MUNSCM - Abandoned

[Vraak X]

I have great suspicion as to the motives of the delegate from China and his attempt to prevent the motion that, as the delegate from Germany has pointed out, would be beneficial to any members that are NOT against the axis of evil.

Aside from this point, the United States hereby

VOTES: To Reopen the Debate

with some questions.

I have been unable to fully go through the papers my colleague has left for me, but to what majority, if the proposed motion passes, will a permenant member of the Security Council be detained as a member of the Axis of Evil?

[Vraak X]

My apologies..

Point of Information to the Chair:

If the proposed motion passes, what majority of the Security Council, will determine who is a suspected member of the Axis of Evil to restrain their powers? If the Security Council will not determine this suspected country, then who, exactly, will?

[Vraak X]

My apologies ONCE AGAIN (I REALLY need to use that Preview button)

I retract all previous informal and formal points of order to the Chair and others, and hereby establish this Point of Information to the Speaker:

Point of Information to the Speaker:

If the proposed motion passes, what majority of the Security Council, will determine who is a suspected member of the Axis of Evil to restrain their powers? If the Security Council will not determine this suspected country, then who, exactly, will?

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Chair:

If a motion is presented that will require a certain length of time (such as a motion to Caucus or a motion to Censure), who will decide the length of action (how long it will last?)

Point of Information to the Chair:

Can a motion (not specifically the ones listed above) be presented in between Resolutions?

Point of Information to the Chair:

Is there a way the United States can have its delegate placard changed in the U.N. Lobby? The Honorable Madam Talitha has departed back to the United States...

[Vraak X]

VOTE:

Against the Motion

[Vraak X]

The United States hereby also requests to be added to the Speaker's list, if it is appropriate at this time. If not, the United States requests that the chair add the United States to the speaker's list at its earliest convenience.

[Vraak X]

The United States would like to clarify, the speaker's list for the RESOLUTION, not the MOTION.

[Vraak X]

Thank you, Mr. Chairman,

MUNSCM 009 should be passed in its entirety. I reiterate the concerns of the French delegate as to the issues with the Chinese ambassador.

We must pass MUNSCM 009. Why? It is for the sake of rooting out the Axis of Evil and allowing the free nations to win. The United States feels that those who are willing to block the passage of MUNSCM 009 should be investigated as possible suspects in the Axis of Evil and thus, wish to retain their rights of veto.

How long are we to fall prey to the misconduct initiated by countries in the Axis of Evil? How dare we have terrorism hold our beloved council hostage, because their vote will mean veto. One vote can overturn eleven, including others who can veto as well. If the council be in full agreement, aside from that one, the nation should be held accountable and receive the consequences for being a member of the Axis of Evil. How long will rogue nations hold the Security Council hostage? Members of the Security Council, it is now time to take action. We MUST pass MUNSCM 009; the fate of the civilized world rests in your hands.

The United States also would like to disagree with the idea of a 'no lynch' strategy. We feel that there is ample evidence already to indicate a member of the Axis of Evil, and therefore, if the possibility arises that a member could be removed, then we should take that chance. Not to do so, would be the ultimate grievance. Do be reminded that regardless of your decision here, people will die. Will it be your citizens? Or will it be those who wish to participate in a spur of terror? If you can stop a crime before it happens, then you should do so. One of the worst feelings in the world is the inability to stop a crime from happening even though it is occurring before your very eyes. With this abuse of veto power, we are sitting in front of the crimes of terrorism that are taking place, but we are unable to do anything about it. Change this.

It is rather sad and grief-causing to see that justice is being denied because of a misuse of the power of veto. End that injustice.

The United States now stands open for points of information.

[Vraak X]

Delegate from Brazil, the United States notes your concerns as to the possibility that measures to pass resolutions that will facilitate our ability to root out the axis of evil,

[Vraak X]

Please pardon the interruption.

Delegate from Brazil, the United States notes your concerns as to the possibility that measures to pass resolutions that will facilitate our ability to root out the axis of evil, and therefore officially recommends the following:

If the majority of the Security Council (perhaps a 14/1 decision) believes that a resolution is for the greater benefit of the Security Council, then no country should be able to stop the progress of international democracy in this organization; veto power or not. Therefore, if an explicit majority of the Security Council believes that a resolution would benefit for the search and destruction of the Axis of Evil, then veto powers should not stop. A veto-nation should not be able to stop just because it is their nation that is at risk.

Therefore, I hereby call for the motion to censure for any nation who would oppose MUNSCM 009 and other beneficial resolutions. If a delegate wishes to be unruly and stop the motion of democracy, then they should not be a participant at all. If a country wishes to support the Axis of Evil, they should be censured and their powers of veto, removed (if any).

For resolutions that are of importance, if only one nation supports the deeds of the axis of evil, then their powers of veto should be temporarily suspended.

Delegate from China, the veto power was established by the Security Council to protect the policies of the original founders of the United Nations and the Security Council. In a standard international democracy such as the United Nations, the veto power should not be abused. The sole purpose of the veto power is to prevent its abuse. It should not be abused as where a country's method of defending itself is abusing its veto powers. Any nation who is willing to abuse veto powers for the sake of saving their own country from a nuclear strike even though ample evidence states that there are weapons of mass destruction within that country, should have their veto powers stripped summarily. We are not recommending complete veto distribution. We are only saying that in matters of nuclear launches, if there is evidence from the majority stating that the country is guilty of holding weapons of mass destruction, then they should not hold the power to veto. Because our enemy is unknown, we must invoke it throughout the Security Council.

Delegate from Angola, if rhetoric alone cannot persuade China to vote on this resolution, then this Council must take firm action. A temporary suspension of veto powers or a censure would be in order.

[Vraak X]

Delegate from the United Kingdom, if a nation is too stubborn to allow for the passage of MUNSCM, then I recommend, if it is going against a clear majority of the Security Council, that that nation be censured.

[Vraak X]

Delegate from the United Kingdom, no. Elimination of veto powers, as MUNSCM 009 originally has stated, in voting to whether or nor to launch a nuclear strike.

[Vraak X]

Since there are no further inquiries, I will now step down and make way for the next speaker.

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

Are you suggesting that we eliminate the veto ability completely or agree to the resolution's original plan: to eliminate veto powers in case of nuclear bombings?

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Chairman:

Mr. Chairman, what would happen if a speaking nation is censured?

[Vraak X]

Mr. Chairman, in regards to your response to the point of information previously made, the United States wishes not to prevent the Chinese government from voting, but rather would like to give the Chinese delegate some time to reconsider his actions.

Vote: AGAINST the MOTION

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Chair:

Is the Security Council authorized for the formation of TWO separate investigative authorities?

[Vraak X]

China has gone too far with its questionable tactics. Therefore, the United States demands that the Chinese delegate returns to the Speaker's List, and until the Chinese delegate returns to the Speaker's List, the United States proposes the following motion:

The United States hereby

motions

for the censure of the Chinese delegate for the duration of MUNSCM 009 and MUNSCM 010. If the Chinese delegate decides to return to the Speaker's List, the United States will automatically withdraw this motion.

I urge all of you to join me in an effort to convince China to explain its actions.

[Vraak X]

The United States demands that China returns to the Speaker's list, and will not withdraw the motion unless China does so. China must have something to hide if the Chinese delegate wishes not to go up to the podium and answer some of our most curious of questions.

And China has been adamantly opposed to the violation of Chinese veto powers. We would like time to ask some questions, whereas China refuses to go up to the podium. Therefore, if China wishes not to speak, then China will not speak -- for the duration of MUNSCM 009 OR 010. Perhaps this will have China be respondent to the requests of this Council.

[Vraak X]

I will speak against.

The United States feels that this matter can be discussed in an upcoming resolution. The whole purpose of this resolution is to discuss, in my opinion, the veto powers during nuclear strikes, which they are preemptively, if the resolution passes (which I hope it does), dissolved.

Because of the severity of the nature of removing the veto powers from countries, I believe we must go into deeper discussion, rather than tacking this on to MUNSCM 009. One step at a time, so the maxim goes.


The United States hereby vetoes this amendment.

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Chair:

Mr. Chairman, is it authorized for me to go back and change some things on the proposition of MUNSCM 010?

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

What evidence can China offer us in concern that China is not at risk of being a potential member of the Axis of Evil?

[Vraak X]

Amendment to the POI:

Please change evidence to reassurance.

[Vraak X]

The United States votes

in favor.

[Vraak X]

Vote:

In Favor

[Vraak X]

Thank you Mr. Chairman

MUNSCM 010 reads as follows:

NOTING, that nation of the axis of evil and that are permenant members of the UN Security Council are in a position to suspend any measure to try and remove them;

ACKNOWLEDGING, that recent actions by certain permenant member countries have lit "red-flags" in the eyes of the Security Council;

1. REAFFIRMS that in resolutions concerning Weapons Inspector deployment into a target country, if the target country is a permenant member of the Security Council, then their power of veto will be rendered useless/ineffective.

2. REQUIRES that when a clear majority has been reached in votes (all but one country has voted for the resolution), the matter may not be vetoed.

Submitted by the United States of America.

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

If in the scenario that a country receives innocent information about another country that is being targetted for a nuclear strike sanctioned by the United Nations, does the delegate from the Phillipines not realize that if another country realizes this innocence, then the second clause is automatically negated, because it renders the power of veto effective when two or more countries are dissenting? Does the delegate from the Phillipines realize that the clause prevents use of veto power when a clear majority (all but one of the countries with veto powers) has been reached on a resolution, and because MUNSCM 009 prevents use of veto powers on any nuclear strike, this passage does not apply to nuclear strikes? Also, has the delegate from the Phillipines read the passage in its entirety, in regards to the passage where the veto prevention in the first paragraph REAFFIRMS, not REQUIRES?

[Vraak X]

Mr. Chairman, the United States hereby motions for a roll-call to determine the activity of the delegates. Some of them seem to be rather.. motionless..

[Vraak X]

I do believe that two motions cannot be in order at the same time.

[Vraak X]

I do believe that such a motion can be attended to, Delegate from Spain.

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Chair:

In support of my motion, I would like to turn the Security Council to Article VI of Robert's Rules of Order, Section 41, under the title "Call of the House," in which the assembly is called upon and convinced to attend the session. My point of information the Chair is, is this considered legal justification for a motion to take attendance? Any absentees, assuredly, must immediately return to Council chambers.

I point you to the specific reference in the Call of the House section:

Rule. When no quorum is present, if one-fifth of the members elect are present, they may by a majority vote order a call of the house and compel the attendance of absent members. After the call is ordered, a motion to adjourn, or to dispense with further proceedings in the call, cannot be entertained until a quorum is present, or until the sergeant-at-arms2 reports that in his opinion no quorum can be obtained on that day.

If no quorum is present, a call of the house takes precedence of everything, even reading the minutes, except the motion to adjourn, and only requires in its favor the number specified in the rule. If a quorum is present a call should rank with questions of privilege [19], requiring a majority vote for its adoption, and if rejected it should not be renewed while a quorum is present at that meeting. After a call is ordered, until further proceedings in the call are dispensed with, no motion is in order except to adjourn and a motion relating to the call, so that a recess could not be taken by unanimous consent. An adjournment puts an end to all proceedings in the call, except that the assembly before adjournment, if a quorum is present, can order such members as are already arrested to make their excuse at an adjourned meeting.

[Vraak X]

The United States has sufficient reason to believe that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.

Make no mistake, we will find the terrorists in Iraq.

[Vraak X]

The United States would also like to note that we have a) found the weapons of mass destruction, and b) found all the hanging chads from the 2000 election. Hey, Al Gore did really win!

[Vraak X]

Mr. Chairman, I believe a motion to close debate already is in place, despite its condition of being out of order behind the motion to roll call. I believe this motion was proposed by the delegate from Spain.

[Vraak X]

Vote: In Favor

[Vraak X]

The United States obviously votes

in favor

of the resolution.

[Vraak X]

Mr. Chairman, the United States would like to withdraw the next proposal.

[Vraak X]

The United States

SUPPORTS

and

VOTES FOR

the motion to caucus.

[Vraak X]

Pray, do tell why we should launch a nuclear strike against the Phillipines?

[Vraak X]

And since all formal procedures have been dropped.. Mr. Chairman (Hey yo wassup! ).. is there any way we could increase the accuracy of the MABM better the efficiency of it? Are any upgrades available to it?

[Vraak X]

So we can't make a resolution to upgrade the MABM? Not even a temporary homing device?

[Vraak X]

Alas, one flaw in Germany's mention of my "incessant badgering" of the delegate from China.

The United States acted on a good-faith basis to attempt to pursue all avenues of the Axis of Evil. In fact, if you have noticed, I withdrew the proposition for MUNSCM 012, because I no longer chose to route any further attention to China as a potential member of the axis of evil.

The sole purpose of the intensity of questioning to the delegate from China was simply to question the possibility of China being the veto-member of the Axis of Evil. Was/Is China still a member of the axis of evil? Possibly. All of us are. Beyond a reasonable doubt? Hardly so, and definitely not to enough to endorse a nuclear strike.

The United States, at first, interpreted China's actions to be questionable, at best. We did not know China's motives for protecting veto powers, which indeed, it seemed like. A small exchange of veto liberties seemed appropriate for proper security. However, after further clarification, we were able to correctly determine misinterpretation threw the United States on the wrong track.

The entire purpose this procedural process is to ensure that we do not make the wrong choice in a strike. I do not agree with the other nations rush to attempt to strike the United States nor any other nations. Although we are in caucus, let the delegates be reminded that we are here to civilly determine, no matter how long this day has gone, the correct nation to determine as the Axis of Evil. Destroy one wrong nation, and you reduce the Security Council to 13 (14, praying that the MABM is correct).

The United States maintains the fact that we are not a member of the so-called Axis of Evil. Although I cannot speak for the other nations, I implore of the delegates to carefully consider all choices, regardless of what nation it is. We have bountiful amounts of time -- the Axis of Evil cannot strike until we adjourn. Let us be cautious, and err on the side of caution.

[Vraak X]

It seems as if that the other delegates have fallen asleep at the helm.

Mr. Chairman, I request that a 48 hour extension to the Caucus be allowed.

[Vraak X]

Delegate from Romania, please explain your unwillingness to extend the caucus?

[Vraak X]

The United States, like the previous delegate from our esteemed nation, is angry and confused at this whole debacle.

Let me quote for you the MUNSCM resolution in which the nuclear strike of Romania was discussed:

Current Resolution

MUNSCM 007: The Romania Referendum

Noting that Romania is trying to protect veto-powered countries;

Also noting that Romania is continuously attempting to cover over the possibility of a veto-powered Axis member;

Also noting Romania's attempts to pass its actions off as actions of the Phillipines;

1. Requires that a nuclear missile attack be directed at Romania

2. Strongly suggests that any nation that vetos this attack be made the target of a nuclear strike to replace the strike intended against Romania.

Now, let me remind all of you delegates on parliamentary procedure. You moved to

shelve

the issue. That means, it must come back. Eventually. If there was not one inkling of reasonable doubt within your minds as to the guilt of Romania, then please do pray tell me, why did you vote to shelve it? Is it not perchance the delegates had a small amount of reasonable doubt emanating from the delegate from Romania, and thus, they voted to pursue the issue later?

If your answer is no, then why hasn't this Council reactivated this MUNSCM proposal and strike it down immediately? Because reasonable doubt still exists.

Delegate from Romania, you are merely exacerbating the conditions for your nation. I have yet to review the millions of pages left behind by the previous delegate's office, but I do know one thing: if you are a member of the Axis of Evil, the Security Council will

NOT

sanction you breathing a sigh of relief.

The proposal still exists because the Security Council has a good-faith belief that some doubt exists as to the innocence of Romania. We have seen this "guiltless hands" ploy performed before in the history of oratory and politics, why should this be any different? No country will ever claim that they are an evil force.

Delegates from Romania and the Phillippines, the United States hereby officially would like to note concern for both nations. Especially to the delegate from Romania, if your hostilities cannot be contained within the confines of this Council, then the Council cannot function properly with Romania running on the basis of hostile emotions.

All diplomats, do remember, that you are diplomats within the United Nations Security Council. Your purpose here is to civilly, and logically determine the members of the Axis of Evil. Determining such members does not require outbursts of rage; such is the manner in which we carry ourselves as Ambassadors of our nations. If you are not civilly apt to perform your duties as an ambassador of your nation, then perhaps you should step down and allow for someone else to take your place.

And I say this to the Axis of Evil:

Despite the duration and length of this arduous day, we will not falter, we will not fail in pursuit of finding and destroying your vile cause. Hold your liberty and your freedoms dear, for if you continue to threaten liberty and the pursuit of justice, it will be your nation, not ours of the free world, that will fall to the fate of disaster.

Delegates,

We come before here, as delegates of our nation, because it is our duty to seek the removal of the Axis of Evil with due security. But before us stands a challenge, a fear, that our nation may be the one that is struck down within these halls, and we will find ourselves awake to hear that our families have been blasted away by a nuclear blast.

Yet it is here, in this very room, that lies the sole malefactors that would be the root cause for our impending destruction, the impending destruction that is the Freedom of Mankind. We must not falter, we must not fail.

I do not come here to lament, for in the Security Council, I hold the hope that our nation will not be blasted away off the face of the Earth, in the pursuit to seek the complete annihilation of the free nations of this Earth.

These doors that hold us within these walls are locked, no one shall leave until parliamentary procedure calls for. Let us not be hasty as to call for a strike of a nation until we are ensured that all steps, all measures have been taken in order for the Security Council to perform its best.

Think about it. Millions of lives will be suddenly ended by an unpredictable evil. It will be one hundred times worse than what has happened on September 11th. The images of airplanes flying into buildings will pale in comparison to the destruction that will occur in our nations through the course of the night, should those delegates who are responsible for this heinous composition of the Axis of Evil be released.

But they will fail, for the integrity of this Council will sustain itself.

With nightfall, the MABM and the Weapons Inspectors will perform their duties, as well, in their supplementary form to find and faciliate in the removal of the Axis of Evil. But it will be the sole will and determination of this Security Council, to ensure that such an act can be done.

We will meet the call of destruction via terrorism with justice, and we will see that justice is done. Let us take the proper course of action. As long as we are bound by these walls, no nation will have to face the horror of destruction.

[Vraak X]

The United States hereby votes

in favor.

[Vraak X]

The United States would like to be on the Speaker's List, Mr. Chairman, but we would like some time to prepare.

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Chairman:

Mr. Chairman, the United States will defer placement on the Speaker's List until all points of information directed towards the speaker has been answered.

[Vraak X]

Thank you, Delegate of the Phillippines.

The United States stands firm to the charge that we should carefully investigate any possible target for nuclear strike.

In spite of this, the United States also does agree with the delegate from the Phillippines in the matter that the delegate from Romania is incredibly hostile, regardless of hostility in matters outside of this Council, as with previous actions.

The United States does not stand for a careless execution of a nation and its citizens, but we demand that Romania explain its odd actions before the Security Council. If Romania cannot answer truthfully and precisely to the requests of the Security Council, then it indeed should be a possible target for consideration as far as a nuclear strike goes. Hostility will only exacerbate the situation.

We have spent a long, strenuous day in convention and discussion of where we shall strike in mutual agreement. Nevertheless, the United States all delegates to press forth in the pursuit of justice, unless we wish for the Axis of Evil to be victorious.

The preservation of freedom will be achieved.

I am now open to Points of Information

[Vraak X]

POI:

Delegate from the United States... you have stated your desire to avoid a 'careless execution' and also have asked for the Romanian delegate to explain his actions. I put it to you that after several months of discussion, over 900 comments from various delegates, countless agruments, proposed, shelved, and tabled resolutions, periods of Caucus with heated discussion and now yet another resoltuion, that the delegate from Romania has had ample time to explain or refuse to explain his actions, that his defenders have had ample time to back him up, and that his rivals have had ample time to lay out the evidence.

Do you not feel that the time for asking for further clarifications are over, and the time to make your mind up and take a side is at hand?

~Delegate from Chile.

The United States believes that in this time, Romania has had ample time to respond to its past actions, but has failed to respond to actions that have occured in recent hours.

The time for clarifications is over, however, we must proceed with caution. Anyone who wishes to accelerate the process of justice is cause for suspicion, such that the Axis of Evil cannot strike unless we leave these Council walls.

[Vraak X]

POI to the speaker:

I'm somewhat confused. What specifically do you wish to happen in the immediate future regarding the delegate from Romania.

If Romania cannot answer to the demands of the Security Council, and if Romania cannot subdue its hostile nature, then Romania must be explored as a possible hostile threat.

[Vraak X]

POI to the speaker:

You are being vague once again and skirting the edges of this question. Answer my question directly and simply. Do you or do you not wish for this resolution to be passed?

At this point and time, if the country of Romania cannot redeem itself during the course of its term in the Speaker's seat, then the United States will sanction a nuclear strike.

[Vraak X]

POI to the speaker:

You are being vague once again and skirting the edges of this question. Answer my question directly and simply. Do you or do you not wish for this resolution to be passed?

At this point and time, if the country of Romania cannot redeem itself during the course of its term in the Speaker's seat, then the United States will sanction a nuclear strike.

POI to the speaker: What must the delgate from romania do in order to clear itself in your obviously evil mind?

Let me make it clear to the delegate from Romania. Your blatant acts of hostility against the United States and of the other delegates will not go unnoticed. If you do not cease this hostile action, and go off ranting, calling all of our noble countries evil, then you will find no ally here in the walls of the Security Council.

If Romania insists on creating a wall between it and the countries of this esteemed Council, then so be it -- it is sealing its own fate. As the United States has clearly stated before, we do not seek the hostilities of another nation, but rather we would like to seek justice.

Romania's overly defensive stance to the point where any sign of aggression against it, is drawing attention that is further agitating the delegate from Romania.

Mr. ZONEACE, this Council does not succumb to your wishes, not because of your words of hostility do we function, but we allow logic to prevail. If Romania seeks to attack and engage in all the delegates of this noble Council in this fashion, then so be it: Romania will mark its own doom.

Do remember, Delegate from Romania, that the United States is one of the veto-nations. But in this case, with your overt attempts to make the United States as a member of the Axis of Evil, you will not win our veto. Continue to blame other nations for your own woes, and soon no veto will accompany your side.

If you allow emotion to be the sole basis of your claim, Delegate from Romania, then so be it. You wish for your citizens not to die, such is a noble act, but if your citizens are preparing to launch nuclear arms against the face of humankind, then you shall not survive the day.

[Vraak X]

I challenge the Spanish delegate not to twist my words around in an effort for drawing sympathy to his own cause.

I have not made it clear that the United States should be feared, for it should not be. The Security Council, or at least the innocent nations of it, should be feared.

I have repeatedly stated that if Romania can redeem itself in front of the Security Council during its duration in the Speaker's Chair, then all that is considered hostile will be considered moot.

But, if Spain wishes to push the issue, then perhaps it should be Spain, not Romania, that is investigated.

The United States does not govern by coercion, nor does it govern by fear. It governs through the idea that we can associate ourselves closely with our colleagues in the United Nations, and the esteemed delegates of the Security Council.

If Spain chooses to draw and press forth an answer from the United States, then it has received one. But as the United States has stated before, we must press forth with all due caution.

[Vraak X]

The United States would like to attach an errata:

I have not made it clear that the United States should be feared, for it should not be. The Security Council, or at least the innocent nations of it, should be feared.

Is supposed to be...

I have not made it clear that the United States should be feared, for it should not be alone. The Security Council, or at least the collective whole of the innocent nations, should be feared.

Office of the Historian, please record this for the record.

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Chair:

Because of the wording of MUNSCM 009, entitled "Oddsmaking," it is hereby rendered ineffective, is it not? I point you to point one, where it specifies "specific countries, until further notice." Neither a list of countries nor a time for a period of "further notice" has been released. The Council has not decided, Mr. Chairman, the list of these "specific countries," nor the duration of effect for MUNSCM 009. If the Chair were to determine the list of these "specific countries," such would be unfair to those delegates in the Council chambers today.

[Vraak X]

The ultimate goal of this Council is to remove and rid the Axis of Evil. When I spoke on behalf of the Council, I not only spoke as a member of the Council (see: History of the United Nations, Cause for Veto Power) but also as a member of the Council who wishes to see this Council rid of the Axis of Evil. Unless Spain is adamant in its opposition of the pursuit of the Axis of Evil, then it too should be supportive of the goals to purge the Security Council of the Axis of Evil.

Whether it be innate hatred from previous actions of this nation or the fact that I have made active attempts to remove the Axis of Evil should not be cause for admonishment in my pursuit to rid this Council. We are all unanimous in our pursuit of this Axis, and in that reasoning, I speak on behalf of this Council.

We are all equals, regardless of veto power, yes, I understand. But my attempts were not to control the Council, but rather show my reasoning for pursuit. If the delegate from Romania, as I have CLEARLY stated before, can remove the aura of hostility that exists within these Council walls, then the United States too, will retreat from hostility. But as long as that doubt exists, then we must pursue that avenue until that avenue finds itself to be a dead end, or a member of the Axis of Evil.

I am not attempting to grab power on behalf of the United States. What I am attempting, Sir Delegate from Spain, is complete removal of power for the Axis of Evil. When such doubt exists in my mind, I, for one, cannot sleep peacefully. And I do not wish to see, as I have stated before, any innocent country lie in oblivion, blasted into pieces.

We should not fear any nation, for no nation in this room has been declared guilty by the weapons inspectors. I, like all delegates here in this room, am in the interest of pursuing the truth, and the pursuit of justice. Such is what I ask of the delegate from Romania.

(OOC: I'm George W. Bush, and I approved this message!)

[Vraak X]

And what does the Spanish delegate say to the idea that perhaps hot-headedness is a sign that a member may be a member of the Axis of Evil. Perhaps not? Reasonable doubt exists in at least the minds of some delegates, at the very least mine. This reasonable doubt must be cleared, otherwise, the assumption of guilt will rise upon the Axis of Evil.

Romania cannot effectively dissolve any aggression through additional hostility. Therefore, when it engages the Speaker's podium, I am presuming that it shall so effectively answer all of our questions.

Perhaps, in the search for truth and justice, a motion may be called to speed Romania up to immediate succession after the United States steps down from this podium.

I will answer a few more Points of Information, then the United States will step down.

[Vraak X]

If the Security Council wishes to form a court in determination of innocence or guilt, then it is the decision of the Security Council. But it is the reason that this Security Council has been formed in the first place that is to determine whether or not a country is guilty or innocent.

[Vraak X]

The United States would like to make one announcement before stepping down from the Speaker's podium:

Point of Reference is Here:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=949

I urge delegates not to drag out the actions of this Security Council into other locations.

No names will be mentioned.

*yields the floor*

[Vraak X]

Mr. Chairman,

The United States would hereby like to

motion

for the retirement of the Romanian candidate due to the following words that the American people have taken to offense:

the romanian delegate believes a hearty Kiss My ass is in order as well as an apology.

Under Robert's Rules of Order, which this Council follows,

Disorderly words should be taken down by the member who objects to them...If a member cannot justify the words he used, and will not suitably apologize for using them, it is the duty of the assembly to act in this case.

I quote from

Robert's Rules of Order, Article VII, Section 43.

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

So tis by your whim alone that a nation is declared a member of the Axis of Evil? How pleasant.

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

Benin: I believe I havemade it quite clear that the USA is significantally more likely to be an Axis member.

Regarding this quote, and your claim that your actions alone do not determine what this Security Council finds as guilty or innocent, what say you on this? Do you not find yourself the lone defender of Romania, aside from the nation itself? Oh, hold on a second, the United States is

more likely

to be an Axis member, despite the lack of evidence that you purport is a lack of support for Romania.

[Vraak X]

Will be away from 19th to the 28th. Posted in Vacation thread.

[Vraak X]

Will be away from the 19th to the

26th.

Posted in Vacation thread.

[Vraak X]

Ahh. I just flew in back from the city of Sacramento so my apologies for the delayed questions:

Point of Information to the Speaker:

You found the United States to be reluctant in drawing a straightforward accusation? You ask for proof, the United States brought proof, and it is still reluctant to launch a nuclear strike on a nation without it being beyond a reasonable doubt. Seeing the French delegate and the Spanish delegate's reluctance, perhaps reasonable doubt exists, and thus a nuclear strike is unwarranted. But laying suspicion and a possible nuclear strike on a nation that only seeks for the preservation of the Security Council and the removal of the Axis of Evil, is this such a sin that warrants attention? Am I being overly defensive for the cause of good, such that in itself my country will die?

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

Thus, a nuclear strike should be launched on the United States solely for the fact that it took 3 questions to get a response which I believed was very clear in the first place?

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

You seem so adamant about striking the United States, and so has the Spanish delegate and the Romanian delegate. In fact, you three are the ONLY ones that even proffer the idea of a nuclear strike against the United States. What proof can you offer that states that you three are not in league with each other, the Axis of Evil yourself, and that you, as members of the Axis, are defending yourselves in league with each other? Are you attempting to strike down the United States for being protective of the values of this Security Council as well as protect it from enemy strikes? Or are you this foe, this enemy that we face in the midst of doubt? It seems downright ludicrous that a nation will die, does it not, solely because its delegate makes "senseless oratories?"

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

Shall you not take the quotes into context? If you examine as such:

But, if Spain wishes to push the issue, then perhaps it should be Spain, not Romania, that is investigated.

As I saw later, the Spanish delegate had no qualms about being investigated. Why, then, should you bring up the topic?

You claim that I launched a "waxing lyrical".. do tell me, did you not understand that I was attempting to refute Spain's claim that the United States was coercing the Security Council to meet its demands?

Would the delegate from France accept an amendment to change the proposal from a nuclear strike to a directed weapons inspection?

What proof can France offer, once again, that the United States is a member of the axis of Evil. Can it possibly be that I too, like Romania, is simply "incorrect and misguided?" Or is it some other impassioned reason that the United States is in pending danger?

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

You state that his continued "insistence" further supports the case of the Phillippines, and yet you direct attention away from the Romanian delegate and rather direct attention towards the United States for our long oratories. Why the sudden switch?

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

If it is such, then why not an amendment be made where the Weapons Inspectors are sent into the States, and the results are sent to the Chairman who will immediately broadcast the results the next day? Perhaps this will be enough to justify my position? Or shall we not "waste" a weapons inspection on the States and instead strike it with nuclear weapons?

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

Alleged benefit? You are so sure that the United States is a member of the Axis of Evil. Would France currently sanction a nuclear strike against the United States, or is it hesitant in this matter, as well? Is France's next motive to launch a proposal to launch a nuclear strike against the United States? What if it is found that the United States is an innocent nation, which we are; what action then will France take to compensate for such a tragedy? Shall France let bygones be bygones and let a nation lie in nuclear ruins solely because "it made a mistake?"

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

The Romania Referendum came about when Delegate Talitha was the delegate for the United States of America. Was it in the FIRST or SECOND round of the Romania Referendum that the USA joined the fight? Had the United States, hypothetically, been on the same sheet of music as the Phillippines, why not the first round? Do you feel that, quoting you:

My isistance that we should not go after veto countries early on was...

this statement still applies? Why do you advocate, then, the destruction of the United States? How do we know, once again, that you, Spain and France are not a part of a collaborative Mafia attempt? Will Romania agree to a binding decision by the Council where if it turns out that after a nuclear strike of the United States, the country is innocent, Romania, France and Spain shall subsequently be destroyed? Or do you not want to put your "neck out on the line?"

[Vraak X]

Mr. Chairman, the United States hereby motions to table the current discussion on the nuclear striking of Romania, and hereby motions to move forward with the agenda.

[Vraak X]

Mr. Chairman, the United States withdraws the motion to shelve discussion (Sorry, we use table for shelving items, my mistake.)

Mr. Chairman, the United States would like to motion for a termination of debate and immediate voting thereafter.

[Vraak X]

Even though this is out of order, delegate from Romania, you have no fear. The United States is going to veto this motion immediately. The United States has taken a few steps backwards and reconsidered striking Romania. It believes that this is not the correct decision for this time.

[Vraak X]

Ahh. Despite the flaws of the wording of the legal definitions of the resolution, I hereby concede your point, delegate.

[Vraak X]

*starts rubbing his head.. Oh brother...*

[Vraak X]

The United States, with the mischievous sudden activities that it has created, hereby

VOTES in FAVOUR

of the resolution. The United States would also like to point out that the Algerian delegate isn't really voting for anything.

[Vraak X]

Yes, I do believe that is it, Mr. Chairman.

[Vraak X]

Mr. Chairman, the United States hereby

motions

for a reconsideration of the current vote on MUNSCM 007.

In the interest of democracy, Mr. Chairman, although those opposed to the resolution is exceeding those who are in favor of it, if the Council were to be at full status, a tiebreaker could be invoked. However, because of the absence of Russia and of other delegates, we have been unable to get an adequate vote in matters of such magnitude.

In the interest of democracy, Mr. Chairman, if a resolution has the opportunity to pass but cannot do so because of the relative lack of interest within their duties here within their Security Council, then truly no attention has been paid to an incident of great magnitude?

If this motion bears no merit, Mr. Chairman, the United States hereby motions for a call of the House, as performed before, in order to maintain the relative activity of the delegates before we proceed on to the Delegate from the United Kingdom.

For a Council as small as the Security Council, is it truly in the interest of international security to have its members absent? No. This resolution has been defeated 5-7, with Russia's abstention, the highest it could have gone is a 7-7 tie. Therefore, it is pivotal that we reconsider this motion, or at least perform a call of the house to ensure that future resolutions can be considered under full breadth.

[Vraak X]

In addition, Mr. Chairman, if a Call of the House reports that a full Council cannot be obtained, then I

move

that the Security Council takes a brief recess in order for the new delegates to fly in. We simply cannot proceed on without an active and ready Council. No matter how much the tired are pushed, they can only move so far.

[Vraak X]

The United States officially has re-elected President George W. Bush as the President of the United States.

[Vraak X]

The United States objects Mr. Chairman. It is not the fault of this Council if Russian Counsel wishes not to retrieve past debates and archives on the issue. Since the resolution is defeated, and due to the Russian delegate's complaint that he was not engaged in any debate or discussion in regards to this resolution, I hereby move for the reconsideration of MUNSCM 007.

[Vraak X]

The United States withdraws the motion.

[Vraak X]

Mister Chairman, The United States motions for the opening of debate on the next item of the agenda.

[Vraak X]

Obviously, I must go on the Speaker's list, Mr. Chairman. The United States motions to be at the bottom of the speaker's list, speaking very last.

[Vraak X]

Mr. Chairman, the United States already HAS motioned to be placed at the bottom. At a matter of such grave consequence, I must say that it will only provide for me an adequate defense if I can counter all claims by other countries adequately.

[Vraak X]

The United States votes in favour.

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

Since the United Kingdom carelessly assumes the United States is a member of the Axis of Evil, what if it is found that the United States is NOT a member of the Axis of Evil? How does the United Kingdom plan to pay reparations to a nuclear-destroyed people? Will the United Kingdom be open to an amendment to the proposal that will recommend MUNSCM sanctioned nuclear strike on England if it is failed to be proven after the nuclear strike of the United States that the United States is a member of the Axis of Evil?

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

And how do these "distractions with no point" indicate that the United States is a member of the Axis of Evil? Do we send men to hell for making long oratories, Mr. PolarBoy? It is not the fault of this delegate that he speaks in this manner. The United States should not pay for the actions of one delegate, even though it is myself. Do you agree not? Would a weapons inspection first not be better warranted than striking away at a nation?

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

What proof can the United Kingdom offer that IT is not a member of the Axis of Evil? Certainly your motives assume that it is. In fact, you call for the removal of the veto powers restriction if the United States is found guilty of being a member of the Axis of Evil. Gee, I forgot. Can we truly say beyond a reasonable doubt that this veto powers restriction should be removed? Can we say assuredly that we do not have another member within the five that hold veto power? What if there is one, and only one -- YOU? You call for the destruction of the United States, and yet you offer no proof besides my pedantic actions. Why, then, shall this Council strike?

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Chairman:

Mr. Chairman, the United States motions at this time to extend the amount of votes needed to pass MUNSCM 011 to unanimous minus one. Fourteen votes, Mr. Chairman, with the exclusion of the United States. In deciding such a grave matter such as the destruction of a nation, the Security Council MUST see that it cannot be done with only a slight majority, for it could take the Axis of Evil and a few others to ride along in order to bring a nation to a nuclear wasteland.

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

Will the United Kingdom, since this is a matter of grave consequence, involving the complete annihilation of a nation, concede to the all but one unanimity vote? Certainly, this issue is large enough that we cannot allow 5 nations trailing blindly behind the Axis of Evil to be responsible for the death of a nation. Does Britain not agree? Or is 8 sufficient to blast a nation into oblivion?

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

Why does Britain not agree to an inspection first to clear the United States? Do the words of this delegate horrify you to the extent that you automatically believe I am a member of the Axis of Evil? I ask you to take a stance, Mr. Polarboy, on deciding whether or not the United States of America, protector of the free nations, merits a simple inspection? We will prove that we have no connections to the Axis of Evil, nor malicious intent to kill. I would strongly suggest you agree to this, Mr. Polarboy, or else the sights will be set on you next when the United States is found an innocent nation.

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

If the verbal assault on Romania was the cause of your suspicion on the United States, then why not pursue other nations? Is it because we speak in the diplomatic manner that we are being hunted down and chased like dogs? Surely, the United States will face opposition within the boundaries of the whole Security Council, but what will you do when the bodies of millions of Americans lie IN YOUR HANDS! Will you say, in your classy British charming way, "Oh, we're sorry. Let's carry on then, cheerio!" How dare you. You do not give us the right to be innocent until proven guilty. Well, then let justice grease its wheels and let the inspectors come on over. We have hot dogs, lemonade, apple pie waiting for them, but NO NUCLEAR MISSILES and NO TIES TO THE AXIS OF EVIL, NOR ANY INTENTIONS TO COMMIT MALICIOUS HARM.

Or, if you'd rather end it with a missile, then what sense of justice do you hold, Britain?

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

Would you care to point out why you among others refuse to grant the United States a fair and equitable opportunity to present itself first before getting harangued?

[Vraak X]

Both our Chairperson and the delegate from China, as well as a few other delegates have seem to gone MIA (missing in action).

Do we moderate ourselves then? Uh-oh.

In the meanwhile..

*goes back to flipping coins and clearing things out in the Oval Office*

[Vraak X]

Point of Information to the Speaker:

Better have ten men come up with their own brilliance than have a hundred nod to the brilliance of one?

[Vraak X]

Sends a Notecard to Britain

Mr. PolarBoy,

That was Benin who asked the question, not me.

Sincerely Yours,

The Honorable Sir Vraak

And who is up next?

[Vraak X]

The United States suggests that we suspend actions until the return of the Chair. Although we have established decorum and order ourselves, we are not really officially recognized. It is as if we are sitting in a conference room with no chairperson.