secret hitler [7/7] (fascists win!)

Bingle · Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Fri May 28, 2021 6:42 am

/in with the proviso that if another marathon is near ending we delay the start to accomodate

Bingle · Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Fri May 28, 2021 7:56 am

I'd be down to play just about anything, tbh.

Bingle · Post Post #28 (isolation #2) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:04 am

I'm intrigued by shower mafia.

Bingle · Post Post #35 (isolation #3) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:10 am

someone post the board

Bingle · Post Post #39 (isolation #4) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:14 am

I think so at 7

Bingle · Post Post #41 (isolation #5) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:15 am

ah, trust hoppy. I'm probs wrong, it's been hella fortnights.

Bingle · Post Post #65 (isolation #6) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:25 am

sorry, was reviewing things.

Nominate toad.

Bingle · Post Post #76 (isolation #7) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:26 am

In post 68, petapan wrote:why toad

why not toad?

Bingle · Post Post #79 (isolation #8) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:27 am

Bingle · Post Post #92 (isolation #9) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:30 am

I mean... there's a standard set of actions in my playgroup that I'm following to a T and I will not say what they are until after the first policy is passed.

Bingle · Post Post #99 (isolation #10) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:31 am

This set of actions is NAI from me but was workshopped to give the greatest amount of information with randos who hopped in.

Bingle · Post Post #111 (isolation #11) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:33 am

In post 101, Hopkirk wrote:if this is the stupid 'breaking strategy' that removes 100% of the fun from the game to marginally (or significantly, idk the odds) increase our win rate then i'm going to be judging you for it

Nah, it's a script for the first mission and nothing more.

Bingle · Post Post #114 (isolation #12) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:33 am

I want you to nom peta, hoppy.

Bingle · Post Post #123 (isolation #13) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:35 am

Once again, my thing isn't a numbers optimization thing at all.

Bingle · Post Post #127 (isolation #14) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:36 am

Oh, also, Datisi said there's no mafia in this setup, so

dayvig

Oka

Bingle · Post Post #131 (isolation #15) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:36 am

In post 125, OkaPoka wrote:explain yo self bingle

No

Bingle · Post Post #138 (isolation #16) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:39 am

optimal strat is an inaccurate description of what is happening. This strategy has no specific benefit to liberals or fascists and is simply a way we used to jumpstart conversation/interactions.

Bingle · Post Post #153 (isolation #17) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:44 am

I chose toad b/c he's opposite me at the table.

I always reject the first two teams out of hand to see who chooses who.

Hoppy likely town.

Bingle · Post Post #156 (isolation #18) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:44 am

hoppy, claim?

Bingle · Post Post #164 (isolation #19) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:46 am

In post 157, OkaPoka wrote:yes chance should claim before presi

Shouldn't matter. If there's a cc it'll happen either way.

Also chancellor claiming inaccurately after passing a lib policy is just bonkers.

Bingle · Post Post #171 (isolation #20) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:48 am

In post 169, petapan wrote:i was given two fascist tiles obviously

locktown, cheating for the liberal team

Bingle · Post Post #174 (isolation #21) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:49 am

In post 170, Gypyx wrote:
In post 162, The toad wrote:
In post 158, Gypyx wrote:
In post 149, The toad wrote:
In post 144, Gypyx wrote:what does a liberal policy being passe mean?
https://www.secrethitler.com/assets/Sec ... _Rules.pdf
tl;dr?
liberal policies are the liberal wincon. we pass 5, we win

that being said, read the rules dude
I CAN'T AAAAAAH Y'ALL GO TOO FAST

nom : peta

you can't nom someone from the previous team.

Bingle · Post Post #178 (isolation #22) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:49 am

In post 165, OkaPoka wrote:it matters if they are both scum

?

Bingle · Post Post #184 (isolation #23) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:51 am

I'm voting no until peta pres, btw.

Bingle · Post Post #197 (isolation #24) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:54 am

shouldn't if we go fast.

Bingle · Post Post #198 (isolation #25) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:55 am

nights are pretty much instant.

Bingle · Post Post #201 (isolation #26) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:55 am

hoppy, did you send 1 and 1?

Bingle · Post Post #212 (isolation #27) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:57 am

I support nomming oka. Makes it that much sweeter when I vote no.

Bingle · Post Post #218 (isolation #28) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:58 am

In post 206, Hopkirk wrote:FFL

@Datisi (not a question but just to check)- order of cards matters later on so i'm assuming the phrasing datisi gave me would have been different if it was the liberal in the middle of fascists

we always shuffled the tiles in my playgroup. tbh.

Bingle · Post Post #223 (isolation #29) » Fri May 28, 2021 8:59 am

In post 216, OkaPoka wrote:wtf i ja'd ur gov bingle ;-;

I have the desire to double up on evidence, and peta is pres next.

Bingle · Post Post #229 (isolation #30) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:00 am

In post 214, Hopkirk wrote:Discarding the liberal felt like the kind of play Kyle would make so i didn't do it

Bingle · Post Post #232 (isolation #31) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:01 am

In post 227, petapan wrote:so im nomijnating bingle right

I would prefer this, but oka is a fine choice.

Bingle · Post Post #234 (isolation #32) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:02 am

Chancellor barely matters until it becomes the most important decision.

Bingle · Post Post #250 (isolation #33) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:05 am

it is inherently antitown to decline this team.

Bingle · Post Post #255 (isolation #34) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:06 am

I promise to have free squirrels in every high school cafeteria if you elect me.

Bingle · Post Post #260 (isolation #35) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:07 am

yeah, if we say no we flip the top card of a mostly fascist deck.

Bingle · Post Post #262 (isolation #36) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:08 am

In post 259, OkaPoka wrote:cant believe we sacrificed freedom the press for freedom of squirrel consumption

Why would you eat the squirrels? You monster! They were there to learn!

Bingle · Post Post #267 (isolation #37) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:11 am

double lib

Bingle · Post Post #270 (isolation #38) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:11 am

also, dats wouldn't accept dayvig george bailey as an action submission.

Bingle · Post Post #273 (isolation #39) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:12 am

I would like to go on the next team, actually, not this one.

Bingle · Post Post #285 (isolation #40) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:14 am

It is likely we're going to start passing fascists, purely through numbers and I would prefer being pres when the second fascist ends up passing. I will accept hopkirk or peta being president for the second fascist as well.

Letting an untested team go here makes that more likely.

Bingle · Post Post #286 (isolation #41) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:15 am

I specifically don't want hoppy chancellor here.

Bingle · Post Post #294 (isolation #42) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:17 am

I currently tr hoppy and peta.

Bingle · Post Post #302 (isolation #43) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:18 am

In post 293, OkaPoka wrote:he wants the cop check

I want to maybe get the cop check if I can't pass a liberal. If we do some other team, me/hoppy then hoppy/random I get to have two sequential townreads as pres for potential PR policies.

Bingle · Post Post #311 (isolation #44) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:24 am

claims?

Bingle · Post Post #317 (isolation #45) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:25 am

I'm going to vote aye, but I'm holding to see claims before doing so.

Bingle · Post Post #319 (isolation #46) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:26 am

In post 316, Hopkirk wrote:Got L/F

kind of meta, but it took a while for me to get given those. idk if that's indicative of thinking time from Anya or just one of Anya/Datisi not being instantly around

FWIW, this is true of peta as well.

Bingle · Post Post #325 (isolation #47) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:27 am

I'm ja'ing this because I would prefer to be the one cop checking.

Bingle · Post Post #335 (isolation #48) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:31 am

claims?

intent to nom hoppy.

Bingle · Post Post #339 (isolation #49) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:32 am

In post 334, OkaPoka wrote:peta is evil

You're saying he had a choice?

What was the third?

Bingle · Post Post #342 (isolation #50) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:32 am

nom hopkirk

Bingle · Post Post #346 (isolation #51) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:33 am

1 lib card in deck at most, comp wise.

Bingle · Post Post #352 (isolation #52) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:34 am

In post 346, Bingle wrote:1 lib card in deck at most, comp wise.

* if oka actually got a blue card, I should clarify.

Bingle · Post Post #356 (isolation #53) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:36 am

oka, you're saying you got FFL for clarity, right?

Bingle · Post Post #362 (isolation #54) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:38 am

In post 357, Hopkirk wrote:5 left in the deck with 1-2 liberals depending on conflict result right?

Theoretically it could be three FYPOV as peta/me could be lying.

Bingle · Post Post #369 (isolation #55) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:42 am

why would I check in the 1v1?

Leaning anya, thoughts hoppy?

Bingle · Post Post #370 (isolation #56) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:42 am

Triple fascist, ofc.

Bingle · Post Post #383 (isolation #57) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:45 am

no? If we get two 1v1s we can functionally guarantee no hitler win with a single townread. If I conf a town we can get information. We just avoid Oka/peta teams rn until we have confirmations.

Bingle · Post Post #387 (isolation #58) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:46 am

fuckit.

Anya

Bingle · Post Post #390 (isolation #59) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:46 am

anya lib.

Bingle · Post Post #398 (isolation #60) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:48 am

I don't want peta to be pres (or chancellor after third fascist)

Bingle · Post Post #408 (isolation #61) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:51 am

I trust toad most out of those three.

Bingle · Post Post #409 (isolation #62) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:52 am

depending on PR, I might be okay with handing you the presumed fascist action though.

Bingle · Post Post #413 (isolation #63) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:53 am

Anya chancellor gives us a potential win.

Bingle · Post Post #414 (isolation #64) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:53 am

me peta isn't S/S unless I'm hitler, btw.

Bingle · Post Post #423 (isolation #65) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:55 am

In post 416, Gypyx wrote:wait do we like actually have to like find every town to be able to win?

Nope.

Kill hitler or pass 5 libs. Gets more complicated if we hit veto stage.

Bingle · Post Post #426 (isolation #66) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:56 am

hoppy anya locktown. Hoppy is doing too much thinking to be big braining this imo.

Bingle · Post Post #429 (isolation #67) » Fri May 28, 2021 9:59 am

Fuck.

anya pres or chancellor?

Bingle · Post Post #435 (isolation #68) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:00 am

I'd prefer anya pres me chancellor, but there's actually no hard evidence that I'm town.

Bingle · Post Post #446 (isolation #69) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:01 am

hoppy saying anything other than 3 reds would be a scumclaim.

Bingle · Post Post #471 (isolation #70) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:08 am

I'd be okay with gypyx chancellor I guess.

Bingle · Post Post #475 (isolation #71) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:09 am

In post 472, Anya wrote:what if gypyx just puts a fascist down though and causes a boxing fight

You kill him and are conftown via not immediately having fascists control the game?

Bingle · Post Post #478 (isolation #72) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:10 am

In post 474, petapan wrote:
In post 471, Bingle wrote:I'd be okay with gypyx chancellor I guess.
lol what

Not you, not oka.

I'm actually a solid lead on hitler b/c powertowning from not my pov.

Bingle · Post Post #487 (isolation #73) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:13 am

you take the confscum shot if it's presented. 100%.

Bingle · Post Post #498 (isolation #74) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:15 am

I'm voting ja regardless.

Bingle · Post Post #503 (isolation #75) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:16 am

peta is more likely hitler than oka, I think.

Bingle · Post Post #506 (isolation #76) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:17 am

In post 499, The toad wrote:i mean does it make sense to risk F in order to avoid hitty? i think that makes sense?

Yes. suboptimal, but it makes sense.

Bingle · Post Post #507 (isolation #77) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:17 am

In post 504, Anya wrote:
In post 502, Hopkirk wrote:if regular!F Oka then if they put the F down when given a choice it's much worse than if regular!F Peta/Toad/Gypyx does
why?

Less info.

Bingle · Post Post #511 (isolation #78) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:18 am

If you run into a conflict outside of the 1v1 they're confscum and we still have the 1v1. if you run into a conflict inside the 1v1 we don't have that additional guilty result.

Bingle · Post Post #521 (isolation #79) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:20 am

force the double lib if you can, btw.

Bingle · Post Post #525 (isolation #80) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:21 am

should go without saying, ofc.

Bingle · Post Post #533 (isolation #81) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:26 am

If anya was fascist its game over yeah. She's not though.

Bingle · Post Post #536 (isolation #82) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:27 am

Anya, you have to shoot fascist here, as the fascists can massclaim to force flipping from the top which is overwhelmingly likely to cause a fascist win if you hit liberal.

Bingle · Post Post #552 (isolation #83) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:31 am

I mean... shoot oka for the confscum I think. or hero shoot if you think you know hitler.

Bingle · Post Post #560 (isolation #84) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:33 am

In post 555, Anya wrote:why's he confscum?

why would town claim scum here?

Bingle · Post Post #571 (isolation #85) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:36 am

lowkey kinda just want to give Anya another bullet.

Bingle · Post Post #574 (isolation #86) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:37 am

btw, not that it matters now, but I was intending to gambit if oka didn't scumclaim.

Bingle · Post Post #576 (isolation #87) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:37 am

In post 573, petapan wrote:im very confused by what oka was attempting lol

He was worried hitler might get shot.

Bingle · Post Post #581 (isolation #88) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:38 am

In post 577, Hopkirk wrote:if Oka wasn't scum then Peta is scum and it's tied and town never get another bullet

Actually not true.

If we force nays, the president of the last successful mission gets the bullet again. Which is Anya. Hence gambit.

Bingle · Post Post #586 (isolation #89) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:40 am

Bingle · Post Post #594 (isolation #90) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:43 am

In post 590, Hopkirk wrote:
In post 581, Bingle wrote:
In post 577, Hopkirk wrote:if Oka wasn't scum then Peta is scum and it's tied and town never get another bullet
Actually not true.

If we force nays, the president of the last successful mission gets the bullet again. Which is Anya. Hence gambit.
i'm 90% sure that's a houserule you're using

Oh, shit, you're right. We just lose the PR according to the rulebook.

Bingle · Post Post #599 (isolation #91) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:47 am

we probably have to risk a chancellor outside of the townreads at some point.

Bingle · Post Post #601 (isolation #92) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:48 am

either chancellor or pres.

Bingle · Post Post #602 (isolation #93) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:49 am

afk a min, brb

Bingle · Post Post #609 (isolation #94) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:51 am

In post 603, petapan wrote:
In post 599, Bingle wrote:we probably have to risk a chancellor outside of the townreads at some point.
do we?

You Hop team leaves Anya pres without you hop chance options.

Bingle · Post Post #614 (isolation #95) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:52 am

I'm pretty confident in Hop/me/anya/peta town

Bingle · Post Post #618 (isolation #96) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:54 am

toad pres gets to kill though. peta is def pres.

Bingle · Post Post #624 (isolation #97) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:55 am

I'm fine with hop chancellor, he's bleeding town and if he's hitler it's a deserved win.

Bingle · Post Post #631 (isolation #98) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:58 am

Bingle · Post Post #634 (isolation #99) » Fri May 28, 2021 10:59 am

In post 627, petapan wrote:ultimately have to have a non-townread in government at some point

Yeah. Like I said, if hop is hitler oh well, we weren't winning this anyway.

Bingle · Fri May 28, 2021 11:00 am

this issue is if this is fascist and you don't kill hitler, we have a 50/50 assuming you and hop are town to lose.

Bingle · Fri May 28, 2021 11:01 am

In post 635, Gypyx wrote:
In post 625, The toad wrote:hey at least it wouldn't be game ending!

In post 197, Bingle wrote:shouldn't if we go fast.
so that was a fucking lie

ngl, this is a crazy long game of SH.

Bingle · Fri May 28, 2021 11:03 am

In post 641, Hopkirk wrote:btw when it's 5 alive you can take the previous (i forget whether it's pres or chancellor)

That's why I said probably.

Bingle · Fri May 28, 2021 11:06 am

well played, hoppy, my eternal nemesis. Eternal as of just now.

Bingle · Fri May 28, 2021 11:07 am

In post 657, Hopkirk wrote:gg, perhaps now Datisi will stop calling me 'literally hitler' (they explained they were talking about the role and not just being super mean)

There was a Santa reskin, you could just owe me ~30 years worth of coal.