Thespival Mafia (Denouement)
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hey alll...sorry for my first post being five pages in, i'm in the middle of some college auditions, so business all around. Will be done in three days though, so I won't be a slug for long. Read the thread, and agree with suspicion on both GS and Iammars. I don't think it's possible to just assume someone could be either town or cult, if your a simple townie. All townies come in with the glaring mindset that O-M-G, anybody could be anybody, and there is no real assumptions or omissions like the one Iammars made possible.
Greasy spot is just sketchy all around, and unnecessary so. Nothing insightful to add there, really.
I would vote GS now, but I'll honor mith's wishes. I'm ready to jump on it ASAP though. I find him more scummy than Iammars.-
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I apologize for not saying it earlier. I agree that the jester should claim, but I am not the jester. It took me a while to understand the logic behind that at first, but now I get it.
Also, I am finding greasy spot more and more frusterating. His extreme contrariness and reluctance to cooperate with anyone is just not making sense to me. I can't fathom why anyone would play in this manner. GS, can't you see that your hindering everyone, including yourself? It's silly, really. If your were scum it wouldn't be hard to slip in between the cracks, at least in day one. Why paint such a target on yourself? You befuddle me.-
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I would be careful with all the discussion of hasdg's speech impediment. he wants it on, and with all this talking about it we might inadvertadly cause something to happen to him. Who knows, but better safe than sorry.
(Of course I'm only assuming it's a pro-town speech impediment. but one again, who knows.)
Should we agree to let it be?
PS: Totally agree with AK that all recruiting should be done by group consensus, and tyhess merely be the instrument of procedure.-
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BM, you have to at least admit that it's extremely plausible to hold a case against Greasy spot, regardless of whether or not your personally believe it or not. Denying any kind of plausibility when it's blatantly there for all who can read just makes you look scummy.
Speaking of GS, am I just silly or is he keeping a low profile now? he doesn't do much to help his case. Nobody likes a formerly scummy lurker.-
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this little post stuck out to me, BM has already answered the question...why would it make him more scummy if he doesnt answer it again? Seems like you just wanted a reason to say something and look town here. please explain.
All right, I'll explain, even though it's not really too complex. You don't think it looks scummy to dance around a question evasively? Well, I do. is that enough explanation?
And I would think of something very clever to acronymize BM into, but a wise old guru once told me don't feed the trolls.
And thirdly, all this second-place or third place crap is ridiculous. I feel like we're a bunch of three year olds arguing over a four-square game. Come on people. And finally, can we lease get more detailed arguments than just "A" is "A" or "X" or "X". really, people, Bullcrap is Bullcrap. rant over.-
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so you have a night power as well as the random powers? I think everyone would appreciate it if you sacrificied your night power tonight just to explain everything. People are getting suspicious. aren't powers on night one, other tha scum, of course, kinda random and arbitrary anyway? it's up to you.-
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witholding information is never in the interest of the town. Has it's starting to look like your gonna have to take one for the team and sacrifice your powers for a day/night. Surely it isn't worth getting lynched over.
This vote is temporary, and will be removed the instant you break your post restriction.
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I didn't vote for a reason. I'd understand these attacks if I voted for him off the bat. I want to see how he responds to the new votes on him as well. Can we at least wait til that happens before we get this RW bandwagon going? I'm honestly very suprised by this, I wasn't aware I was apparently being so scummy-
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Sarcasto, I don't like that one bit. You hammered GS, which I can't and won't condemn in and of itself, but now you're voting for me while actually admitting that you don't even really have a reason. You just fully owned up to jumping on a bandwagon for no good reason.
FoS: Sarcasto
and please don't write this off as OMGUS because it is anything but. You're getting yourself a bad track record my very oppurtunistic friend-
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No....His exact words were
If he agreed with Pooky, he would just say, I agree with Pooky. But he puts in his disclaimer about how he hasn't read everything yet. and he did put the hammer on GS last game after only just replacing into the game. I want to hear everybody's thoughts on that.I've almost finished reading, so until then I'm just going to agree with Pooky.
And I said mith was obviously not scummy because mith's card says Mason on it. I meant he was obviously not scummy now, i had no real opinion of him yesterday except he was a smart player.
and lastly, I am the farthest thing from frantic. It's virtually impossible to be frantic on a forum, and by saying that, you are misrepresenting me. so let's go easy on that.-
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and plus, the only words Pooky has said all day other than his vote for me and fis first "good morning" post are "choo choo."
Sarc, where in those two words do you find enough facts to sign your vote on with? Is it the first choo? the second choo? enlighten me please. BM, alko, do you really find him not sketchy at all? Is blatant oppurtunism not a scumtell?-
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I messed up by being willing to get behind a wolfcrier bandwagon without having much original reasons of my own. Then when confronted about why I'd be willing to join said bandwagon, I ended up with my foot in my mouth. I goofed, yes, but six votes is a lot.
And pooky, I'm not gonna play games with you. I'm not going to name a specific number. If you want to have fun with me by trying to make me look stupid, it's not gonna work.-
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I honestly don't know. I probably would have waited a little bit to see if i could find a proper reason to join the bandwagon, and if I couldn't, then I wouldn't. The accusation against me made me act a little bit faster then I should have, and I obviously hadn't given it enough thought to back it up. But who knows.-
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Is this vote still paired with your total scum list? Because if that's the case I would have probably echoed some good point somewhere that someone else made about Monkey. Like I said, I didn't think it through. I probably would have behaved similary. You may perceive this as scummy behavior, that's up to you, but at this point I think the best thing for me to do is just be honest regardless of consequence. Cutting corners certainly got me in a hole.-
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Maybe. Probably not. If it was someone who was totally out of the blue, I would i have realized I would look like a total tool following you and kept it to myself. But anyone with some degree of suspicion on them, yes1.) Can I conclude correctly that you would have found a reason to vote most anyone I happened to vote at the beginning of Day Two (besides a vote on yourself)?
I do find you town enough, and you come off like you know what your doing. But it's not especially you, I probably would have acted the same if it was any experianced player who made the post. Your someone that other people in the game would follow, and you were calling me suspicious. It would have to be someone of equal par to that. So if it was greasy spot making the post, then I would have stayed clear away.-->1a.) If you answered "yes", why is that? Have you found me particularly town, or is it something else?
Not always, I will usually try to find my own opinions. But when I feel like I'm at stake, I have a bad tendacy to act too fast, and take the easy route out.-->1b.) Are you the type of player who votes based on other players' votes?
I'd like to say no because of all the negative stigma associated with the term, but like I said before, I cut corners sometimes. I suppose that technically I am a bandwagoner, but only when I'm rushing, or lazy.-->1c.) Do you consider yourself a bandwagoner?
I'll admit, i haven't been paying him much attention, but I went back an gathered all his posts for review. I agree completely with his points about tyhess's cult, back in the early game when he was barely noticed. Then he got a bit contradictory when he made his dual accusation against BM and GS (who were vehemently anti-jester intrigue), while at the same time chastizing the rest of the town for being preoccupied with all the jester intrigue. It could be interperated that he was bandwagoning there, but at the same time, he voted for neither BM or GS. so I don't know. a couple pages later he started his real fued with BM, with his amusing kid's birthday party post. 388. BM responded, and I have to be honest, most of it goes over my head. Pooky makes more sense of it afterwards though. QuickBen confirms his apathy about the whole jester thing. then wooosh, greasy spot is lynched, mith and dani night killed, and we're at day two. He has yet to post today.2.) What do you think of Quickben?
So in conclusion, I definately think he has done some sketchy things. The pro-jester/anti-jester contradiction with GS and BM sticks out the most. I'll keep on eye on him, and I'm glad you got me to read up on him, but for now I don't have enough to vote for him or anything like that.
Yes, I am interested in hunting scum. But other than pressuring has to break his post restriction, I haven't done much yet. I'm still a relatively inexperianced player, and I've found I have a hard time reading someone's posts and analyzing their alleigance from it. I'm working on it, but to really be able to do that flawlessly comes with playing tonnes and tonnes and mafia games. I have not yet completed a game. However, I am going to do my best to retain objectivity, and every experiance in these games, including this one, puts me on the path towards being a much better, smoothly player. I'm in my awkward teen stages of mafia, if you will. Just gotta wait til the zits go away and my voice stops changing.3.) Are you actually interested in hunting for scum? If so, please show me an example in the game where you believe you have honestly made an effort to catch scum.-
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I'm going to california for an international colorguard competition, and I'm leaving tomorrow. I'm going to bring my laptop to the hotel i'm staying in, but there's no guarentee it'll have internet access there. So if all goes well, I'll keep posting regularly, but if I have bad luck you won't see me til sunday. I'm crossing my fingers for a good hotel, but who knows, colorguards are skimpy.-
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Pooky, I don't get it! how will lynching CB show what Wolfcrier's alignment is? So confused! and how will Talitha, MeMe, and Holy be cleared? Because they all have uteruses? uteri? gah! Wouldn't the only true way to detect wolfcrier's alightment be to lynch wolfcrier? And that's not any harder than lynching CB! so confused!Hapless Dupe Number Four has to be the complete klutz and have no idea what is going on.-
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pooky, i get what your saying, and i'm glad you spelled it out, because i wouldn't have thought of that, and now that I see it, it's enough to make me vote farside. I feel really bad cause you just replaced into a really bad spot, and didn't really have much chance to change things, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Sorry farside.
vote: farside22-
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this could all be bogus, we have no way of knowing if her claim and history is accurate. I could just as easily say I'm the doctor and I protected Generic Gina last night. But better safe than sorry. If her claim is false, it's at least bought her some time. If her claim is accurate she'll probably be dead tonight anyway. I think we should cut her some slack FOR NOW and focus attention on JDGA
vote: unvote
mildFOS: everyone who's not unvoting
but just a mild one. everyone's provided valid reasons for acting the way they are, except Sarcasto. care to explain why your so positive she's scum, big guy? Just cause pooky says she is, maybe?
PS: Sorry, kinda broke my HD role there. just imagine everything I just typed interspersed with .......ummms and huhs and we're all good-
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oh yeah, tyhess. I see what you're saying. If I had replaced into this game and recieved information from the mod on who my predesesor protected, I would have said, , "So and so protected whoever." Not "I protected whoever." This is subjective, of course, so it's not enough for me to revote, but it's still worthy of a raised eyebrow-
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Sarcasto, you can keep saying it all you want, but the rest of the town is opposed to reckless self-endangerment. Farside is not getting lynched today. If she's scum, good for her for pulling a fast one on us, but even if thats the case we'll lynch her tomorrow. Unless something drastic happens, I vote.
vote: JDGA
This vote has dual purposes. To get him out of hiding, and to potentially start the alternate bw, just to satisfy the deadline.-
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Sarc, I realize I'm getting more and more frusterated with you on a personal level, and that's immature and distracts from what we're supposed to be doing hear. I'm hereby going to tune you out, because you've said nothing of worth or insight and been nothing but belligerant and antagonistic at the same time. I won't sink to your level anymore-
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I just had a thought. I've been perfectly content waiting on the JDGA wagon for him to come back and post, but than I realized, what if he is indeed the joker? He sees he's well on the way to lynch, and conveniantly dissapears, let us think he's chicken or something, and lynch him. voila, he wins. this just made me really nervous, but I don't know if i'm willing to unvote yet. I don't know yet who a plausible replacement would be.-
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Oh. I didn't even notice. heh, funny that. but it doesn't matter, you know what I meant. we're close to a deadline, let's not waste time on you say TOE-mato, I say to-MAH-to.
But do see what I mean about him being in the optimal place for the jester? If he was scum wouldn't he have defended himself by now? Has anyone noticed if he's been lurking? or maybe is he is scum and is just genuinly M.I.A? Gah, this is a headache. I could argue myself to believe either way. I think I'm gonna just stay on his BW and cross my fingers.-
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