isn't scum, I am almost positive it's between Nero, AD, or MM.

[Fluminator]

I was going to but I can't now because you gave away the hammer.

[Fluminator]

You understood my role too AD. Don't pretend you don't. What the heck is with so many people dumbtelling. Did you force me to stay on you to make it more likely you'll survive the lynch tomorrow if Jaqen flips town?

[Fluminator]

Quickly, did you visit Andrius last night Jaqen?

[Fluminator]

I do feel bad. I didn't expect Nero and Dan to quickhammer while I was gone.

[Fluminator]

It would be much appreciated if someone removed my bond tonight.

[Fluminator]

Wait, so you did jailkeep Andrius? Or are you saying you were redirected and you tried to jail keep Matt?

[Fluminator]

Matt's one of the only ones who is acting town. That would stink if he's scum.
Jaqen is being very confusing right now though. He might just be trolling us.

[Fluminator]

So just to clarify.
Matt and Narn both used their action the day before combat phase and thus their actions happened first. Right?

[Fluminator]

Jaqen are you trolling us? Are you scum?

[Fluminator]

Lol.

[Fluminator]

The mafia have been bussing each other to oblivion the whole game then.

[Fluminator]

If the game's done, I'm kind of disappointed neither MM or Nero were scum.
Oh well, it was a fun game and a really cool set-up. Thanks for modding it T-Bone.

[Fluminator]

At least I'm not a bully who gets off on insulting people online.

[Fluminator]

Also the fact that Jaqen claimed scum.

[Fluminator]

They're in the private topic section.

[Fluminator]

Impressive bus between Jaqen and Varsoon. It probably would have saved Jaqen longer if they didn't get unlucky with how mine and AD's role panned out.