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The way I see it, there are three 'teams'- pirates, ninjas, and town, with a few possible people with alternate win conditions. There's probably a pirate cop and doc, as well as a ninja cop and doc- a fact supported by DGB's role. I'd also expect some kind of weapons dealer. Also, Thok, Guardian typically writes Haiku in early days- it's not a PR.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Vote: Thesp. As proven with Luke Skywalker and the opening text, there are those who are niether. That you didn't know this makes you #1 on my list.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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That's not what I'm suggesting, however, the way I see it the pirates and ninjas are 'scumgroups' of a sort. Thesp said he wanted to force people to say which they were, making it seem to me like he wasn't aware that some people weren't either, therefore he is one of the two, ie scum. I have my doubts as to this theory, seeing as he'd have to pretty much have missed the opening scene, but it's at least a start.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I'm afraid I don't quite follow.Thesp wrote:
I am troubled/saddened by the fact that you were so blatant about this.Gorrad wrote:Vote: Thesp. As proven with Luke Skywalker and the opening text, there are those who are niether.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Ah. Yeah, well...blarg. Not that I aprove of trickery or honestly think anyone would fall for that, but yeah. Sorry.Erg0 wrote:I think Thesp was hoping to trick those who lack basic literacy skills.UnvoteI will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I am currently playing a game
Where I am doing the same
I did some haiku
When someone else did so too
My love of the art is to blame
Guardian- your head should not swell
That I like to rhyme is not a tell
If there's another poet
No matter my allignment
I'll join him in meter as well
Moreover that you should think
That this tell would make scum here sink
A "scumtell" for me
would not possibly
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I see where people are coming from on the Iammars wagon, but I think it's kind of weak reasoning.FoS: Iammars. Iammars, thoughts?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Ok, the whole discussing the setup thing? I don't get how that's scummy. If I saw someone else do it, I'd see it as a null-tell. Obviously some of y'all see it as scummy, if y'all want to explain why, that's cool, either way I really can't defend myself against something I don't understand.
As for Mars, he's getting a good number of votes while he's not at his computer. The logic behind his bandwagon is the biggest tell I've seen in the game so far, so normally I'd vote him, but I'd rather give him a chance to say his peace than add one more vote to the list of ones he gets while not able to explain himself.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I don't follow, sorry.Mgm wrote:Gorrad, it's not the discussing of the setup that is scummy, it is the manner in which you and Mr. Iammars are doing so.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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His piratey confirmation. It was a weak tell, but still the biggest I'd seen in the first few pages. I'm satified with his explanation, though, so I'm back to no leads so far.Mgm wrote:
So what tell did you see?Gorrad wrote:As for Mars, he's getting a good number of votes while he's not at his computer. The logic behind his bandwagon is the biggest tell I've seen in the game so far, so normally I'd vote him, but I'd rather give him a chance to say his peace than add one more vote to the list of ones he gets while not able to explain himself.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I honestly don't see anyone standing out right now- there's a lot of bad play here, enough that no one person stands out among it all. I'm going to reread soon (probably later today), but a vast majority of this thread has either been attack of me or attack of Iammars, neither of which I find based on good nor on solid tells.Claus wrote:Also, I don't like when people say "Oh, I have no leads". Don't be timid, we won't laugh at you if you tell us who you suspect!FoS: Everyone on either bandwagon.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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What other explanation would you have expected? "Aw, shucks, you got me"?Gorrad wrote:His piratey confirmation. It was a weak tell, but still the biggest I'd seen in the first few pages. I'm satified with his explanation, though, so I'm back to no leads so far.
Now, I might be looking into this too much, but isn't your second quote here directly contradicting the first? The fact that you asked him if he was a pirate leads me to think yes, there WERE other ways he could claim. Otherwise you wouldn't have asked him that. I saw you ask him, and thought 'Oh, he's trying to trick someone again. I'd better not screw it up.' So I FoS'd to try and help.Thesp wrote:By the way, Iammars, are you a pirate?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I wasn't very suspicious, no. I understood were people were coming from, but the basis of the wagon was so weak that I figured it had to be a trap I would be interrupting again by pointing out. I never intended to vote for him.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I'm a Hale and Hardy person. I think I can stand your disbelief, especially seein' as how I have nothing more to say on the matter.Thesp wrote:
I don't believe this for a moment. I hope a vig has good sense and kills you dead tonight.Gorrad wrote:I wasn't very suspicious, no. I understood were people were coming from, but the basis of the wagon was so weak that I figured it had to be a trap I would be interrupting again by pointing out. I never intended to vote for him.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Well a lot of his play, especially the ridiculous traps and bandwagons, just doesn't seem like smart play. It sounds like scum trying to look town but not actually doing something that could pay off. His posts are also fairly opportunistic and with weak logic. I frankly expected more from him.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I very much disagree with this. I enjoy when the town has powerroles.UltimaAvalon wrote:
Regardless of the time of day or the circumstances surrounding it, massclaims are pro-town. Period.I also still don't remotely understand the objection to what I had to say about mass-claim.
Also, while I must say Flameaxe is, as always, being very unhelpful, his posts make me laugh.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Thesp, can you give me three good, solid reasons why I'm a better lynch than you (AKA, no 'I'm town, so I shouldn't be lynched')? And of course I'll do the same.
1. Thesp has been pressing a bandwagon on very poor points.
2. Thesp is pushing massclaiming. I cannot see any advantage to this that outweighs the disadvantage of having our most potent powerroles picked off.
3. Thesp is a very experienced player, and as such the only reason I can fathom why he'd be so opportunistic and weak-reasoned is if he was scum. I said before, I expected more from him. Also, in your last post, you didn't mention a single point against me, but still voted me at the end. Honestly, it seems you're covering your bases in case another bandwagon starts up while trying to not look like votehopping scum
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I don't like Mgm's posts in general, but I don't find them outstandingly scummy, just unhelpful. Honestly, if he actually hunted more, I'd have him smack dab in the middle of no-tell zone.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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[quote="Mgm"]I've shared my thoughts on the Iammars wagon before and how Gorrad tries to reason it to be a good wagon makes me suspect of him./quote]
This right here? This is an example of just not paying attention.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Well, I suppose I might as well claim due to my not being dead yet. I'm Oliver Hardy, mason with Stan Laurel, hasdgfas. I am told in my role PM that he's a good guy, 100% pro-town, so by vigging me at least you got a confirmed innocent. Now gee, if only you'd have let me claim CONFIRMABLE INNOCENT before you vigged, maybe I'd not be dead. MBL, you suck.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I'm a Hale and Hardy person. I think I can stand your disbelief, especially seein' as how I have nothing more to say on the matter.Thesp wrote:
I don't believe this for a moment. I hope a vig has good sense and kills you dead tonight.Gorrad wrote:I wasn't very suspicious, no. I understood were people were coming from, but the basis of the wagon was so weak that I figured it had to be a trap I would be interrupting again by pointing out. I never intended to vote for him.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Because I thought I was dead. The fact that I can confirm him protown would have helped later. Otherwise, there would be people either a) thinking he might be scum partnered with town (If I didn't say he was confirmed) or b) claiming Laurel (if I did say he was confirmed, but not who he was). Obviously, I didn't WANT to claimt his early, but I felt I had no better option.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I told you my logic. I wanted a confirmed innocent to make up for a dead confirmable innocent. I'm sorry, 'kay?Thestatusquo wrote:Why the hell would you claim your partners name?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I'm trying to decide if MBL's play is scummy or stupid, and I'm leaning towards the latter. Anyone know if his play is usually this terrible?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Terrible, terrible playstyle. Always try and contribute. As for the confirmation, I want you to think about that. Would scum honestly claim their partner for the same reasons I did? I thought I was dead, so I claimed to confirm another innocent. If I was scum, I would have said Bah or at least not brought another scum with me.Twomz wrote:Pfft @ Gorrad/Hasdgfas: Because you know, everyone always contributes so much on Day 1. I consider myself uncontributional until I either start a proper bandwagon, help pick out a scum or figure out some big important fact about the game. And y'all aren't 'confirmed' innocents until one of you gets killed.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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And man, I completely forgot we already know MBL's alignment. Just stupid play then. The clarification being a) faking a dayvig you do not have (I find faked roles scummy/bad play no matter the context) and then b) denying the fact that I'm certainly town, as seen in the post above.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Very good post, Cicero. I wholeheartedly agree with everything except the Guardian/Thesp argument- I really don't see much of a case on Guardian, care to elaborate on it?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I state again: I didn't copy poems due to my being scum, not even a little bit. If I had done so, I would be agreeing with you that it is a scumtell. Unless you think I'm lying about the mason claim and am scum trying to protect someone, there's no reason for me to lie about that now.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Iammars hasn't really been active in any of his games, I'm not willing to vote him for it. I really don't see a case for K-Scope, and it looks like a scumwagon to me (FoS: Mgm). Right now, Thesp is the best lynch. However, I really don't want a d1 no-lynch, so if it's getting too close to deadline I'll reanalyse.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Awhoops, reread too fast. Swapped you and Twomz : P.Mgm wrote:
Huh? What has the Kscope wagon got to do with me?Gorrad wrote:Iammars hasn't really been active in any of his games, I'm not willing to vote him for it. I really don't see a case for K-Scope, and it looks like a scumwagon to me (FoS: Mgm). Right now, Thesp is the best lynch. However, I really don't want a d1 no-lynch, so if it's getting too close to deadline I'll reanalyse.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I meant that Thok was right about Guardian wanting to exert some control over the town. As seen in Ork mafia where he pushed that frikkin' massclaim for what, 40 pages?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Can you be more specific?Twomz wrote:at first glance it appears as if 1/2 the people on the wagon are either confirmed or not really being considered right now.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I'm in the same boat at Hasd here. There's a lot of long posts, most of which I find full of nice, puffy, fluff. It's easy to get lost, hear the same points over and over again, and come out worse for the wear. I'm standing by my previous points. I think a K-Scope wagon just for lurking is totally scum driven, which fits in with Guardian's Thesp-scum points. Frankly, I see all signs pointing to Thesp right now.Guardian wrote:ps: Gorrad, cow, MBL: Only one of you is voting for me or scope, and none of you have been particularly active.
Being pseudo-confirmed town is a great chance to *lead*, and make things happen, without lots of suspicion back for it :\. so use this opportunity.
Of Guardian and K-Scope, I don't see either as particularly scummy. Guardian's just as pushy and jumpy as he was in Ork, and while I'd like K-Scope to post more, to save his own hide if nothing else, I don't see much scum there. It frankly looks like scum trying to push an easy lynch of a lurker- akin to them pushing the easy lynch of someone with a piratey confirmation. Who really started hard on those two people? I do believe it was Thesp.
Guardian- What makes you so frikkin' sure one pregame piratey post is such a scumtell? Seriously, it's not important, especially when there's so much else to go on. I'm frankly ashamed so many people are wasting time on it. I find a lot of your posts very Guardian-town-esque, but the amount you're pushing on this is, as the Sicilians say, inconcievable.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Mostly I just want to know why such a minor point is any part of your argument whatsoever on page 38. Yeah, it's ok to talk about it (although not bandwagon it) when there's nothing else to go on, but it's page 38. We have PLENTY to talk about.Guardian wrote:Well, Gorrad, at what time in the game are you referring to? When I first brought it up, I thought it was the best thing we had in the game.
Now, I look as it as adding to the fact that Iammars's play has been rather lurky and not town-helpful. At this point, it is part of my suspicion for Iammars, not the totality.
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Seriously. Drop it. It's NOTHING. Don't think that I'm defending Mars, I generally haven't liked his play so far (especially the wiki part. It just seems like he's trying to hedge his bets if someone asks 'hey, who is a pro-town pirate?'), but bringing up a piratey confirmation as a scumtell just seems desperate to seem active and scumhunting.
The dead horse is beaten. It drops a subject change- Thesp: Scummy or Very Scummy?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I'll check back before I go to bed tonight. I agree No Lynch d1 sucks, but I'm not giving up hope on a Thesp lynch yet.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Gods above... My vote goes right back onto Thesp tommorow, but for now I suppose it's time to pray to Olidammara that he's bussing.
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A cutlass is indeed a pirate sword. It's those wicked curved blades they're always depicted carrying.
Vote: ThespCarryover.
As for the endday scene, Fhwgwgads and I talked last night and figured that the most likely situation is a one-shot protection townie. With the cross-kill pseudo-protection, it's unlikely (although not out of the question) for a one-shot lynch protection to be scum. Next likely is a governor who realised what a stupid, scummy lynch it was. I'd have rather it gone through to help info today, but that's not my choice.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Agreed.The Fonz wrote:
Apart from mason pairings, where presumably the two have to be from the same universe, i see no reason to think there is necessarily more than one character from each Mythos, nor do think it's fair to claim that we only have 'leading man' characters based on a handful of deaths.Skruffs wrote:Also:
This wasn't adressed yesterday, but is there anyone else who would like to 'vouch' for Guardian's Samwise claim? Perhaps Frodo, Bilbo, Gandalf, Sauron, etc?
Anyone from that universe at all?
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Guardian there was a question asked earlier that I didn't see you respond to. Why track Erg0? With all your d1 suspicions, wouldn't Thesp have been a better choice?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I agree with Erg0. Guardian was lying about one, he's more than likely lying about the other.Vote: Thesp,
Also, the arm sliced off thing? Complete Star War reference (Luke dangling from one arm, then getting a mechanical one). Props on the fine details, Stoofer.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Oy, last remaining goblin- You really targetted Erg0 the other night? Kill him yourself. You want him outta the way at least as much as we do, and we have other things to do than follow the advice of your scumbuddy.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Ok, I want everyone to read this paragraph, find the one big, major thing wrong with it, and say it.Skruffs wrote:Big finger of suspicion on gorrad there: guardian had no reason to lie about erg0, and it seems the 'thok hate' was 'justified', thok must have indicated he knew goblins were scum in some way.
I was wondering why I was still alive on d3.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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Quoted for bump/emphasis.Gorrad wrote:Oy, last remaining goblin- You really targetted Erg0 the other night? Kill him yourself. You want him outta the way at least as much as we do, and we have other things to do than follow the advice of your scumbuddy.I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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I dunno, because Stoofer has different priorities than you? A lot of people only had one line.Skruffs wrote:Something seems odd. Why did Gandalf have his own paragraph, and Bruce Lee just a byline?I will not assume everyone with blue eyes has Mako poisoning
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