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my god, the content..
think this is the first game I have ever read anything pooky has written and thought a.) thats not scummy or b.) hey now, that makes sense..
at any rate, my vote on Greasy Spot was random, but I am now confirming it.
Dani Banani, any reason you chose to explain why you were not voting Greasy spot with your semi-random vote on MoS? what was the not so random part of the vote on MoS?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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well I guess it wont drop it now that you told him you would lynch him if he doesnt. Want to make sure I got this straight, since I wasnt at Thespival, there was no game where people yell "amen" and such in there posts?petroleumjelly wrote:
If he suddenly "drops" his restriction tomorrow (or a later day), I would suggest not lynching him unless there is a dead jester or we can be reasonably sure he is not the jester, since "breaking a restriction with no punishment" is an obvious tactic for the jester, if for some stupid reason they do not claim today
I'm also not sure why he has the "Amen"/"Hallelujah" in his posts, since we had nothing like that at Thespival whenweplayed Mostly Mute. If it's the case that he is Mafia and there is nothing along the lines of "Monk" in his role-name (where the Amen/Hallelujah came from), I believe it is reasonable to assume somebody in the mafia is experienced enough to know about that particular game and suggested using those particular words...
ok, can someone provide a link to that game?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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this little post stuck out to me, BM has already answered the question...why would it make him more scummy if he doesnt answer it again? Seems like you just wanted a reason to say something and look town here. please explain.RossWilliam wrote:then it wouldn't hurt you to do it again instead of being snide and making yourself look even more obnoxious, not to mention scummyNO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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and how did they cause distraction?QuickBen wrote:You know the really sad part is that we're spending an inordinate amount of time on the Jester when we really need to be looking for scum. Currently, GS and BM are my favorites for lynch today just from the distraction they've caused from our true purpose- finding and lynching scum.
and (maybe I have missed it) what are you doing to scum hunt? At least this has spawned conversation.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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kick ass!Monkey wrote:Mod:
1: Can you update the fact that I've replaced Dark Ermac in this game.
2: I'm going to be away for the weekend, getting married tonight.
Players:
Will be back shortly to post something, although I've read up to this point and can't come up with a quick thought to write down. I'll spend some time reading.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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BM, I agree that he is inconsistent, but does that equal scummy over just bad logical reasoning? As it has been pointed out to me (repeatedly) on this site, being hypocritical is by no means scummy. Now, I tend to disagree when there is a vote involved and I dont think he actually has his vote on you. All this being said, I might agree with you and vote Quickben, but GS is by far the scummiest atm and my vote will stay here.
QB, what are your thoughts on GS? So do you think BM is scummier than MoS (where your vote is currently).NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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so you think he is scummy because he said mith was scummy, what about me, I thought GS was scummy and he turned out to be town.and refresh my memory where was your vote day 1?RossWilliam wrote:he made a lot of contradictions on day one, and he was quoted as saying mith was extremely scummy when mith is, obviously not. same reasons as everyone else.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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throwing my 2 cents out there. I am finding Ross's play quite scummy, however, it seems to be obviously so. Which leads me to believe that he is either a newbie (scum or town) or the jester. That is why I have not placed my vote as of yet on him(still undecided).
Not sure why Monkey has votes on him, I am assuming for pressure sake.
I have only played with Sarc once, but there is nothing here (yet) that suggests he is playing any differently. Cant discuss the other game because it is still ongoing, but I will say that his play here (as a reflection of that game) does not warrant my vote at this point.
What DOES stand out to me is this...
what notes? when did Ross make it into your notes as being one of the scummiest players?al_kohaulec wrote: Jelly, I has Ross marked down as being one of the scummiest players in my notes. I may have questioned him if I had the time, but I doubt I would have, and wouldn't have done it nearly as efficiently as you did. His answers to your questions gave me much better insight into his actions and gives me another perspective, allowing me to see how wrong I believe I was before.
then you get a little pressure (not even, more like a question or two) you unvote and post following:
so after yesterday, your scum list is Ross, BM, Monkey, and Meme? Or is Ross now off your list? If so what about Ross's reply made you suddenly change your mind? Something about this post does not seem geniune to me.al_kohaulec wrote: I always keep notes on games. They used to be elaborate, but in the past year or so, they've been plummeting in quality.
My list of scummy players is small. There's been a lot of suspicion on Monkey, but you might be surprised to hear i only have one note on him, and it's in his favor. He refused to vote simply because mith wanted everybody to place a vote by the first week. He wanted to be more informed of his actions and not act hastily.
My notes say I'm at the top of page 16 on rereading this thread (skimming), and I have two living suspects currently. While they were alive, GS and mith were on that list. I even remember voicing that I had some suspicions on mith's behavior, but wasn't too sure how much of that was because of the jester ploy.
My two remaining suspects are BM and MeMe. I did not list any notes on BM yet, but I simply have him color coded as scummy. MeMe, I haven't noticed her as being very active, almost seeming to post without posting. I haven't been impressed with her play. There are possible excuses for it, but generally her play hasn't seemed as strong as MeMe's play typically should be IMO.
I don't believe I ever made mention of Ross as scummiest or least scummiest. Also, I believe after hearing Ross's explanation,
UnvoteFoS al_kohaulec. this would be a vote right now, if PJ hadnt asked you about these "notes". Question, how confident are you in your notes usually (for I assume you take them in every game)?...how confident are you in your notes Day 2 in this game?
Also why didnt you unvote once Ross replied, why did you wait to unvote AFTER PJ questioned you about your notes?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I havent played with you before, so I dont know if this is common for you...I understand being busy, but the majority of your posts state you dont have time to post.Talitha wrote:I wouldn't have joined a game right now that wasn't Thespival mafia.
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dammit tyhess.....that was either a brillant move or an an idiotic move.
unvote RossWilliams, now I cant be sure his horrid play is not purposeful
so what the hell does that mean for this game? We know tyhess is the recruiter. Why does this feel like posting to make it look like you are (finally) contributing more than you really all..Talitha wrote:When I was scum and playing in a game with a jester (at Thespival), I remember (subtly) trying to get people to think I might be the jester, so they would not want to lynch me.
Just throwing that out there...
*goes back to burying head in the depths of page 13*
fos Talitha, this will turn into a vote very soon if you dont post and contribute.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:How about the way they have folded under intense scrutiny?
Much like guilty scum running for the border.
This is the equivalent of 2 crooks deciding to hide overseas after they post bail when they realize they don't have a chance in hell of getting through trial alive.
Dammit Pooky, I have grown tired of your crackpot theories and crazy assumptions. You would like us to believe that they are both probably scum and both cracked under your probbing? I wonder oh mighty leader of the HDs, what will you say if one or the other comes up town, will you still want to lynch the other? Heaven save the other if one comes up scum. Has anyone done a meta to see if they are still posting on the site at all, or has the imposing presence of Pooky scared them from the internet as well?PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
Hapless Dupe Number Three has to act outraged all the time at everything I say.
so, how did I do?
But seriously, CB is a disciple slayer alt...DS had to be replaced in all of his games, but then made this alt...most likely he is just not coming back...and wolf has posted in another game on the 4th....not sure what that means.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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Person A(CP) votes Person B (wolf) beause he thinks that B is bussing C (RW). But then votes C beause A think B and C are scum together...PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
Now Capt. Bandwagon jumps in with a comment "I think Wolf and RW r bussing. VOTE RossWilliam"
Frankly it's the most BS way to support a scumcomrade I've ever seen, "I think he is bussing someone, I think he's scum, so let me put my vote with his vote and support him and push rosswillaim towards a lynch"
no I guess you are right...voting person B will not give you any more information about A and C....I think I got the formula wrong with the replacements...
I bow to your genius...I guess.
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posts like this always make me cringe.Holy wrote:Hm, if tomorrow our doc claimer is staying alive, then I will think further about her case. For now, I'll support an RW lynch or Monkey lynch, still.
as it stands, I dont want to lynch the possible doctor today. My vote will probably end up on JDGA before the "day" is out....
ugh, this sounds like a deflection..., I dont like this post either, but your claim (without a counter claim) still stands good in my eyesfarside22 wrote:
Why because your scum partner could be lynched.MeMe wrote:unvote: QuickBen
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Of the two wagons, this one seems safer.
Seriously what has JDGA said that makes you think he isn't scum or that I'm more likely scum?NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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first of all, in the same post you have gone from saying I was "asking for" to "forcing" a claim. I did nothing of the sort. I was explaining why I am not voting farside, furthermore, I do not see why other's are voting farisde. Please can you provide a quote where I was forcing anyone to claim? forcing anyone to counter claim?al_kohaulec wrote:curiouskarmadog wrote:
ugh, this sounds like a deflection..., I dont like this post either, but your claim (without a counter claim) still stands good in my eyesfarside22 wrote:
Why because your scum partner could be lynched.MeMe wrote:unvote: QuickBen
vote: farside22
Of the two wagons, this one seems safer.
Seriously what has JDGA said that makes you think he isn't scum or that I'm more likely scum?FoS: ckdThis sounds too much like asking for another player to counterclaim if they are the doctor. If farside is lying, she will be found out. Forcing a claim from the "real" doc, if there is one, only eliminates a valuable protective role from us for no purpose. Because even after the counterclaim, there'd be no knowing if there is more than one doc in this game or not.
now we are so close to deadline, you "will not explain yourself" and vote the claimed doc because he references cards that have been posted in the thread by the mod. I think you are trying anything to rouse a last minute BW...not buying it.al_kohaulec wrote:
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Before I explain myself, Farside, tell me where you found the cards, and how you recognized the pictures, and why you think that us asking about the picture is such a big deal?
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christ, I think I understand why people hate jester gamesRossWilliam wrote:I just had a thought. I've been perfectly content waiting on the JDGA wagon for him to come back and post, but than I realized, what if he is indeed the joker? He sees he's well on the way to lynch, and conveniantly dissapears, let us think he's chicken or something, and lynch him. voila, he wins. this just made me really nervous, but I don't know if i'm willing to unvote yet. I don't know yet who a plausible replacement would be.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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I think it is interesting how everyone seems to be forgetting this post in reference to farside
he claimed doctor, and knew what the picture was BEFORE the actual doc picture was shown. I am not sure why he has 4 votes already? Are these the same pictures used at Thesp? Can people please explain to me why this is a good lynch?farside22 wrote:
That said why hasn't anyone asked what the picture of the doctor is. Obviously there are pictures on each of the cards. The mason on perry mason (cute) and the town has a pic. Well the pic on my card is on Bones McCoy from Star Trek. All I thought to say when I got it was "Damn it Jim I'm a doctor not a miracle worker."NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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why is that? Do you have a 20+ person game that you can reference or link us to that you ahve been in?...I think your conclusion of the evaluation of the wagons are lacking. You pointed out that Pooky has been on 5 of the wagons..and RW was on 3, but you think farside is the scum based on what?Beep! Beep! wrote:
I don't believe in the "two doctor" theory.
vote: farside22
I think you are deliberately misrepresenting the numbers here. You talk about the JDGA and Beep Beep wagon like they are two different people. They are not, the same people who thought JDGA was scummy, shouldn’t have to remove their vote because you replaced in. They still think JDGA was scummy, even though you replace in. I don’t think it was an accident that you have listed farside on both lynches.
Also I notice that you leave out one important person on the GS wagon.
Beep! Beep! wrote: Greasy Spot(town) WAGON
curiouskarmadog, mith(town), PookyTheMagicalBear, petroleumjelly,
Captain Bandwagon/farside, Cult of the Couch (1), Iammars, Mastermind of Sin
Why is it you deliberately take wolf out of the line up on this wagon? Maybe because you replaced in for wolf/jdga?! Also in your first analysis you didn’t even include the farside wagon? I think you didn’t because you went into this argument TRYING to figure out a way to push for Farside.Thesp wrote:Greasy Spot - 11(curiouskarmadog, mith, PookyTheMagicalBear, Captain Bandwagon,Cult of the Couch (1), Iammars, Mastermind of Sin,wolfcrier, Monkey, RossWilliam, Sarcastro)
This is obvious scum pushing for a Doctor lynch. Also, if you come up scum, FoS RW, because he has been in as many lynches (in your conclusion as farside), and you decided to leave him off the GS wagon as well.
vote beep beep
I think the wagon needs to freaking slow down a bit….I also note the lack of rereading before voting.
That being said, when I have time…I will get to that.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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RW, I agree. Beep Beep, your theory is that because the mafia didnt kill farside this proves that he is scum? Really? Because wouldnt it be a good idea for the mafia to target someone else and push to kill farside today? Right, why are you dismissing that fact? Better to wait a bit to see what information Pooky provides, for a have a feeling my vote is going to change.
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farside22 wrote:
It sounds like you are saying you agree with everyone that I should be lynched. Since you were the only one questioning my inevitable lynch I didn't consider you to be one of the mindless zombies out there.curiouskarmadog wrote:far, what are you talking about?..what is wrong with my comment?
I have no clue who is scum any more. I question Beep beep WIFOM comments. Holy's lack of scum hunting and BM's comment about just lynching and worry about discussion later. GL I think you are going to need it with this group.
???curiouskarmadog wrote:got prodded, wow..anyway,dont agree with the farside lynch at this point.Especially with Pooky's claim...this information needs to come out sooner than later. Been waiting for Pooky mostly beforing (re)voting.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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and remember 3 full sentences pleasecuriouskarmadog wrote:
look forward to reading yours as wellBeep! Beep! wrote:
Please provide us with a list of your top 7 suspects, with rationale. Three full sentences per candidate minimum.farside22 wrote:I already know that no matter what I say I'm being lynched I have nothing to lose.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE