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Post Post #245 (isolation #0) » Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:02 pm

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Okay-- I am tagging in and am Replacing one Kommandant.

Anyone care to give me a quick summary of where things stand.

I looked over this thread and have some idea of roles that are gone.

Also if someone could quickly sum up why you are voting for who you are that would be ever so helpful.

Also quick procedure question-- are proxying of votes used here at mafia scum or not. GIven the slow place I take it no vote proxies but just want to double check.
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Post Post #247 (isolation #1) » Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:17 pm

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A proxy is giving someone else to the power to cast your vote. Used often in games I have played in past but some places do not allow proxies. Since the pace here is so slow I imagine proxies are disallowed.

A proxy would be I give so and so power to cast my vote--

at any rate from what I looked over without scrolling over page one.

I see no real reason for these votes. So I cast a vote toward
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Post Post #250 (isolation #2) » Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:09 pm

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thanks-- just YAW just a piece of site ediquette I was not fully aware.

Vote Internet Stranger


many reason for this vote looking through the thread.

He first of all started on the player being sent on a lynch train currently during day one for a lame reason. Gee he had a different idea about Gollum.

He had weird interactions with one Mr. Flay-- more so then the current lynch target has.

We do have multiple bad guys so prone to have a few weird interactions.

Internet Stranger may actually be associated with the spider character.

Unless it was a set up, Rick was primarily calling IS on his BS.

I see some things don't change no matter where you are, players often vote on lame reasons and seldom take time to think and sort things through.

The one interesting piece is tha Kor is an off voter. Of course if you add in all the non-voted like the player I am substituting for the off voter list is a bit longer.

At any rate, the current lynch train to me seems foolish and I find IS at the heart of it. Now maybe his style is to be wild and disjointed but if not a bad guy he sure seems to be helping them.
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Post Post #252 (isolation #3) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:45 am

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Internet Stranger wrote:
He first of all started on the player being sent on a lynch train currently during day one for a lame reason. Gee he had a different idea about Gollum.
You certainly dont mean the player on the lynch train that just so happened to be a GOBLIN, do you?!?


Nope-- I mean the player that is currently being lynched, you tried to drive toward being lynched the first day. Cast several votes his way. You DID NOT drive the Jediknight lynch train.
He had weird interactions with one Mr. Flay-- more so then the current lynch target has.
What interactions? I dont even remember talking to him!

Funny because you had an exchange--not quite sure what to make of it, but you had more conversation then the current lynchee had.
Internet Stranger may actually be associated with the spider character.
Spider character?!?! How the hell do you figure that?!? Now thats just fluttering crap into the air.

WEll whatever susbstance killed with the silky substance.
Unless it was a set up, Rick was primarily calling IS on his BS.
In case you havent noticed, everyone calls BS on IS. Including you.


So then you are a weak player who has no clue.
I see some things don't change no matter where you are, players often vote on lame reasons and seldom take time to think and sort things through.
Yes, indeed. They dont. Helping the bad guys. Ridiculous. Were you not the one voting for me without even reading anything yet?

No I read. You were suspiscious and then what I read more detailed proved my guts to be correct.

Coolbot, you should thank Mr Shady Character here.
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Post Post #253 (isolation #4) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:42 am

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Internet Stranger wrote:What a load of crap, you people are clutching at straws again on a Day 1.

Your evil people are either Coolbot or Korais.

Unvote: Dragonmaster
Vote: Korais


And someone do something about lurkers. If you people want to have some silly vendetta, pick a lurker, not me.
IS first vote for mr Korais---

Mr. Flay was the first to vote for Korais. Atypical scum behavior but have seen it done. But here IS concludes 2 folks have to be evil-- based on WHAT?
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Post Post #254 (isolation #5) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:53 am

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Mr. Flay wrote:I still don't see why IS gets a pass. Granted, I've never played with him before, but he's essentially fingered 3 different people (dragonmaker, coolbot, and korais) for no visible reasons, votes for jediknight "just to end the day" when we haven't even heard from everyone, and seems to have some sort of feud with Yaw. He's even got people asking him who they should vote for, but not why (except Yaw). I'd vote for him, but he's bulletproof today, and then there's this...

Korais666 wrote:
Flay: We've only had one night, how could IS possibly be so sure of at least 3 people being guilty, even if he was a cop?
I didn't say he was sure of three people, I said there were ways to be sure someone is guilty. "sortamaybeevilbutmaybenot" is a townie vote, or a scum vote, IMO. My vote stands, but jediknight's looking better all the time.
Sorry IS-- you never did actually talk to Mr. Flay but he certainly made a weird comment to you. Korais and IS had a brief discussion about you.

So
UNVOTE INTERNET STRANGER


I do find the Rick link and the silky substance to point toward IS.

I will
vote Korais
here because that is a curious comment by flay defending while accusing. I do find IS behavior highly suspiscious but after taking a 2nd read after some sleep feel more comfortable going Korais route but the vote is piling rather fast but could provide interesting data.
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Post Post #258 (isolation #6) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:42 am

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SS- sorry thought I posted the explanation- must have hit preview instead of submit.


Rick's only suspect was who? Internet stranger. Other then joining the lynch train. IS was killed by the spider or web producing entity.

In general 4 reasons for a kill by a bad guy. Get rid of a dangerous player, hunting for cop, person had right suspects, or to throw suspiscion on the players suspects.

I don't know if Rick is a good and dangerous player to scum. This leads me to think cop hunting or he was on target with a suspect.
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Post Post #259 (isolation #7) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:46 am

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btw just did a little research in to what where I play as termed Speedbumps. Meaning not participating in the game.

So far no votes cast by these players.

Not voted- Narninian, Uraj45, yggdrasil, Meaning of Life 42, indentureddjinn

and this there current story

MOL- last active August 3rd- only posts to sign up as replacement.

Indent- last post july 23rd-been inactive- posted a couple times to say hey I am around and will say something later

Yggdrasil- replacement-vacation till 11th—

Uraj45- on vacation, limited action and game was stalled has checked in on other games.

Narninian-active on site but not in game thread

I realize this is a long game and plagued with having to replace but of those inactives the most curious is Narninian-- ulitmate speedbump.

Possible low flying scum or related to the game stalling?
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Post Post #261 (isolation #8) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:50 am

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sorry MOL looks to be another replacement who has not checked in. Date in queu says 9th not 3rd.

My reading of the dates of last post then might be a little off.

Ident is the one who seems AWOL from sight.
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Post Post #262 (isolation #9) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:54 am

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oh and then there is Shivan Dragon who was last posting in this thread on 8/6 but has yet to vote this game-- (don't know if they replaced anyone)
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Post Post #263 (isolation #10) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:57 am

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indentureddjinn wrote:sorry still reading thred, get back to you tomorrow

his last post-- apparently he is the one to be runnign mystery novels theme-- hope the guy is alright. Long time away from an apparent active user.
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Post Post #266 (isolation #11) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:22 am

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YAW-- a randomn kill falls under set up category. Kill someone for no reason in particular to throw off.

I tend to look at everything and see patterns. Again I don't know from squat but the kill is worth paying attention to. If IS is an often early viewed player then cool.

I already moved my vote anyway. Just wanted to throw the comment out there. Any piece of information can be important and experience scums will work away from known trends and change things up.

Oh and Rick was a day 2 kill--- Bad Guys do usually put thought into their kills.

if this was LOR would think A gollum tie to spider-- but since hobbit not sure why we are getting spider type kill- I would say we cannot rule out a tie to gollum with spider-- just based on LOR--
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Post Post #268 (isolation #12) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:07 am

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thanks YAW been ages since read the hobbit--

far more up to date on LOTR-

Tolkien was consistent. So yes spiders clearly seperate group then--interesting.
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Post Post #283 (isolation #13) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:35 pm

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Okay guys, give MOL a bit of a break-- he comes in and tries to inject a bit of his personality into the thread. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah the game is afoot. And yeah you have to sort things out.

But give the guy a break. The knee jerk reactions to his simply trying to be self is just as bad as his coming in, and rubbing some folks the wrong way.

The jeff foxworthy bits were annoying a little yes-- but not overly.

And if I read correctly MOL 42 is in high school.

So get back to the game and if have reason to vote MOL game wise do it-- don't do it because of annoyance. This is only a game and you learn more about people by letting them be who they are.

So take a deep breath and be more concerned about what is going on--

IS-- your response is a typical response-- nicely done.
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Post Post #284 (isolation #14) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:37 pm

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Okay, weird double post there not sure how that happened. MOD if you could delete one that would be helpful.

I did see that the current lynchee has made statements in another thread and avoided this one. Hopefully he will check in soon and make whatever claim he is going to make.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #15) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:00 pm

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well that is a first-- a lay down by a bad guy--


sounds like we will be without trolls.

BTW my phrasing and stating of things is often less then correct. I have a habit of posting as I think.
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Post Post #290 (isolation #16) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:02 pm

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LOL-- Tigris-- check the posts-- we heard from Korais
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Post Post #295 (isolation #17) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:48 pm

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korais-- I meant this early--

seen scum give up when game is pretty much in hand but not when under pressure of lynch.

Understand the hard to fake a role when it is book themed.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #18) » Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:07 pm

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well if I die before I wake-- so far it's been fun..
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Post Post #305 (isolation #19) » Fri Aug 13, 2004 2:02 pm

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well if we vote IndenturedD we will be waiting a long time for a claim.

Also Narnianin has asked to be replaced in other games-

Wouldn't a couple more replacements be in order?

Otherwise lets just lynch all the lurkers and see what we have left.
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Post Post #310 (isolation #20) » Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:40 pm

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problem is Yaw that a GG role player may also be in the Lurking and non-submitting crowd.

I am all for getting rid of what I refer to as speedbumps. I guess a down side of games here is folks lose interest or get busier then when they were set up.

Frustrating on my book and no reason games should move as slow as they seem to, but of course makes folks take time to think.

Vote: Indentureddjinn
because worst of the speedbump/lurkers
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Post Post #311 (isolation #21) » Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:41 pm

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IN fact it is more probable a GG role player would be a non submitter. Unless a SK role the BGs usually have an opportunity to have someone around to submit.
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Post Post #327 (isolation #22) » Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:07 am

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Cool bot I listed the non-voters before night.
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Post Post #328 (isolation #23) » Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:09 am

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PeaceBringer wrote:btw just did a little research in to what where I play as termed Speedbumps. Meaning not participating in the game.

So far no votes cast by these players.

Not voted- Narninian, Uraj45, yggdrasil, Meaning of Life 42, indentureddjinn

and this there current story

MOL- last active August 3rd- only posts to sign up as replacement.

Indent- last post july 23rd-been inactive- posted a couple times to say hey I am around and will say something later

Yggdrasil- replacement-vacation till 11th—

Uraj45- on vacation, limited action and game was stalled has checked in on other games.

Narninian-active on site but not in game thread

I realize this is a long game and plagued with having to replace but of those inactives the most curious is Narninian-- ulitmate speedbump.

Possible low flying scum or related to the game stalling?
Ident been away for awhile and Narninian never did play and been asked to be replaced in multiple games where he was even more active.
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Post Post #331 (isolation #24) » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:35 pm

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IS-- no one dieing is a good thing. Now the fact that a lot of folks didn't get moves in that is disturbing.

Lack of death means bad guys didn't get move in
Doctor or other player got a block
a bad guy group has a turn/recruit ability and did that.
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Post Post #340 (isolation #25) » Sun Aug 15, 2004 6:35 am

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yawn
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Post Post #347 (isolation #26) » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:39 am

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well I could easily switch my vote here to IS--

but right now wanting to force the lurker issue.
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Post Post #378 (isolation #27) » Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:14 pm

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well especially with the vote on the missing indenture...
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Post Post #398 (isolation #28) » Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:30 am

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I concur
FOS Coolbot


and beginning to think
unFOS IS
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Post Post #403 (isolation #29) » Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:54 am

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I would really like to see ID replaced and I believe there is a willing replacer in the replacement thread--

MMCL the ID vote from me is purely a lurker vote to press the issue to either lynch or replace.

Coolbot is coming off right now as suspiscious.
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Post Post #405 (isolation #30) » Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:59 am

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and I hate lurkers and dead weight---if you haven't figured that out by now.

Sign up for a game freaking participate.
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Post Post #427 (isolation #31) » Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:17 am

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well I want to leave my vote where it is for the moment-

in particular given the lack of moves.
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Post Post #438 (isolation #32) » Sat Aug 21, 2004 1:34 am

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CoolBot wrote:
Yaw wrote:And your evidence is the lie you posted above?
Where did I lie? Did you not vote jedi early, unvote late, and revote when it was clear no one else was being lynched? These are the facts my interpetation is based on; I'm not lying about them. Why are you so eager to paint my words in the worst possible light.

Peace, lack of moves? What do you mean by that?
meaing that nothing has happened- no movement-
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Post Post #461 (isolation #33) » Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:31 am

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yes, it all seems interesting to me.

That was weird from Drummer-

Vote Drummer
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Post Post #466 (isolation #34) » Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:34 am

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MOL-- posting without reading now--

FOS at MOL for that one


BTW Argoti is one of the replacements. The other is Lulu who has not checked in yet.
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Post Post #468 (isolation #35) » Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:19 am

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Uraj- sorry mean check in with something to contribute
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Post Post #503 (isolation #36) » Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:07 pm

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Not quite sure what to make of Lulu's claim.

However notice the tomorrow reference.

Would have to go back and see when his 2 posts occur.

Not sure how that helps at all-- weird role. So suspiscious.
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Post Post #505 (isolation #37) » Mon Aug 23, 2004 1:22 pm

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thanks Yaw-- wasn't aware of that search feature.

Given that both posts on first day I don't buy it. He would have lost night move.

Nice try lulu. Clearly you know the book to come up with the role and nice try at pulling a believeable role. Don't buy it.

unvote drummer FOS Drummmer Vote LULU

also don't see how your searching for bard helps the village
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Post Post #508 (isolation #38) » Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:07 pm

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I have seen the searchable mason concept used but only once.

Again it don't buy the role for reason Yaw laid out.

Having a mason with posting restriction seems way too odd with the # of bad guys in this game. However I could see mason used given the BGs but ID's behavior doesn't match Lulu's claim
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Post Post #517 (isolation #39) » Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:26 am

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only 2 deaths a spider death and a wizard death
vote Internet Stranger
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Post Post #519 (isolation #40) » Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:32 am

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jaylen I have have stated before when I entered the game--

top canidate to be a spider--

folks had other interests at the time.

Recall Rick was pointing at IS--back on day one and killed by spider.

It isn't much but what I have to go on at the moment.
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Post Post #523 (isolation #41) » Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:39 am

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actually since MOL42 was cop and since voted Argoti--
vote Argoti

but IS you are not off the hook yet.
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Post Post #538 (isolation #42) » Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:16 am

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just kill the target
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Post Post #552 (isolation #43) » Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:11 pm

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that sucks--

okay I am dead now.

Mod roles might be nice if you do that and now I go silent.

Poop.

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