Katsuki's Madness Prequel II - Game Over

[farside22]

/confirm

[farside22]

hi all.

I feel like doing something different this game so in no order what so ever


Town:
DGB
kayne

spiffys town btw

Camn

Leaning town:
Spy
hiplop (sadly, still love you dude)
muffin

null (meh)

Spiffeh
ironavp - scum or high as a kite, he's not new and already getting defense on page 2. Lynch it.
By page 5 I think he maybe a VI. Or a kid.


Questionable:
KMD - comes across as fake

Vote: KMD

Those not mentioned go into the null/did nothing category.

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why is dgb your strongest town read?

o well if says no order but whatever

why is she one of your solid town reads

The post and PJ was something I agreed with. I was very shocked by PJ's post.
I also sensed between the back and forth with Camn that they know each other well and there was no fear from her about Camn and was more excited.
Usually when players know each other and how well they can play as town or scum there is more a bit of dread and a bit of giving off almost a defensiveness or agitation when posting that way. Scum DGB could have just held Camn as scum with PJ's post and pushed her if Camn is town.

Do you think DGB is scum?

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Spy
hiplop (sadly, still love you dude)

Whats this mean??

I think your town play is pretty sad.

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kmd are you scum?

Yes he is.

Town:
DGB
kayne
Camn
Muffin

Leaning town:
Spiffeh
hiplop (sadly, still love you dude)
Iron

null (meh)



Questionable/scummy
KMD - comes across as fake
Spy (yes this changed)

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Like i know im not spelling things out with my magic crayons but it really can't be tough to figure out who I'm talking to contextually.

Kkb is town. Farside is town. There's a lot of slog and iron is way low hanging fruit. But i did get fooled last game so

Why are you reading me as town?

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Town:
DGB
kayne
Camn
Muffin

Leaning town:
Spiffeh
hiplop (sadly, still love you dude)
Iron
Drama (that scum list so bad)

null (meh)



Questionable/scummy
KMD - comes across as fake
Spy
Fate (??)

I think your town play is pretty sad.

:\

lets judge someone and put them down even when i havent played with them in a long time!!

I'm pretty salty and have little faith in people these days.
Shrug.

if

iraon is town (and i'm currently thinking that's not so big an if), i would not be at all surprised if there's 2 scum in { hiplop, springlullaby, dram, lld }

One or both of lld/spring I think based on votes.
I'm on the fence with drama still.
It's changed since.

Empty readlists and quips don't make me feel that warm inside.

I like trying new things, glad it meets with your approval.

I'm not excited about any of this damn. Kmd just seems like that guy that has had just one too many drinks so he's a little slurred but the mouthwords are fine.

I mean im not going to not vote cause hey but i want something i can really bite into

I want a good ol fashioned hate on

Scum saving his scum buddy.
Let's say you notice someone seems a little off kilter, you are going to ignore that!
Pfft.

~Fixed quote tags.

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mod please fix quotes

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lld and spring?

@Irao: Because I'm suspicious of those three, but they might be town, it's early. You on the other hand are never town.

Lady lamb and spring both voted iron and have been MIA since.

Town:
DGB
kayne
Camn
Muffin
Iron (vi and sadly many negative things I'd normally say about this player I'm leaving unsaid)

Leaning town:
Spiffeh
hiplop (sadly, still love you dude)
Drama (that scum list so bad)

null (meh)



Questionable/scummy
KMD - comes across as fake
Spy
Fate (??)
Lld (she is way better then this as town)

im not a fan of spyrex's posting

No shit sherlock.
I'd vote him or kmd. Seriously did you see kmd awkward posting?

Fixed tags

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Sorry for the missing tag, I'm cut and pasting from my phone and I keep missing that [ part.

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Sorry for the missing tag, I'm cut and pasting from my phone and I keep missing that [ part.

Do I look MIA to you, lmfao

Before today, you were.

actuallly that read list from Farside needs bullets too

Can I borrow your gun to shot people?

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That is like saying "why would a scum-aligned player scumslip"...

no it isn't. slips are an unconscious thing, scum have to actively choose who they're going to attack and why

that's why the argument that dram just "forgot" or that dram is scum and doing something without thinking about it is dumb

Oh you

Ok, sell me. Make me buy your timeshare

Like who the fuck puts someone who made this fucking post on their scum list right now

like for real

there's nothing town about that post, even if he is town

Don't fight with scum dear, I've learned all they do is twist and squeal about.

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Town:
kayne
Camn
Muffin
Iron (vi and sadly many negative things I'd normally say about this player I'm leaving unsaid)

Leaning town:
Spiffeh
hiplop (sadly, still love you dude)
Drama (that scum list so bad)
Dbg

null (meh)



Questionable/scummy
KMD - comes across as fake
Spy
Fate (??)
Lld (she is way better then this as town, antagonists to boot)

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Ok farside you've thrown that jab enough time for a right hook. I believe in the me that believes in you

I don't believe in the you I've seen as town before.
All I see is a lot of nothing.

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I'm ok with this.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: dramonic

Fate, why?
I agree he's acting weird, but can't it wait until tomorrow?

Why is an important OK lynch a priority for you?

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I don't understand the question?

You're voting drama.
You don't want to discuss voting some else.
I want to know why.

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Oh, I do. I just don't want Fate to be all Fate-Mystic-Shaman-in-the-rabbit-hole who gets in a death tunnel...... until later. Not Day 1.

I want Fate to have REAL anger and call the blood gods... Not the fake it till you make it, fate being a parody of fate kind.

Does that even make sense?

Fair enough.

Et tu, fate

I wait and wait and wait. Staring longingly at our photographs. First dances. Little tea parties. Anniversaries.

And this is what i get. Absence clearly doesn't make the heart grow fonder.

They wouldn't have deserved it but you're gonna actually make me effort post aren't you.

Spy NONE of your posting has been in line with you enjoying this game and it being our reunion tea party

NONE

AND that bulls hit alpacatrio pants awkward tee hee times?

I'm having none of it

Hopefully I won't have to watch you die while I'm down the rabbit hole as camn puts it

Everyone's agreed SPYREX is scum posting so let's see the wagon no

I'M LOOKIN AT YOU MUFFINS AND KANYE AND FARSIDE

OK

Vote: spyrex

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No, I don't want kanyeknowsbest to die!

We don't even know that

Let's play devil's advocate for a moment.
Let's say she is telling the truth about this mystery of voting.
Worst case and best case thoughts.
Do you think kayne should be lynched?
If not that what do you think is the second option?
3rd what if nothing happens.
Where will you stand at that point?

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Let's play devil's advocate for a moment.
Let's say she is telling the truth about this mystery of voting.
Worst case and best case thoughts.
Do you think kayne should be lynched?
If not that what do you think is the second option?
3rd what if nothing happens.
Where will you stand at that point?

I think I've been pretty clear that I think LLD is bus'ing... which means they'd both be scum.

Why do you think that?

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Town:
kayne
Camn
Muffin
Iron (vi and sadly many negative things I'd normally say about this player I'm leaving unsaid)

Leaning town:
Spiffeh
hiplop (sadly, still love you dude)
Drama (that scum list so bad)
Lld (player I'd like to slap for being irrational.

null (meh)

Questionable/scummy
KMD - comes across as fake
Spy
Fate (??)
Dgb

Vote: Dgb

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Add spring to leaning town too

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Assuming the guilty is real I think springlullaby is a likely scumbuddy of hiplop

Updated reads list

Town: DGB, Muffin, iraonavp
Townlean: Fate, farside
Null: LLD
Scumlean: SpyreX, springlullaby, KMD
Scum: dramonic, hiplop

If the cop claim is fake do you think dgb is still town?

[farside22]

My kingdom for a player that I can bounce thoughts off on.

[farside22]

me plz

You're a scum read based on that reaction.
I need someone who isn't scummy would be preferred

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meh I'll throw out my thoughts in general.

I don't believe dgb's claim, her read this game show no indication she was scum reading hippy. Her investigation claim is the equivalent of me pulling a rabbi out of my ass.
Hippy's reaction is worse. My initial thoughts was this reads like a bus.
But then I ask what does dgb get out of this, she either has to explain why she is alive for the rest of the game, or she did this to survive a few lynches.
She has yet to explain the helping LLD bus her scum buddy when she never read kayne as scum.
Pretty sure she voted kayne on purpose.
Some part would also like to see lld either get her head out of her butt or be lynched.
On a side not, if DGB claimed to check kmd and get an innocent you best believe that shit is a joke.


Anyways that's where my head is currently at.

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meh I'll throw out my thoughts in general.

I don't believe dgb's claim, her read this game show no indication she was scum reading hippy. Her investigation claim is the equivalent of me pulling a rabbi out of my ass.
Hippy's reaction is worse. My initial thoughts was this reads like a bus.
But then I ask what does dgb get out of this, she either has to explain why she is alive for the rest of the game, or she did this to survive a few lynches.
She has yet to explain the helping LLD bus her scum buddy when she never read kayne as scum.
Pretty sure she voted kayne on purpose.
Some part would also like to see lld either get her head out of her butt or be lynched.

On a side note, if DGB claimed to check kmd and get an innocent you best believe that shit is a joke.

Anyways that's where my head is currently at.

Fixed and bolded the important issue I have as well.

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Hippy's reaction is worse. My initial thoughts was this reads like a bus.

how is my reaction bad

You believe her claim without questioning anything.

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That was awful LLD.

SpyreX no mystery town points for you

Going to an island where I can see Russia and push the limits of human endurance V/LA not that Katsuki would replace me because of how he's trolled me this game.

Hiplop is scum. Farside why would you investigate someone you're reading as scum and a null read?

Not ready for day to end cause obv won't be able to take to scumteam while VLA for 3 days

Where did you see that from dgb at all.
Why would you investigate at town read fate?
I'd investigate a scum read personally because I tunnel players

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I don't believe dgb's claim, her read this game show no indication she was scum reading hippy. Her investigation claim is the equivalent of me pulling a rabbi out of my ass.
Hippy's reaction is worse. My initial thoughts was this reads like a bus.

this is funny, because my first thought when reading it was something along these lines happening in the scum qt last night

dgb: "trololol i said lld was bussing kanye and no one made a fuss about how bullshit that was"
hiplop: "yea i noe right. also im scum"
dgb: "you know what would actually be funny? if we did something like that with a fake cop guilty. no one would believe it"
hiplop: "omg awesome. also im scum"
spyrex: "me too"

but i don't actually think it's likely for pretty much the same reason as you said. outside of having to explain living deep into the game, there's a lot of potential ways she could be fucked over even before then

the hiplop/spyrex parts of that conversation still probably happened though

Thank you.

I also wanted it out there for someone with common sense to think about late in game.
The whole convoy with hippy/dgb is just that make worse.
No fight, and if I was a betting person Katsuki problem has a game with cop sanity is paranoid, but again I go back to Hippy's reaction, the lack of shock or doubt is just off the chains scummy.
Add to the question to dgb why she thought lld was bussing that she still hasn't responded to.

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On a side note this convo us very good as far as how I see spy but should end as far as what happened.

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On a side note this convo is very good as far as how I see spy but should end as far as what happened.

Fucking auto correct.
Fixed it

[farside22]

VOTE: Hippy

Null:
DGB
Lld

Scum:
Hippy
KMD
Fate

[farside22]

Don't f this up let the day continue for a bit before the inevitable kthx

I noted something about yesterday. I'm not sure if I'm correct about what occurred with LLD, but if my theory is correct I'm not concerned.
If it's not correct I'm still not concerned since hip's like confirmed scum. Even his pleading is scummy.
Oh and I got bored, looked at games that Kats modded (under her account) I saw no cop with insane used before.
link to my boring search

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I noted something about yesterday. I'm not sure if I'm correct about what occurred with LLD, but if my theory is correct I'm not concerned.
If it's not correct I'm still not concerned since hip's like confirmed scum. Even his pleading is scummy.

How profoundly insightful.

psyduck alpaca sucks

But you know what, I just noticed that psyduck also happens to be your avatar if I'm not mistaken. This makes me see the whole point about DGB bus because, OMG, like really?

Some mods give scum safe claims.
One game the scum knew there was no doc in the game.
But it's just odd how hippy is acting in regards to the claim.
Again. Our surprise, no questioning, no doubts.

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Oh I forgot, to drama, I don't know if your fishing for my thought on lld, but I'm not sharing my theory.

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Don't f this up let the day continue for a bit before the inevitable kthx

I noted something about yesterday. I'm not sure if I'm correct about what occurred with LLD, but if my theory is correct I'm not concerned.
If it's not correct I'm still not concerned since hip's like confirmed scum. Even his pleading is scummy.
Oh and I got bored, looked at games that Kats modded (under her account) I saw no cop with insane used before.
link to my boring search

I'm not saying don't lynch him. I'm saying let's sort a few other things out and do stuff like have fate have a chance to words or kmd to post.

unvote

jic

There's a far more obvious flavor piece to him being scum but let's leave that.

I will say clearly though i had 0 to do with the ??? Vote yesterday.

Alright dad.

Unvote

I'm pretty sure kmd is just going to lurk this game regardless of waiting.

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Oh I forgot, to drama, I don't know if your fishing for my thought on lld, but I'm not sharing my theory.

Then why tell us about it except not really?

Spy was concerned about the current vote status.

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Just a couple of things I noted.

Dram it could be that im scum, but i thought iraonavp was very transparently town in the other game. Was doing things that whule misguided, seemed to be really trying/kind of doing things

This is a very different iraoan

I mean mayhe he just has less to work on but hes definitely different


Unsure of if that makes him scum, though

hiplop what is your read on dram?

maybe scum. not enoughyet

VOTE: dram

is iraonavp a jester

I'd say based on these comments that hippy/iron don't make sense.
Some ways hippy eludes to iron as possible scum and drama says he doesn't see anything different.
Also I don't see the vote on drama as a bus. Just looks like sheeping vote.

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Except in town

Who is scum and why?

i got the opposite impression reading those posts

hiplop's early stance on iraon followed by a drought of opinions on him is what bothers me

I just see it as trying to find a weak reason to vote a player and then switch when another wagon forms.

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iroan is probably scum because hes even considering town me

dram is scum

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iroan is probably scum because hes even considering town me

dram is scum

when they flip scum will you apologize to being rude to me this game

Nope.
I'd actual give you an earful for have reasons that are not only awful but nothing explaining jack shit.
And as much as I teased about how you play when your town I do recall better then what you have done thus far.

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Mmmmm

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Hippy why were you not surprised by dgb claim and why assume she was insane first?

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I reread drama, slept on it and I'm sure most would disagree but I don't care.

Vote: drama

Null:

DGB
Lld

Scum:
KMD
Drama
Fate

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Can someone tell me why dramonic is getting votes when there's a claimed guilty?

Because he is scum.

Can you tell me why you are actively lurking this game?

[farside22]

What?

Back in my day, that would never be a serious arguement. Maybe from the person being lynched, but that's it.

Lurking as scum was much easier too, poor kmd.

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And in other news I recheck Kats post to see if this was bastard
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p8156216

Nope. It's not.

Vote: hippy

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I don't like farsides reads anymore and "trying something new!" This game is a default scumtell for me

That's nice.
I wonder if it has anything to do with my scum tell on you.

Unvote

I'm curious what the mod will say

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Everyone can post inb4 lock now

Didn't count but my hammer powers lately have been strong.

Dram can die no matter what hiplop scumflips

I counted the votes and thwrestling was 6 unless I miscounted

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What scumtell? You mean read? Yeah something

I've been doing things different doesn't equal scum.
In what world it does I have no clue.
For me personally it's null.
I like to change things regardless of alignment.

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Goofball would you please ask the mod to clarify your sanity.

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The mods not going to confirm sanity


Will you take a stance on whether you think hiplop is scum or not ffs

I don't think he's scum.
At first yes, now no.
Why do you think he is, not taking the cop claim into this from you.

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Goofball would you please ask the mod to clarify your sanity.

Uh?

Are you noob?

The point of "sanity" variations is that the cop does NOT know

And player typical try to ask anyways.
Or are you just going let's lynch and not care mode?

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I said D1 I felt there was scum between/Spiffeh / hiplop, can't really take the guilty out of the equation.


The reaction was bad which I've also already mentioned. He just didn't seem to come at it with any sort of gambit skepticism or thinking she could be scum. his VT claim in a madness game is crap too, Im the only one Fate would troll with a VT role in a madness game.

The dram read is weak as hell, and it's all he's giving us. He knows he's flipping red today

Why do you think there is scum between spiff/hiplop.
Pretty sure I said something about Hippy's reaction.
No where in any post I can find did you say anything similar.

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Yahhhhhhh!!!
N2 kill choice, I feel honored